Islam's 1,400 Years of Approved Pedophile Practice:

Islam's 1,400 Years of Approved Pedophile Practice:

INTRODUCTION:

Many women in Islam wear a veil, head covering, or tent (Burka) in what they claim to be to maintain moral purity, and look upon others not doing the same as sexually impure. But in reality this is only a hypocritical outward show as Islam has been guilty of gross pedophile practices for 1,400 years, i.e., from its founding. Its founder, for example, was sexually aroused by a six (6) year old female whom he wed and consummated his arousal when she was but nine (9) years of age.

Today, many in Islam still practice this pedophile practice with the approval from some of the top religious leaders in all of Islam. <<<"The Ayatollah Khomeini, in the 1970's even gave his consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against full penetration until the baby is a few years older)." [source - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/025-Muhammads-sex-life.htm on 10/03/2007]

Now what is pedophilism? Let's look at an encyclopedia for a definition:

Pedophilia or pædophilia (see spelling differences) is a preferential or exclusive sexual attraction by adults to prepubescent youths. A person with this attraction is called a pedophile or paedophile. The ICD-10 and DSM IV, which are standard medical diagnosis manuals, currently describe pedophilia as a paraphilia and mental disorder of adults or older youths, if it causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
The term pedophile is also used colloquially to denote an adult who is sexually attracted to adolescents or youths below the local age of consent, as well as those accused or convicted of child sexual abuse or child pornography related offences.[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile on 10/03/2007].

Of course some will attempt to excuse pedophilism occurring in the Seventh century by saying that was the culture of that time and of course trying to dismiss wrong doing by saying it was the culture is a cop out since that could also be used to excuse the murderous practice of cannibalism which was part of the culture at that time of many tribes. But excuses do not make a wrong a right.

So let's face it, Islam who bills itself as the world's must sexually restrictive religion, actually had one of the most sexually indulgent individuals in all of history as its founder. Reality is that he had sex with just about anyone he pleased. He was married to up to eleven women at a time, and according to some accounts he relegated his many wives to either consecutive days or all in one night. He married a 6 year old girl and consummated it when she was 9 years old and even took his adopted son's wife for his own as she was sexually attractive to him. On top of that he had a multitude of slave girls and concubines - sometimes on the very day in which they watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of Muhammad's armies.[references - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/025-Muhammads-sex-life.htm on 10/03/2007; and Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad, http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm on 10/03/2007; and On Mary, Muhammad's Concubine, http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/umar_mary.htm; and Encyclopedia of Islamic Myths:
Muhammad's had no more than 4 wives, http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myths-muhammad-sinless-4-wives.htm on 10/03/2007].

THE FOUNDER'S PEDOPHILISM:

Let's look at Muhammad's sexual struggle for Islam, just the facts:

<<<"A'isha: Mohammed's Nine-Year Old Wife, May 2007 version

Numerous people have said that Mohammed had sex with his youngest wife, 'Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr, when he was about 53 and she was only nine years old. Some Muslims deny that. If somebody were to claim Mohammed and 'Aisha had sex when she was nine, and they were wrong, that would be a serious slander against Mohammed. On the other hand, if it were true, that would show a very different side of Mohammed that would shock many. So is this accusation against Mohammed true or false?

This paper will first give the evidence for A'isha being nine when her marriage was consummated, then raise 11 objections to this, and finally, ask what if each view were correct.

This is important to a widely practiced but overlooked practice today: child brides in Muslim lands due to Mohammed's example.

In Iran as of June 2002 it is legal for a 9 year old girl to marry with her parents' permission. Voices Behind the Veil p.136-137[source - A'isha: Mohammed's Nine-Year Old Wife,..." http://www.muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm] >>>.

And,

<<<"Marriage to Muhammad

Aisha was initially betrothed to Jubayr ibn Mut'im, a Muslim whose father, though pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. When Khawla bint Hakim suggested that Muhammad marry Aisha after the death of Muhammad's first wife (Khadijah bint Khuwaylid), the previous agreement regarding marriage of Aisha with ibn Mut'im was put aside by common consent.[2] Watt suggests that Muhammad hoped to strengthen his ties with Abu Bakr.[2]

Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad. She stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, when the marriage was consummated.[3][2][4][5] The marriage was delayed until after the Hijra, or migration to Medina, in 622. Aisha and her older sister Asma bint Abi Bakr only moved to Medina after Muhammad had already fled there. Abu Bakr gave Muhammad the money to build a house for himself. After this, the wedding was celebrated very simply. After the wedding, Aisha continued to play with her toys, and Muhammad entered into the spirit of these games.[6]...

Status as "favorite wife"
Even though the marriage may have been politically motivated, to mark the ties between Muhammad and his companion Abu Bakr, most early accounts say that Muhammad and Aisha became sincerely fond of each other. Aisha is usually described as Muhammad's favorite wife, and it was in her company that Muhammad reportedly received the most revelations.[1] Aisha is believed to have been Muhammad's only virgin wife at the time of marrige. They adduce the following episodes as proof that Muhammad and Aisha's marriage did not always go smoothly, and that Khadija's memory never left Muhammad.[reference notes: [1] ^ a b c d Goodwin, Jan. Price of Honour: Muslim Women Lift the Veil of Silence on the Islamic World. UK: Little, Brown Book Group, 1994 ^ a b c [2] Watt, Aisha, Encyclopedia of Islam Online ^ [3] Barlas (2002), p.125-126 [4] ^ Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234, 5:58:236, 7:62:64 7:62:65,7:62:88, Sahih Muslim 8:3309, 8:3310,8:3311,Sunnan Abu Dawud 41:4915, 41:4917 ^ [5] Tabari, Volume 9, Page 131; Tabari, Volume 7, Page 7 [6]^ Watt, Muhammad, Oxford University Press 1961, page 102.
][source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha on 10/03/2007].>>>.

And,

<<<"Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad by Ali Sina

The thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people. It is difficult to accept that the Holy Prophet married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)"[source - Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad by Ali Sina, http://www.islam-watch.org/AliSina/AishaChildWife.htm] >>>.

Now, let's see what the Qur'an says on the subject:

In reading the Qur'an, it becomes rapidly apparent that "Allah" gave Muhammad quite a few "revelations" that okayed his abnormal sexual lust, but remember these are the words of the Qur'an for which Islam claims infallibility that generations of Muslims have memorized. Now let's consider a few of these from three different versions/translations of the Quran to ensure accuracy.

Sura 33:37:

YUSUFALI: Behold! Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled.

PICKTHAL: And when thou saidst unto him on whom Allah hath conferred favour and thou hast conferred favour: Keep thy wife to thyself, and fear Allah. And thou didst hide in thy mind that which Allah was to bring to light, and thou didst fear mankind whereas Allah hath a better right that thou shouldst fear Him. So when Zeyd had performed that necessary formality (of divorce) from her, We gave her unto thee in marriage, so that (henceforth) there may be no sin for believers in respect of wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have performed the necessary formality (of release) from them. The commandment of Allah must be fulfilled.

SHAKIR: And when you said to him to whom Allah had shown favor and to whom you had shown a favor: Keep your wife to yourself and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; and you concealed in your soul what Allah would bring to light, and you feared men, and Allah had a greater right that you should fear Him. But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed.

[Okaying his taking his adoptive son's wife.]

Sura 33:50-51:

Sura 33:50; YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing WOMAN who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father's side, and the daughters of thine uncle on the mother's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the mother's side who emigrated with thee, and a believing WOMAN if she give herself unto the Prophet and the Prophet desire to ask her in marriage - a privilege for thee only, not for the (rest of) believers - We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess - that thou mayst be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.

SHAKIR: O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing WOMAN if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Sura 33:51; YUSUFALI: Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them: and Allah knows (all) that is in your hearts: and Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.

PICKTHAL: Thou canst defer whom thou wilt of them and receive unto thee whom thou wilt, and whomsoever thou desirest of those whom thou hast set aside (temporarily), it is no sin for thee (to receive her again); that is better; that they may be comforted and not grieve, and may all be pleased with what thou givest them. Allah knoweth what is in your hearts (O men), and Allah is ever Forgiving, Clement.

SHAKIR: You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased, all of them with what you give them, and Allah knows what is in your hearts; and Allah is Knowing, Forbearing.

[making okay to marry about anyone whom he pleased regardless of age or even close family relationship.]

Sura 66:1-5:

Sura 66:1; YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

SHAKIR: O Prophet! why do you forbid (yourself) that which Allah has made lawful for you; you seek to please your wives; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Sura 66:2; YUSUFALI: Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases): and Allah is your Protector, and He is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom.

PICKTHAL: Allah hath made lawful for you (Muslims) absolution from your oaths (of such a kind), and Allah is your Protector. He is the Knower, the Wise.

SHAKIR: Allah indeed has sanctioned for you the expiation of your oaths and Allah is your Protector, and He is the Knowing the Wise.

Sura 66:3; YUSUFALI: When the Prophet disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his consorts, and she then divulged it (to another), and Allah made it known to him, he confirmed part thereof and repudiated a part. Then when he told her thereof, she said, "Who told thee this? "He said, "He told me Who knows and is well-acquainted (with all things)."

PICKTHAL: When the Prophet confided a fact unto one of his wives and when she afterward divulged it and Allah apprised him thereof, he made known (to her) part thereof and passed over part. And when he told it her she said: Who hath told thee? He said: The Knower, the Aware hath told me.

SHAKIR: And when the prophet secretly communicated a piece of information to one of his wives-- but when she informed (others) of it, and Allah made him to know it, he made known part of it and avoided part; so when he informed her of it, she said: Who informed you of this? He said: The Knowing, the one Aware, informed me.

Sura 66:4; YUSUFALI: If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and Gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels - will back (him) up.

PICKTHAL: If ye twain turn unto Allah repentant, (ye have cause to do so) for your hearts desired (the ban); and if ye aid one another against him (Muhammad) then lo! Allah, even He, is his Protecting Friend, and Gabriel and the righteous among the believers; and furthermore the angels are his helpers.

SHAKIR: If you both turn to Allah, then indeed your hearts are already inclined (to this); and if you back up each other against him, then surely Allah it is Who is his Guardian, and Jibreel and -the believers that do good, and the angels after that are the aiders.

Sura 66:5; YUSUFALI: It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,- who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins.

PICKTHAL: It may happen that his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your stead wives better than you, submissive (to Allah), believing, pious, penitent, devout, inclined to fasting, widows and maids.

SHAKIR: Maybe, his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins.

Sura 4:24:

YUSUFALI: Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.

PICKTHAL: And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done). Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise.

SHAKIR: And all married women except those whom your right hands possess (this is) Allah's ordinance to you, and lawful for you are (all women) besides those, provided that you seek (them) with your property, taking (them) in marriage not committing fornication. Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed; and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed; surely Allah is Knowing, Wise.

References that those interested should check out in the Hadiths:
Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad married Aisha at the age of nine.
Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.
Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).
Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.
Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she could sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an "older WOMAN" instead.
Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.
Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.
Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268) - - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "[source reference - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/025-Muhammads-sex-life.htm on 10/03/2007]

APPROVED PEDOPHILISM AMONG HIS FOLLOWERS TODAY:

We shall look at two cases that prove the practice of pedophilism is alive and well within Islam. But first, what a very important recent Muslim religious leader said on the subject, <<<"The Ayatollah Khomeini, in the 1970's even gave his consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against full penetration until the baby is a few years older)." [source - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/025-Muhammads-sex-life.htm on 10/03/2007].

Now let's look at a case that Maureen an English girl living in the United Kingdom, and a member of the Anglican Church [Church of England] sent me, <<<"I recently viewed a shocking program about the status/condition of women in Afghanistan today. To see what I am talking about, go to:
http://www.abc.net/4corners/content
then go to "Afghanistan unveiled.
Reporter: Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy Channel 4
Broadcast 24/09/2007

The documentary portrays the position of women today. An interview with a 14 year old girl who was married to an older male when she was 7 is sad enough to bring you to tears. Women stressed that conditions are much the same as when the Taliban were in full focus. Marriage with child brides is still common.

Go to the emails written in following the showing of the documentary. The hole thing is an eye-opener.

The following questions need to be answered:
1. What are the Muslim countries doing about this? Are not Muslim women disturbed about what they hear?
2. What are the Christian countries doing about this? We know it is going on, so how can we sit comfortably in our homes knowing what is happening to our sisters in Afghanistan?
In short, it is a shameful act that is still going on today and we are doing nothing about it." [sources - Maureen and "Afghanistan unveiled," at http://www.abc.net/4corners/content on 09/24/2007]

Or, <<<"Roshan Qasem, 11, will joing the household of Said Mohammed, 55; his first wife; their three sons; and their daughter, who is the same age as Roshan." [source - New York Times Magazine (c) 2006, http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5541006]>>>.

Or, <<<"Egypt, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Ethiopia, Pakistan, India, and the Middle East:[[All Muslim areas including those in India that are predominately Muslim.]] In the rural villages of these countries many young girls are rarely allowed out of their homes unless it is to work in the fields or to get married. ... Some families allow girls who are only 7 years old to marry. It is very unusual for a girl to reach the age of 16 and not be married." [source - Child Brides - The Problem of Early, Forced Marriage, http://marriage.about.com/od/arrangedmarriages/a/childbride.htm]>>>.

Or, <<<"Gulsoma, Afghan Child Bride Married at the Age of Four and Tortured, an Afghan girl was subjected to years of beatings and torture, finally escaping to discover that within all the world's cruelty, there is also some kindness.

"When I was three years old my father died, and after a year my mother married again, but her second husband didn't want me," says Gulsoma. "So my mother gave me away in a promise of marriage to our neighbor's oldest son, who was thirty."

"They had a ceremony in which I was placed on a horse [which is traditional in Afghanistan] and given to the man."

Because she was still a child, the marriage was not expected to be sexually consummated. But within a year, Gulsoma learned that so much else would be required of her that she would become a virtual slave in the household.

At the age of five, she was forced to take care of not only her "husband" but also his parents and all 12 of their other children as well.

Though nearly the entire family participated in the abuse, her father-in-law, she says, was the cruelest.

Gulsoma was then brought to a Kabul orphanage, where she lives today. She takes off her baseball cap and shows us a bald spot, almost like a medieval monk's tonsure, on the crown of her head where she was scalded.

She then turns her back and raises her shirt to reveal a sad map of scar tissue and keloids from cuts, bruises and the boiling water.

"My father-in-law asked me to do everything - laundry, the household chores - and the only time I was able to sleep in the house was when they had guests over," she says. "Other than that I would have to sleep outside on a piece of carpet without even any blankets. In the summer it was okay. But in the winter a neighbor would come over and give me a blanket, and sometimes some food."

When she couldn't keep up with the workload, Gulsoma says, she was beaten constantly.

"They beat me with electric wires," she says, "mostly on the legs. My father-in-law told his other children to do it that way so the injuries would be hidden. He said to them, 'break her bones, but don't hit her on the face.'"

There were even times when the family's abuse of Gulsoma transcended the bounds of the most wanton, sadistic cruelty, as on the occasions when they used her as a human tabletop, forcing her to lie on her stomach then cutting their food on her bare back.

Gulsoma says the family had one boy her age, named Atiqullah, who refused to take part in her torture.

"He would sneak me food sometimes and when my mother-in-law told him to find a stick to beat me, he would come back say he couldn't find one," she says. "He would try to stop the others sometimes. He would say 'she is my sister, and this is sinful.' Sometimes I think about him and wish he could be here and I wish I could have him as my brother."

One evening, Gulsoma says, when her father-in-law saw the neighbor giving her food and a blanket, he took them away and beat her mercilessly. Then, she says, he locked her in a shed for two months.

"I would be kept there all day," she says, "then at night they would let me go the bathroom and I would be fed one time each day. Most of the time it was only bread and sometimes some beans."[source - Mainstream Iowan, http://mainstreamiowan.blogspot.com/2006/03/gulsoma-afghan-child-bride.html on 10/03/2007]>>>.

For more information, go to, http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/20060320/hz_afghanistan_0306/blogs2986 or http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060415/ai_n16166745 or http://www.flickr.com/photos/hotzone/sets/72057594088946231/ or http://www.iheu.org/node/2562 or http://animescores.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9378&sid=9534e48391b68d74e16ae0de01548601 or http://marilyn.typepad.com/california_fever/2006/03/gulsoma.html.

CONCLUSION:

As can readily be seen, being a pedophile has been an accepted practice within Islam starting with its founder and continuing until today. Of course some will try and pass this evil off by saying that is just culture, but as I said in the introduction, <<<" Of course some will attempt to excuse pedophilism occurring in the Seventh century by saying that was the culture of that time and of course trying to dismiss wrong doing by saying it was the culture is a cop out since that could also be used to excuse the murderous practice of cannibalism which was part of the culture at that time of many tribes. But excuses do not make a wrong a right.

So let's face it, Islam who bills itself as the world's must sexually restrictive religion, actually had one of the most sexually indulgent individuals in all of history as its founder. Reality is that he had sex with just about anyone he pleased. He was married to up to eleven women at a time, and according to some accounts he relegated his many wives to either consecutive days or all in one night. He married a 6 year old girl and consummated it when she was 9 years old and even took his adopted son's wife for his own as she was sexually attractive to him. On top of that he had a multitude of slave girls and concubines - sometimes on the very day in which they watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of Muhammad's armies.[references - What does the Religion of Peace Teach About...The Sex Life of the Prophet, http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/025-Muhammads-sex-life.htm on 10/03/2007; and Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad, http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm on 10/03/2007; and On Mary, Muhammad's Concubine, http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/umar_mary.htm; and Encyclopedia of Islamic Myths:
Muhammad's had no more than 4 wives, http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myths-muhammad-sinless-4-wives.htm on 10/03/2007].">>>

So now a pertinent question, how could anyone possibly be a true prophet and commit such wrong practices against innocent children.

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CURRENT REALITH OF PEDOPHILISM WITHIN THE ISLAMIC CULT:

Actually, this wicked practice of pedophilism is so wide spread in Islam, it is difficult to know where to start, but I have decided to start with a case of a very bold young girl given to a pedophile by her father for 'marriage' and her breakaway from this rape situation as reported in the New York Times.

The New York Times published an article, "Tiny Voices Defy Child Marriage in Yemen," about a stunning act of courage and feminism: in the nation of Yemen, a 9-year-old girl named Arwa Abdu Muhammad Ali, on her own initiative, sought and obtained a divorce from the abusive, violent 35-year-old man she had been forcibly married to. Her success echoes that of a 10-year-old girl, Nujood Ali, who escaped a similar arranged marriage a month earlier.

...despite a rising tide of outrage, the fight against the practice is not easy. Hard-line Islamic conservatives, whose influence has grown enormously in the past two decades, defend it, pointing to the Prophet Muhammad's marriage to a 9-year-old. Child marriage is deeply rooted in local custom here, and even enshrined in an old tribal expression: "Give me a girl of 8, and I can give you a guarantee" for a good marriage. (Shades of the Jesuits: "Give me the child until he is seven, and I will show you the man" -Ebonmuse)

Inequality imbues the very air of this society, which makes it all the more noteworthy that some women have begun to fight back. In interviews, the article hints at the amazing maturity of these girls - children thrust into a situation that seemed far beyond their ken, far beyond any possibility of resistance, who nevertheless fought back and won.

...It was the first time she had traveled anywhere alone, Nujood recalled, and she was frightened. On arriving at the courthouse, she was told the judge was busy, so she sat on a bench and waited. Suddenly he was standing over her, imposing in his dark robes. "You're married?" he said, with shock in his voice.

...When Nujood's case was called the next Sunday, the courtroom was crowded with reporters and photographers, alerted by her lawyer. Her father and husband were also there; the judge had jailed them the night before to ensure that they would appear in court. (Both were released the next day.) "Do you want a separation, or a permanent divorce?" the judge, Muhammad al-Qadhi, asked the girl, after hearing her testimony and that of her father and her husband.
"I want a permanent divorce," she replied, without hesitation. The judge granted it.

...For their age, their courage and determination is astounding. It may well be that these girls succeeded because they are children, and haven't yet internalized the ideas of female oppression and inequality that are pervasive in their culture. Of course, they also had a major stroke of good fortune: both of them found sympathetic judges, rather than Islamic conservatives whose minds were warped by dogma and who probably would have sent them back to their abusive husbands. Now the details from the New York Times article.

<<<[ http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/world/middleeast/29marriage.html ] New York Times, JIBLA, Yemen - One morning last month, Arwa Abdu Muhammad Ali walked out of her husband's house here and ran to a local hospital, where she complained that he had been beating and sexually abusing her for eight months.

...Bryan Denton for The New York Times,
Nujood's father, Ali Muhammad al-Ahdal, who has 16 children, said that, with no husband, Nujood could have been abducted.

That alone would be surprising in Yemen, a deeply conservative Arab society where family disputes tend to be solved privately. What made it even more unusual was that Arwa was 9 years old.

Within days, Arwa - a tiny, delicate-featured girl - had become a celebrity in Yemen, where child marriage is common but has rarely been exposed in public. She was the second child bride to come forward in less than a month; in April, a 10-year-old named Nujood Ali had gone by herself to a courthouse to demand a divorce, generating a landmark legal case.

Together, the two girls' stories have helped spur a movement to put an end to child marriage [[To satisfy the needs of pedophiles]], which is increasingly seen as a crucial part of the cycle of poverty in Yemen and other third world countries. Pulled out of school and forced to have children before their bodies are ready, many rural Yemeni women end up illiterate and with serious health problems. Their babies are often stunted, too.

The average age of marriage in Yemen's rural areas is 12 to 13, a recent study by Sana University researchers found. The country, at the southern corner of the Arabian Peninsula, has one of the highest maternal mortality rates in the world.
"This is the first shout," said Shada Nasser, a human rights lawyer who met Nujood, the 10-year-old, after she arrived at the courthouse to demand a divorce. Ms. Nasser decided instantly to take her case. "All other early marriage cases have been dealt with by tribal sheiks [[Under Shariah Law which was basically written by a pedophile.]], and the girl never had any choice.[[Reality, a chance as their forced rape was called marriage]]"

But despite a rising tide of outrage, the fight against the practice is not easy. Hard-line Islamic conservatives, whose influence has grown enormously in the past two decades, defend it, pointing to the Prophet Muhammad's marriage to a 9-year-old [[The practices of a pedophile are used for the continuation of pedophilic practices - how unbelievable and wicked.]]. Child marriage is deeply rooted in local custom here, and even enshrined in an old tribal expression: "Give me a girl of 8, and I can give you a guarantee" for a good marriage [[Girl in effect becomes a sex slave.]].

"Voices are rising in society against this phenomenon and its catastrophes," said Shawki al-Qadhi, an imam and opposition member in Parliament who has tried unsuccessfully to muster support for a legal ban on child marriage in Yemen in the past. "But despite rejections of it by many people and some religious scholars, it continues."

The issue first arose because of Nujood, a bright-eyed girl barely four feet tall. Her ordeal began in February, when her father took her from Sana, the Yemeni capital, to his home village for the wedding. She was given almost no warning [[Or any say in the matter as the pedophile in all probability had bought her from her father.]].

"I was very frightened and worried," Nujood recalled, speaking in a soft, childlike voice as she sat cross-legged on the floor in her family's bare three-room home in a slum not far from Sana's airport. "I wanted to go home."

As she told her story, Nujood gradually gained confidence, smiling shyly as if she were struggling to hold back laughter. Later, she removed her veil, revealing her shoulder-length brown hair.

The trouble started on the first night, when her 30-year-old husband, Faez Ali Thamer, took off her clothes as soon as the light was out. She ran crying from the room, but he caught her, brought her back and forced himself on her. Later, he beat her as well [[Well obviously in Islam rape is sanctioned by pedophiles.]].

"I hated life with him," she said, staring at the ground in front of her. The wedding came so quickly that no one bothered to tell her how women become pregnant, or what a wife's role is, she added [[Why? Because young females are a commodity to be traded to pedophiles for something by poor families and/or families needing political favors.]].

Her father, Ali Muhammad al-Ahdal, said he had agreed to the marriage because two of Nujood's older sisters had been kidnapped and forcibly married [[Obviously many in Islam view young girls as a commodity that pedophiles either buy/trade for or just plain kidnap.]], with one of them ending up in jail. Mr. Ahdal said he had feared the same thing would happen to Nujood, and early marriage had seemed a better alternative.

A gaunt, broken-looking man, Mr. Ahdal once worked as a street sweeper. Now he and his family beg for a living. He has 16 children by two women.

Poverty is one reason so many Yemeni families marry their children off early. Another is the fear of girls being carried off and married by force [[Obviously many in Islam view young girls as a commodity that pedophiles either buy/trade for or just plain kidnap. So many families just sell/trade them to pedophiles.]],....

Nujood complained repeatedly to her husband's relatives and later to her own parents after the couple moved back to their house in Sana. But they said they could do nothing. To break a marriage would expose the family to shame [[The sum paid for her would have to be returned with penalties, i.e., just plain out and out rape.]]. Finally, her uncle told her to go to court. On April 2, she said, she walked out of the house by herself and hailed a taxi.

It was the first time she had traveled anywhere alone, Nujood recalled, and she was frightened. On arriving at the courthouse, she was told the judge was busy, so she sat on a bench and waited. Suddenly he was standing over her, imposing in his dark robes. "You're married?" he said, with shock in his voice.
Right away, he invited her to spend the night at his family's house, she said, since court sessions were already over for the day. There, she spent hours watching television, something she had never known in her family's slum apartment, which lacks even running water.

When Nujood's case was called the next Sunday, the courtroom was crowded with reporters and photographers, alerted by her lawyer. Her father and husband were also there; the judge had jailed them the night before to ensure that they would appear in court. (Both were released the next day.) "Do you want a separation, or a permanent divorce?" the judge, Muhammad al-Qadhi, asked the girl, after hearing her testimony and that of her father and her husband.

"I want a permanent divorce," she replied, without hesitation. The judge granted it.

Afterward, Ms. Nasser, the lawyer, took Nujood to a celebratory party at the offices of a local newspaper, where she was showered with dolls and other toys. Nujood lived with her uncle for a time after the ruling but then insisted on returning to her father's house. "I have forgiven him," she said. She swears she will never marry again, and she wants to become a human rights lawyer, like Ms. Nasser, or perhaps a journalist.

Despite the victory, Ms. Nasser and other advocates say they are worried about the lack of legal means to fight early marriage [[The pedophile rapist is never jailed it seems since the pedophile (false) prophet set the example, and deluded followers of this cult leader do NOT want to go against precedence set by this cult leader pedophile]]. Nujood's case only reached the court because she took such a wildly unusual step and happened on a sympathetic judge.

"We were lucky with this judge," Ms. Nasser said. "Another judge might not have accepted her in court, and would have asked her father or brother to come instead," and Nujood would probably still be married today [[To a pedophile rapist]].

A 1992 Yemeni law set the minimum legal age of marriage at 15. But in 1998 Parliament revised it, allowing girls to be married earlier as long as they did not move in with their husbands until they reached sexual maturity.
That change reflected the triumph of northern Yemen's more conservative Islamic culture over the secular and Marxist south after North and South Yemen united in 1990. In South Yemen, the government had passed a law in 1979 setting the age of marriage at 16 for women and 18 for men. An extensive public awareness campaign, including songs and television spots with titles like "The Victimized Daughter of the Tribe" and "Traditions and Rituals" helped educate people about the dangers posed by early marriage and pregnancy.

But in Yemen, as in Afghanistan - another country where child marriage is common - the fight against Communism ended with the triumph of a hard-line form of Islam. After war broke out in 1994, Ali Abdullah Saleh, then North Yemen's leader, sent jihadists to fight South Yemen. Critics say he has become politically indebted to conservative Islamists.

After Nujood's case became public, Ms. Nasser said she received angry letters from conservative women [[To stupid to realize they have been victimized]] denouncing her for her role. But she has also begun receiving calls about girls, some younger than Nujood, trying to escape their marriages.

One of them was Arwa, who was married last year at the age of 8 here in the ancient town of Jibla, four hours south of Sana. As with Nujood's case, Arwa's situation aroused a legal and social outrage.

Standing outside a relative's house here, her hands clasped in front of her, Arwa described how surprised she was when her father arranged her marriage to a 35-year-old man eight months ago. Like Nujood, she did not know the facts of life, she said. The man raped and beat her [[And what else would you expect a pedophile to do?]].

Finally, after months of misery, she ran to a hospital. Employees there took her to a police station, she said. A local judge, on receiving her case, briefly jailed the judge who had approved the marriage contract. Arwa is living with relatives while her case awaits a resolution. But her relatives rarely let her out of the house, fearing that her husband, who has refused the judge's demands that he appear in court, may take her again...[source - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/world/middleeast/29marriage.html ]>>>.

And another case in another Islamic country which will show many pedophiles are also sadist and belong to sadist families:

<<<"Child Bride [http://hotzone.yahoo.com/]
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KABUL, Afghanistan - Eleven-year old Gulsoma lay in a heap on the ground in front of her father-in-law. He told her that if she didn't find a missing watch by the next morning he would kill her. He almost had already. Enraged about the missing watch, Gulsoma's father-in-law had beaten her repeatedly with a stick. She was bleeding from wounds all over her body and her right arm and right foot had been broken.
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Child Bride
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Married at the age of four, an Afghan girl was subjected to years of beatings and torture, finally escaping to discover that within all the world's cruelty, there is also some kindness.

Enraged about the missing watch, Gulsoma's father-in-law had beaten her repeatedly with a stick. She was bleeding from wounds all over her body and her right arm and right foot had been broken.

She knew at that moment that if she didn't get away, he would make good on his promise to kill her.

* * *

When I meet her at the Ministry of Women's Affairs I'm surprised that the little girl, now 12, is the same one that had endured such horrible suffering. She is wearing a red baseball cap and an orange scarf. She has beautiful brown eyes and a full and animated smile. She takes one of my hands in both of hers and greets me warmly, without any hint of shyness.

"She looks healthy," says Haroon, my friend and translator. I nod. But she looks older than her years, we both agree. In orphanages - first in Kandahar, then in Kabul - she has had a year to recover from a lifetime's worth of unimaginable imprisonment, deprivation and torture.

In one of the ministry's offices she sits in a straight-backed wooden chair and tells us the story of her life so far. She is stoic for the most part, pausing only a few times to wipe her eyes and nose with her scarf.

Her story begins in the village of Mullah Allam Akhound, near Kandahar.

"When I was three years old my father died, and after a year my mother married again, but her second husband didn't want me," says Gulsoma. "So my mother gave me away in a promise of marriage to our neighbor's oldest son, who was thirty."

"They had a ceremony in which I was placed on a horse [which is traditional in Afghanistan] and given to the man."

Because she was still a child, the marriage was not expected to be sexually consummated. But within a year, Gulsoma learned that so much else would be required of her that she would become a virtual slave in the household.

At the age of five, she was forced to take care of not only her "husband" but also his parents and all 12 of their other children as well.

Though nearly the entire family participated in the abuse, her father-in-law, she says, was the cruelest.

"My father-in-law asked me to do everything - laundry, the household chores - and the only time I was able to sleep in the house was when they had guests over," she says. "Other than that I would have to sleep outside on a piece of carpet without even any blankets. In the summer it was okay. But in the winter a neighbor would come over and give me a blanket, and sometimes some food [[Slaves were usually treated much better than this]]."

When she couldn't keep up with the workload, Gulsoma says, she was beaten constantly.

Gulsoma's scars:

"They beat me with electric wires," she says, "mostly on the legs. My father-in-law told his other children to do it that way so the injuries would be hidden. He said to them, 'break her bones, but don't hit her on the face.'"

There were even times when the family's abuse of Gulsoma transcended the bounds of the most wanton, sadistic cruelty, as on the occasions when they used her as a human tabletop, forcing her to lie on her stomach then cutting their food on her bare back.

Gulsoma says the family had one boy her age, named Atiqullah, who refused to take part in her torture.

"He would sneak me food sometimes and when my mother-in-law told him to find a stick to beat me, he would come back say he couldn't find one," she says. "He would try to stop the others sometimes. He would say 'she is my sister, and this is sinful.' Sometimes I think about him and wish he could be here and I wish I could have him as my brother."

One evening, Gulsoma says, when her father-in-law saw the neighbor giving her food and a blanket, he took them away and beat her mercilessly. Then, she says, he locked her in a shed for two months.

"I would be kept there all day," she says, "then at night they would let me go the bathroom and I would be fed one time each day. Most of the time it was only bread and sometimes some beans."

She says every day she was locked in the shed, she wished and prayed that her parents would come and take her away. Then she would remember that her father was dead and her mother was gone.

But Gulsoma had an inner strength even her father-in-law couldn't comprehend.

"When he came to the shed he kept asking me, 'Why don't you die? I imprisoned you, I give you less food, but still you don't die.'"

But it wasn't for lack of trying. Gulsoma said when her father-in-law finally let her out of the shed, he bound her hands behind her back and beat her unconscious. She says he revived her by pouring a tea thermos filling with scalding water over her head and her back.

"It was so painful," she says, dabbing her eyes with her scarf and sniffling for a moment. "I was crying and screaming the entire time."

Five days later, she says, her father in law gave her a vicious beating when his daughter's wristwatch went missing.

"He thought I stole it," she says, "and he beat me all over my body with his stick. He broke my arm and my foot. He said if I didn't find it by the next day, he would kill me."

She crawled away that night and hid under a rickshaw. When the rickshaw driver found Gulsoma, broken and bleeding, he listened to her story and took her to the police. She was hospitalized immediately.

"The doctor at the hospital who treated me said, 'I wish I could take you to the village square and show all the people what happened to you, so no one would ever do something like this again,'" Gulsoma says.

It took her a full month to recover from her last beating. But the fear and psychological trauma may never go away.

"I was happy to have a bed and food at the hospital," she says. "But I was thinking that when I get better they will give me back to the family."

However, Gulsoma says when the police questioned the family, the father-in-law lied and tried to tell them she had epilepsy and had fallen down and hurt herself. But the neighbor who had helped Gulsoma confirmed the story of her beatings and torture.

The police arrested her father-in-law and "husband." They told her, she says, they would keep them in jail unless she asked for their release.

"Everyone was crying when they heard my story," Gulsoma says.

Gulsoma says she stayed at an orphanage in Kandahar, but was the only girl in the facility. Eventually, her story was brought to the attention of the Ministry of Women's Affairs.


The toll of torture:

Gulsoma was then brought to a Kabul orphanage, where she lives today. She takes off her baseball cap and shows us a bald spot, almost like a medieval monk's tonsure, on the crown of her head where she was scalded.

She then turns her back and raises her shirt to reveal a sad map of scar tissue and keloids from cuts, bruises and the boiling water.

Haroon and I look at each other with disbelief. Her life's tragic story is etched upon her back.

Yet she continues to smile. She doesn't ask for pity. She seems more concerned about us as she reads the shock on our faces.

"I feel better now," she says. "I have friends at the orphanage. But every night I'm still afraid the family will come here and pick me up."

Gulsoma also says that when the sun goes down, she sometimes begins to shiver involuntarily - a reaction to the seven years of sleeping outdoors, sometimes in the bitter cold of the desert night.

She says she believes there are other girls like her in Kandahar, maybe elsewhere in Afghanistan, and that she wants to study human rights and one day go back to help them.

As we walk outside to take some pictures, I ask her if, after all she's been through, she thinks it will be harder to trust, to believe that there are actually good people in the world.

"No," she says, quickly.

"I didn't expect anyone would help me but God. I was really surprised that there were also nice people: the neighbor, the rickshaw driver, the police," she says. "I pray for those who helped release me."

Looking directly into the camera, she smiles as if nothing bad had ever happened to her in her entire life.

"I think that all people are good people," she says, "except for those that hurt me."

SUPPORT GULSOMA:

The Kevin Sites in the Hot Zone team has set up an email account so that messages of support can be retrieved and forwarded to Gulsoma via a local organization. Click here to email your message.

To learn more about how you can help Gulsoma and other children in need in Afghanistan, click here.

CHILDREN RESPOND

A number of children Gulsoma's age posted messages of support for her. Read the comments here."[source - [http://hotzone.yahoo.com/]
[http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs2986;_ylt=Ao9Z3J4kVlibglG0UHo0LdmLFMsF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjZzJsamRkBHNlYwNibG9nLWVudA-- ]>>>.

Young females considered a commodity less valuable than dogs when given to pedophiles:

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June 05, 2008

15 MUSLIM CHILD BRIDES USED AS PAYMENT FOR DEATH OF DOG

How many times has the Western World been chastised, denounced as Islamophobic and threatened by muslims, for saying that the muslim religion is "HYPERLINK "http://www.islam-watch.org/AyeshaAhmed/Pedophilia-Islam-Allah-allowed-Prophet-Muhammad-Practised.htm"soft on pedophilia"? If this taboo subject, abhorred by ALL Western nations, has no place in Islam then why are little girls - ages between 3 - 10 years old - considered old enough to be bartered (for a dead dog) as marriageable = brides??

Whereas it is commendable that some government officials, in Pakistan, are voicing their outrage-- the HYPERLINK "http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/025-Muhammads-sex-life.htm"origination of the source of the mindset that foments much of the muslim population to consider the use of little girls (referred to in article as "ladies") as chattel capable of performing "wifely" duties [[For sexual perverts known as pedophiles.]] - though "unspeakable" is clear.

entire article - emphasis mine
HYPERLINK "http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/05/pakistan.humanrights?gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews"15 CHILD BRIDES USED TO SETTLE PAKISTAN FEUD
* HYPERLINK "http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/declanwalsh"Declan Walsh in Islamabad
* HYPERLINK "http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian"The Guardian,
* Thursday June 5 2008
* Article history
*
It started with a dead dog, escalated into a tit-for-tat tribal war, and has now reached a grotesque climax with the exchange of 15 child brides [[For sexual perverts known as pedophiles in the other tribe.]].

Pakistani human rights activists are outraged at reports that a long-running blood feud in a remote corner of western Baluchistan province has been resolved by the handing over of 15 girls, aged between three and 10, for marriage [[To sexual perverts known as pedophiles in the other tribe.]].

"There has to be action," said Asma Jahangir, a leading rights campaigner. "These people who force others to sell their daughters [[To Islamic pedophiles.]] must be sent to prison."

The new government in Islamabad, led by the party of the late Benazir Bhutto, has promised to act. "We will not allow young girls to be traded like this [[To pedophiles to work out their perverted sexual and sadistic pleasures]]," said the information minister, Sherry Rehman. "The culprits who tried to do this will be arrested. The orders have been given."

But Jahangir said those orders had not been acted upon. "There is a dysfunction in the whole system. They are not listening to the government," she said. "We need to see them being more effective than just rhetoric."

Vanni, an ancient tribal practice in which feuding clans settle their differences by exchanging women for marriage, is illegal in Pakistan. In 2004 the Sindh high court outlawed all such "parallel justice" [[But Shirah law still holds with all its injustices.]] systems. But the writ of government is weak in rural areas, and local police often turn a blind eye.

The current controversy started with a row over a dog, said Muhammad Paryal Marri, a researcher in northern Sindh for the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.

A dog owned by one tribe, the Chakranis, was shot dead because it strayed too close to a well controlled by their rivals, the Qalandaris. In revenge the Chakranis shot a donkey belonging to the other side. A ferocious bout of tit-for-tat killings ensued in which 19 people, including five women, were killed.
The fighting ended in 2002 when Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti - a rebellious tribal chieftain who was later killed by the Pakistan army - brought the two sides together. Bugti ordered the Chakranis to hand over 15 child brides in compensation [[Why not as the leader of the cult, Islam, they belonged to was a pervert who, in keeping with the lust of pedophiles for young female children, actually married a six (6) year old and consummated it at nine (9) after her first mensal bleed, setting a perverted example to follow]]; at a jirga, or tribal council. Last Friday they finally agreed to make good on that promise, said Marri.

"They agreed to pay some money and exchange the ladies," he said.
Such brutal traditions have only come to light for a broader public in the past decade, thanks to activism by human rights groups and publicity from local media...

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In some countries controlled by Islam, many members of this cult even murder their daughters or force them to commit suicide because they have been force ably raped. To read about this, go to:

[1] Murder of One's Daughter Tacitly Approved by Islam at,

http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=women&thread=1168368344

THE FALSE PROPHET PEDOPHILE WITH EVIDENCE:

As said in the introduction, "It is sickening to even consider an adult man being sexually aroused by a six (6) year old, and brands such a man as a wicked and sick pedophile. The mere thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people. Yet many regard young female children as commodities to be sold or traded to pedophiles within their society.

Why, probably because they accept a pedophile as their religious leader and because in their present society there are so many pedophiles that they in their warped view of what is right and wrong look on pedophilism as okay.

It is difficult to accept that the "Holy Prophet?" married Aisha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old. But this is reality and well documented. His cult followers of today attempt to just his pedophilism and that of his modern day followers with uncalled for lies and cover up of the truth, but their own Hadiths 'out them.'

Now for individuals who have not had much contact with Islam, one encyclopedia defines 'Hadith' as follows:

<<<" Hadith (?????? transliteration: al-?adith, pl. a?adith; lit. "narrative") are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Hadith collections are regarded as important tools for determining the Sunnah, or Muslim way of life, by all traditional schools of jurisprudence." [source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]>>>.

Now let's look in brief at exerts from some of these Hadiths with regard the (false) prophet being a pedophile who was pervertedly sexually aroused by a six (6) year old girl with whom he consumated the arousal with sexual intercourse at nine (9) years old.

A writer, Silas, at <<<[http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/childbrides.htmMUHAMMAD, AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD BRIDES]
by Silas

Said, Muhammad was 52 and Aisha was 9 when they married and sexually consummated their marriage. Muhammad followed an Arab [[Pedophile]] custom in marrying a child who had her first menstrual cycle. This action must be questioned, regardless of it being a cultural norm, because Muhammad's action and teachings on marriage established an Islamic precedent: a girl is judged an adult following her first menses, and is eligible for marriage and sexual relations. Thus Muslim men are allowed to marry and have intercourse with young girls who have happened to have an early first menstrual cycle. As will be shown, this leads to physical and psychological damage to the child."

...

What is more critical than Muhammad's single action with Aisha is that he taught that a girl is considered an adult following her first menstrual cycle. He also taught that his followers were to follow his "sunnah" or lifestyle. Thus today, throughout much of the Mideast, girls as young as nine are often married by [[Perverted pedophiles]] men old enough to be their grandfather." [source - http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/childbrides.htmMUHAMMAD, AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD BRIDES]>>>.

Now evidence that Aisha was only nine (9) when the (false) Prophet Muhammad had sexual relations for her is found in some of the most respected and reliable Hadiths such as the Hadith of Sahih Bukhari. Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, while at the Islamic University in Medina, Saudi Arabia, translated this Hadith into English, and this Hadith is considered by many in Islam as second only to the Quran. In fact, this translation was signed off by Dr. Amin Amin Al-Masri, Ph.D. Cambridge University. Who is the Advisor and Head of the Sharia Dept., at the College of Sharia and Islamic Studies in Mecca.

[1] Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: 'I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).'"[source - Bukhari, vol. 7, #65]

[2] Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
"Narrated Urwa: 'The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).'" [source - Bukhari, vol. 7, #88]

[3] Bukhari vol. 5, #234 says:
"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age." [source - Bukhari, vol. 5, #234]

Now let's look at English translations of other well regarded Hadiths:

[1] Sahih Muslim vol. 2, #3309 says:
"Aisha reported: Allah's Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine...." [source - Hadith of Sahih Muslim vol. 2, #3309]

[2] The Sunan of Abu Dawud, vol. 2, #2116 says:
""Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old." [source - The Hadith of Sunan of Abu Dawud - the third most respected Hadith in all of Islam.]

Now let's consider what credible and respectable encyclopedias have to say:

[1] <<<"'The Encyclopedia of Islam', under "Aisha". (pub. by E.J. Brill).
"Some time after the death of Khadija, Khawla suggested to Muhammad that he should marry either Aisha, the 6 year old daughter of his chief follower, or Sawda Zama, a widow of about 30, who had gone as a Muslim to Abyssinia and whose husband had died there. Muhammad is said to have asked her to arrange for him to marry both [[What a way for a pedophile to get more sexual pleasure]]. It had already been agreed that Aisha should marry Djubayr Mutim, whose father, though still pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. By common consent, however, this agreement was set aside, and Muhammad was betrothed to Aisha.... The marriage was not consummated until some months after the Hidjra, (in April 623, 624). Aisha went to live in an apartment in Muhammad's house, later the mosque of Median. She cannot have been more than ten years old at the time and took her toys to her new home." [source - 'The Encyclopedia of Islam,' published by E. J. Brill.]>>>.

[2] The Encyclopedia, Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, says,
<<<"Aisha bint Abu Bakr (d. 678) (Arabic ????? Transliteration: ?a?isha, IPA: [?a????æh] "she who lives", also transcribed as A'ishah, Ayesha, 'A'isha, or 'Aisha, Turkish Ayse, Ottoman Turkish Âise etc.) was the second wife of Muhammad. In Islamic writings, she is thus often referred to by the title "Mother of the Believers" (Arabic: ??? ???????? umm-al-mu'minin), per the description of Muhammad's wives as "Mothers of Believers" in the Qur'an (33.6), and later, as the "Mother of Believers", as in Qutb's Ma'alim fi al-Tariq (pps6). She is quoted as source for many hadith, sacred traditions about the prophet Muhammad's life, with Muhammad's personal life being the topic of most narrations. She has narrated 2210 Hadiths out of which 316 hadiths are mentioned in both Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim
Aisha was initially betrothed to Jubayr ibn Mut'im, a Muslim whose father, though pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. When Khawla bint Hakim suggested that Muhammad marry Aisha after the death of Muhammad's first wife (Khadijah bint Khuwaylid), the previous agreement regarding marriage of Aisha with ibn Mut'im was put aside by common consent.[1] Watt suggests that Muhammad hoped to strengthen his ties with Abu Bakr;[1] the strengthening of ties commonly served as a basis for marriage in Arabian culture.[2]
Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad. She stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, when the marriage was consummated [1][3][4][5] The marriage was delayed until after the Hijra, or migration to Medina, in 622. Aisha and her older sister Asma bint Abi Bakr only moved to Medina after Muhammad had already migrated there. Abu Bakr gave Muhammad the money to build a house for himself. After this, the wedding was celebrated very simply. The sources do not offer much more information about Aisha's childhood years, but mention that after the wedding, she continued to play with her toys, and Muhammad entered into the spirit of these games.[6]
References:

[1] Watt, "Aisha", Encyclopedia of Islam Online

[2] Amira Sonbol, Rise of Islam: 6th to 9th century, Encyclopedia of Women and Islamic Cultures

[3] Barlas (2002), p.125-126

[4] Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234, 5:58:236, 7:62:64, 7:62:65, 7:62:88, Sahih Muslim 8:3309, 8:3310, 8:3311, Sunnan Abu Dawud 41:4915, 41:4917

[5] Tabari, Volume 9, Page 131; Tabari, Volume 7, Page 7

[6] Watt, Muhammad: Prophet and Statesman, Oxford University Press 1961, page 102.
[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]>>>.

[Special footnote - The definition of the word "consummate". In Sahih Bukhari, vol. 7, #64, the root word used is "dakhala". From the Hans-Wehr Arabic-English Dictionary p273, it means "to enter, to pierce, to penetrate, to consummate the marriage, cohabit, sleep with a woman"].

Dangers of pedophile activity practiced by sexual deviants on very young females with respect to health.

<<<" http://babynet.ddwi.com/tlc/pregnancy/teenfact.html
"Health Risks to the Mother"
"A teenage mother is more at risk of pregnancy complications such as premature or prolonged labor, anemia and high blood pressure. These risks are even greater for teens who are less than 15 years old.(3)"
"Health Risks to the Baby"
"A baby born to a teenage mother is more at risk than a baby born to an older mother.
"Nine percent of teenage girls have low-birthweight babies (under 5.5 lbs.), compared to 7 percent of all mothers nationally.(1)"
"Low-birthweight babies may have organs that are not fully developed. This can lead to lung problems such as respiratory distress syndrome, or bleeding in the brain."
"Low-birthweight babies are 40 times more likely to die in their first month of life than normal-weight babies." [source - The United Way - March of Dimes Birth Defects Foundation: Teen facts at http://babynet.ddwi.com/tlc/pregnancy/teenfact.html on 9/18/2008].

From the United Nations:

<<<"...Child marriage robs a girl of her childhood-time necessary to develop physically, emotionally and psychologically. In fact, early marriage inflicts great emotional stress as the young woman is removed from her parents' home to that of her husband and in-laws. Her husband, who will invariably be [[A perverted pedophile.]] many years her senior, will have little in common with a young teenager [[Or pre-teenager if the pedophile gets his greatest wish, a very young female, hopefully under 10 years of age.]]. It is with this strange man that she has to develop an intimate emotional and physical relationship [[Even when he brutally rapes her.]]. She is obliged to have intercourse, although physically she might not be fully developed....

...Health complications that result from early marriage in the Middle East and North Africa, for example, include the risk of operative delivery, low weight and malnutrition resulting from frequent pregnancies and lactation in the period of life when the young mothers are themselves still growing....

The work of the Committee has also permitted the identification of certain areas where law reform should be undertaken, in both civil and penal areas, such as the minimum age for marriage and establishment of the age of criminal responsibility as being the attainment of puberty. Some States have argued that girls attain their physical maturity earlier, but it is the view of the Committee that maturity cannot simply be identified with physical development when social and mental development are lacking and that, on the basis of such criteria, girls are considered adults before the law upon marriage, thus being deprived of the comprehensive protection ensured by the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The International Conference on Population and Development, held at Cairo in September 1994 (see p. 36 below), encouraged Governments to raise the minimum age for marriage. In her preliminary report to the Commission on Human Rights, the Special Rapporteur on violence against women, its causes and consequences, Ms. Radhika Coomaraswamy, also recognized that the age of marriage was a factor contributing to the violation of women's rights [[i.e., brutal rape by a sadistic pedophile]]...

Early pregnancy can have harmful consequences for both young mothers and their babies. According to UNICEF, no girl should become pregnant before the age of 18 because she is not yet physically ready to bear children. Babies of mothers younger than 18 tend to be born premature and have low body weight; such babies are more likely to die in the first year of life. The risk to the young mother's own health is also greater. Poor health is common among indigent pregnant and lactating women. ...

An additional health risk to young mothers is obstructed labor, which occurs when the baby's head is too big for the orifice of the mother. This provokes vesicovaginal fistulas, especially when an untrained traditional birth attendant forces the baby's head out unduly....

Generally throughout the developing world, the average food intake of pregnant and lactating mothers is far below that of the average male. Cultural practices, including nutritional taboos, ensure that pregnant women are deprived of essential nutriments [[They might rebel if they were sufficiently nourished.]], and as a result they tend to suffer from iron and protein deficiencies...." [source - The United Nations at http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu6/2/fs23.htm on 9/18/2008]

Now, science teaches us that young girls are not mature just because they have had their first menstrual bleed, but science teaches us that pre-teenage girls should NOT be bearing children. Their bodies are NOT ready for it. Pregnancies of pre-teenage girls are frequently harmful to both mother and child.

But Islam does not take this into account due to the very bad example established by their perverted pedophile (false) prophet. Therefore, forcible rape aside practiced by pedophile members of Islam is okay regardless of its outcome on the mother's or child's health. Because early marriage of girls [[Usually forcibly to pedophiles.]] is permitted in Islam, [[following first menstrual bleed]], it, the Islamic cult, cannot change it's position on this issue. Consequently, this type of abuse occurs throughout the Islamic world. If anyone wants to see just how bad child abuse is in the Islamic world, just check out some of the:

United Nations sites on the subject.

www.Watchtower.org site on the subject.

http://hotzone.yahoo.com/ on the subject.

New York Times web sites on the subject.

So unlike the Islamic untruth teller mentioned in the INTRODUCTION, I have provided an over abundance of evidence and sources in an honest, balanced, and forth-right way, and NOT as un-backed up false accusations and conjecture.

See part 3

PART 4
Timeline of Mohammed and Aisha
Event (+/- 2 years)
A.D.
A.H.
Mohammed born
570
-53
Migration to Ethiopia
617
-5
Aisha married at 6-7
622
0
Migration to Medina
623
1
Marriage consummated at 8-9
623
1
Battles of Badr & Uhud
625
3
At 63 Mohammed died. Aisha 19
633
11
Aisha revolts against Ali
656
35
Note that the interpretations and explanations of official hadith scholars, in trying to explain the rationale for her young age when the marriage was consummated, confirm the young age.
Footnote 2728 on the same page says in part: "Thus the marriage of the Prophet (may peace be upon him) with Aisha at an age when she was at the threshold of puberty was a great necessity, as it was through her that instructions could successfully be imparted to the young ladies who had newly entered the fold of Islam. Moreover, this marriage struck at the root of a wrong notion which had firmly taken hold of the minds of the people that it was contrary to religious ethics to marry the daughter of a man whom one declared to be ones brother." [Abu Bakr and Mohammed were brothers in religion, but not biological brothers.]
After Mohammed died, later in life Aisha started a Muslim Civil war, culminating with the Battle of the Camel [Jamal].
Muslims have said that either people got married younger back then, and/or girls in hotter countries tend to mature earlier. However, the age of marriage is not an issue, because even when children are married when both are less than one year old, they do not live together as husband and wife until the wife is old enough to bear children. As a result of Mohammeds example, as mentioned previously, Nigerian Muslim girls have often been married early, and gotten pregnant before their young bodies were capable of bearing children. The Nigerian girls were raised in a hot climate too.
Eleven Possible Objections
A minority view denies that Mohammed had sex with a nine-year old, usually claiming that Aisha 17 to 19 years old. Here are reasons given, and some responses.
Objection 1: Doubts on Three of the Transmitters
1.1 An unnamed man from Quraysh is a transmitter in al-Tabari vol.7 (year A.H. 1) p.7, which is a weak reference.
1.2 Hisham ibn Urwah is a transmitter in many quotes. If he was mistaken, then all the people who accurately quoted him would have wrong information too. Mizanu'l-ai`tidal, a book on the [life sketches of the] narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh) reports that when he was old, Hisham's memory suffered quite badly. (vol.4, p.301-302)
Tehzibu'l-tehzib, one of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh) reports that according to Yaqub ibn Shaibah: "narratives reported by Hisham are reliable except those that are reported through the people of Iraq". It further states that Malik ibn Anas objected on those narratives of Hisham which were reported through people of Iraq. (vol.11, p. 48 - 51)
1.3 Muhammad ibn Amr is called weak by Ibn Abu Hatim in Al-Jarah wa al-Tadeel: Yahya said, "he is not among those whom you would desire [to report from]." Abu Hatim asked Malik who said similar, and Yahya bin Mueen said "People refrain from accepting his narratives"
Al-Dhahabiy in "Siyar Aa`laam al-Nubalaa", says that Juzyanniy said that Muhammad ibn Amr is not strong [in reliability]. Al-Dhabahiy also says Yahya ibn Qataan said Muhammad ibn Amr was not very careful in reporting narratives.
Uqailiy also said Muhammad ibn Amr was a weak [less reliable] narrator in al-Du`afaa al-`uqailiy, vol. 4, p.109.
Response to 1: Even assuming Hisham, ibn Amr, and an unnamed man are all weak transmitters, weak does not necessary mean they are wrong. Also, what about the more who are not weak? Here is a scorecard
A Scorecard on References
Narrator
Strong refs
Weaker refs
Counter refs
al-Bukhari
4
1
0
Sahih Muslim
3
1
0
Abu Dawud
6
1
0
Tirmidhi
1
0
0
Nasai
5
0
0
Ibn-i-Majah
1
1
0
Ibn Ishaq
1
0
0
al-Tabari
0
3
1
TOTAL
21
7
1
7 weaker references do not cancel out strong references; rather they add to their credibility.
Objection 2: No other Medina narrators
Hisham ibn Urwah lived in Medina for 70 years and then moved to Iraq. Why did no one else from Medina narrate that Aisha was eight or nine? Also the other narrators are all from Iraq.
Response to 2: This is an argument from silence: many people did not report anything about Aishas age of her consummated marriage. Also, Iraq would be a good source, because both Aisha and many companions moved to Iraq by Uthmans time. Of course, we can assume Aisha remembered when she got married, and told others.
Objection 3: Did Arabs have child marriages?
There is [allegedly] no reference to child marriage in the history of the Arabs, so if Mohammed did this, one would expect this out of the ordinary incident to be reported by large numbers of people. No one would object to this young marriage if in fact it never happened.
Response 3: While this was reported by a number of people, there is in fact at least one reference to child marriage (and consummation) in Mohammeds time. A lady [presumably married] became a grandmother at 21 years old according to Bukhari vol.3 book 48 ch.18 no.831 p.514. Finally, no one objected to the reporting of this young marriage, because the Muslim scholars agreed that it did happened.
Objection 4: Young girl when Sura 54:46 written
Aisha said she was a young girl when Sura 54:46 [al-Qamar on the splitting of the moon] was written, which [allegedly] was about 9 years before Hejira. She did not say infant [sibyah], but young girl [jariya]. (taken fromhttp://www.understanding-islam.com/ri/mi-004.htm)
This is according to Bukhari, kitabu'l-tafsir, Arabic, Bab Qaulihi Bal al-sa`atu Maw`iduhum wa'l-sa`atu adha' wa amarr.
Response to 4: There are three parts to answer.
1a (word use): This argument hinges on allegedly not being able to use jariya as a generic word for any girl who is pre-teen. Yet many narratives said the Aisha still played with dolls when she was married to Mohammed.
1b (wrong Sura): It is easier for a few narrators to forget the correct sura than for a great many narrators to forget she was a child wife.
1c (wrong time for Sura): It might be the correct sura, but we do not really know when Sura 54:46 was written. Both Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Baariy and Maudid say it was about 5 years before Hejira, not 9 years before.
Objection 5: Aisha at Badr and Uhud
Some narratives said that Aisha accompanied the army at the battles of Badr and Uhud (both in 3 A.H.). The hadiths also show that boys under 15 years old were allowed to take part in the Battle of Uhud. al-Tabari vol.12 (A.H. 14) p.75 says a boy participated in the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah only after attaining puberty. The narratives mentioning Aisha at Uhud are: Bukhari, Kitabu'l-jihad wa'l-siyar, Arabic, Bab Ghazwi'l-nisa' wa qitalihinna ma`a'lrijal. References that boys below 15 could not participate are: Bukhari vol.3 book 48 ch.18 no.832 p.514, Kitabu'l-maghazi, Bab ghazwati'l-khandaq wa hiya'l-ahza'b.
Response to 5: Aisha, being a girl, never fought in any battles. The age of 15 "is the limit between childhood and manhood". So what would a girl be there for?
An 10/11-year old, besides keeping Mohammed company at night, had many things to do. The women and young children went on the battlefield after the battle and gave water to the wounded Muslims and finished off the enemy wounded. al-Tabari vol.12 (A.H. 14) p.127,146. During the days of the battle, the women and children were there to dig graves for the dead. al-Tabari vol.12 (A.H. 14) p.107
Finally, young Aisha was considered an adult, for Muslims called a girl an adult when she first started her period according to the English translators note in Bukhari vol.3 book 48 ch.18 prior to no.832 p.513.
Objection 6: Aishas ten-year older sister Asma died in 73 A.D. when she was 100 years old.
Taqribul-tehzib and Al-bidayah wal-nihayah say that Asma died in 73 A.H. when she was 100 years old. Since Asma would have been about 26/27 in 1 A.H., that would make Aisha 16/17 in 1 A.H., not 8-9 years old. (References to Asma age at death are: ibn Hajar al-Asqalani in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b p.654 and ibn Kathir in Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah vol.8 p.372 Arabic. References to Asma being ten years older are: Abda'l-Rahman ibn abi zanna'd, Siyar A`la'ma'l-nubala', Al-Zahabi, vol.2, p.289, Arabic, Mu'assasatu'l-risalah, Beirut, 1992, ibn Kathir in Al-Bidayah wa'l-nihayah, Ibn Kathir, Vol 8, Pg 371, Arabic, Dar al-fikr al-`arabi, Al-jizah, 1933)
Response to 6: Assuming these books are reliable on this point, people can report the age of someone incorrectly after they died.
For example, if you trust ibn Hajar on the previous slide on when Asma died, you should trust him ibn Hajars Isabah IV, p.359-360 when he shows Aisha was married by the time she was 9 years old. (footnote in al-Tabari vol.11 (A.H. 13) p.141 footnote 766)
What about the dolls? Contrary to Objection 6, a writer reported that many Muslim sources refer to Aisha still playing with her dolls when she was married. (Sahih Muslim vol.2 book 8 ch.548 no.3310,3311 p.716; Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 29 ch.1005 no.5981-5982 p.1299; Sunan Abu Dawud vol.3 book 36 ch.1769 no.4913 p.1373, ibn Hanbal.
Objection 7: al-Tabari said Abu Bakr had four children in the pre-Islamic period.
Since Aisha was one of the children, she would have to be at least 13 or 14 years old when the marriage was consummated.
Response to 7: al-Tabari vol.11 (A.H. 13) p.141 footnote 766 says that al-Tabari is contradictory here. He also said Aisha was 8-9 when the marriage was consummated. Tabari reported a great number of things, and he or his sources were mistaken on something. However, a person would remember something important better than something unimportant. Al-Tabari had three places where Aisha would be 8-10 when the marriage was consummated, and only one place that would make her somewhat older.
Objection 8: Aisha accepted Islam before Umar bin Khattab according to Ibn Hisham in Sirah al-Nabawiyyah vol.1 p.227-24 (Arabic). She was the 20/21st person while Umar was the 41st (ibid vol.1 p.295). Thus one Muslim claims this proves Aisha had to have accepted Islam during the first year (c.610 A.D.)
Response to 8: Three parts to the answer.
1. Nobody today really knows the order. In general there is lengthy disagreement on the order of who accepted Islam, as al-Tabari vol.5 (Holders of Power after Ardashir b. Babak) p.80-87; vol.12 (A.H. 14) p.38 discuss. If they cannot even agree on the first five men, how can they know the 21st?
2. Aisha never converted to Islam, because she never remembered a time when Mohammed did not come by twice a day and her parents were not Muslims. This is prior to the first migration to Ethiopia (617 A.D.) (Bukhari vol.5 book 58 ch.44 no.245 p.158).
3. Umar became a Muslim just after the first migration to Ethiopia (617 A.D.) according to Ibn Ishaq p.155,156. So what Ibn Hisham counts as Aishas "conversion" could be between birth and three years old.
Objection 9: According to al-Tabari, Eight years before Hejira, when Abu Bakr planned on migrating Habshah, Aisha was engaged to marry Mutam. Abu Bakr asked Mutam to take Aisha into his house, but Mutam refused because Abu Bakr had become a Muslim. Thus Aisha had to be old enough to be a wife eight years before Hejira. Another reference is Tehqiq e umar e Siddiqah e Ka'inat, Habib ur Rahman Kandhalwi, Urdu, p.38, Anjuman Uswa e hasanah, Karachi, Pakistan
Response to 9: Even if this account is accurate, Arabs both then and today often betrothed girls soon after they were born. Abu Bakr had other daughters and it might have been one of them.
Objection 10: According to the Islamic jurist Ahmad ibn Hanbal, before Aisha was married, she was called in Arabic a bikr, which means virgin or unmarried lady. (Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, v.6, p. 210, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-`arabi, Beirut.
Response to 10: The word bikr means virgin and is not age-specific. If she was already a young lady, why would Mohammed wait for three years after marrying her before consummating the marriage? Also, the English translators note in Bukhari vol.3 book 48 ch.18 prior to no.832 p.513 says they called a girl an adult when she first started her period.
Objection 11: Ibn Hajar reported that Fatima, Mohammeds daughter, was born when Mohammed was 35 years old, which would make her five years older the Aisha. That would make Aisha 15/16 years old when they consummated their marriage. (Al-isabah fi tamyizi'l-sahabah, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Vol 4, Pg 377, Arabic, Maktabatu'l-Riyadh al-haditha, al-Riyadh, 1978)
Response to 11: Sunan Nasai vol.1 #29 p.115-116 (English material at the front) actually says that Fatima was 29 years old when she died (six months after Mohammed), which makes her ten years older than Aisha. So either Ibn Hajar, or else everybody else made a mistake. The authoritative hadiths would be trusted by most Sunni Muslims more than Ibn Hajar. Regardless though, Aisha was younger.
What If Mohammed Did Not After All?
Let's assume for a second, that some westernized Muslims are correct on this; all the hadith sources and most al-Tabari references on this are wrong, and Aisha was not 8 or 9 but a teenager when Mohammed consummated his marriage to her. If these many hadiths are all wrong then there are four questions to ask Muslims.
1. What does "Sunni" mean if not the Muslims tradition of the hadiths?

What distinguishes a Sunni Muslim? It is one who:
a) politically who thinks Abu Bakr, 'Umar, and 'Uthman were rightful caliphs
b) religiously who believes the Sunnah, or traditions in the hadith are usually reliable, and at the very least, Allah did not give the hadiths to lead people to do wrong things Allah would not approve of.
2. Why Would Allah Let the Hadiths Warp Islamic Society for over 1,200 years?
Consider the already mentioned prevalence of child brides today in Nigeria and other Muslim places, and the medical horrors of girls who just started menstruating but are too young to give birth. Regardless of whether some modernist Muslims are right or the substantial body of Islamic scholarship is right, everyone agrees that the authoritative hadiths of Sunni Islam give the example of Mohammed consummating his marriage to Aisha when she was only 8/9 years old and playing with dolls.
If all these hadiths were wrong, do you agree that these hadiths are giving a bad example, and lending support to this cruel practice?
"Allah is the best of schemers/deceivers". Sura 3:54. Was this deception one of Allahs schemes, Satans schemes, or was this sex with a nine-year old not a scheme?
3. According to Islam, What Happens If You Follow the Wrong Sect?

According to the same hadiths, Muslims will be split into 72 or 73 sects, and they clearly say that all will go to Hell except one. (Abu Dawud vol.3 no.4579-4580 p.1290-1291; Ibn-i-Majah vol.5 book 36 ch.17 no.3992 p.312). The Qur'an also speaks against those who split up and become sects in Sura 30:32. If the hadiths are wrong on this point, and they are evil in supporting this horrible practice, if you are a Sunni Muslim, you are in the wrong sect. The very "Sunni-ness" of Sunni Islam
has
a) misled people horribly
b) condemns Muslims who are in a misleading sect. If people found themselves in the "wrong sect", then if they want to please God, shouldn't that change and leave that sect?
4. Might the Correct Path be Called Something You Did Not Expect?

If Sunni Islam were the wrong sect and the consequences of following its bad examples are severe, is it possible the right path might not be called Islam?
Four Questions for Traditional Muslims Only
Everyone has to agree that the hadiths and the vast bulk of Islamic scholarship both in the past and present teach that Mohammed had sex with a young eight or nine year old girl.
Here are four questions, but these questions are only for Muslims who teach that the hadiths are reliable.
1. Why do many Muslim teachers say that Sharia Muslim law is good, yet cover up this part?
2. When you say that Mohammed is sinless, does merely mean that anything he did and condoned you will not call wrong? If not, is there any rape or other sexual practice that you would condemn, even if Mohammed permitted or practiced it?
3. Why do so many westernized Muslims fail to follow the teachings of the hadiths? What do they see that perhaps you do not?
4. If you tell people to follow the hadiths, and you have still or moving pictures of people in your home (including TV), have you read the numerous things the Quran and hadiths say about hypocrites?
For reference hadiths banning all pictures of people or animals (including photographs and TV) are:
Bukhari vol.3 book 34 ch.41 no.318 p.180-181; vol.4 book 54 ch.45-46 no.447-450 p.297-299; vol.8 book 73 ch.75 no.130 p.82-83; vol.9 book 93 ch.56 no.646 p.487
Sahih Muslim vol.3 book 22 ch.5382 no.5246-5252 p.1157-1158; vol.3 footnotes 2519-2520 p.1160-1161
Abu Dawud vol.1 book 1 ch.92 no.227 p.55-56; vol.3 book 36 ch.1769 no.4913-4914 footnote 4288 p.1373.
Sunan Nasai vol.1 book 1 ch.169 no.264 p.240; vol.1 book 9 ch.454 no.764 p.471
Ibn-i-Majah vol.4 book 29 ch.56 no.3359 p.481; vol.5 book 32 ch.44 no.3649-3651 p.108-109. (no.3652 also mentions it, but 3652 is considered a weak (daif) hadith.
In the late 1960s there were violent actions in Saudi Arabia when pictures of people were shown on TV.
Conclusion: Do not pay attention to a traditionalist, unless you find a consistent traditionalist. If you cannot find a consistent traditionalist, then reject those who tell you to follow what they themselves do not.
Conclusion for Sunni Muslims who would like to reject the Sunnah
For modernized Sunni Muslims who reject the hadiths, here are the four questions again.
1. What does the word "Sunni" mean?
2. Did Allah deceive his followers for centuries?
3. What does Islam say about those in the wrong sect?
4. Could the correct way be one you overlooked?
Conclusion: Many times even knowledgeable historians make little mistakes, but this is no little mistake. If all these Muslim historians said this terrible thing about Mohammed, what can you trust about the Mohammed of Muslim history? Yet if even the Quran allows sex with whom your right hands possess
The Alternative : Follow the True God
Leave bad tradition. In fact, do not place your love and loyalty with any tradition. Seek only God. Even Muslims have respect for the Torah and Bible, though few have read them. Why not read the gospels and see how different was the teaching of Jesus?
Appendix: Various Cultures
The Christian writer Tertullian, writing 200-240 A.D., in On the Veiling of Virgins ch.11 p.34 mentions that even barbarians did not dispatch to their businesses girls until they were 12, and boys until they were 14 years old. The context here is betrothal in marriage, though one might argue it is consummating a marriage. Now a twelve-year old and an eight or nine-year old are rather different, and Mohammed consummated his marriage with Aisha so much earlier than even the barbarians.
Lest someone think all Muslim countries are the same on this issue, in Tunisia polygamy is banned, and the minimum age for marriage for girls is 17 according tohttp://www.law.emory.edu/IFL/legal/tunisia.htm.
References
www.Answering-Islam.org is a very extensive web site presenting and debating many aspects of Islam.
Arberry, A.J. The Koran Interpreted Macmillian Publishing Co. 1955.
Ali, Maulawi Shr. The Holy Quran : Arabic Text and English Translation. Islam International Publications Limited. 1997 (This is published under the auspices of the Ahmadiyya Muslims)
Awde, Nicholas translator and editor. Women in Islam : An Anthology from the Quran and Hadiths. St. Martins Press 2000 (207 pages). He only quotes from Bukhari, and naively assumes that Bukhari contains everything in the others.
Badawi, Jamal, Ph.D. Gender Equity in Islam : Basic Principles. American Trust Publications. 1995.
Caner, Ergun Mehmet. Voices Behind the Veil. Kregel Publications. 2003 (218 pages)
Hasan, Prof. Ahmad. Sunan Abu Dawud : English Translation with Explanatory Notes. Sh. Muhammad Ashraf Publishers, Booksellers & Exporters 1984 (three volumes)
The History of al-Tabari. Ihsan Abbas et al. editorial board. Volumes 1-11. SUNY Press.
The Holy Qur-an : English translation of the meanings and Commentary. Translated by Abdullah Yusuf Ali. Revised and edited by The Presidency of Islamic Researches, IFTA, Call and Guidance. King Fahd Holy Qur-an Printing Complex. (no date)
Khan, Dr. Muhammad Muhsin (translator) The Translation of the Meanings of Sahih Al-Bukhari Arabic-English. Islamic University, Al-Medina Al-Munawwara AL MAKTABAT AL SALAFIAT AL MADINATO AL MONAWART. No date, No copyright.
Malik, Muhammad Farooq-i-Azam. English Translation of the Meaning of AL-QURAN : The Guidance for Mankind. Institute of Islamic Knowledge. 1997.
Sahih Muslim by Imam Muslim. Rendered into English by Abdul Hamid Siddiqi. International Islamic Publishing House. (no date)
Sunan Ibn-i-Majah by Imam Abu Abdullah Muhammad b. Yazid ibn-i-Majah al-Qazwini. Translated by Muhammad Tufail Ansari. Kazi Publications 121-Zutgarnain Chambers, Ganpat Road, Lahore, Pakistan. Worldwide Copyright 1993 Zaki Publications Lahore Pakistan.
Sunan Nasai translated by Muhammad Iqbal Siddiqi. 1994 Kazi Publications.
The NIV Study Bible : New International Version Zondervan Bible Publishers. 1985.
[source - retrieved from http://www.muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm on 9/11/2012]


Item #6

THE SHORT TRUTH ON ISLAM AS TESTIFIED TO BY THE WORLD NEWS:

INTRODUCTION:

Some Members Of Islam Are Out Once More To Engage In Violence, Murder, In Pursuit Of Their Lust For Violence And Hate:

Let’s face it, many members of Islam are out to murder others and to destroy property in their inbreed hate, greed, and love of violence, and in their wrongful calling of others infidels; whereas, they are the real infidels and haters.

Here is a recent item from the world news that proves that many members of this religion founded by a Seventh Century criminal and highwayman and pedophile are haters engaged in violence, murder, etc., in pursuit of their lust for violence and hate under the guise of religion.  

IMPORTANT REALITY AS SHOWN IN A MAGAZINE:
The reality was pointed out in a FrontPage Magazine in an article, Barbarians at the Gate, [source - retrieved from  http://frontpagemag.com/2012/mark-tapson/barbarians-at-the-gate/  on  9/14/2012].  This article said, “…CNN reported that several individuals claimed responsibility for organizing the demonstrations, among them Wesam Abdel-Wareth, the president of Egypt’s conservative Hekma television channel. Mohammed al-Zawahiri – the brother of al Qaeda bigwig Ayman al-Zawahiri – added that “we called for the peaceful protest joined by different Islamic factions including the Islamic Jihad, Hazem Abu Ismael movement.” By “peaceful” he means there was not yet any wholesale slaughter of infidel Americans or any unlucky Copts who might happen to be in the vicinity.
Al-Zawahiri added that “the film portrays the prophet in a very ugly manner, alluding to topics like sex, which is not acceptable.”  Sex, eh? Perhaps he’s referring to his prophet Mohammed’s marriage consummation with a nine-year-old, which would indeed be an ugly – yet truthful – portrayal. No wonder the crowd is upset – unlike a film about Christianity’s Jesus, a film that depicts Islam’s model for the perfect man in an historically accurate manner wouldn’t paint their religion in a very flattering light.
“I just want to say,” al-Zawahiri went on, “how would the Americans feel if films insulting leading Christian figures like the pope or historical figures like Abraham Lincoln were produced?”
The answer is that films insulting Christians and American historical figures are produced almost nonstop in the entertainment biz, and Americans don’t form spit-flecked, bloodthirsty mobs to storm Hollywood studios and threaten Bill Maher with death. Christians and patriotic Americans are routinely insulted in pop culture and most don’t even bother to shoot off an irate email to a TV network. But of course al-Zawahiri wasn’t expecting empathy; these mobs don’t want our respect – they want our submission.”
NOW, Let’s face it, their behavior is both unconscionable and criminal just like the founder of their religion.   Read the excerpt from world news that just proves this point once more.

TODAY, 9/14/2012 ON THEIR LOVE OF VIOLENCE:

[NOTE, Germany was in no way connected to any movie they hated.]
Sudanese storm German embassy, hoist Islamic flag
By Khalid Abdelaziz | Reuters – [source - retrieved from  http://news.yahoo.com/clashes-egypt-over-film-protests-spread-115710576--finance.html  on  9/14/2012]
KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Sudanese demonstrators incensed by a film that insults the Prophet Mohammad broke into the German embassy in Khartoum on Friday and hoisted an Islamic flag, while one person was killed in protests in the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli.
The obscure California-made production had triggered an attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya's eastern city of Benghazi that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans on Tuesday, the anniversary of the Sept 11, 2001 al Qaeda attacks on the United States.
Rallies against the film were also staged on Friday in Egypt, Yemen, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Lebanon, Iran and Iraq.
Protesters clashed with police near the U.S. embassy in Cairo before a nationwide protest called by the Muslim Brotherhood which propelled Egypt's Islamist president Mohamed Mursi to power.
Police in the Sudanese capital fired tear gas to try to disperse 5,000 protesters who had ringed the German embassy and nearby British mission. A Reuters witness said police stood by as a crowd forced its way into Germany's mission.
Demonstrators hoisted a black Islamic flag saying in white letters "there is no God but God and Mohammed is his prophet". They smashed windows, cameras and furniture in the building and then started a fire.
Staff at Germany's embassy were safe "for the moment", Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said in Berlin. He also told Khartoum's envoy to Berlin that Sudan must protect diplomatic missions on its soil.
Witnesses said police fired tear gas at thousands of protesters to stop them approaching the U.S. embassy outside Khartoum.
Sudan's Foreign Ministry had criticized Germany for allowing a protest last month by right-wing activists carrying caricatures of the Prophet and for Chancellor Angela Merkel giving an award in 2010 to a Danish cartoonist who depicted the Prophet in 2005 triggering protests across the Islamic world.
BASHIR UNDER PRESSURE
President Omar Hassan al-Bashir is under pressure from Islamists who feel the government has given up the religious values of his 1989 Islamist coup.
The official body of Sudan's Islamic scholars called for the faithful to defend the Prophet peacefully, but at a meeting of Islamists, some leaders had said they would march on the German and U.S. embassies and demanded the ambassadors be expelled.
"Tomorrow we will all get out to defend Prophet Mohammad ... We will do this peacefully but with strength," Salah el-Din Awad, general secretary of the scholars' body in Khartoum state told reporters after meeting government officials on Thursday.
The Foreign Ministry said in its statement: "The German chancellor unfortunately welcomed this offence to Islam in a clear violation of all meanings of religious co-existence and tolerance between religions."
Sudan used to host prominent militants in the 1990s, such as Osama bin Laden, but the government has sought to distance itself from radicals to improve ties with the West.
A Lebanese security source said the man was killed in Tripoli as protesters tried to storm a government building.
Earlier, a U.S. fast food restaurant was set alight. Twelve members of the security forces were wounded by stones thrown by protesters, the source said.
The protests coincided with Pope Benedict's arrival in Lebanon for a three-day visit.
WASHINGTON'S DILEMMA
Protesters also clashed with police in Yemen, where one person died and 15 were injured on Thursday when the U.S. embassy compound was stormed.
In Nigeria, where radical Islamist sect Boko Haram has killed hundreds this year in an insurgency, the government put police on alert and stepped up security around foreign missions.
U.S. and other Western embassies in other Muslim countries had tightened security, fearing anger at the film may prompt attacks on their compounds after the weekly worship.
The protests present U.S. President Barack Obama with a new foreign policy crisis less than two months before seeking re-election and tests Washington's relations with democratic governments it helped to power across the Arab world.
Obama has vowed to bring those responsible for the Benghazi attack to justice, and the United States sent warships towards Libya which one official said was to give flexibility for any future action.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Washington had nothing to do with the crudely made film posted on the Internet, which she called "disgusting and reprehensible", and the Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff called a Christian pastor in Florida to ask him to withdraw his support for it.
Protesters in Afghanistan set fire to an effigy of Obama and burned a U.S. flag after Friday prayers in the eastern province of Nangarhar.
Directing their anger against the U.S. pastor who supported the film, tribal leaders in province also agreed to put a $100,000 bounty on his head.
About 10,000 people held a noisy protest in the Bangladeshi capital. They burned U.S. flags, chanted anti-U.S. slogans and demanded punishment for the offenders, but were stopped from marching to the U.S. embassy. There was no violence.
Thousands of Iranians held nationwide protests.
(Additional reporting by Mohammed Ghobari in Sanaa, Samia Nakhoul in Beirut, Ulf Laessing and Khalid Abdelaziz in Khartoum, Gareth Jones in Berlin, Suleiman Al-Khalidi in Benghazi, Marie-Louise Gumuchian in Libya, Sami Aboudi in Dubai, Raissa Kasolowsky in Abu Dhabi, Aref Mohammed in Basra, Iraq, Siva Sithraputhran in Kuala Lumpur, Anis Ahmed in Bangladesh, Regan Doherty in Doha, Roberto Landucci in Italy and Mirwais Harooni in Kabul; writing by Philippa Fletcher; editing by Peter Millership)
Other Resources to Check Out Posted on 9/14/2012
*  Article: One killed in Lebanon protest over anti-Islam film, pope
*  Article: One killed, two wounded in north Lebanon protest
*  Article: Sudanese police fire teargas at protesters near U.S. embassy
*  Article: Egypt Islamist preachers say film makers deserve death
*  Article: Germany's Westerwelle condemns "hate video", embassy attack
*  Article: Protesters smash windows, set fires in U.S. embassy in Tunis
* Article:  Blood, Blood, and More Blood, the Story of Islam at http://w11.zetaboards.com/ReligiousTruths/topic/7631102/1/#new  
CONCLUSION:
I believe this article and its references clearly and honestly portray Islam as a dangerous and unconscionable religion.


Item #7

As can be seen from the foregoing, the Prophet Muhammad set a very bad and wicked example and should be tried in absenteeism for being a pedophile as shown by his marrying a child at six years of age and having sexual relations with her at nine years of age.

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