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The 'Epidemic' of Sexual Harassment - and Rape - in Morsi's Egypt
by Raymond Ibrahim
FrontPageMagazine.com
February 15, 2013
http://www.meforum.org/3450/egypt-rape-sexual-harassment
Since the "Arab Spring" came to Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood assumed power, sexual harassment, abuse, and rape of women has skyrocketed. This graph, which shows an enormous jump in sexual harassment beginning around January 2011, when the Tahrir revolts began, certainly demonstrates as much. Its findings are further supported by any number of reports appearing in both Arabic and Western media, and from both Egyptian and foreign women.
Hundreds of Egyptian women recently took to the streets of Tahrir Square to protest the nonstop harassment they must endure whenever they emerge from their homes and onto the streets. They held slogans like "Silence is unacceptable, my anger will be heard," and "A safe square for all; Down with sexual harassment." "Marchers also shouted chants against President Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood group from which he hails," wrote Al Ahram Online.
The response? More sexual harassment and rapes.
One woman recently appeared on Egyptian TV recounting her horrific experiences. On the program, she appeared shaded, to conceal her identity—less because she felt personal shame or guilt at what happened and more to protect her and her family from further abuses. She recounted how she had seen a Facebook notice that Egyptian women were going to protest the unsafe conditions for women on the Egyptian street and decided to join them on their scheduled march in Tahrir Square on January 25, the anniversary of the revolution. "I did not realize I would become the victim," she lamented. When it started to get dark, her group heard that "strange looking men" were appearing and that it was best to leave the area.
During some chaos she was lost from her group. One man told her "this way," pretending to help her to safety—"I was so naïve to believe him!"—only to lead her to a large group of men, she estimated around 50, who proceeded to encircle and rape her. "This was the first time someone touched me" quietly recounted the former virgin: "Each one of them attacked a part of my body." Several pinned her down while others pulled off her pants and stripped her naked, gang-raping her for approximately 20 minutes. She explained how she truly thought she was going to die, and kept screaming "I'm dying!" In response, one of her rapists whispered in her ears: "Don't worry. Take it," even as the rest called her derogatory names she would not recite on the air.
Considering that in late November last year, when many Egyptians, including women, were protesting President Morsi's Sharia-heavy constitution and the Muslim Brotherhood responded by paying gangs and thugs to rape protesting women in the streets, anecdotes like the above are becoming commonplace. Indeed, to appreciate the regularization of sexual harassment and rape in Egypt, consider the words of popular Salafi preacher Abu Islam, who openly, and very sarcastically, blamed the victims:
"They tell you women are a red line. They tell you that naked women—who are going to Tahrir Square because they want to be raped—are a red line! And they ask Mursi and the Brotherhood to leave power!" Abu Islam added that these women activists are going to Tahrir Square not to protest but to be sexually abused because they had wanted to be raped. "They have no shame, no fear and not even feminism. Practice your feminism, sheikha! It is a legitimate right for you to be a woman," he said. "And by the way, 90 percent of them are crusaders [i.e. Christian Copts] and the remaining 10 percent are widows who have no one to control them. You see women talking like monsters," he added.
No doubt some will argue that Abu Islam is just a "radical" who speaks for himself. Yet many more formal bodies made similar observations, including the new Egyptian parliament's Shura Council's "human rights committee," whose members said
that women taking part in protests bear the responsibility of being sexually harassed, describing what happens in some demonstrators' tents as "prostitution." Major General Adel Afify, member of the committee representing the Salafi Asala Party, criticized female protesters, saying that they "know they are among thugs. They should protect themselves before requesting that the Interior Ministry does so. By getting herself involved in such circumstances, the woman has 100 percent responsibility."
These sentiments are widely shared in Egypt. A study by the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights said that 62% of men admitted to harassing women, while 53% blame women for "bringing it on." Nor is this phenomenon limited to Egyptian women: while 83% of Egyptian women have experienced sexual harassment, so have 98% of foreign female visitors.
After describing her own personal experiences with sexual harassment in Egypt, Sarah A. Topol asserts that "Sexual harassment — actually, let's call it what it is: assault — in Egypt is not just common. It's an epidemic. It inhabits every space in this society, from back alleys to the birthplace of the newest chapter of Egyptian history.… For the 18 days of protest last year, for me, Tahrir Square was a harassment-free zone. I noticed it, everyone did. But as soon as President Hosni Mubarak stepped down, the unity ended and the harassment returned."
Journalists Sophia Jones and Erin Banco also elaborated on the epidemic of sexual harassment in Egypt:
It's difficult to write about sexual harassment and assault in Egypt without sounding like Angry White Girls. But as journalists, it is not merely our job to report in such an environment, it is an everyday psychological and sometimes even physical battle. We open our closets in the morning and debate what to wear to lessen the harassment—as if this would help. Even fully veiled women are harassed on Cairo's streets. As one young Cairo-based female reporter recently remarked, "it's a f–ked-up reality that we will be touched."…. Like hundreds of other countries around the world, sexual harassment and assault happens everyday in Egypt. It happens to both Egyptian women, and to foreign women. It happens at all times of the day, despite what some may think, at the hands of men—young boys, grown men, police officers, military officers, and almost everyone in between.
The journalists then offer an all too familiar story:
Nor is this merely limited to sexual harassment, but it often, under the right circumstances—few witnesses, the availability of dark allies—culminates into fullblown gangrape. For example, Natasha Smith a young British journalist covering Tahrir Square, was dragged from her male companion into a frenzied mob in the hundreds. "Men began to rip off my clothes," she wrote on her blog. They "pulled my limbs apart and threw me around. They were scratching and clenching my breasts and forcing their fingers inside me in every possible way … All I could see was leering faces, more and more faces sneering and jeering as I was tossed around like fresh meat among starving lions."
All this is yet another indicator of the true nature of the Obama-supported "Arab Spring."
Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum.
REALITY – THE BIBLE VS. QURAN ON WOMEN’S RIGHTS

Crimes Against Women, the Bible vs. the Quran:

INTRODUCTION:

Under the old law covenant with Israel, God (YHWH) required they live a moral life and viewed the raping of a women as a grave wickedness. Also, immorality was considered a grave immorality. This was clearly highlighted in Deuteronomy 22:18-29, ".And the elders of that city shall take the man and chastise him; 19 and they shall fine him a hundred [shekels] of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. 20 But if this thing be true, that the tokens of virginity were not found in the damsel; 21 then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house: so shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee. 22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die, the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away the evil from Israel. 23 If there be a damsel that is a virgin betrothed unto a husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; 24 then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them to death with stones; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbor's wife: so thou shalt put away the evil from the midst of thee. 25 But if the man find the damsel that is betrothed in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her; then the man only that lay with her shall die: 26 but unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbor, and slayeth him, even so is this matter; 27 for he found her in the field, the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, that is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty [shekels] of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he hath humbled her; he may not put her away all his days." (American Standard Version; ASV). Now note the Hebrew word, 'taphas,' commonly translated 'rape' has a slightly different meaning than the English word 'rape.' Hebrew does not mention the word rape, the word is used only by certain translations. The Hebrew which speaks about seizing, etc, also means manipulation. Hence you cannot strictly argue for rape here, but for any type of sexual manipulation no matter how accomplished.

Of course some Muslims will wrongly claim regarding raping war captives, that the Bible clearly permits raping the captives and point to Deuteronomy 20:10-14 to justify this false claim. Let's look at these verses, "When thou drawest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. 11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that are found therein shall become tributary unto thee, and shall serve thee. 12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it: 13 and when Jehovah thy God delivereth it into thy hand, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: 14 but the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take for a prey unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which Jehovah thy God hath given thee. " (ASV). With this verse they claim that rape was one of the rights of spoils of a victory; which of course it was not. Why? Let's find out.

IS RAPE IMPLIED?

Exactly, where does the passage refer to rape? True it does speak about killing, true it does speak about the spoil, but where does it speak about rape? IN fact there is no where in the Torah where actual rape is legalized with the law-code. In fact, an as an Israelite who is attracted to a captive women, had to allow her time to grief and marry her, before any sexual relationship took place per Deuteronomy 21: 10-14, " When thou goest forth to battle against thine enemies, and Jehovah thy God delivereth them into thy hands, and thou carriest them away captive, 11 and seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and thou hast a desire unto her, and wouldest take her to thee to wife; 12 then thou shalt bring her home to thy house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; 13 and she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thy house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. 14 And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not deal with her as a slave, because thou hast humbled her." (ASV). Probably many women were married away in this manner, perhaps all, but marriage was certainly demanded.

THE BIBLE REQUIRES MATRIMONY BEFORE RELATIONS WITH CAPTIVE:

Islam legalized the raping of slaves without any consideration of marriage, and in fact these women were according to Islamic sources sold on the slave market after the whole event. This is strange as the Quran says at Sura 29:46, "Do not argue with the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) except in the nicest possible manner - unless they transgress - and say, "We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you, and our god and your god is one and the same; to Him we are submitters." (An Authorized English Version, Translated from the original by Dr. Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D.; RK). Which clearly shows that Muslims should deal kindly with Jews and Christians. This is made clear at Sura 10:94, "If you have any doubt regarding what is revealed to you from your Lord, then ask those who read the previous scripture. Indeed, the truth has come to you from your Lord. Do not be with the doubters." (RK).

QURAN DOES NOT REQUIRE MATRIMONY BEFORE RELATIONS WITH CAPTIVE AND CONTRADICTS ITSELF:

Let's look at what the Quran has to say on the subject. First consider Sura 23:5-6, "And they maintain their chastity. [23:6] Only with their spouses, or those who are rightfully theirs, do they have sexual relations; they are not to be blamed." (RK) where the Quran seems to require that one have only sexual relations with his own wife. And this is emphasized Sura 4:24, "Prohibited for you (in marriage) are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, the sisters of your fathers, the sisters of your mothers, the daughters of your brother, the daughters of your sister, your nursing mothers, the girls who nursed from the same woman as you, the mothers of your wives, the daughters of your wives with whom you have consummated the marriage - if the marriage has not been consummated, you may marry the daughter. Also prohibited for you are the women who were married to your genetic sons. Also, you shall not be married to two sisters at the same time - but do not break up existing marriages. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful." (RK).

However, According to Tabari vol.39, p.194 the ruler of Alexandria gave a young Christian girl as a gift to Muhammad, her name was Mariyam. Muhammad never married her but he used to sleep with her, and she even gave birth to a son who died after 18 months..

According to Sahih Bukhari vol.5#637 Ali had sex with a slave girl whom he saw and found beautiful, and Muhammad seemed to have no objections.

Narrated Buraida: The prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (part of the war booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, "Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)? When we reached the prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, "O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Do you hate him for he deserves more than that from the Khumus." (Sahih Bukhari, vol.5, #637)

Now, let's be realistic, what is sex with a slave else but rape, I mean, what choice has she anyway?

MOHAMMAD ON RAPE OF FEMALE CAPTIVES:

According to Sahih Bukhari vol.9#506; Sahih Muslim vol.2#3371 Muhammad's followers used to come to Muhammad after battles, to seek permission and advise to engage in sexual activity with the girls taken in battle. They doubted for several reasons, however, permission was granted.

At one point Muhammad gave them permission and told them that it is up to Allah who gets created anyway, thus permission was given.

Permission from the Quran:

This fact is clearly shown in the Quran at Sura 33:50, "O prophet, we made lawful for you your wives to whom you have paid their due dowry, or what you already have, as granted to you by GOD. Also lawful for you in marriage are the daughters of your father's brothers, the daughters of your father's sisters, the daughters of your mother's brothers, the daughters of your mother's sisters, who have emigrated with you. Also, if a believing woman gave herself to the prophet - by forfeiting the dowry - the prophet may marry her without a dowry, if he so wishes. However, her forfeiting of the dowry applies only to the prophet, and not to the other believers. We have already decreed their rights in regard to their spouses or what they already have. This is to spare you any embarrassment. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful." (RK).

Doubt due to fear of less money for selling pregnant slaves:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's messenger we said, "Oh Allah's messenger, we got female captives as our booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." (Sahih Bukhari, vol.3, # 432) (further reference Bukhari Vol. 3, #718)

About pregnancy:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relations with them without impregnating them. So they asked the prophet about coitus interruptus. The prophet said, "It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection". (Sahih Bukhari, vol.9, #506) (further reference Bukhari 5: 459)

Lust or ransom:

Abu Sirma said to Abu Said al Khudri: "O Abu Said, did you hear Allah's messenger mentioning about al-azl (coitus interrupts)?" He said, "Yes", and added: "We went out with Allah's messenger on the expedition to the Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl" (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: "We are doing an act whereas Allah's messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?" So we asked Allah's messenger and he said: "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born". (Sahih Muslim vol.2, # 3371)

Doubts since their men were polytheists:

Abu Said al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: "And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran - 4:24), (i.e. they were lawful for them when their Idda (menstrual) period came to and end). (Sahih Muslim, vol.2, #3432)

Doubt since their husbands watch them being raped:

Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto your save those (captives) whom your right hand possesses". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period."" [The Quran verse is 4:24]. (Sunan of Abu Dawud, vol.2, #2150)

RECENT EXAMPLE OF MUSLIM MISTREATMENT OF WOMEN:

Some say Islam is a religion of violence and lack of compasion for women, but here is an example of the truth.

"MULTAN, Pakistan - Nazir Ahmed appears calm and unrepentant as he recounts how he slit the throats of his three young daughters and their 25-year old stepsister to salvage his family's "honor" - a crime that shocked Pakistan.

The 40-year old laborer, speaking to The Associated Press in police detention as he was being shifted to prison, confessed to just one regret - that he didn't murder the stepsister's alleged lover too.
Hundreds of girls and women are murdered by male relatives each year in this conservative Islamic nation, and rights groups said Wednesday such "honor killings" will only stop when authorities get serious about punishing perpetrators.
The independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said that in more than half of such cases that make it to court, most end with cash settlements paid by relatives to the victims' families, although under a law passed last year, the minimum penalty is 10 years, the maximum death by hanging.
Ahmed's killing spree - witnessed by his wife Rehmat Bibi as she cradled their 3 month-old baby son - happened Friday night at their home in the cotton-growing village of Gago Mandi in eastern Punjab province.
It is the latest of more than 260 such honor killings documented by the rights commission, mostly from media reports, during the first 11 months of 2005.
Bibi recounted how she was woken by a shriek as Ahmed put his hand to the mouth of his stepdaughter Muqadas and cut her throat with a machete. Bibi looked helplessly on from the corner of the room as he then killed the three girls - Bano, 8, Sumaira, 7, and Humaira, 4 - pausing between the slayings to brandish the bloodstained knife at his wife, warning her not to intervene or raise alarm.
"I was shivering with fear. I did not know how to save my daughters," Bibi, sobbing, told AP by phone from the village. "I begged my husband to spare my daughters but he said, 'If you make a noise, I will kill you.'"
"The whole night the bodies of my daughters lay in front of me," she said.
The next morning, Ahmed was arrested.
Speaking to AP in the back of police pickup truck late Tuesday as he was shifted to a prison in the city of Multan, Ahmed showed no contrition. Appearing disheveled but composed, he said he killed Muqadas because she had committed adultery, and his daughters because he didn't want them to do the same when they grew up.
He said he bought a butcher's knife and a machete after midday prayers on Friday and hid them in the house where he carried out the killings.
"I thought the younger girls would do what their eldest sister had done, so they should be eliminated," he said, his hands cuffed, his face unshaven. "We are poor people and we have nothing else to protect but our honor."
Despite Ahmed's contention that Muqadas had committed adultery - a claim made by her husband - the rights commission reported that according to local people, Muqadas had fled her husband because he had abused her and forced her to work in a brick-making factory.
Police have said they do not know the identity or whereabouts of Muqadas' alleged lover.
Muqadas was Bibi's daughter by her first marriage to Ahmed's brother, who died 14 years ago. Ahmed married his brother's widow, as is customary under Islamic tradition.
"Women are treated as property and those committing crimes against them do not get punished," said the rights commission's director, Kamla Hyat. "The steps taken by our government have made no real difference."
Activists accuse President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, a self-styled moderate Muslim, of reluctance to reform outdated Islamized laws that make it difficult to secure convictions in rape, acid attacks and other cases of violence against women. They say police are often reluctant to prosecute, regarding such crimes as family disputes.
Statistics on honor killings are confused and imprecise, but figures from the rights commission's Web site and its officials show a marked reduction in cases this year: 267 in the first 11 months of 2005, compared with 579 during all of 2004. The Ministry of Women's Development said it had no reliable figures.
Ijaz Elahi, the ministry's joint secretary, said the violence was decreasing and that increasing numbers of victims were reporting incidents to police or the media. Laws, including one passed last year to beef up penalties for honor killings, had been toughened, she said.
Police in Multan said they would complete their investigation into Ahmed's case in the next two weeks and that he faces the death sentence if he is convicted for the killings and terrorizing his neighborhood.
Ahmed, who did not resist arrest, was unrepentant.
"I told the police that I am an honorable father and I slaughtered my dishonored daughter and the three other girls," he said. "I wish that I get a chance to eliminate the boy she ran away with and set his home on fire." [source - Associated Press release]

CONCLUSION:

In Islam you are allowed to have female slaves and you are allowed to have sex with them despite having up to four marriage partners. In a Christian and even Mosaic context that is called rape and adultery.

In Islam you are permitted to have sex with the female captives after a battle, again I ask which age groups? Well Muhammad's youngest wife was nine years old.

But consider the situation here, these women have lost homes, husbands, family, everything (except of course for Sunan of Abu Dawud, there they are raped in the presence of their male captives, and husbands) and now they are exposed to further attrocities that of being raped by the same men who killed and butchered their males, on the same battlefield.

In the Mosaic law things were similar, but there was clear guidance given, that these women in case of sexual relationship should be given a time to grief and then be married before any sexual relationship would take place.

That is not what we see here! Sahih Muslim vol.2, # 3371 clearly revealed that after the mass-rape they would be sold at the slave market as female slaves and then the terror would continue.

Let's face it, the Bible NEVER condoned rape as does the Quran and did Muhammad. It did however encourage a rapist to make matters right with his victim and required the solution to be marriage; whereas, the Quran and Muhammad do/did NOT.
[NOTE: I put this together with the assistance of a scholar on the Quran and Islamic history].

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Egypt's Latest Fatwas from Salafis and Brotherhood

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Egypt's Latest Fatwas from Salafis and Brotherhood

by Raymond Ibrahim
Gatestone Institute
November 27, 2013
http://www.meforum.org/3684/egypt-salafi-fatwas
As the full ramification of the Muslim Brotherhood's year in power continues to be exposed, a new study by Al Azhar's Fatwa Committee dedicated to exploring the fatwas, or Islamic decrees, issued by the Brotherhood and Salafis -- the Islamists -- was recently published.

Al Azhar, in Cairo , is considered by many to be one of the oldest and most prestigious Islamic universities in the world. The study, written by Al Azhar's Dr. Sayed Zayed, and entitled (in translation), "The Misguided Fatwas of the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis," reveals a great deal about how Islamists view women.

The Egyptian newspaper Al Masry Al Youm summarized some of the Al Azhar study's main findings and assertions on November 15 in a article entitled (in translation), "Muslim Brotherhood fatwas: A woman swimming is an 'adulteress' and touching bananas is 'forbidden.'"
According to the report, "fatwas issued by both groups [Brotherhood and Salafis] regard women as strange creatures created solely for sex. They considered the voices of women, their looks and presence outside the walls of their homes an 'offence.' Some went as far as to consider women as a whole 'offensive.'"

The study addressed 51 fatwas issued during the rule of ousted president Mohamed Morsi. Among them, the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis "permitted wives to lie to their husbands concerning politics," if the husband forbids her from being supportive of the Islamists or their agenda; she may then, through taqiyya [dissimulation] -- a Muslim doctrine that permits deceit to empower Islam -- still be supportive of the Islamists while pretending to be against them.
The study similarly revealed that some of these fatwas decreed that women who swim in the sea are committing "adultery" -- even if they wear a hijab: "The reason behind this particular fatwa, from their point of view, is that the sea is masculine [as with many other languages, Arabic nouns are gender specific, and "sea" is masculine], and when the water touches the woman's private parts she becomes an 'adulteress' and should be punished."

Moreover, "Some of these fatwas also forbade women from eating certain vegetables or even touching cucumbers or bananas," due to their phallic imagery, which may tempt women to deviate.

Other fatwas decreed that "it is unacceptable for women to turn the air conditioning on at home during the absence of their husbands as this could be used as a sign to indicate to neighbors that the woman is at home alone and any of them could commit adultery with her."

One fatwa suggested that marriage to ten-year-old girls should be allowed to prevent girls "from deviating from the right path," while another prohibited girls from going to schools located 25 kilometers away from their homes.

Another stated that a marriage is annulled if the husband and wife copulate with no clothes on.

These fatwas also sanctioned the use of women and children as human shields in violent demonstrations and protests, as these are considered jihads to empower Islam.
Even slavery was permitted, according to the study: "the people who issued these fatwas demanded the enactment of a law allowing divorced women to own slaves," presumably to help her, as she no longer has a man to support her.

An earlier report (summarized in English here) listed some other fatwas issued by the Brotherhood and Salafis during Morsi's tenure: advocating for the destruction of the pyramids and sphinx; scrapping the Camp David Accords; killing anyone protesting against ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi (which happened and is one of the main charges against the imprisoned Brotherhood leadership); forbidding Muslims from greeting Christians; forbidding Muslim cab drivers from transporting Christian priests (whose clothing makes them identifiable); forbidding TV shows that mock or make light of Islamists; and forbidding women from marrying any men involved with the former Mubarak government.
Predictably, the Al Azhar study criticizing the Brotherhood and Salafi fatwas concludes by saying that only al Azhar, which styles itself as a moderate institution, is qualified to issue fatwas. Of course, one of the most sensational of all fatwas -- "adult breastfeeding," which called on women to "breastfeed" male acquaintances, thereby making them relatives and justifying their mixed company -- was issued by Al Azhar, but later retracted. It is apparently this retraction that makes Al Azhar seemingly more moderate than the Brotherhood.
Meanwhile, the Salafis -- who, in light of the Brotherhood's ouster have become Islam's standard bearers there -- continue successfully to push for strict interpretations of Sharia law in Egypt 's new constitution.
Raymond Ibrahim, author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam's New War on Christians (Regnery, April, 2013) is a Middle East and Islam specialist, and a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum.
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ISLAM’S REALITIES SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES – SEE REALITY READ ON

Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

2014.02.02 (Mombasa, Kenya) - A police officer is stabbed in the head at a mosque by youth yelling 'Allah Akbar' .

2014.02.01 (Hermel, Lebanon) - An al-Nusra suicide bomber sends three Shiites to Allah.

2014.01.31 (Unguwar Kajit, Nigeria) - Seven members of a Christian family are murdered in their own home by Muslim gunmen.
2014.01.30 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Six al-Qaeda suicide bombers storm a government office building and murder eighteen people.
2014.01.30 (Giza, Egypt) - A policeman is murdered by Ansar Beit Al Maqdis as he leaves his house.
2014.01.30 (Pattani, Thailand) - Muslim radicals kill two people guarding a group of teachers with a homemade bomb. * Sources for individual incidents can be provided upon request. [source - retrieved from http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ on 2/3/2014]

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Muslim Rape Culture
February 3, 2014 by Daniel Greenfield 132 Comments


No one knows the real name of thePort Hills Groper, the Muslim refugee who stalked and attacked over a dozen women jogging in Port Hills, even though he was arrested, tried and sentenced. Instead the New Zealand court gave him “permanent name suppression” to protect his status in his Muslim community.
Judge Jane Farish, who had told a Maori rapist who had lured an Australian tourist into a dark street and beat her while trying to tear off her clothing “If I had my way I would release you today,” let the groper off with community service because his actions were caused by “cultural ambiguities.”
The Muslim groper had blamed his serial assaults on “a misunderstanding of cultural differences” claiming that he had just been trying to be friendly. In his Middle Eastern Muslim culture, friendliness apparently consisted of forcibly groping female joggers while telling them “Happy New Year.”
In neighboring Australia, Muslim cultural misunderstandings have become a big problem for women.
Esmatullah Sharifi, an Afghan refugee, offered an Australian woman a ride home and then put his right hand around her neck and his left hand over her mouth and raped her. Sharifi’s lawyers claimed that due to cultural differences he was confused about the nature of consent.
This wasn’t Sharifi’s first misunderstanding of the difference between rape and sex. He had already been sentenced to 7 years in jail for raping an Australian teenager on Christmas Day in 2008.
The sentencing judge rejected Sharifi’s excuse, but a court of appeals judge found that claiming cultural differences was a valid basis for an appeal.
This wasn’t the first case of Muslim cultural misunderstanding assault in Australia.
Last year, an Egyptian Muslim cleric was arrested for groping women on a beach. The spokesman for the Dee Why Mosque said that by groping a grandmother pushing a stroller and an underage girl, Ahmed Alkahly had been “showing love and compassion but had misunderstood the cultural differences between Australia and Egypt.”
In Muslim Egypt, 99.3% of women and girls have been sexually harassed. What is ordinary behavior in Egyptian Muslim culture is a criminal act in Australia where women are considered to be human beings.
Almahde Ahmad Atagore made his own effort at showing love and compassion by sexually assaulting seven women and girls. The youngest of his victims was only 13 years old. Afterward he laughed.
Atagore’s lawyers blamed cultural differences and Judge Margaret Rizkalla agreed, telling the Libyan Muslim rapist, “It seems you were very ill prepared to deal with cultural differences.”
That was 3 years ago. Atagore will be eligible for parole this year.
In the Ashfield rapes, four Pakistani brothers raped eighteen women and girls. Their father urged that his sons be pardoned because they “did not know the culture of this culture.”
One of the brothers appealed his sentence arguing that he had committed the rapes based on cultural differences with how Pakistani girls behaved. The older brother said in court that only now that he had gained a “better understanding of Australian culture” did he finally realize that rape was wrong.
Explaining why he had raped one girl, he said, “She was not related to us and she was not wearing any Purdah, like she was not… covered her face, she was not wearing any headscarf.”
Purdah refers to the practice of keeping women isolated and locked up at home. The Hijab and the Burka are forms of mobile Purdah; clothing that acts as a symbolic “partition” keeping women “fenced in” even in public.
The father of the rapist brothers said of the victims, “What do they expect to happen to them? Girls from Pakistan don’t go out at night.”
And when enough Pakistanis migrate to their country neither will Australian girls; especially now that at least one of the brothers has already been released.
The cultural differences between the Muslim world and the Western world behind these rape cases were highlighted when Australia’s Grand Mufti, the infamous Sheikh Hilaly, had said, in response to an earlier Muslim gang rape case, that in sexual matters, “it’s 90 per cent the women’s responsibility.”
Quoting al-Rafihi, the Grand Mufti said, “If I came across a rape crime. I would discipline the man and order that the woman be arrested and jailed for life.”
Then the Grand Mufti went on to compare rape victims to uncovered meat. “If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, is it the fault of the cat or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem.”
“If the woman is in her boudoir, in her house and if she’s wearing the veil and if she shows modesty, disasters don’t happen.”
It’s no wonder that Pakistani girls don’t go out at night.
In Muslim culture, women face a choice between Purdah and rape. And now so do women in Western countries who come face to face with Muslim rape culture.
Back in the UK, Muslim cultural differences are also becoming a problem for women and an excuse for multicultural judges.
A Muslim pedophile in Nottingham was given a suspended sentence after he claimed that he had attended a Muslim school where he was taught that women are worthless. Adil Rashid told a psychologist that his Muslim school had taught him that, “Women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground.”
The lollipop is a common teaching tool in Muslim culture. Muslim girls are told that they should wear a Hijab because no one wants an unwrapped lollipop. AnEgyptian ad campaign about sexual harassment contrasted a chastely wrapped lollipop with an uncovered lollipop swarming with flies.
Lollipops may be new, but the idea in Islam is old. The Hijab and the Burka have nothing to do with female modesty or dignity. Not according to the Koran.
“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks all over their bodies that they may thus be distinguished and not molested,” Allah tells Mohammed.
The context of Koran chapter 33 verse 59 is even grimmer if you put it in the context of verse 50 which allowed Mohammed’s army to enslave and rape captured women and the use of the Burka to distinguish between wives and slaves.
Qadri’s Irfan-ul-Quran translation comments on 33:59 that “It is more likely that this way they may be recognized (as pious, free women), and may not be hurt (considered by mistake as roving slave girls.)”
When Mohammed captured Safiyya bint Huyayy, a Jewish teenager, during his campaign of ethnic cleansing against the region’s Jewish population, he told his followers, “Tomorrow if you see her covered with a veil then she is my wife; if you see her without a veil then she is a slave girl.”
That is the cultural difference between the Muslim world and the Western world.
There are no “free women” in Islam. There are women who belong to one man and there are women who belong to all men. There are wives and daughters or women who can be enslaved by any man.
Women can be covered meat or uncovered meat, but they cannot be considered people. When they are raped, the deciding question is whether they were at home or outside, whether they were covered meat or uncovered meat, whether they were acting like good Pakistani girls or bad Western women.
The Taliban aren’t just in Afghanistan and Pakistan anymore, they are everywhere in the West that Pakistani, Afghani and other Muslim migrants settle. Expecting them to respect the rights of Western women is asking them to turn their backs on their culture and religion and that is as likely to happen in Muslim settlements in the UK, France and Australia… as it is in Afghanistan.
The Taliban and their views on women have come to the West. And Western judges are choosing to respect Muslim rape culture over the rights of women.
Freedom Center pamphlets now available on Kindle: Click here. [SOURCE - RETRIEVED FROM http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/muslim-rape-culture/ ON 2/3/2014]

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The Central African Republic and Islam's Push South
Bands of Muslim Seleka extremists still roam the empty streets and abandoned dwellings of Bangui, the capital of the C.A.R., hunting down and killing Christians who were not able to flee. Christians, enraged by Muslim atrocities, are in turn killing many Muslims. This scenario plays into the hands of extremist Islamists who want "holy war" in the C.A.R.
Just as in the past, it was not faith alone that fuelled hostility between the Muslim north Sudan and the Christian south, but gold; and now oil.
Catholic bishops…whose faithful have been persecuted, murdered and driven from their homeland, are left to hope that ultimately the blood of Christian martyrs will demand more resolute action from the Vatican.
When Muslim Seleka rebels of the Central African Republic's [C.A.R.] swept south to seize the capital city, Bangui, and ousted the Christian President Francois Bozize in March, 2013,[1] the event received sparse attention in Western media. What the media still seems unwilling to see is that the Seleka onslaught is unwittingly serving a wider offensive by Muslim extremists to expand the realm of Islam into the African continent's sub-Saharan interior.
Bangui, the capital of a country the size of Texas, has become a ghost town. Almost all of its citizens occupy a nearby airport protected by French troops. Bands of Muslim extremists still roam the empty streets and abandoned dwellings hunting down and killing Christians who were not able to flee. Moreover, small groups of Christians have returned to a few neighborhoods of Bangui to take revenge on isolated Muslim Seleka rebels, who having been cut off from their comrades and were discovered hiding in the ruins of the capital city.
Although journalists may have dismissed events in the C.A.R. as just another example of a familiar pattern of instability in maladjusted former French colonies in Africa, the coup, along with the subsequent horrific mass murders of innocent men, women, and children by the Seleka jihadis, deserves closer scrutiny.
While the C.A.R., a majority Christian country in which Muslims make up only about 15% of the population, is among the poorest states in Africa, the country is replete with diamonds and other precious metals that make it an attractive prize for many of the country's political cliques and neighboring states. Bozize was, in fact, overthrown by his chief rival, the Muslim Michel Djotodia.
To guarantee his success, Djotodia made an alliance with a fearsome force of Muslim extremists. Yet, he soon lost control of his Seleka allies, who then proceeded to perpetrate a mass slaughter of Christians, hacking even babies to death. It was not until ethnic Ubangi Christians had organized their own self-defense "anti-balaka" (anti-sword) units that France sent hundreds of Legionnaires to fill the vacuum left by the disintegrating armed forces of the Central African Republic. Since then, although French, South African, and Chadian forces have restored an uneven and tenuous peace, the sectarian bloodletting after the Seleka seizure of power has driven at least a quarter of a million refugees, both Christian and Muslim, from their homes. While Djotodia was forced to resign on January 10, 2014 by regional leaders at a peace conference hosted by Chad, there is no guarantee that the Seleka extremists will end their raping, pillaging, and murder of Christians once peacekeeping troops depart the C.A.R., although troops from France, Chad, Cameroon, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo remain there in an effort to halt the bloodshed and restore some semblance of stability.
The one bright spot amidst the bloodbath is the joint effort by the Catholic Archbishop of Bangui, Dieudonné Nzapalainga, and the Grand Mufti of Islam in the C.A.R., Oumar Kobine Layama, to end the sectarian violence.
Islamization and Christian Resistance in Sub-Saharan Africa
The seizure of power by the Muslim Seleka, when examined within its historical context, underscores the continued vibrancy of the universal competition in Africa between evangelizing Christianity and militant Islam. Initially, the lightning-fast conquest of the Middle East and North Africa by Arab-Islamic armies in the first decades of Islam was slowed, in part, by topography. Where Saharan and Sahelian sand and brush gave way to Savannah and rainforest, the advance of the all-conquering, camel-mounted, nomadic Arab warriors came to a halt. Moreover, the majority of these sedentary, agricultural, sub-Saharan peoples had been already Christianized. Others were still comfortable with their ancestral religions.
The black African ethnic groups of the Congo (Kinshasa), Southern Sudan, and Central Africa resisted pressures to abandon their faith. Moreover; their resistance was aided as early as the 15th century by the political and spiritual support of the Vatican[2]. Further, many of these peoples were also negatively inclined towards Islam: Muslim slave traders from northern Sudan frequently preyed upon Congolese and Ubangi (Central African) Christians. [3]
The recent appearance on the world stage of Mali as a theater of the Muslim advance is also evidence of a resurgence of that land's historical role in the Islamic proselytizing process. The medieval, metropolitan Malian Muslim mini-states acted as intermediaries between Arabia and points south. The Sharif [Mayor] of Mecca, for instance, dispatched Muslim scholars and imams [preachers] to Mali with orders to build mosques and advance the faith in Africa. [4] Mali-based mullahs also served as intermediaries between Arabia and the peoples of West Africa, notably in Ghana and the Ivory Coast. Moreover, Muslim merchants from the Saharan region linked up with their counterparts in the Malian city of Djenne. Together, they employed the Dyula people as guides to penetrate the rain forests of central Africa.[5] African acolytes of Islam also were commissioned by at least one Baghdad-based, Abbasid Caliph to carry the faith southward into the African interior.
Yet the pressures of conquest and conversion were only the most obvious dimensions of efforts to Islamize sub-Saharan Africa. More subtle lines of influence included the arrival of Muslim merchants in sub-Saharan African townships along the Guinean coast of West Africa. Initially, these traders served as carriers of Islam rather than proselytizers of the Muslim faith. Teachers, preachers, and settlers would arrive later, after pockets of Muslim immigrants had set down roots. Even in the interior, enterprising Muslim merchants found ways to establish new sub-Sahelian trade routes, bartering their wares for central African agricultural produce, including cotton, tobacco, and nuts. However, once these networks had been firmly established, Islamization set in. Islam became the bond of empire where Arab merchant and Muslim mullah worked together to first convert the elites and later the peasants to the faith of Muhammad.[6] Those who embraced Islam were connected to the global network of Muslim scholarship and rewarded with access to Muslim charitable and educational foundations. Many Central African young men were brought to the Islamic cultural capital of the continent, Timbuktu. Others were granted scholarships to attend the most prestigious Muslim academic center of al-Azhar in Cairo, Egypt.[7]
Occasionally, non-religious events helped reinvigorate efforts to convert native peoples to Islam. After the discovery of a route south along the White Nile, for example, the Egyptian ruler Mohammad Ali energized Muslim forces to wage Jihad to incorporate southern Sudan into the already Islamized northern half of the region -- a contest that is still being waged in the Sudan today.[8] Just as in the past, it was not faith alone that fueled the hostility between the Muslim north Sudan and the Christian south, but gold. Of course, the struggle today also is over oil revenues. South Sudan has the oil. Sudan has the port to export the oil.
This renewed impetus to extend Islam into the African interior also spurred a new emphasis on completely Islamizing the value systems of the majority Muslim societies of West and East Africa. This restored enthusiasm was impeded, however, by two major factors. First was the rapid colonization of the African continent by European imperial rivals. Second was the reality that the Vatican-led medieval Christianization of central and southern Africa developed sound foundations.[9]
The religious struggle for the continent continues, and the competition for converts and the war for spiritual hegemony are brutally apparent in many African countries. The divide is most keenly felt in those states that are most evenly split between Islam and Christianity.[10] Pope Francis has already placed evangelization at the top of his list to renew the face of the Catholic Church. He has made it clear in his sermons and in a recently released 85-page "Exhortation" that he expects the clergy to serve his primary goal of propagation of the faith. They must do this not by preaching alone, but by Catholic action in the service of the poor and oppressed.[11] His African bishops will presumably aggressively press the preaching of the Gospels. They will do so despite fierce opposition by Muslim extremists. The blood of Catholic and other Christian martyrs in Africa already flows freely.
As evidence of the Pope's commitment to the propagation of the faith in Africa, he has just named new cardinals to the African countries of Burkina Faso and the Ivory Coast[12] The emphasis Francis has placed on evangelization, particularly among the impoverished peoples of the Third World, is likely to bring the Catholic Church into a bruising encounter with Islam's own proselytizing efforts. Certainly, jihadi extremists will view the Pope's call for evangelization as a direct challenge.
The Pope's reiteration of the Vatican's long-standing demand for the Muslim world's acceptance of the principle of reciprocity -- equal religious rights and freedom of conscience -- is encouraging. He writes, "I ask and I humbly entreat those countries to grant Christians freedom to worship and to practice their faith, in light of the freedom which followers of Islam enjoy in Western countries."[13] However, his condemnation of Muslim acts of intolerance is more ambiguous. In the Exhortation Evangelii Gaudium, he seems firmly to condemn the excesses of Muslim fundamentalism. He writes that we are "faced with disconcerting instances of violent fundamentalism." [14] He warns, however, in the same sentence that, "we must avoid condemnatory generalizations."[15] He then overcompensates by stating that in an "authentic Islam and a proper reading of the Koran, one will see no justification for violence in Islam." This ambiguity, deliberate or not, appears to indicate that Pope Francis is not ready forcefully to take on Islamic extremism. Catholic bishops, however, in the countries of the Middle East, Africa and Southeast Asia, whose faithful have been persecuted, murdered, and driven from their homelands, are left to hope that ultimately the blood of Christian martyrs will demand more resolute action from the Vatican.
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[1] Terrorism Monitor Volume XI, Issue 7, April 4, 2013. Jamestown Foundation, Washington D.C. Seleka rebels entered the capital Bangui on 24 March.
[2] Christianity, The Papacy and Mission in Africa by Richard Gray. Orbis Books, Maryknoll, N.Y. 2012. pp. 5-7. The rise of Ottoman power made it imperative for Western Europe to find a trans-Atlantic alternative route, as the Mediterranean was controlled by the Turkish navy. Moreover, the entreaties of Christian Ethiopia and Christians in central Africa, all of whom were under Muslim pressure, combined to convince the Vatican to take a more resolute stance to protect the faithful against the Islamic advance.
[3] Ibid. pp. 16 and 91-92. The Vatican's condemnation of the institution of the slave trade and slavery was, in large part, initially elicited by Congolese converts to Catholic Christianity. Even Christians who had been sold into slavery and brought to the "new world" complained to Rome. This was particularly the case by Congolese Catholics who had been sent to Brazil to work on plantations.
[4] The Malian Muslim state of Soghay's ruler Askiya Ismail was invested with the insignia that his father had received in Cairo from the Baghdad-based Abbasid dynasty's caliph. This insignia consisted of a green gown and cape as well as a white turban and an Arabian sword. The symbolism attached to these gifts of investiture were signified the connection to the Prophet Muhammad. The Oxford History of Islam by John Esposito, Oxford University Press: Oxford, U.K., 1999. p. 483.
[5] Ibid. p.486.
[6] A History of Islamic Societies by Ira M. Lapidus. Cambridge University Press: Cambridge, UK. 2002. p.404.
[7] The Historical Atlas of Islam by Freeman-Grenville and Munro-Hay. Continuum Publications: London. 2002. p.288.
[8] Ibid. p.289.
[9] A History of Islamic Societies by Ira M. Lapidus. Cambridge University Press: Cambridge, U.K., 2002. p.738.
[10] These include the countries of Nigeria, Kenya, and Ethiopia. This divide was the principal reason for the recent secession of Christian South Sudan from the Islamic Republic of Sudan. Other states that may soon experience increased religious tensions are Burkina Faso, Cameroon, and the Ivory Coast. Their populations are similarly approximately equal along the Christian-Islamic divide.
[11] Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of the Gospel) November 26 2013. Vatican City.
[12] New York Times, January 13, 2014 "Francis Looks to the Developing World in Naming New Cardinals."
[13] Evangelii Gaudium. Chapter Four "The Social Dimension of Evangelization", Section IV "Social Dialogue in a Context of Religious Freedom." Paragraph 252.
[14] Ibid. Paragraph 253.
[15] Ibid. Paragraph 253.
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Does Islam Allow Muslims to Rape Female Captives and Slave Girls?


Critics of Islam and Sharia frequently claim that the Qur’anallows Muslim men to rape their female captives and slave girls (i.e. those "whom their right hands possess"). Westernized Muslims, however, are appalled at the thought of their religion allowing rape, so they insist that Islam prohibits this practice. Unfortunately, Islam isn't defined by Westernized Muslims; it's defined by Allah and Muhammadin the Qur'an and the Hadith. So instead of inventing a religion based on the feelings of Westernized Muslims and calling it "Islam," let's turn to the Qur'an and the Hadith to see what Allah and Muhammad have to say about this issue.

As Muhammad's armies raided town after town, they captured many women, who would often be sold or traded. Yet, since the Muslim men were a long way from their wives, they needed wisdom from Allah to guide them in their treatment of their female captives. Allah revealed:
Qur’an 23:1-6—The Believers must (eventually) win through—those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess—for (in their case) they are free from blame.

Qur’an 70:22-30—Not so those devoted to Prayer—those who remain steadfast to their prayer; and those in whose wealth is a recognized right for the (needy) who asks and him who is prevented (for some reason from asking); and those who hold to the truth of the Day Of Judgement; and those who fear the displeasure of their Lord—for their Lord’s displeasure is the opposite of Peace and Tranquility—and those who guard their chastity, except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess—for (then) they are not to be blamed.

Notice that Allah commands Muslims to abstain from sex, except with their wives and with "those whom their right hands possess." Allah gave the same sexual rights to Muhammad:
Qur’an 33:50—O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war ...

The Muslim practice of having sex with captured women is reported often in the Hadith, where we learn that Muhammad's only objection to sex with captives was his condemnation of birth control.
Sahih Muslim 3371—We went out with Allah’s Messenger on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Messenger, and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

Sahih al-Bukhari 4138—We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the invasion of Bun Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus [same as "azl" above]. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said: "How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us? We asked (him) about it and he said: "It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it will exist."

Sahih Muslim 3384—Jabir bin Abdullah reported that a person asked Allah’s Apostle saying: I have a slave-girl and I practice azl with her, whereupon Allah’s Messenger said: This cannot prevent that which Allah has decreed. The person then came (after some time) and said: Messenger of Allah, the slave-girl about whom I talked to you has conceived, whereupon Allah’s Messenger said: I am the servant of Allah and His Messenger.

Clearly, Muslims were taking full advantage of Muhammad's teachings about female captives and slave girls. Nevertheless, Muslims eventually captured women along with their husbands, so they wondered if Allah would allow them to have sex with these married captives (since adultery is otherwise forbidden in Islam).

Allah gives his answer in the Qur'an:
Qur’an 4:24—Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess ...

Here's the historical background for this verse:
Sunan Abu Dawud 2150—The Apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.

Thus, the Qur’an allows men to have sex with their female captives and slave girls, and the Hadith provides numerous examples of how this was practiced. Yet we must follow this fact through to its logical conclusion. Muslims decided to have sex with their captives, whom they were later going to sell. Some of these captives were women whose husbands and families had been slaughtered by Muslims. Others had husbands who had been captured by Muslims. Would these women gladly consent to sexual intercourse with men who had killed their families or taken their families captive, and who were simply going to sell them into slavery when they arrived at the next town? Certainly not. But since the Qur’an and Muhammad authorized sex with these women (and said nothing about seeking their permission), we can only conclude that Muhammad allowed his followers to rape their captives. [source - retrieved from http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2014/02/does-islam-allow-muslims-to-rape-female.html on 2/ 3 /2014]

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Pedophiles Acts and Abuse Of Women Okay In Islam – None Ever Thrown Out Of Islam For Pedophile Marriages

INTRODUCTION:

The prophet of Islam, Muhammad, was a pedophile who married a girl of only six (6) six years of age and consummated it at nine (9) years of age.

Here is what encyclopedia said, “She was the daughter, her name was Aisha bint Abi Bakr, of Muhammad's best friend and head evangelist Abu Bakr. Muhammad selected the six-year-old Aisha in preference to her teenaged sister, and she remained his favourite wife. She contributed a major body of information to Islamic law and history. The paedophilic aspect of this relationship has institutionalised such marriages within Islam.. Contracted May 620 but first consummated in April or May 623. [source - retrieved from http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Muhammads_Wives_and_Concubines on 3/3/2014]

Also, he was a vial polygamist who had up to eleven wives at one time.

Now let’s look at the present day practice within Islam.

PRESENT DAY PEDOPHILE PRACTICE WITHIN ISLAM AS REVEALED IN THE NEWS:

Multiculturalism's Child Brides
by Mark Durie
Quadrant Online
February 26, 2014

http://www.meforum.org/3775/child-brides

Recent reports of under-age marriages in Australia are evidence that the authorities need to do more to enforce marriage laws in Western nations, and in particular to restrict the practice of unregistered 'clandestine' religious marriages, particularly Islamic pedophile marriages.

Two cases recently came to public attention of NSW girls being married to older men in unregistered religious ceremonies, allegedly with the approval of their guardians. The first case was of a 14-year-old girl who reported she was deceived into marrying a 21-year-old. After being subjected to years of sexual and physical abuse she fled the relationship. Her case came to light in October, 2013, when she needed to pursue custody of her daughter through the courts.

The second case was of a 12-year-old married to a 26-year-old overseas student by her father, an Australian-born convert to Islam. Imam Riaz Tasawar, who allegedly conducted the ceremony, has been charged by the police, which is remarkably the first prosecution in NSW for at least 20 years of someone for solemnizing a marriage without being an authorized marriage celebrant. The father has also been charged with procuring his daughter for sexual intercourse and being an accessory to a sexual offence against a child.

The Daily Telegraph has reported an 'epidemic' of young girls becoming 'child brides' or being in de facto relationships in NSW. The state Community Services Minister, Pru Goward, commented "I understand there are actually a significant number of unlawful, unregistered marriages to under-aged girls in NSW, particularly in western Sydney, southwest Sydney and the Blue Mountains."
The Australian Marriage Act 1961 (paragraph 101) makes it a crime for anyone to conduct a marriage without being authorized by the state. It is also an offense for an authorized celebrant to conduct a marriage without receiving proper notice of intention, ensuring on the basis of the information provided that the parties are eligible to be married, and registering the marriage with the state.
It is crystal clear from the legal history of marriage's evolution in the West that the reason for public registration of marriages was to protect vulnerable women — and their children — from predatory and dishonest men. As Sir Roger Ormrod stated in Collett vs. Collett [1968]), "The control of the formation of marriage in this country has a long statutory history, much of it intended to prevent clandestine marriages:" marriage laws were designed to to guarantee that marriages, through public registration, met minimum legal requirements in order to prevent abuses against women.

The public registration of marriages was first introduced in Western jurisdictions through canon (i.e. church) law: the Council of Trent ruled in the 16th century that a wedding must be preceded by public notices read out in church services; there had to be at least two witnesses; and an official wedding register had to be maintained. These provisions were justified on the grounds that 'clandestine' (unregistered) marriages put women at risk of exploitation.
In England registration of marriages was enforced by the state in the Marriage Act of 1753, which was formally titled "An Act for the better preventing of clandestine Marriages". The whole focus on this law was the prevention of private marriages – which had become a scandal in England – and again the reason given was the protection of women. Severe penalties were provided for clergy who solemnized illegal marriages.

In the light of the history of marriage laws, it is hardly surprising that one result of neglect in enforcing them would be a rise in exploitative, abusive relationships which disadvantage women, including forced and underage marriages. The Australian Islamic underage marriages which have attracted so much recent attention are but the tip of the iceberg of unregistered religious marriages across Western jurisdictions.

The practice of conducting unregistered religious ceremonies has become so widespread that in some cases those who solemnize or are a party to illegal religious marriages may not even be aware that they are committing an offence. When a former Muslim told me recently about his unregistered marriage in Australia, entered in to while he was still following Islam, he was shocked to learn that the marriage had most likely been illegal.

The proliferation of unregistered religious marriages in recent years is a sign that the Australian authorities need to do much more to enforce the provisions of the Australian Marriage Act.

In the wake of the recent cases, it was to the credit of the Australian National Imams Council that it was outspoken in rejecting underage marriages. However the Imams should also have spoken out against unregistered marriages, because it is a culture of unregistered unions which is placing Australian women and girls at risk of exploitation through forced and underage marriages. The whole point of registration has always been to help prevent such abuses.

The Imams Council also stated that 'any religion … should not be held accountable for violations by its followers.' It could be objected that many Islamic authorities have argued that the marriage of young girls is permissible in Islam [[Of course since their Prophet, Muhammad, was himself a pedophile who married a six (6) year old girl and compensated at nine (9) years old]]. However this is beside the point: for the authorities it ought to be irrelevant whether a particular religion's teachings condones the marriage of young girls or forced marriages: the point is that these practices should not be tolerated in Australia, irrespective of what particular religions may or may not teach.

It is not just Muslims who are engaging in unregistered marriages in Western jurisdictions. The unregistered polygamous marriages of some Mormon sects present serious challenges for the authorities in the United States; Melbourne academic Sheila Jeffries in Man's Dominion has criticized a growing polygamous trend on the fringes of American protestant Christianity; and UK courts have also had to deal with the issue of unregistered Hindu marriages.

In the UK Muslim leaders have become concerned about the trend for Islamic unions not to be registered, because of the impact this has upon women. According to muslimmarriagecontract.org, a project of the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain, "it is clear that many thousands of [Muslim] couples, for one reason or another … are only in what is locally known as a nikah – a marriage that is not accompanied by a civil marriage and is therefore not recognized by the law in Britain. It is equally clear that this lack of proper legal status often results in problems for the couple and suffering, especially for the woman…" The site contrasts the situation in the UK with Canada, where Muslims 'almost always' register their marriages with the state.


The UK has badly mismanaged the issue of non-Christian religious marriages for decades. Although it is a felony in England to solemnize a marriage without meeting the requirements of the Marriage Act of 1949, Islamic marriages have proved to be beyond the reach of the law. In a key legal decision from the 1960's (R v Bham), a court of appeal ruled that a Mr Bham, who solemnized an unregistered Islamic marriage with a Christian woman, was not in violation of the English Marriage Act because the ceremony was not "a marriage of the kind allowed by English law" (see here): in effect the court found that because the union was not a Christian one, or purporting to be like a Christian marriage, it was not actually a 'marriage' at all, which had the effect that its solemnization was not regulated by the state.

A series of English rulings have reinforced this approach (see the review here). For example in Gandhi vs Patel [2002] Judge Park decided that a
"Hindu ceremony did not give rise to a 'void marriage'. Rather it created something which was not a marriage of any kind at all, not even a marriage which was void. It might be described as a 'non-marriage' rather than a void marriage. … In the present case the Hindu ceremony … purported to be a marriage according to a foreign religion, and it made no attempt to be an English marriage within the Marriage Acts."

In a similar vein, in AAA v Ash [2010] it was accepted by the court that an Islamic marriage held in a mosque was a non-marriage in English law: English law distinguishes between a valid marriage and a 'void' marriage – both of which are regulated by the marriage laws – and 'non-marriages' which fall outside the scope of the law.

Such legal decisions were only possible because English marriage laws are constructed around the marriage ceremonial of the Church of England and its Christian understanding of marriage. The outcome is that in the UK today Christian marriages are far more rigorously controlled by the state than Islamic marriages.

In A-M vs A-M [2001] Judge Hughes commented that if the parties to a religious marriage were all fully aware that it was polygamous, then this could mean that "it in no sense purported to be effected according to the Marriage Acts, which provide for the only way of marrying in England." In other words, solemnizing a religious polygamous union in the UK would not be in breach of the marriage laws if the parties all understood that the union was not a legal marriage as defined by English law! This strays a long way indeed from the intended purpose of the marriage laws.

To treat Christian and non-Christian marriages differently disrespects non-Christian religions because their unions are considered 'non-marriages,' and not even 'void' marriages. More importantly, it puts the women who enter such unions at risk because the failure of the state to regulate their marriages makes them vulnerable to the very abuses which the centuries-old marriage laws were meant to to prevent.

It was the Islamic character of the ceremony which proved critical in the appeal's court decision in R v Bham that no 'marriage' had taken place, and thus there had been no felony of conducting an unauthorized solemnization of a marriage. Such legal decisions have been detrimental to the state of marriage in England. By declaring certain religious marriages to be beyond the regulatory power of the marriage laws, they have validated the proliferation of unregistered religious ceremonies. This has helped foster a culture of non-registration of (non-Christian) religious marriages which, through the privacy of such unions, can serve to conceal and validate abuses such as underage marriages and polygamous unions.

It remains to be seen what the outcome will be in the prosecution of Imam Riaz Tasawar in New South Wales. Will the union in question prove to be a 'void' marriage and thus against the law, or a 'non-marriage' and thus outside the scope of the law? A crucial difference is that, in contrast to the English situation, Australian marriage laws are not tied to the concept of a state church or any particular religion, so there is a much sounder basis for prosecution than there would be in the UK. In any case against Imam Riaz Tasawar will be an important test of Australia's apparently neglected marriage laws.
The central place of the established Church of England in the English Marriage Act of 1949 has attracted a good deal of recent attention in the deliberations of the English Parliament over revising marriage laws to allow same-sex unions. The debate has focussed on the tension between parliament's intention to change the marriage laws on the one hand, and the Church's rejection of same-sex unions on the other. A pressing question for the UK is whether the interests of vulnerable women and children would be better served by decoupling English marriage laws from a particular religion altogether, so that all religious marriage ceremonies can be placed on an equal footing under the one law, and Islamic marriages in particular can be regulated to the same extent as Christian or secular marriages.

If this were to happen, a key issue would be what constitutes a marriage. The comment of a 1973 Law Commission report on marriage laws in England and Wales is no less relevant today: "Unfortunately, the Act gives little indication of what are the minimum requirements of a form known to and recognised by our law … as capable of producing … a valid marriage."

Since the ceremonies of the Church of England can no longer be taken to be the yardstick by which a 'valid marriage' is defined – a situation which has become even clearer with the extension of marriage in England and Wales to same-sex couples – it should become a matter of some urgency for UK legislators to construct an agreed definition of marriage which will encompass non-Christian religious unions, so as to ensure there is equal protection afforded by the marriage laws to women in non-Christian marriages, and to allow the prosecution of those who conduct unregistered religious ceremonies.

There has been a great deal of debate in Western states about the function and purpose of marriage in recent years, much of it around same-sex unions. What is often forgotten is that the public registration of marriages, developed over centuries, was always intended as a device to prevent men from abusing women – and their dependent children – through poorly documented relationships. The recent rise in forced and underage religious marriages in Australia, and in other Western jurisdictions, underscores the need for greater vigilance on the part of the authorities to uphold and strengthen marriage laws. We can all learn a lesson from the shambolic failure of UK marriage laws to provide reasonable protection for women in non-Christian religious marriages.

It is concerning that in NSW no-one has been prosecuted for conducting an unregistered marriage in at least 20 years. It is equally troubling that despite the intense efforts devoted to extending marriage to same-sex couples in the UK, nothing has been done to bring non-Christian religious marriages under the scope of the marriage laws. This is despite the fact that the reasons for the state to enforce marriage laws through a transparent system of public registration by properly authorized celebrants are no less valid today than they were in centuries past. Not to do so is a failure of compassion. Why should women in Islamic marriages be treated as second class citizens, with fewer rights before the law than women in Christian or secular non-religious marriages?
Mark Durie is a theologian, human rights activist, Anglican pastor, a Shillman-Ginsburg Writing Fellow at the Middle East Forum, and Adjunct Research Fellow of the Centre for the Study of Islam and Other Faiths at Melbourne School of Theology.

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CONCLUSION:

First, The world we live in is ruled by the wicked one as testified to by 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV). If we pick up a newspaper in any country, we find reports of cruelty and violence on an unprecedented scale. Man’s inhumanity to man is troubling for a righteous person to contemplate as testified to at Ecclesiastes 8:9, “All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.” (AV).

Second, Most individuals and/or groups seek to avoid responsibility for their own actions rather than take corrective actions. This also applies to so called religious groups that seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for the wrong actions of members, but fail, willingly, to take action against these wrong doers by purging themselves of these wicked ones.

If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.

Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.

Now let’s look at one such religion that tries to escape their responsibility for cleaning house so to speak.

Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing such as pedophile acts and terrorism, and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions upon themselves. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. And as previously stated, ‘Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.’

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Sequel to - Pedophiles Acts and Abuse Of Women Okay In Islam – None Ever Thrown Out Of Islam For Pedophile Marriages

INTRODUCTION:

The prophet of Islam, Muhammad, was a pedophile who married a girl of only six (6) six years of age and consummated it at nine (9) years of age.

Here is what encyclopedia said, “She was the daughter, her name was Aisha bint Abi Bakr, of Muhammad's best friend and head evangelist Abu Bakr. Muhammad selected the six-year-old Aisha in preference to her teenaged sister, and she remained his favourite wife. She contributed a major body of information to Islamic law and history. The paedophilic aspect of this relationship has institutionalised such marriages within Islam.. Contracted May 620 but first consummated in April or May 623. [source - retrieved from http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Muhammads_Wives_and_Concubines on 3/3/2014]

Also, he was a vial polygamist who had up to eleven wives at one time.

Now let’s look at the present day practice within Islam.

PRESENT DAY PEDOPHILE PRACTICE WITHIN ISLAM AS REVEALED IN THE NEWS:

The Rising Sex Traffic in Forced Islamic Marriage
by Mark Durie
Quadrant Online
March 2014

http://www.meforum.org/3780/sex-traffic-forced-islamic-marriage

In 2008, the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, and Nicholas Phillips, Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, both suggested that the UK could consider, in Lord Phillips's words, "embracing Sharia law" because "there is no reason why Sharia Law, or any other religious code should not be the basis for mediation or other forms of alternative dispute resolution". Williams commented: "it's not as if we're bringing in an alien and rival system".
However, two recent widely reported cases of marriage between Muslim men and under-age girls raise troubling questions about these assumptions. One case in New South Wales where an imam married a twelve-year-old girl to a twenty-six-year-old man with her father's consent is before the court.
In another case involving a custody battle, however, a judgment has been made that questions the way Western jurisdictions interact with sharia marriage regulations, specifically in relation to the widespread practice of conducting private, unregistered religious marriages. A Sydney Muslim girl aged fourteen was forced by her parents to become the child "bride" of a twenty-one-year-old man. Her mother had told her she would "get to attend theme parks and movies and eat lollies and ice-cream with her new husband". Instead she endured years of sexual and physical abuse and intimidation before fleeing with her young daughter. Her story only saw the light of day ten years after her wedding when she pursued custody of her daughter through the courts.
This "marriage" was never registered with the state: it would have been impossible to do so because the girl was too young to marry under Australian law. A particularly troubling aspect of her story is that she reported her predicament to her school teacher, who under Australian law was a mandatory reporter of child sex abuse, but it seems no report was made, and no intervention attempted.
In passing judgment in favour of the woman, Judge Harman invited the authorities to take matters further: the "groom" could be presumably be charged by the police with sexual offences against a child and placed on the sex offenders register. He and the girl's father—who in accordance with Islamic tradition would have been the two parties to the marriage contract—could also be charged with trafficking offences. There would also almost certainly have been an exchange of money—the mahr—handed over by the man to the girl or her father in accordance with Islamic law.
The UN Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons, Especially Women and Children, defines people-trafficking as:
the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force, or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation. Exploitation shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, [or] servitude … The consent of a victim of trafficking in persons to the intended exploitation set forth [above] shall be irrelevant where any of the means set forth [above] have been used.
The forced marriage of a fourteen-year-old girl, as reported in this Australian case, fits the definition of trafficking. The girl was transferred from the custody of parents to that of her "husband" by use of deception, and he then kept her for the purpose of sexual exploitation and servitude, controlling her by violence and threats.
Pru Goward, the New South Wales Minister for Community Services and Women, has reported that there are around a thousand cases a year across Australia of women and girls being trafficked into forced marriages. She stated, "No ethnic group has a monopoly on violence against women, but some groups experience violence against women disproportionately." Indeed. Some groups also perpetrate violence against women "disproportionately", and it might be more accurate to speak of "religious groups" rather than "ethnic groups". While there have been no official statistics reported on the religious affiliation of these victims of trafficking, it seems that a great many of the victims and the perpetrators involving in "marriage" trafficking have been Muslims.
Recent reports of a link between trafficking-for-marriage and Islamic marriages have not been limited to Australia. Aninvestigation by ITV in the UK identified eighteen mosques—around one third of those approached by the reporter—where clerics were willing to conduct a wedding of a fourteen-year-old girl against her will.
Nazir Afal, Crown Prosecutor in the North of England, has reported that there are estimated to be 8000 to 10,000 forced marriages or threats of forced marriages of people against their will in the UK each year. Britain's Forced Marriage Unithandled 1485 cases in 2012, 35 per cent of which involved girls aged seventeen or younger, and 13 per cent where the girls were under fifteen. A British government survey found that hundreds of girls aged eleven to thirteen had simply disappeared from school rolls.
Governments have been very slow to tackle the trafficking of women and girls for the purpose of forced marriage. Kaye Quek, in a recent article in the British Journal of Politics and International Relations, argues that multicultural ideals prevalent in UK society have made the authorities reluctant to criminalise this practice: they have preferred instead to treat these liaisons as violations of the women's choice. Quek challenges the government's preference for seeking civil remedies to forced marriages, and suggests that this is giving rise to a two-tier system of rights, in which it is acceptable for Muslim women to be sexually assaulted through forced marriage.
In the case of forced Muslim marriages, a systemic problem is the widespread acceptance by the community of unregistered marriages: it is the lack of registration of such unions which makes marriage all the more dangerous for young women and girls, because registered marriages are subject to long-established age limits and procedures to establish consent, which provide a degree of protection to potential victims of marriage trafficking. The families and communities involved may consider such marriages to be legal, because they accord with their understanding of Islamic law, but the fact that these marriages are unregistered places the women and girls who undergo these ceremonies at higher risk of abuse.
Islamic marriage practices present multiple challenges to Western jurisdictions. The Koran states that men are the protectors of women (Sura 4:34). A marriage is normally a contract between two men: the male wali or guardian of the bride—usually her father—and the groom. In addition, to be lawful under sharia, a marriage must have two witnesses, and a sum of money, the mahr, must be given over by the groom. Marriage, thus contracted, is the transfer of a woman from the "protection" of one man to another.
If the wali is the woman's father or grand¬father, he is considered to be a wali mujbir, literally a "forcing guardian", because he is permitted by Islamic law to force his daughter or grand-daughter into marriage. The word mujbir("forcing") comes from an Arabic root which can mean "to set a broken bone", or, by extension, "to force". E.W. Lane,citing Arabic authorities, gives this explanation of the meaning of the word: "He compelled him, against his will, to do the thing … originally signifying the inciting, urging or inducing, another to restore a thing to a sound, right, or good, state." By this understanding, a forced marriage is an exercise of "therapeutic force", which is considered to be good for the woman. Like setting a broken bone, a forced marriage at a father or grandfather's behest "restores" the woman to her rightful state.
The Reliance of the Traveller, a manual of Sunni Islamic law from the Shafi'i school, states:
Guardians are of two types, those who may compel their female charges to marry someone, and those who may not. The only guardians who may compel their charge to marry are a virgin bride's father or father's father, compel meaning to marry her to a suitable match without her consent … Whenever the bride is a virgin, the father or father's father may marry her to someone without her permission, though it is recommended to ask her permission if she has reached puberty. A virgin's silence is considered as permission.
Note that The Reliance anticipates a context where a girl may be married off by her father before she reaches puberty; in this case it is not even recommended to ask her permission. In addition to fathers being permitted to force their virgin daughters into marriage against their will, Islamic law also permits polygamy and marriages of young girls, following the example of Muhammad, who consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was aged nine lunar years. (See Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234).
In several other respects Islamic laws which regulate marriage, divorce and the custody of children render women vulnerable to abuse by their husbands and families.
Many Muslim states have enacted laws which limit the application of Islamic family law, for example by extending women's custody rights beyond those granted by the religion, requiring that a man seek permission from his current wife or wives before contracting further marriages, or limiting a husband's right to divorce his wife merely by a private pronouncement against her.
Because many features of Islam's marriage laws are incompatible with internationally accepted human rights standards, and some Muslim communities consider that Islamic law takes precedence over the law of the land in which they live, it is in the best interests of Muslim women living in the West if governments suppress unregistered religious marriages, and strictly regulate the conduct of Islamic marriages. All too often governments have legitimised and even rewarded unregisterable marriages through additional state benefits.
The phenomenon—and challenge—of unregistered Muslim marriages is by no means limited to Western states. The emergence of unregistered marriages as a social issue in the West is paralleled by the popularity of various kinds of marriage in the Middle East which evade the control of the state (see Consuming Desires by Frances Hasso). Although some Islamic countries require marriages to be registered with the state, many marriages go unregistered. For example, marriages known as nikah ufr ("customary marriages") have become popular among young Egyptian students who choose to live together as couples without the legal and social complications of a registered, public marriage. In Egypt a nikah ufr is in effect a clandestine religious ceremony, which normally takes place without the knowledge or consent of the bride's guardian, and without the husband having to pay a dowry. By this means a couple can protect themselves legally and religiously, for example against a serious charge of fornication, but not without risk to the woman. If the marriage contract is lost or destroyed, a woman may not be able to prove that the marriage has taken place, and if she becomes pregnant she may have no legal means of compelling her partner to support her and her child. A woman in an urfi marriage may also find it difficult to obtain a divorce, leading to the possibility that if she contracts a later marriage with another man, she could be convicted of polyandry or adultery, which are criminal offences in Egypt. In contrast, the man can marry again without risk, even if his urfi marriage is of unclear legal status, because Islam permits polygamy.
One of the challenges of the way sharia works in Islamic states is that the trend over recent decades has been to reinforce the principle that Islamic law takes precedence over state jurisprudence. In some cases national constitutions enshrine sharia law as above the constitution and the power of the state of legislate. For example, article three of the Afghan constitution states that "no law can be contrary to the beliefs and provisions of the sacred religion of Islam". This means that although a state may pass laws to regulate marriage, courts may not be able to declare unregistered Islamic marriages invalid, because official registration is not one of the recognised conditions in Islam for a marriage to be legitimate, and state law has no authority to overrule Islamic law. While states can discourage unregistered marriages in various ways—for example by denying certain kinds of legal privileges to unregistered couples—they are not able to deny the religious and hence social legitimacy of these contracts in a nation whose constitution grants sharia law precedence over laws made by the state, which Islamists call "man-made" laws.
A further difficulty with the ascendancy of sharia law in Islamic states is the complication of legal uncertainty, because issues in Islamic law are often subject to conflicting interpretations. For example, while the Hanafi school of jurisprudence states that a woman can marry without the approval of her guardian, subject to certain conditions, other Sunni legal schools consider such a marriage to be null and void. Thus a man and woman who contract a marriage without the permission of the bride's parents may or may not get the marriage recognised by the court, depending upon the legal opinion the judge chooses to follow.
In Western jurisdictions the regulation of marriages by the state is of comparatively recent origin. However, the idea of regulating religious marriages is hardly a new one. Public regulation of marriages in Europe was first enacted through canon (church) law: the Fourth Lateran Council of 1215 required all marriages to be announced in advance in a church by a priest, "so that if legitimate impediments exist, they may be made known". The Council of Trent (1545–63) refined the requirements further: weddings had to be conducted by the parish priest of one of the two parties; banns—an announcement of the wedding—had to be "published" during three major public worship services; there had to be at least two witnesses apart from the priest; and clergy had to keep a marriage register, a book in which they recorded every wedding they performed. Both Councils' rulings on marriage were expressly designed to prevent "clandestine" marriages. The Council of Trent justified its provisions by citing the case of a man, having conducted a clandestine marriage, abandoning his first wife, and marrying another woman publicly.
In England state regulation of marriage was first introduced in 1753, also for the reason of preventing the notorious abuses of clandestine marriage, which were to the detriment of women. The legal recourse was to target unscrupulous clergy, some of whom had been making a handsome living from conducting such marriages.
The Marriage Act of 1753, formally named "An Act for the better preventing of clandestine Marriages", took over some of the provisions of canon law, such as the requirement for witnesses, the publication of banns, and the recording of marriages in a parish register "for publick use".
The purpose of the 1753 Act was to ensure that marriage was a well-documented public event which helped protect vulnerable women and children from unscrupulous men by curtailing the practice of people marrying secretly. Clandestine marriages were considered objectionable because women who entered into them were more vulnerable to desertion and sexual exploitation. Their secret character meant that there was no public process of testing of the man and woman's marital status before the ceremony. It could also turn out later that there was inadequate documentation of the clandestine ceremony, leaving a woman without legal recourse if she was abandoned after becoming pregnant or bearing children. In the famous 1748 case of Creswell v Creswell a wealthy heiress, Anne Warneford, discovered that her husband had been clandestinely married twice before, which rendered her public marriage to Thomas Creswell void and their several children illegitimate, with no entitlement to their father's estate.
Under the 1753 Act, a minister of religion who conducted a clandestine marriage was punishable by transportation "to some of His Majesty's Plantations in America for the space of fourteen Years". To forge, alter or destroy a marriage register became a hanging offence.
Such draconian punishments as deportation, hanging, or cropping the ears of offending clergy—the latter penaltyapplied on the Isle of Man from 1757—may seem repugnant today, but the point is that imposing harsh penalties upon those who conduct unregistered marriages has a long-standing precedent in law. First the church and then the state introduced penalties to help ensure that marriages took place as public events and were officially registered, in order to protect vulnerable women and their children.
Unfortunately in recent years Western jurisdictions have been largely indifferent to the damaging implications for Muslim women of the creeping acceptance of sharia marriage practices, including the proliferation of unregistered marriages. Forgetting the hard-learned lessons of the past, a misplaced multicultural benevolence has caused authorities to turn a blind eye to the dangers of illegal religious marriages.
An example of such blindness was reported in 2001, when the Australian radio and television host Geraldine Doogue interviewed Sheikh Fehmi, a leading Australian imam, the Grand Mufti of Australia from 2007 to 2011. Sheikh Fehmi claimed that the Australian government had accepted unregistered polygamous marriages when it granted the right to Muslims to conduct weddings in 1968: previously the Muslim practice of polygamy had made the government reluctant to grant Islamic clerics status as marriage celebrants. Sheikh Fehmi reported coming to an understanding with the then Attorney General, Bill Snedden, that a Muslim man's first marriage would be registered, but the authorities would turn a blind eye to further marriages as long as they were unregistered:
Narrator: Muslims rarely marry outside their religious group and while this couple probably take it for granted they can have a wedding according their custom, in Australia this is a relatively new occurrence. Islam recognises polygamy so prior to 1968 Imams like Sheikh Fehmi were not permitted to celebrate marriages.
Sheikh Fehmi: It used to be at the time the late Mr Snedden he was the Attorney General. So I had a good meeting with him one day and tried to convince him that it is important for the Muslim to marry their own people. But he used to say to me, Well you know Sheikh Fehmi that you Muslims may marry more than one and when we are not allowed to let anybody here for have only one wife. I said to him, Listen to me please you may register the first one and don't worry about the second one. He laughed and said, All right we won't have anything to do with the second one. I stopped at the idea and at the time we had gained recognition from the Attorney General for all our Imams around Australia from that year onward.
Western jurisdictions originally legislated for public registration of marriages in order to prevent the very practice which Bill Snedden allegedly agreed to condone. This indifferent attitude to marriage is one reason why forced marriages are running out of control in the West, to the detriment of thousands of young Muslim women.
The reasons for preventing the practice of unregistered Islamic marriages are as valid today as they were in thirteenth-, sixteenth- and eighteenth-century Europe: to ensure that vulnerable women and girls are not coerced into marriages against their will, and to reduce the vulnerability of women to sexual exploitation and abandonment.
Many feminist scholars have criticised the institution of marriage and called for its abolition altogether. There is adecline in confidence in the institution of marriage across the West, and perhaps this is one reason why Western jurisdictions have become lackadaisical about policing illegal religious marriages. However, the fact remains that some forms of marriage are worse for women than others: these include concubinage, polygamy, and forced marriages in which girls are compelled to marry older men against their will. Such "marriages" stand worlds apart from the long-established ideal in Western jurisdictions of two adults entering into a publicly registered lifelong exclusive marriage covenant of their own free will. The reasons for the state to regulate marriages apply equally well to unregistered unions contracted by minority religious groups today as they did for Church of England marriages in the mid-eighteenth century.
Western nations need to take firmer measures to deter a variety of marriage-related practices condoned by specific interpretations of Islamic law, including polygamy and the trafficking of under-age girls into forced marriages. Such measures must not only target the "grooms" and the walis; they also need to target marriage celebrants, as in the Marriage Act of 1753. It should be illegal—with criminal penalties—for a registered marriage celebrant to conduct unregistered religious marriage ceremonies.
Governments should also make it illegal for marriages—even unregistered ones—to be conducted by anyone except in conformity to the marriage laws. Celebrants who conduct extra-judicial marriages should be stripped of their licence to conduct marriages and they should be denied tax-deductible charitable status as ministers of religion. Those who conduct unregistered forced religious marriages should feel the full force of the law by being charged with criminal offences under anti-trafficking and anti-paedophilia legislation. Male relatives who act as walis for forced marriages should likewise be prosecuted for sex trafficking. Furthermore, religious organisations who employ someone found guilty of conducting an illegal religious marriage should be made criminally culpable and stripped of their charitable status if they cannot show due diligence in preventing their staff from conducting illegal marriages. The witnesses of illegal marriages should also be made culpable for their actions: if witnesses are aware that the bride is under-age, or being married against her will, they should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting sex trafficking or paedophilia.
Modern states once again need to find the will to protect women from abusive "marriages" solemnised under the guise of religion by targeting those who conduct illegal Islamic marriages. There can be no place for complacency driven by multicultural political correctness. The Australian feminist academic Sheila Jeffries has rightly called the privileging of Islamic religious perspectives on women's rights "reverse racism". It is an unacceptable and dangerous fallacy that second-class human rights for Muslim women are good enough for them, simply because they happen to be Muslim. It would be grotesque if those who choose to speak up about the plight of Muslim women are accused of "Islamophobia". The true bigots are those who find the sexual abuse of Muslim women to be multiculturally acceptable.
Governments cannot afford to be negligent where Islamic marriages are concerned. The first victims of such negligence will be Muslim women. They are already being victimised in their thousands. Those who conduct or collaborate in conducting unlicensed religious marriages—whether they be the "husband", the woman's male guardian, the witnesses, or a cleric—must be made to suffer the full force of the law.
Mark Durie is an Anglican Vicar in Melbourne and a Shillman/Ginsburg Fellow at the Middle East Forum, Philadelphia.
Related Topics: Muslims in the West, Sex and gender relations | Mark DurieThis text may be reposted or forwarded so long as it is presented as an integral whole with complete and accurate information provided about its author, date, place of publication, and original URL.

CONCLUSION:

First, The world we live in is ruled by the wicked one as testified to by 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV). If we pick up a newspaper in any country, we find reports of cruelty and violence on an unprecedented scale. Man’s inhumanity to man is troubling for a righteous person to contemplate as testified to at Ecclesiastes 8:9, “All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.” (AV).

Second, Most individuals and/or groups seek to avoid responsibility for their own actions rather than take corrective actions. This also applies to so called religious groups that seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for the wrong actions of members, but fail, willingly, to take action against these wrong doers by purging themselves of these wicked ones.

If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.

Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.

Now let’s look at one such religion that tries to escape their responsibility for cleaning house so to speak.

Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing such as pedophile acts and terrorism, and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions upon themselves. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. And as previously stated, ‘Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.’

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ISLAM’S TREATMENT OF YOUNG GIRLS 3-24-2014

Yemen father burns daughter alive for contacting fiance
REUTERS FIRST POSTED: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 23, 2013 05:17 AM EDT |

A Yemeni father has burned his 15-year-old daughter to death for keeping in touch with her fiance, police said, sparking further outrage in Yemen. (Fotolia)
DUBAI – A Yemeni father has burned his 15-year-old daughter to death for keeping in touch with her fiance, police said, sparking further outrage in Yemen, where an eight-year girl died from internal bleeding on her wedding night a month ago.
Police said a 35-year-old man had been arrested after the teenager’s death in a remote village in the central Taiz province.
“The father committed this heinous crime on the pretext that his daughter had been keeping contacts with her fiance,” the police website said on Tuesday, giving no further details.
Some local news websites reported that the father had caught the girl chatting by telephone with her fiance. [source - retrieved from http://tundratabloids.com/2013/10/another-atrocity-in-yemen-land-father-burns-own-daughter-alive-for-speaking-with-finance.html on 3/24/2014]
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Child bride, 8, dies of internal bleeding on wedding night: Residents, activist

REUTERS
FIRST POSTED: TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2013 12:17 PM EDT | UPDATED: TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2013 07:00 PM EDT
(Danilo Rizzuti/Fotolia)

An eight-year-old Yemeni girl died of internal bleeding on her wedding night after marrying a man five times her age, a social activist and two local residents said, in a case that has caused an outcry in the media and revived debate about child brides.
Arwa Othman, head of Yemen House of Folklore and a leading rights campaigner, said the girl, identified only as Rawan, was married to a 40-year-old man late last week in the town of Meedi in Hajjah province in northwestern Yemen.
“On the wedding night and after intercourse, she suffered from bleeding and uterine rupture which caused her death,” Othman told Reuters. “They took her to a clinic but the medics couldn’t save her life.”
Othman said authorities had not taken any action against the girl’s family or her husband.
A local security official in the provincial town of Haradh denied any such incident had taken place. He did not want to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the press.
But two Meedi residents contacted by Reuters confirmed the death and said that local tribal chiefs had tried to cover up the death when news first broke, warning a local journalist against covering the story.
The Yemen Post said it sent correspondents to the area and found officials and journalists denied the reports. The newspaper said it spoke to the district’s director of criminal investigations who said he spoke to Rawan’s father.
“When I heard the rumours, I called the girl’s father. He came with his daughter and denied the marriage and death of his daughter,” Mosleh Al Azzani said.
Reporter Mohammad Radman, who the Post says broke the story, said he stands by his story and would testify in court.
Many poor families in Yemen marry off young daughters to save on the costs of bringing up a child and earn extra money from the dowry given to the girl.
A UN report released in January revealed the extent of the country’s poverty, saying that 10.5 million of Yemen’s 24 million people lacked sufficient food supplies, and 13 million had no access to safe water and basic sanitation.
Human Rights Watch urged Yemen’s government in December 2011 to ban marriages of girls under the age of 18, warning it deprived child brides of education and harmed their health.
Quoting United Nations and government data, HRW said nearly 14 percent of Yemeni girls were married before the age of 15 and 52 percent before the age of 18. The group said many Yemeni child brides-to-be are kept from school when they reach puberty. [SOURCE - RETRIEVED FROM http://www.torontosun.com/2013/09/10/reports-of-8-year-olds-marriage-and-death-denied ON 3/24/2014]
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Father gets 5 years for 'attempted honour killing' IN CANADA

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FIRST POSTED: TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 2010 01:55 PM EST | UPDATED: TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 2010 08:09 PM EST
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TORONTO - A Scarborough father who ran over his daughter, her boyfriend and son-in-law with his van in an attempted honour killing was sentenced Tuesday to five years in prison.
"Cultural differences can never be used as an excuse to justify criminal acts in Canada," said Justice John McMahon as he passed sentence on Selvanayagam Selladurai.
McMahon, who subtracted 11 months from the total sentence for time that Selladurai already served in jail, added that using van as a weapon is "is extremely reprehensible."
Selldaurai, 47, pleaded guilty last month to three counts of aggravated assault using his vehicle in the June 1, 2007, incident, near Stephen Leacock Collegiate, on Birchmount Rd., north of Sheppard Ave. E.
His daughter, Anitha Selvanayagam, 16, suffered a head cut, fractured collarbone and shoulder injury and had to spend three weeks in a hospital.
Selldaurai's son-in-law, Lenin Sandrasingam, 21, was left with a a broken pelvis. His daughter's boyfriend, Prashanna "Pram" Anadarajah, 18, suffered a sprained ankle.
Crown attorney Eadit Rokach characterized the crime "as an attempted honour killing."
The judge said Selladurai disapproved of his daughter's 17-year-old boyfriend because he was from a lower caste in their native Sri Lanka and the father feared it would reflect badly on his family's good reputation.
The patriarch feared that her relationship with him would mean others in their community "wouldn't consider his daughter suitable for marriage," said McMahon.
"This court cannot condone people resorting to violent criminal actions against family members because it would bring shame to the family," said McMahon.
Sellakdurai "accelerated his car, drove straight at them and struck all three, dragging his daughter and son-in-law for five metres until the mini-van crashed into a fence," said the judge. After Selladurai ran them over, he pursued the boyfriend and threatened to kill him, court heard. The victim made it to Stephen Leacock, where a teacher held off the angry father.
Selladurai's family members asked that the charges be withdrawn, said McMahon.
Selladurai was initially charged with attempted murder but pleaded guilty to the lesser charges.
The judge noted that Selladurai had been suffering from depression since 2006 and was off his medication at the time of the attack. On one occasion, the intoxicated Selladurai attempted to kill himself, said McMahon. [SOURCE - RETRIEVED FROM http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/11/23/16279821.html ON 3/24 /2014]
THE RELIGION IS RESPONSIBLE, SEE ARTICLE PROVING THIS:
Guilt Comes On Organizations That Fail To Clean House Of The Wicked Ones:

INTRODUCTION:

First, The world we live in is ruled by the wicked one as testified to by 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV). If we pick up a newspaper in any country, we find reports of cruelty and violence on an unprecedented scale. Man’s inhumanity to man is troubling for a righteous person to contemplate as testified to at Ecclesiastes 8:9, “All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.” (AV).

Second, Most individuals and/or groups seek to avoid responsibility for their own actions rather than take corrective actions. This also applies to so called religious groups that seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for the wrong actions of members, but fail, willingly, to take action against these wrong doers by purging themselves of these wicked ones.

THE REALITY:

If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.

Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.

Now let’s look at one such religion that tries to escape their responsibility for cleaning house so to speak.

ISLAM FAILS TO CLEAN HOUSE:

Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions upon themselves. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. And as previously stated, ‘Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.’

CONCLUSION:

Many are just fooling themself, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions. It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say. People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders. Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope (Pope Innocent III (1160 or 1161 – 16 July 1216)), what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but what their religious leaders told them. Therefore, it is the religion which is at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say. Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders. Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it. Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian.

Likewise the failure to clean house of evil ones puts their wrongs directly upon the organization failing to throw out evil/wicked ones when they are found out.

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HOW SEX PERVERTED SOME IN ISLAM MUST BE DWHEN CLERICS FEEL IT NECESSARY TO PROTECT BABIES AGAINST RAPE

Saudi Cleric Suggests Baby Girls Wear Burqas To Prevent Rape
Posted by sharia unveiled on February 5, 2014
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by, Lina Batarags | Opposing Views
A Saudi cleric has proposed this solution to molestation of young girls: they should be required to wear burqas.
While no law or practice in Islam requires that baby girls wear burqas, Sheik Abdulla Daoud suggested that covering the babies in burqas would keep them from being raped. Daoud made the controversial comment on TV last year, stating that babies were being molested in Saudi Arabia.
The video recently surfaced on social media, and elicited shocked and indignant response from fellow Saudis.
“Now the baby victims are blamed for men’s crimes. Allah help us stop the ignorance, stupidity,” tweeted Masleeza Othman.
Othman later followed up the original tweet with another condemning those who “abuse, molested and sexually assaulted or harassed the babies, children.”
“They aren’t supposed to even live!!” Othman continued.
Senior Islamic officers have also been highly critical of Daoud’s comments, noting that they “made Islam and Sharia law look bad.”
Daoud’s comment comes as a contrast to online activists’ recent calls for the Saudi kingdom’s rulers to impose harsher punishments on child abusers. Most notably, Fayhan al-Ghamdi, a prominent preacher, received a light sentencing after confessing to raping and beating his 5-year-old daughter to death.
Startlingly, al-Ghamdi is protected by Saudi Arabia’s Islamic law, under which a father cannot be executed for murdering his children or his wife.
Reports indicate that Saudi Arabia plans to launch a 24-hour hotline, specifically for reporting violence against children.

[source - retrieved from http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2014/02/05/saudi-cleric-suggests-baby-girls-wear-burqas-to-prevent-rape/ on 3/24/2014]

ISLAM IS IN DEPLORABLE AND EVIL CONDITION AS THEY FAIL TO CLEAN HOUSE OF EVIL ONES.

Guilt Comes On Organizations That Fail To Clean House Of The Wicked Ones:

INTRODUCTION:

First, The world we live in is ruled by the wicked one as testified to by 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV). If we pick up a newspaper in any country, we find reports of cruelty and violence on an unprecedented scale. Man’s inhumanity to man is troubling for a righteous person to contemplate as testified to at Ecclesiastes 8:9, “All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.” (AV).

Second, Most individuals and/or groups seek to avoid responsibility for their own actions rather than take corrective actions. This also applies to so called religious groups that seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for the wrong actions of members, but fail, willingly, to take action against these wrong doers by purging themselves of these wicked ones.

THE REALITY:

If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.

Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.

Now let’s look at one such religion that tries to escape their responsibility for cleaning house so to speak.

ISLAM FAILS TO CLEAN HOUSE:

Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions upon themselves. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. And as previously stated, ‘Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.’

CONCLUSION:

Many are just fooling themself, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions. It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say. People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders. Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope (Pope Innocent III (1160 or 1161 – 16 July 1216)), what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but what their religious leaders told them. Therefore, it is the religion which is at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say. Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders. Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it. Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian.

Likewise the failure to clean house of evil ones puts their wrongs directly upon the organization failing to throw out evil/wicked ones when they are found out.

To learn more about Evil Islam, Almighty God (YHWH) and the Bible, go to,

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SOME MUSLIMS MAKING A SHAME OUT OF MARRIAGE TO SATISFY PEDOPHILE SINS:

Some complain about immorality among the English (Brits) but Muslim immorality is much worse, read the following proof of that.

News Says It All.

"Girls married 60 times before 18" - Egypt's Child Sex Tourism

YouTube video from the National Council for Childhood and Motherhood promotes women's political rights in Egypt. The NCCM says women's inequality is reflected in sham marriages for teenage girls that are a form of child prostitution.

As if we needed more discouraging news out of the turmoil in Egypt, a shocking report says that thousands of teenage girls are being sold by their parents to wealthy Arab male tourists under the pretext of marriage in a barely-disguised form of child prostitution.

“The sham nuptials may last from a couple of hours to years,” says a story entitled "Underage Girls are Egypt's Summer Rentals" by Cam McGrath from the Inter Press Service News Agency.

“It’s a form of child prostitution in the guise of marriage,” Azza El-Ashmawy, director of the Child Anti-Trafficking Unit at the National Council for Childhood and Motherhood told the IPS.

“Some girls have been married 60 times by the time they turn 18," she said. " Most ‘marriages’ last for just a couple of days or weeks.”

McGrath explains that temporary marriages allow the male buyers to get around Islamic restrictions on pre-marital sex.

He reports that the trade has increased since Egypt’s 2011 revolution ushered in a period of economic collapse along with crumbling law enforcement.

McGrath describes the scene in El Hawamdia , an impoverished town 20 kilometres outside of Cairo.

Well-dressed Arab men "troll the town’s pot-holed, garbage-strewn streets in their luxury cars and SUVs" as "fixers" run alongside offering them apartments -- and underage girls -- for rent.

A NCCM survey of 2,000 families in three towns near Cairo found that "the hefty sums paid by Arab tourists was the main motive for the high rate" of so-called “summer marriages” in these areas.

Three-quarters of the respondents said that they knew girls involved in the trade and that the number of marriages was increasing.

According to the survey, more than 80 percent of the male “spouses” were from Saudi Arabia, 10 percent from the United Arab Emirates, and four percent from Kuwait.

The IPS story says that since sexual relations with minors is illegal in Egypt, brokers forge birth certificates or substitute the identity card of a girl’s older sister.
It says a "pleasure” marriage can be arranged for as little as 800 Egyptian pounds (about $120 Canadian dollars).

Sandy Shinouda with the Counter-Trafficking Unit of the International Organisation of Migration in Cairo told IPS that most of the young girls come from large families for whom marriage to a wealthier foreigner offers an escape from poverty.

"The family considers her as a commodity,” she told the IPS . “The girls know their families have exploited them…they can understand that their parents sold them.”
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Julian Sher is a foreign affairs and invetsigative reporter for the Star and be reached at jsher@thestar.caand on Twitter @juliansher . [source - retrieved from Toronto Sun at http://www.thestar.com/news/the_world_daily/2013/08/girls-married-60-times-before-18-egypts-child-sex-tourism.html on 3/25/2014]

REALITY:

Guilt Comes On Organizations That Fail To Clean House Of The Wicked Ones:

INTRODUCTION:

First, The world we live in is ruled by the wicked one as testified to by 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV). If we pick up a newspaper in any country, we find reports of cruelty and violence on an unprecedented scale. Man’s inhumanity to man is troubling for a righteous person to contemplate as testified to at Ecclesiastes 8:9, “All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.” (AV).

Second, Most individuals and/or groups seek to avoid responsibility for their own actions rather than take corrective actions. This also applies to so called religious groups that seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for the wrong actions of members, but fail, willingly, to take action against these wrong doers by purging themselves of these wicked ones.

THE REALITY:

If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.

Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.

Now let’s look at one such religion that tries to escape their responsibility for cleaning house so to speak.

ISLAM FAILS TO CLEAN HOUSE:

Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions upon themselves. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. And as previously stated, ‘Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.’

CONCLUSION:

Many are just fooling themself, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions. It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say. People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders. Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope (Pope Innocent III (1160 or 1161 – 16 July 1216)), what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but what their religious leaders told them. Therefore, it is the religion which is at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say. Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders. Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it. Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian.

Likewise the failure to clean house of evil ones puts their wrongs directly upon the organization failing to throw out evil/wicked ones when they are found out.

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MANY MUSLIMS TRY TO MISLEAD AND COVER UP THE AWFUL FACTS ON MUSLIM GANG RAPISTS ARE SPRINGING UP EVERYWHERE. WHY CAN'T WE BE HONEST ABOUT IT? LEARN REALITY, DO NOT BE UNAWARE

by MILO YIANNOPOULOS 27 Aug 2014

The notorious Sydney gang rapes in 2000 were committed by Lebanese Australians. Muslim menraped women and girls as young as 14. Australia, being a sensible sort of place, identified that the rapists were targeting white girls and branded these monstrous acts "racially-motivated hate crimes."
Because that's what they looked like: one ethnicity was specifically targeting another. The Australian girls were vulnerable, and they were abused by Middle Eastern men who considered them "trash." Had these men been at home, they would have raped their own, but in another country, women from outside their own "community" were preferable victims.
Elsewhere in Europe, the problem has been known about for years. In the Netherlands, it's Moroccans and Turks who have taken advantage of legalised brothels to entrap and enslave white girls. Holland has been dealing with and discussing this problem openly since 2001.
And now we have our own gang rape scandal, with chillingly similar dynamics at play. This time it's Pakistanis, and a staggering 1,400 victims across sixteen years in the town of Rotherham. In 2012, the Times uncovered documents showing agencies were aware of extensive and co-ordinated abuse of white girls by Asian men in Rotherham for which no one had been prosecuted. Once again, a single ethnicity, targeting another.
But only a racist would believe this is a "Pakistani" problem. It isn't. It's a cultural phenomenon unique to Muslim communities, as suggested by the prevalence of father-son combinations in so many of the gangs, wherever in the world they appear. And here's another clue it's not just about brown-on-white crime: Britain's Sikh community has beencomplaining for years that its young girls are being targeted by Muslim rapists.
But good luck figuring out the complicated racial and religious dimensions to these crimes if you're getting your news from the Guardian. That newspaper, together with some parts of the BBC, is committing the same error in judgment that the police and council in Rotherham did over all those years. They are turning a blind eye to obviously pertinent facts of the case for political reasons.
There are complex religious and cultural reasons why Muslim men are drawn to rape in gangs, often in family units, with fathers, sons and uncles all raping the same women. But how will we ever know why this is so, and begin to tackle it, until we are honest about what's happening?
I can't vouch for the authorship of this remarkable online document, apparently produced by members of the public, but it discusses in impressive detail some of these issues - and documents a decade of cover-up and cowardice by the media, politicians and law enforcement. It shows that what has been happening on our streets is better understood by ordinary members of the public than by the people who run their cities.
Rotherham is a Labour area (well of course it is), though it's also somewhere UKIP does strongly in elections - probably because local residents are a lot more realistic about the town's problems than its police force. The BNP even came third in a 2010 by-election. And it's Labour's obsession with political correctness, multiculturalism and avoiding accusations of racism that some say contributed to this disaster.

"Now we can see the terrible harm done by so-called 'progressive' zealots who have made it a thought crime to identify and deal with bad behaviour by minorities, while in another part of the liberal jungle sanctioning the sexual free-for-all," wrote Times columnistMelanie Phillips yesterday.
It is difficult to overstate how awful these crimes were, nor how completely victims were failed by the authorities. One girl was doused in petrol and told she would be set on fire if she didn't comply. Others were forced to watch rapes and told they would be next if they spoke out. The police regarded these girls with as much contempt as the rapists.
And in perhaps the most horrific paragraph in a report published yesterday, we learned that in two cases fathers had tracked down their daughters and tried to rescue them from houses in which they were being held, only to find themselves arrested by police, while the rapists walked free.
How many council staff do you suppose are under investigation, or have been sacked? Yup, you guessed it: none. Rotherham council's chief executive, Martin Kimber, has not only stayed in his post but he has said he doesn't have evidence enough to prosecute or discipline a single member of the council's staff.
"Failures of leadership," he called it - a modern euphemism for the refusal by bosses to do the honourable thing and take responsibility. "Officers in senior positions responsible for children's safeguarding services throughout the critical periods when services fell some way short of today's standards do not work for the council today," he said. How convenient for him!
If you're wondering just how badly in denial our police and politicians were about all this, by the way, consider a BBC report from 2012 I stumbled across, which recounts that Chief Constable David Crompton was asked if "ethnic origin was a factor" in the Crown Prosecution Service charging suspects. His reply? "No, it's not a factor at all."
It's hard to avoid the conclusion that the Left-wing media appears to be in cahoots with the Establishment to cover up crime because it refuses to acknowledge that there might be such a thing as a racially or religiously inflected crime not committed by a white person.
With lies and denial at those levels, God only knows what's happening in the rest of the country. Will we ever find out? Or are Labour politicians and the police force hell-bent on enforcing colourblindness, even if it means thousands of children being sexually abused? Because, I'm sorry to say, it's simply not plausible that Rotherham is the only town in which this is happening.
It remains true that the majority of child abusers are older white men. But how many white men rape on the scale we've seen in Rotherham and Sydney - not to mention what happens back in Pakistan and the Middle East? In any case, it's obvious why there are more white rapists: Britain is 90 per cent white. But although white child abusers tend to act alone, gangs of rapists operating on an industrial scale is is a specific cultural problem in Muslim communities. Why bother denying it?
The enquiry was told that gang rape was a "usual part of growing up" in some parts of Rotherham. For how many other cities in our country is that the case? Shouldn't we be looking elsewhere, to places where there are similar socioeconomic, religious and ethnic mixes, to see if the same problems exist and help to prevent more young girls from being abused? Or would that be "racist"?
The political Left shrieks blue murder over the slightest indication of overbearing male behaviour when it's a white man. The tone-deaf "Everyday Sexism" project is a weapon wielded almost exclusively at white middle-class men by white middle-class women. But it makes excuses for rapists and even child abusers when the criminals are black, or, especially, from a Muslim community.
It takes a brave politician, especially if they sit on the Labour side of the House, to speak frankly about Muslim attitudes to non-Muslims in Britain today. Remember the outcry when Jack Straw said what everyone in his constituency knew, that white girls were considered "easy meat" by Pakistani rapists? He was right, though.
How long before we admit there's a Muslim gang rape problem in this country? And how on earth can we prevent further abuses, if we're not honest about why these things happen and who's involved, and we seek to better understand the dynamics of these communities and what might motivate their young men to commit these crimes? [source - retrieved from http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/27/Muslim-gang-rapists-are-springing-up-everywhere-Why-can-t-we-be-honest-about-it on 9/1/2014]

Go to, UK Muslim Gang Rape 100 Teenage Girls - Wheres The Outrage In PC UK Media?

For details, go to, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an-DgorV8HM

Also, go to:

* http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pge53WOIcrY

* http://www.nationalreview.com/article/386467/rotherham-rapes-muslim-connection-ian-tuttle

* http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3068/muslim-child-rape-gangs-britain

* http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3846/britain-child-grooming

* http://pamelageller.com/2014/04/uk-yet-another-muslim-rape-gang-convicted-sexually-abusing-schoolgirl.html/

* http://www.catholic.org/news/international/europe/story.php?id=56719

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Here is a copy of my letter to a pesty Muslim apologist, Iftikhar, that all should read and learn from.
Hi Iftikhar
I am very tired with your anti-British HOGwash and PIGcrap and your absurd attempts to justify wearing masks in public places. Yes, the Brits are in no way perfect, but they have far better morales and common sense than you and other Muslim apologist have. Modesty has nothing to do with being OVER dressed or wearing masks to hide one’s identity. So knock off the HOGwash and PIGcrap you have been spewing forth with. Enough is enough of HOGwash and PIGcrap. Now let’s look at some more justification of absolute wickedness by your false religion and its sex pervert founder and highwayman. The facts are what they are, so admit your wrong outlook.
MUSLIM APOLOGIST CLAIM WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS SEX PERVERTS; WHEREAS, THE TRUTH IS THAT ISLAM IS A SEX CRAIZED WICKED FALSE RELIGION;

REALITY – any religion that approves of killing a women’s husband and then raping his wife is wicked beyond comprehension.

Let’s look at an article revealing that this extreme wickedness is approved by Islam and practiced by its founder, the false prophet Muhammad. There is no such thing a moderation in Islam as its members are governed by the evil unholy Quran – read reality for yourself.

Muhammad and Islam's Sex Slaves
by Raymond Ibrahim, FrontPage Magazine, October 16, 2014

http://www.meforum.org/4855/muhammad-and-islam-sex-slaves


Once again, Islamic State Muslims are pointing to Islam in order to justify what the civilized world counts as atrocities.

According to an October 13 report in theTelegraph,
Islamic State jihadists have given detailed theological reasons justifying why they have taken thousands of women from the Iraqi Yazidi minority and sold them into sex slavery.

A new article in the Islamic State English-language online magazine Dabiq not only admits the practice but justifies it according to the theological rulings of early Islam.

"After capture, the Yazidi women and children were then divided according to the Sharia amongst the fighters of the Islamic State who participated," the article says.
As for "theological reasons" for sex slavery "according to the Sharia," these are legion—from male Muslim clerics, tofemale Muslim activists. Generally they need do no more than cite the clear words of Koran 4:3, which permit Muslims to copulate with female captives of war, or ma malakat aymanukum, "what"—not whom—"your right hands possess."

The article continues:
But most of it [Islamic State "article" or fatwa] is devoted to theological justifications for Islamic State behaviour, citing early clerics and the practices of the Prophet Mohammed and his Companions during the early years of Islamic expansion.

Indeed, while many are now aware of the Koran's and by extension Sharia's justification for slaves, sexual or otherwise, fewer are willing to embrace the fact that the prophet of Islam himself kept and copulated with concubines conquered during the jihad.

Muhammad seized for himself as rightfully earned booty (or ghanima) a young woman, after killing everyone dear to her. According to authoritative Islamic sources, she hated him for it. If that is not rape, what is?
One little-known story is especially eye-opening:

During Muhammad's jihad on the Jews of Khaybar, he took for himself from among the spoils of war one young woman, a teenager, Safiya bint Huyay, after hearing of her beauty. (Earlier the prophet had bestowed her on another Muslim jihadi, but when rumor of her beauty reached him, the prophet reneged and took her for himself.)

Muhammad "married" Safiya hours after he had her husband, Kinana, tortured to death in order to reveal hidden treasure. And before this, the prophet's jihadis slaughtered Safiya's father and brothers.

While Islamic apologists have long tried to justify this account—often by saying that Muhammad gave her the honor of "marriage" as opposed to being a concubine and that she opted to convert to Islam—they habitually fail to cite what Islamic sources record, namely Baladhuri's ninth century Kitab Futuh al-Buldan ("Book of Conquests").

According to this narrative, after the death of Muhammad, Safiya confessed that "Of all men, I hated the prophet the most—for he killed my husband, my brother, and my father," before "marrying" (or, less euphemistically, raping) her.
So there it is. Muhammad seized for himself as rightfully earned booty (or ghanima) a young woman; he took her after killing everyone dear to her—husband, father, brothers, etc.

And, according to authoritative Islamic sources, she hated him for it.
If that is not rape, what is?

In fact, this incident is regularly cited by former Muslims as one of the greatest anecdotes that convinced them that Islam and Muhammad are not of God.
Nor, as expected, was Muhammad alone in this sort of rape. For example, Khalid bin Walid—the "Sword of Allah" and hero for aspiring jihadis around the world—raped another woman renowned for her beauty, Layla, right on the battlefield—but only after he severed her "apostate" husband's head, lit it on fire, and cooked his dinner on it.

If this is how Muhammad—whom Koran 33:21 exhorts Muslims to emulate in all ways—behaved towards conquered female "infidels," should there be any more surprise concerning the Islamic State's behavior?

Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a Judith Friedman Rosen Writing Fellow at the Middle East Forum and a CBN News contributor. He is the author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam's New War on Christians (2013) and The Al Qaeda Reader (2007).

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Post  Admin on Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:06 pm

MUSLIM APOLOGIST LIKE TO MISLEAD AND NEGLECT TO MENTION THAT MUSLIMS ARE THE RESPONSIBLE ONES FOR THE WRONG DOING:
HERE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THIS MISDIRECTION BY THEM:
One Muslim apologist, Iftikhar, posted the following misleading information.
<<[[Organised child sexual exploitation (CSE) is widespread across England and local authorities need to ensure they fully investigate concerns when they arise, a report by MPs has concluded.
The communities and local government committee report also questioned Ofsted's ability to identify problems around CSE through the children's services inspection process and whether councillors were sufficiently trained to properly challenge senior officers about the extent of safeguarding concerns.

The Rotherham Council-commissioned Jay Report estimated that between 1997 and 2013, 1,400 children and young people had been subject to organised sexual abuse, and criticised how local agencies handled concerns raised. Following publication, an independent child protection commissioner was appointed in Rotherham, an inspection of the council headed by troubled families tsar Louise Casey was launched, and the director of children's services Joyce Thacker resigned.]]>>
But conveniently did NOT MENTION that Muslims were the ones committing the wrongs. Let’s look at the FACTS FROM THE NEWS on this CSE Crime by Muslims.
The Rotherham Muslim Rape-Gang on Wikipedia
Posted on February 2, 2013by violenceagainstwhites
The Rotherham sex grooming was a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve by five men who were convicted and jailed in November 2010.[1] The men fostered relationships with teenage girls and had sex with them in cars and parks in Rotherham.[1] A investigation by The Times reported that the child sex exploitation was much more widespread and the Home Affairs Select Committee criticized the South Yorkshire police force and Rotherham council for their handling of the abuse.
Trial
The men were tried in Sheffield Crown Court and were told by the judge that, “the message must go out loud and clear that our society will not tolerate sexual predators preying on children.”[1] In addition to their sentences, all five were placed on the sex offenders register.[2]
Name[1]
Conviction Sentence
Zafran Ramzan rape, 2 charges of sexual activity with a child 9 years
Razwan Razaq 2 charges of sexual activity with a child 11 years
Umar Razaq sexual activity with a child 4.5 years
Adil Hussain sexual activity with a child 4 years
Mohsin Khan sexual activity with a child 4 years
The Times investigation
In September 2012, a series of investigations by The Times based on confidential police and social services documents, stated that the abuse had been much more widespread than acknowledged.[3][4] It said that there was systematic abuse of white girls by some Asian men in Rotherham for which people were not being prosecuted.[5][6]
The newspaper cited a 2010 report by the police intelligence bureau which discussed “a problem with networks of Asian offenders both locally and nationally” which was “particularly stressed in Sheffield and even more so in Rotherham, where there appears to be a significant problem with networks of Asian males exploiting young white females.[6][4]It also referred to a document from the Rotherham Safeguarding Children Board that stated that the “crimes had ‘cultural characteristics…which are locally sensitive in terms of diversity’”.[6]
The South Yorkshire Police denied these accusations saying that The Times was wrong, and that to suggest the police force was deliberately withholding information was “a gross distortion and unfair on the teams of dedicated specialists working to tackle the problem.”[3]
Reaction
The Rotherham MP, Denis MacShane, criticized the police force for concealing the extent of the abuse, saying “it is clear that the internal trafficking of barely pubescent girls is much more widespread and I regret that the police did not tell Yorkshire MPs about their inquiries.”[3]
Lord Ahmed called for mosque leaders in South Yorkshire to highlight the problem of sex exploitation.[7] He said this issue was a “new phenomenon within the Asian community” and that “it’s important that the community, rather than going silent… talk about it.”[7]Muhbeen Hussain, founder of Rotherham Muslim Youth group, said all communities denounced the exploitation and that “we need Muslim leaders to go out there and condemn this and make it clear it’s wrong.”[7] The chairman of the Pakistan and Muslim Centre in Sheffield, Mohammed Ali said the South Yorkshire mosques, the imams and the committee members had discussed this situation that “needs to be tackled.”[7] [Muslims try to cover-up Muslim wrongs as did Muhbeen Hassain above.]
Rotherham council report
In November 2012, the Rotherham council identified 58 possible victims of sexual exploitation.[8] The director of children and young people’s services attributed the rise from 50 of last year to an increased public awareness.[8] A national report by the Office of Children’s Commissioner, also published in November, found that thousands of children were sexually abused by gangs in England each year.[8]
Home Affairs Select Committee
In October 2012, the Home Affairs Select Committee criticized South Yorkshire’s chief constable, Philip Etheridge, and one of its top officers, David Compton, for their handling of child sex abuse.[4] The committee heard evidence of three members of a family that were connected with the abuse of 61 girls but were not convicted, and of a similarly unconvicted 22-year-old man who was found in a car with a 12-year-old girl with indecent images of her on his phone.[4] David Compton said that “ethnic origin” was not a factor in deciding whether to charge suspects.[4] The committee said that they were very concerned, as was the public.[4]
In January 2013, the head of Rotherham council, Martin Kimber, was summoned in front of the Home Affairs Select Committee to explain the lack of arrests for sexual exploitation, despite South Yorkshire Police saying it was conducting several investigations and the local authority having identified 58 young girls at risk.[5] MP Keith Vaz questioned why after the five Asian men were jailed in 2010, more was not being done: “In Lancashire there were 100 prosecutions the year before last, in South Yorkshire there were no prosecutions”. The council apologised for its “systemic failure” that had “let down” the victims of child sexual exploitation.[5]
External links
The Times – Child sex abuse: the investigations and reports (paywall)
References
1. ^ a b c d “Five Rotherham men jailed for child sex offences”. BBC.
2. ^ “Five guilty of grooming teenage girls for sex”. Independent.
3. ^ a b c “South Yorkshire Police deny hiding girls’ sex abuse”. BBC.
4. ^ a b c d e f “South Yorkshire Police ‘must get a grip’ on child abuse”. BBC.
5. ^ a b c “Rotherham council apologises to child grooming victims”. BBC.
6. ^ a b c “Police files reveal vast child protection scandal”. The Times. Retrieved January 23, 2013.
7. ^ a b c d “Lord Ahmed calls on mosques ‘to speak’ about sex abuse”. BBC.
8. ^ a b c “Rotherham sex abuse: More girls at risk”. BBC. [source - retrieved from http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/…/the-rotherham-muslim…/ on 11/23/2014]
ALSO CONSIDER:
This self same Muslim apologist said some time ago the following.
<<[[ The native Brits have double standards and are hypocrites; they don't mention the fact that the majority of men who go to countries in East Asia looking for under aged sex are natives European men.]]>>
My answer to his attempt to divert attention away from terrible Muslim wrong doings is just trying to ‘fog’ the truth up. Let’s look at REALITY and Muslim rape gangs in the U.K. and other European countries.
Yes, no society including that of the U.K. is free of pedophiles, but fails to mention that Islam has a much greater proportion of pedophiles and sexual deviants that native Brits. This omission is patently dishonest to the extreme, just like his other statements. In fact, with respect the Muslim rape gangs in the U.K., it often becomes a family affair of sexual deviance and abuse with family members such as fathers, uncles, sons, cousins, etc. participating in gang rapes of young girls.
[NOTE: TO LEARN MORE ON MUSLIM GANG RAPES IN THE U.K. AND EUROPE, GO TO THE FOLLOWING:
1 - http://www.breitbart.com/…/Muslim-gang-rapists-are-springin…
2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an-DgorV8HM
3 - http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/
4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pge53WOIcrY
5 - http://www.nationalreview.com/…/rotherham-rapes-muslim-conn…
6 - http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/…/muslim-child-rape-gangs…
7 - http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/38…/britain-child-grooming
8 - http://pamelageller.com/…/uk-yet-another-muslim-rape-gang-…/
9 - http://www.catholic.org/news/international/europe/story.php…
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Re: How Women Are Treated When Islamist Are In Control – Just The Facts:

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MANY MUSLIMS VIEW ANYONE FOR RIGHTS FOR WOMEN AS A WESTERN AGENT AND HATE THEM.

One Muslim apologist posted the following,

<<[[ Malala Yousafzai may have won the Nobel Peace Prize, but she remains an object of hate for many Pakistanis who view her as a Western agent on a mission to shame her country.
Shot in the head by Taliban insurgents two years ago after she spoke out against them for opposing girls’ education, it comes as little surprise that hard line Islamists continue to revile the 17-year-old.]]>>

YES, in the figurative eyes of many members of Islam WOMEN ARE TO BE SUPRESSED, and in keeping with their wicked false religion are to be hated and violence is to be committed against them. Malala Yousafzai is just the latest target/victim of this hate and their love for violence.

LET’S face it, education does not only take place in schools, but at home and in the mosques.

This same Muslim apologist conveniently overlooks this reality and posted the following a few days ago,

<<[[ None of 7/7 bombers and British Muslim youths who are in Syria and Iraq are the product of Muslim schools. They are the product of British schooling which is the home of institutional racism with chicken racist native teachers.]]>>

And unfortunately the home and the mosques have done a very good job of inbreeding hate, a love for violence, and disrespect for the person and property of non-Muslims.
Therefore it is imperative that the U.K. and other European countries NEVER allow Muslim faith based schools as the non-secular public school represents societies LAST OPPORTUNITY to out-breed some of the hate, a love for violence, and disrespect for the person and property of non-Muslims out of Muslim children.

Let’s take a look at an item from the former colony of Canada that shows the imperative for NOT PERMITTING MUSLIM FAITH BASED SCHOOLS that further inbreed hate, a love for violence, and disrespect for the person and property of non-Muslims; and shooting of Muslim girls such as Malala who stand up for education for girls and label girls like her falsely as western agents.

A heads-up from Canada clearly shows that Imams (Muslim clergy) are teaching hate and a love for violence against non-Muslims. Here are several pertinent extracts from an example that will be Example one.
<<[[ TO SAMPLE THIS TYPE OF RHETORIC LET ME SHARE THE WORDS OF A CANADIAN IMAM WHO IS REGULARLY CONSULTED BY CANADA'S SECURITY AGENCIES.
IN ONE SERMON, HE HAD THIS TO SAY ABOUT NON-MUSLIMS:
"O ALLAH, PROTECT US FROM THE 'FITNA' (MISCHIEF) OF THESE PEOPLE. O ALLAH, PROTECT US FROM THE EVIL OF THESE PEOPLE. O ALLAH, DESTROY THEM FROM WITHIN THEMSELVES, YA ALLAH, AND DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO RAISE THEIR HEADS AGAINST ISLAM."
IN ANOTHER MOSQUE SERMON:
"WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH ISLAM (IN CANADA). I WANT TO SEE ISLAM IN EVERY SINGLE CORNER OF THE CITY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIJABIS, NIQABIS (FACE-MASKED WOMEN) EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY. I WANT TO SEE BROTHERS (MUSLIM MEN) IN BEARDS AND KUFIS (SKULL CAPS) EVERYWHERE."
ON AN URDU-LANGUAGE TV CHANNEL, ITS CLERIC AND ITS ADMINISTRATOR DEFENDED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A WORLDWIDE ISLAMIC CALIPHATE, SAYING, "HAVING A CALIPHATE IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE ISLAMIC FAITH. EVERY BELIEVING MUSLIM PRAYS FOR A TRUE CALIPH."
THE DISSENSION BEING PLANTED IN THE MINDS OF YOUNG MUSLIM CHILDREN IS WIDESPREAD AND NOT NEW.
IT'S TIME FOR CSIS AND THE RCMP TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUTREACH AND APPEASEMENT PROGRAMS HAVE FAILED.
A TORONTO HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER, BRIAN SAMBOURNE, RECENTLY WROTE A LETTER TO THE EDITOR OF THE GLOBE AND MAIL, REVEALING THAT ON THE DAY THE NEW YORK TWIN TOWERS FELL ON 9/11, SOME OF HIS MUSLIM STUDENTS CELEBRATED THE EVENT.
On the day Osama Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan, he said, Muslim students disrupted his class and were visibly angry with the U.S. mission. [[BE SURE TO READ EXAMPLE 1]]]>>
AND,
ANOTHER SHOWS THE RESULTS OF THIS MOSQUE AND HOME TRAINING. SEE EXAMPLE 2, BELOW [[BE SURE TO READ IT]]

EXAMPLE 1.
Read reality for yourself:
Time for Canada to Take on the Jihadist Agenda
by Tarek Fatah
The Toronto Sun
October 28, 2014
http://www.meforum.org/4873/time-to-take-on-jihadist-agenda

Damian Clairmont, a Calgary-based convert to Islam, was radicalized for two years before departing Canada to fight and die for ISIS in Syria. His mother has denounced the government's "cavalier attitude" toward Islamist indoctrination of Canadian youth.
At times, my fellow Canadians alarm me.
When three anonymous women allegedly have kinky sex with radio celebrity Jian Ghomeshi and are allegedly physically and/or verbally assaulted by him, the country goes into a tizzy.
However, when three anonymous Toronto girls are recruited by Islamic State to marry ISIS fighters overseas who are warring against Canada, and are subsequently rescued by our security agencies and released back into the community, Canada yawns.
WHILE CANADIANS WERE DISTRACTED BY THE GHOMESHI AFFAIR, THE SENATE SECURITY COMMITTEE HEARD FROM RCMP AND CSIS OFFICIALS ABOUT THE THREATS WE FACE AT THE HANDS OF HOMEGROWN JIHADISTS.
ONE EXCHANGE BETWEEN SEN. DANIEL LANG AND CSIS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MICHAEL PEIRCE ENDED WITH THE SECURITY OFFICIAL MAKING A STARTLING ADMISSION — CSIS DOES NOT INVESTIGATE MOSQUES!
SEN. LANG: "Is there teachings going on in this country, in Canada, that are espousing that particular viewpoint [of Islam], which is then transferring itself into radicalization?"
MICHAEL PEIRCE: "The short answer to the question is yes. There are individuals who are espousing a radical extremist view of Islam, and they are doing so specifically to radicalize individuals … I'm not talking about specific institutions. I'm talking about individuals. And I should be very clear about that. When we investigate, we investigate individuals and their activities … So for instance, we don't investigate mosques." (My italics)
How could CSIS give a pass to some of the very institutions where Muslim youth are introduced to the doctrine of Islam's supremacy over other religions?
TO SAMPLE THIS TYPE OF RHETORIC LET ME SHARE THE WORDS OF A CANADIAN IMAM WHO IS REGULARLY CONSULTED BY CANADA'S SECURITY AGENCIES.
IN ONE SERMON, HE HAD THIS TO SAY ABOUT NON-MUSLIMS:
"O ALLAH, PROTECT US FROM THE 'FITNA' (MISCHIEF) OF THESE PEOPLE. O ALLAH, PROTECT US FROM THE EVIL OF THESE PEOPLE. O ALLAH, DESTROY THEM FROM WITHIN THEMSELVES, YA ALLAH, AND DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO RAISE THEIR HEADS AGAINST ISLAM."
IN ANOTHER MOSQUE SERMON:
"WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH ISLAM (IN CANADA). I WANT TO SEE ISLAM IN EVERY SINGLE CORNER OF THE CITY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIJABIS, NIQABIS (FACE-MASKED WOMEN) EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY. I WANT TO SEE BROTHERS (MUSLIM MEN) IN BEARDS AND KUFIS (SKULL CAPS) EVERYWHERE."
Another Islamic organization in Toronto runs a school as well as a mosque.
ON AN URDU-LANGUAGE TV CHANNEL, ITS CLERIC AND ITS ADMINISTRATOR DEFENDED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A WORLDWIDE ISLAMIC CALIPHATE, SAYING, "HAVING A CALIPHATE IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE ISLAMIC FAITH. EVERY BELIEVING MUSLIM PRAYS FOR A TRUE CALIPH."
THE DISSENSION BEING PLANTED IN THE MINDS OF YOUNG MUSLIM CHILDREN IS WIDESPREAD AND NOT NEW.
IT'S TIME FOR CSIS AND THE RCMP TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUTREACH AND APPEASEMENT PROGRAMS HAVE FAILED.
A TORONTO HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER, BRIAN SAMBOURNE, RECENTLY WROTE A LETTER TO THE EDITOR OF THE GLOBE AND MAIL, REVEALING THAT ON THE DAY THE NEW YORK TWIN TOWERS FELL ON 9/11, SOME OF HIS MUSLIM STUDENTS CELEBRATED THE EVENT.
Sambourne, who noted these students had "deep grievances" about constant wars in the Mideast, told me that over the last decade, these anti-West feelings have gotten worse.
On the day Osama Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan, he said, Muslim students disrupted his class and were visibly angry with the U.S. mission.
It's time for CSIS and the RCMP to recognize that outreach and appeasement programs have failed.
It's time to take off our kid gloves and land a knockout punch on the jihadist agenda in Canada. ?
Tarek S. Fatah is a founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, a columnist at the Toronto Sun, host of a Sunday afternoon talk show on Toronto's NewsTalk1010 AM Radio, and a Robert J. and Abby B. Levine Fellow at the Middle East Forum. He is the author of two award-winning books: Chasing a Mirage: The Tragic Illusion of an Islamic State and The Jew is Not My Enemy: Unveiling the Myths that Fuel Muslim Anti-Semitism.

EXAMPLE 2.

See what the young adults who have been trained in mosques and in the home go on to hate and commit violence against others:
Foreign jihadists flock to Iraq, Syria on 'unprecedented scale': UN
.
London (AFP) - Jihadists from more than 80 countries have flocked to fight in Iraq and Syria on an "unprecedented scale", according to extracts of a UN report published by Britain's Guardian newspaper on Friday.
Around 15,000 people have travelled to fight alongside Islamic State (IS) and other hardcore militant groups from "countries that have not previously faced challenges relating to al-Qaeda," said the report.
The number of foreign jihadists travelling to fight since 2010 exceeds the cumulative total of the 20 preceding years "many times", added the Security Council study.
"There are instances of foreign terrorist fighters from France, the Russian Federation and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland operating together," it said, according to the Guardian.
Britain's top police officer, Bernard Hogan-Howe, estimated last week that five people a week were leaving the country to fight with IS. Security officials estimate that there are currently around 500 British nationals fighting in Syria and Iraq.
The UN warned that more nations than ever face the problem of dealing with fighters returning from the battle zone.
The report was produced by a committee that monitors al-Qaeda, and concluded that the once mighty and feared group was now "maneuvering for relevance" following the rise of the even more militant IS, which was booted out of al-Qaeda by leader Ayman al-Zawahiri.
Despite the split, the UN concluded that the legal basis for US President Barack Obama's fight against IS was justified by its ideological congruence with al-Qaeda, and considered the two groups as part of a broader movement.
"Al-Qaeda core and Isil (IS) pursue similar strategic goals, albeit with tactical differences regarding sequencing and substantive differences about personal leadership," the UN wrote.
Obama has vowed he will not order a large force into combat in Iraq or Syria, relying instead on air power and local forces.
But his "no boots on the ground" pledge is coming under pressure amid growing calls for advisers and forward air controllers to deploy with Iraqi or Kurdish soldiers to help direct air raids and plan operations.
The IS group's "cosmopolitan" use of social media, "as when extremists post kitten photographs", was attracting a new breed of foreign fighters who are put off by the more dogmatic communication tactics of al-Qaeda, said the report.
IS leaders recognise "the terror and recruitment value of multichannel, multi-language social and other media messaging," it added.
The UN agreed with the Obama administration that "core al-Qaeda remains weak", but argued that its demise had only paved the way for more bloody groups, for whom "cross-border attacks – or attacks against international targets – remain a minority."
[source - retrieved from http://news.yahoo.com/foreign-jihadists-flock-iraq-syria-un… on 10/31/2014]

CONCLUSION:
Muslim faith based schools NEVER should be permitted as good public schools that are not racist and do not teach hate and a love for violence are needed for these youths as society’s last chance to civilize them with respect NOT hating others, NOT lusting for violence, etc. And to teach them a respect for others and their rights and property.
FURTHER INFORMATION:
Many members of Islam keep clamoring for state funded Muslim schools, and state lofty reasons for them such as the following I received in an email fromLondon School of Islamics Trust, as follows:
<<” There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism…”>>
Reality in every nation where there are many Muslim schools the only outcome is intolerance towards others, violence, and sexual atrocities. Definitely what no nation needs. Just look at Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, etc., and you will readily see the outcome is NOT good. As to tolerance, it does not exist and others are persecuted daily. Violence is perennial and daily.
In fact is the U.K. even 5 th. Generation members of Islam have maintained a Prima Donna relationship to society and have failed to integrate; whereas, other religious groups such as the Sikhs, Jains, Hindus, etc. have. Instead their members have bombed buses, subways, murdered U.K. soldiers, and made the areas where they live into dangerous ‘no-go’ areas in London and other major cities.
Of course, there are good people among them – those who have NOT been mislead by their religious leaders.
So they should NEVER be granted their own state supported schools until they join/integrate into main stream U.K. society. You will see why in my three pieces of evidence when I state in brackets, do we want this in the U.K.?
Now let’s look at proofs/evidence to back up what I say with respect the outcome of Muslim education has been in many places – 3 outcome will be presented.
OUTCOME 1, PUSHED BY MUSLIM RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN EGYPT:
Islam in action against women due to education by their religious leaders.
Rape in Egypt: The Muslim Brotherhood 'Gets Even'
by Raymond Ibrahim
Human Events
June 18, 2014
http://www.meforum.org/4731/muslim-brotherhood-rape
Muslim Brotherhood sympathizers recently went on a sexual assault and rape spree in Egypt as a way of "getting even" with those women who dared to celebrate the presidential victory of Abdel Fatteh al-Sisi—the former army chief who overthrew Muslim Brotherhood rule in Egypt.
On June 8, when tens of thousands of Egyptians congregated in Tahrir Square to celebrate Sisi's inauguration, dozens of women were sexually assaulted and many more harassed. According to a statement later released by the Ministry of Interior, seven men between the ages of 15 and 49 were arrested for sexually assaulting "a number of women."
One 19-year-old female student was especially brutalized—and videotaped as she was stripped naked and sexually assaulted by a throng of men. (I saw the graphic video on YouTube, though it has since been removed; a much less graphic clip of the initial assault appears here.) A gun-waving police officer eventually managed to rescue the woman from her ordeal, though after sustaining injuries himself. [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Sexually harassing or raping those supportive of Sisi by way of "retribution" is not uncommon in Egypt. Earlier, a six-year-old boy was raped by a Muslim Brotherhood member who was "angered" at the child for singing praises to Sisi. He lured the boy into a shed, locked the doors, and proceeded to rape him, while saying, "You're always holding pictures of this Sisi and singing his praises. Come, I'll humiliate and break you—and your Sisi."
Although Western media never specify who is behind these sexual assaults—often citing "the mob"—Hala Sarhan, a popular TV host in Egypt alluded to the ultimate source that legitimizes sexual harassment and rape in Egypt, namely, Islamist preachers and leaders: [do we want this in the U.K.?]
What was said to these people [rapists] to brainwash them into think that such violations on the person and body of this young girl [the aforementioned rape victim] were permissible? … I'll tell you. The one in parliament who said this, is the same as the man who did that… And the one who told that girl that she is an infidel, is the same as the one in parliament who said that it's permissible to marry a 9-year-old girl [based on the prophet of Islam's example when he married the girl-child Aisha]. The ones who in the mosques told him that they [women] are in the pits of hell and the lures of Satan—adulteresses, that Satan lives in their bodies… This is what they tell them in the mosques! And they're so upset now [Islamist preachers] because they can no longer continue to preach like this in the mosques! We thank you minister of religious endowments for stopping this mockery! [The new Egyptian government has cracked down on radical preachers.] Before [under Morsi], every guy that yelled and stomped got himself a pulpit to preach such thoughts into the minds of the youth—and then they went out thinking they are doing jihad. You see, they have this thing in their mind that says "If we curse or attack an infidel, that is jihad"…. Concerning the previous cases of sexual harassment, they [Islamist authorities] told people, "Why did she [any violated woman] leave her house in the first place? She deserves what she got!" They told them, "Your sister needs to be circumcised"; told them, "In the house, beat her and discipline her, break her bones; and if she refuses to have sex with you, saying she's tired or sick, curse her with the angels till the sun rises." We allowed these people to fill their minds with such ideas! [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Such honesty is reminiscent of an Egyptian op-ed that appeared after a young Coptic woman was murdered by a pro-Brotherhood mob because they identified her as a Christian:
Those who killed the young and vulnerable Mary Sameh George, for hanging a cross in her car, are not criminals, but rather wretches who follow those who legalized for them murder, lynching, dismemberment, and the stripping bare of young Christian girls—without every saying "kill." [Islamic cleric] Yassir Burhami and his colleagues who announce their hate for Christians throughout satellite channels and in mosques—claiming that hatred of Christians is synonymous with love for Allah—they are the true killers who need to be tried and prosecuted.
At any rate, using sexual harassment and rape to force people to comply with Islamist agendas has a long history, especially in Egypt. In 2011, during the "Arab Spring," when the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamists were released from prison, legitimized and eventually rose to power, sexual harassment skyrocketed, as one graph showed. Moreover, UN research done in 2013, when Morsi was president, suggested that 99.3% of Egyptian women had experienced sexual harassment. [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Indeed, in February, 2013, hundreds of Egyptian women took to the streets of Tahrir Square to protest this nonstop harassment. They held slogans like "Silence is unacceptable, my anger will be heard," and "A safe square for all; Down with sexual harassment." "Marchers also shouted chants against President Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood group from which he hails," wrote Al Ahram Online.
The response was more sexual harassment and rapes. One woman was gang-raped for approximately 20 minutes and nearly died. And as Hala Sarhan pointed out, elements from the then Islamist-heavy government under Morsi blamed the women themselves, saying that:
women taking part in protests bear the responsibility of being sexually harassed, [and] describing what happens in some demonstrators' tents as "prostitution." Major General Adel Afify, member of the committee representing the Salafi Asala Party, criticized female protesters, saying that they "know they are among thugs. They should protect themselves before requesting that the Interior Ministry does so. By getting herself involved in such circumstances, the woman has 100 percent responsibility."
Likewise, popular Salafi preacher Abu Islam sarcastically blamed the victims:
"They tell you women are a red line. They tell you that naked women [i.e., not wearing veils or hijabs]—who are going to Tahrir Square because they want to be raped—are a red line! And they ask Morsi and the Brotherhood to leave power!" Abu Islam added that these women activists are going to Tahrir Square not to protest but to be sexually abused because they had wanted to be raped. "They have no shame, no fear and not even feminism. Practice your feminism, sheikha! It is a legitimate right for you to be a woman," he said. "And by the way, 90 percent of them are crusaders [i.e. Christian Copts] and the remaining 10 percent are widows who have no one to control them. You see women talking like monsters," he added. [do we want this in the U.K.?]
The only silver lining in this cloud of Islamist rape that hovers over Egypt is that the differences between Morsi and his Brotherhood government, and Sisi and the post-Brotherhood government, are already apparent. In response to the endemic sexual harassment in Egypt, the new government passed a law criminalizing all forms of sexual harassment… A new article, which has been issued into power, adds a harsh punishment to those found guilty of unwanted sexual contact…. Other amended laws, under article 306, declare that those found guilty of verbal sexual harassment in a private or public place will be sentenced to a minimum of six months in prison and fined no less than EGP 3,000 ( 420).
When I recently asked some analyst colleagues in Egypt if Morsi ever took any such measures against sexual harassment, the quip I received most was along the lines of "Take measures? He was the one ordering sexual harassment against his female critics."
Still, and in keeping with Western MSM journalism, Sisi, who at least appears to be trying to take some measures against sexual harassment, is now being portrayed by the Guardian in a cynical light—while Morsi who did nothing and whose Islamist allies were responsible for inciting violence against women got a free pass—just like the New York Times recently tried to blame Sisi for the plight of Egypt's religious minorities, without mentioning that it was often Morsi and the Islamists who put them there in the first place.
Raymond Ibrahim, author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam's New War on Christians (Regnery, April, 2013) is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum.
THE REALITY:
If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.
Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.
Now let’s look at one such religion that tries to escape their responsibility for cleaning house so to speak.
ISLAM FAILS TO CLEAN HOUSE:
Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions upon themselves. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. And as previously stated, ‘Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.’
OUTCOME 2, ISLAM IS INTOLERANT OF OTHERS AND DENIES THEM THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS:
REALITY, They openly commit crimes against humanity with respect to their intolerance in regards to Christians, read reality, the evidence.
Islam: 'Appalling and Abhorrent' in the Eyes of a Blind World?
by Raymond Ibrahim
Human Events
May 21, 2014
http://www.meforum.org/3829/islam-apostasy-christians
A few days ago in Sudan, an eight-month pregnant wife and mother was sentenced to death by hanging for refusing to renounce Christ and embrace Islam. According to theLA Times:
The court also ordered Ibrahim to be flogged for having sexual relations with her husband, since her marriage is not recognized by officials.
Ibrahim refused a court order Sunday giving her several days to renounce her Christian faith, which resulted in the sentencing Thursday….
Ibrahim, currently jailed with her son, will be allowed to give birth and raise her second child until the age of 2 years but then faces execution. Sudanese authorities refuse to allow Ibrahim's son [an American citizen] to reside with her husband because the husband is Christian.
Tragic as this story is, it is also immensely commonplace in Islamic countries. Why? Because Islamic law does in fact punish the apostate from Islam—including with death—in accordance with the commands of the Muslim prophet Muhammad. Indeed, many Muslim clerics believe that "If the [death] penalty for apostasy was ignored, there would not be an Islam today; Islam would have ended on the death of the prophet," as top Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi once declared on live television.
Of more significance is the Amnesty International statement concerning Meriam Ibrahim's plight. While its criticism is aimed at Sudan's legal system, the statement unwittingly provides a glimpse of how the international community would view Islam if it could actually understand that these human rights abuses are not products of this or that government or regime, but of Islam itself.
According to the Amnesty International statement:
The fact that a woman has been sentenced to death for her religious choice, and to flogging for being married to a man of an allegedly different religion is appalling and abhorrent.
Adultery and apostasy are acts which should not be considered crimes at all. It is flagrant breach of international human rights law. The right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, which includes the freedom to hold beliefs, is far-reaching and profound; it encompasses freedom of thought on all matters, personal conviction and the commitment to religion or belief (emphasis added).
If, as Amnesty International declares, flogging and executing a person, in this case a pregnant woman, because of her "religious choice" and marrying a man of a "different religion" are "appalling and abhorrent"; if they are a "flagrant breach of international human rights law"—what do we make of the fact that Muslim converts to Christianity are punished and sometimes killed all across the Islamic world?
Consider the following anecdotes, a few examples, most from 2013 alone (culled from my monthly "Muslim Persecution of Christians" series and listed in country alphabetical order):
Afghanistan: A member of Afghanistan's Parliament said that all Afghans who convert to Christianity should be executed. His exact words: "Afghani citizens continue to convert to Christianity in India.
Numerous Afghanis have become Christians in India. This is an offense to Islamic Laws and according to the Quran they need to be executed." As one of many live examples, Said Musa, an amputee and father of six young children, was once charged with apostasy and pressured to renounce Christianity, but he refused. So he was imprisoned, suffering "sexual abuse, beatings, mockery, and sleep deprivation because of his faith in Jesus."
Algeria: The wife of Ali Touahir, a 52-year-old Muslim convert to Christianity, left him, taking their seven-year-old daughter, and is divorcing him in court. One of his wife's brothers openly threatened to kill apostate. The wife's lawyer asserted: "It is not possible that my client [the Muslim wife] still remain under the same roof with a man who has renounced his religion, as he became apostate; and we are not ignorant of the punishment that is due an apostate under sharia [death]."
Cameroon: Two Muslim converts to Christianity were shot dead and two others wounded, in the Christian-majority African nation where Muslims make approximately 20 percent of the population. One of them was previously threatened by the Nigerian Islamic terrorist group Boko Haram to return to Islam or "face Allah's wrath." [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Egypt: A court sentenced an entire family—Nadia Mohamed Ali and her seven children—to fifteen years in prison for converting to Christianity. A born Christian, Nadia had earlier converted to Islam and married a Muslim man; reconverting back to Christianity after the death of her husband, she attempted to reflect this change formally on her identity card and her children's, which created suspicions among security, who arrested the family. Separately and days ago in Egypt, after a former Muslim woman on live television announced her apostasy and lack of faith in Muhammad as the "Messenger of Allah," she was insulted, ridiculed, and thrown off the set by the host.
Iran: Imprisoned American pastor Saeed Abedini was reported as "facing physical and psychological torture at the hands of captors demanding he renounce his beliefs." The 32-year-old married father of two, who left his home in Boise, Idaho, to help start an orphanage in his former country, once detailed "horrific pressures" and "death threats" in a letter to family members: "My eyes get blurry, my body does not have the strength to walk, and my steps become very weak and shaky… They are only waiting for one thing…for me to deny Christ. But they will never get this from me." The imprisonment and torture of Muslim converts to Christianity in Iran is quite common (recall the plight of Pastor Yousef Nadarkhani). According to Adnkronos News, "renouncing the Muslim faith is punishable with the death penalty [in Iran]. Over 300 Iranian converts to Christianity have been arrested over the past two years, according to opposition websites." [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Kyrgyz: After a young Muslim girl converted to Christianity, her parents "wanted her to recant and renounce her faith in Christ, so they began to beat her systematically till she lost consciousness… It was winter when all of this happened, so her parents put her into a cold room and kept her there for several days. Still they were unable to break her spirit. They then started pulling her hair and put her face against the stove, burning her face. In spite of this, she remained faithful."
Morocco: A fatwa, or Islamic decree, by the government's top religious authority, calls for the execution of those Muslims who leave Islam, causing many Christian converts to live in fear. Lamented one Christian: "The fatwa showed us that our country is still living in the old centuries—no freedom, no democracy. Unfortunately, we feel that we aren't protected. We can be arrested or now even killed any time and everywhere. The majority of the Christian Moroccan leaders have the same feeling. We are more followed now by the secret police than before. Only the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ gives us courage and peace." [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Pakistan: A 16-year-old Muslim boy who converted to Christianity was abducted in Peshawar by Taliban-linked Islamic militants "and his fate may already be marked, as he is considered 'guilty of apostasy.'" As one Pakistani pastor explained, "If a young Muslim converts to Christianity in Pakistan, he is forced to live in hiding. Every Muslim might feel compelled to kill him. The change of religion is not punished by the civil law, it is punishable by Islamic law. For this reason cases of Muslim conversion to Christianity are very rare and some convert in secret." Muhammad Kamran, a Muslim convert to Christianity, exemplifies the pastor's words. After he told his wife of his conversion, she abused and exposed him, resulting in his being severely beaten by local Muslims. In his words: "No one was willing to let me live the life I wanted [as a Christian]—they say Islam is not a religion of compulsion, but no one has been able to tell me why Muslims who don't find satisfaction in the religion [such as myself] become liable to be killed." [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Saudi Arabia: After a woman was exposed as having converted to Christianity, she was sentenced to six years in prison and 300 lashes. Although she managed to flee the nation and went into hiding, the Christian Lebanese man accused of introducing her to Christianity received six years in prison and 300 lashes.
Somalia: The Al-Qaeda linked Al Shabaab ("The Youth"), which has vowed to cleanse the Horn of Africa of all Christian presence, has slaughtered countless Muslim converts to Christianity—men, women, and children—in the last few years. Most recently, Al Shabaab shot to death 42-year-old Fartun Omar, a widow and mother of five, for converting to Christianity. Months earlier, they had killed her husband for the same "crime," and had been hunting for the wife. In a separate incident, Al Shabaab publicly executed a 28-year-old man after determining that he had in fact become a Christian. Al Shabaab Muslims also seized Hassan Gulled, 25, for leaving Islam and converting to Christianity, andimprisoned him, and tortured him. According to local sources, "Al Shabaab have been torturing him to see whether he would deny his Christian faith. Since last week, no information has surfaced concerning Gulled. There is a possibility that he could have been killed." [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Tanzania: At the time pregnant and with three children, Lukia Khalid explained how when she told her Muslim husband that she had converted to Christianity, "He threatened to kill me if I was to stay with him. I then decided to escape that night with my three children to a neighbor's house…. We left only with the clothes that we were wearing. The command was so urgent that we could not wait any longer. We had to leave immediately." Last heard, they were living in destitute conditions.
One can go on and on with examples (see Crucified Again: Exposing Islam's New War on Christians, pages 96-135, for a more thorough expose, including on the doctrine and history of apostasy in Islam, and dozens of more recent examples).
Returning to Meriam Ibrahim, the pregnant Sudanese mother set to be executed for refusing to recant Christ and embrace Islam, some questions and observations are in order:
Are all the other anecdotes listed above not equally "appalling and abhorrent"—to use Amnesty International's words describing Meriam's specific plight? Are they not all a "flagrant breach of international human rights law"?
If so, and if the international community is actually serious about putting a stop to them, should it not try to ascertain the true source behind them?
After all, considering that Muslim converts to Christianity are being attacked all throughout the Islamic world—including in nations as diverse as Algeria, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, and Kyrgyz—surely the source is not something as simple as "Sudan's legal system."
The fact is, Muslim converts to Christianity are even under attack in Europe. In Norway alone, for example, two Iranian converts out for a walk were stabbed with knives by masked men shouting "infidels!" One of the men stabbed had converted in Iran, was threatened there, and immigrated to Norway, thinking he could escape Islam's apostasy penalty. Earlier, an Afghan convert to Christianity was scalded with boiling water and acid at a Norwegian refugee processing center: "If you do not return to Islam, we will kill you," his attackers told him.
Of course, the true source for all these attacks on Muslim converts to Christianity—in nations that do not share race, language, culture, politics, or economics—is Islam itself. Anyone with common sense, anyone with the ability to be honest with oneself, must concede as much. There is no other reasonable way to explain such identical patterns of abuse in such a wide array of nations. [do we want this in the U.K.?]
But so long as the international community and human rights organizations fail to employ some common sense and honesty—fail to call a spade a spade—so will they ensure that countless more innocent humans like Meriam Ibrahim continue to suffer "appalling and abhorrent" treatment, simply for trying to exercise their "right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion" under Islam.
Raymond Ibrahim, author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam's New War on Christians (Regnery, April, 2013) is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum.
Related Topics: Anti-Christianism, Islam, Radical Islam | Raymond IbrahimThis text may be reposted or forwarded so long as it is presented as an integral whole with complete and accurate information provided about its author, date, place of publication, and original URL.
OUTCOME 3, ISLAM’S TREATMENT OF NON-ISLAMIC WOMEN WORSE THAN NAZI GERMANY:
Islam, Slavery and Rape
May 9, 2014 by Jamie Glazov 21 Comments
Jamie Glazov is Frontpage Magazine's editor. He holds a Ph.D. in History with a specialty in Russian, U.S. and Canadian foreign policy. He is the author of the critically acclaimed and best-selling, United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror. His new book is High Noon For America. He is the host of Frontpage’s television show, The Glazov Gang, and he can be reached at jamieglazov11@gmail.com. Visit his site atJamieGlazov.com.
Boko Haram’s leader Abubakar Shekau recently made a video in which he taunted the mothers of the girls he kidnapped and bragged, while praising Allah, how he will sell them on the market. [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Frontpage editors have decided to shed light on the Islamic context of Shekau’s barbaric acts and words by reprinting a segment of an interviewfrom our November 23, 2007 issue, in which Dr. Bill Warner discussed the inspiration and sanctioning that Muslims find in Islam for slavery and rape:
Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman forpoliticalislam.com.CSPI’s goal is to teach the doctrine of political Islam through its books and it has produced an eleven book series on political Islam. Mr. Warner did not write the CSPI series, but he acts as the agent for a group of scholars who are the authors. The Center’s latest book is The Submission of Women and Slaves, Islamic Duality.
FP: Bill Warner, welcome back to Frontpage Magazine. This is the second part in our two-part series with you on the Center’s most recent book. In the first part we discussed Islam and its doctrine on the submission of women. In this second and final part we will discuss the matter of slavery.
Warner: It is a pleasure to work with Frontpage.
FP: So tell us in general where Islam stands on slavery.
Warner: Islam’s stand on slavery is based on its political principles of submission and duality. The principle of submission could not be clearer. By definition a slave is the most submissive of all people. You become a slave only when you have no more choices. A slave has completely submitted to a master.
The principle of duality is shown by the fact that Islam does not enslave Muslims, only kafirs (non-Muslims). Since only kafirs are enslaved, it assures that more of the world submits to Islam.
Islamic slavery is based on the Trilogy of the Koran, the Sira (Mohammed’s life) and the Hadith (the Traditions of Mohammed). All three texts say that slavery is permitted, ethical, desirable and a virtue. There is not one single negative word about slavery.
Slavery is seen as a process that brings kafirs to Islam. It is a virtue to free slaves, but Mohammed only freed slaves who submitted to Islam. If the kafir slave does not submit, then their children will. So given enough time, slaves convert to Islam. That is one of the reasons that Islam sees slavery as a positive. [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Of course, there is another reason that Islam sees slavery as being so “good” and that is the money. Mohammed and the other jihadists made a fortune out of enslaving kafirs. Mohammed used the money for more jihad. So slavery financed the spread of Islam and jihad from the beginning. [Muhammad should be tried posthumously for his crimes to show the world how bad his crimes against humanity were.]
FP: What were the ingredients of Mohammed’s own life in terms of slavery?
Warner: Mohammed is the perfect pattern for all humanity and his life was saturated in slavery. When his mother died, it was a freed slave who nursed him. His first wife owned slaves. One of his first converts was a slave. His closest friend, Abu Bakr, traded one of his black kafir slaves for a Muslim who was enslaved by a kafir.
But all of this was small change compared to his envolvement with slavery once he turned to jihad. In his first major battle at Badr, he stood by and prayed as his henchmen beat and tortured captured slaves to get information about the enemy kafirs.
Slaves made Mohammed’s pulpit. Slaves mended his cloths, cooked his food, and did every thing that a slave does for the master. He gave away slaves as gifts and received them as gifts. He went to war to kill the males so that the remaining people would surrender to be sold as slaves. Mohammed sold slaves on both the retail and wholesale markets.
He offered captured slaves their freedom if they would first agree that he was the prophet of Allah. A kafir slave then became a slave of Allah, because all Muslims are slaves of Allah. For a slave, the religion of Mohammed started and ended with slavery.
FP: Can you talk a bit about Islam and sexual slavery?
Warner: All morality in Islam is patterned after the example of Mohammed. Everything that he did and said defines what is permitted or “good”. Mohammed repeatedly sanctioned forced sex (rape) with kafir females after they were captured. The Hadith clearly reports that he got first choice of the women. In one case, he repeatedly demanded one particular woman for himself and swapped two other kafir slave women for his choice. So if Mohammed was involved in the rape of kafirs, then rape is a virtue, not a sin or error. [do we want this in the U.K.?]
When Mohammed destroyed the B. Qurayza tribe, all of the adult male Jews were beheaded, so that no husbands were left. Mohammed then took the children and gave them to Muslims to raise as Muslims and he sold off the Jewish women as slaves.
We know from another story that the women were divided into sex slaves and domestic slaves. In one scene, a jihadist is trying to obtain a high ransom for a woman and he is told that her breasts are flat and her mouth is cold, so her value was less. In short, she was only good for work around the house, not in the bedroom.
The Hadith tells of another story where the Muslims used coitus interruptus to avoid impregnating the kafir sex slaves. The reason was purely for business. If the kafir sex slave was pregnant, then she was worth less money.
Islamic doctrine says that kafir women should not be used for prostitutes, only for the pleasure of the master.
When Mohammed attacked the Jews at Khaybar, many moral precedents were set. Sexual slavery received an entire set of rules. Muslims were not to rape pregnant or menstruating women until they had delivered the child or finished their periods. At Khaybar, Mohammed’s god Allah, announced that even married women were fair game for rape.
Mohammed only killed some of the Jews at Khaybar. The male and female survivors were needed to work the land as dhimmis. (The original dhimmis were semi-slaves with no civil rights. Today, dhimmis are ignorant kafirs who apologize for Islam.) Since Islam needed the men to work, husbands were left alive. That was the reason that the Koran said that in this case, even with the husbands looking on, it was good to rape the women. [do we want this in the U.K.?]
Sexual slavery was not only fun and profitable for the Muslim men, but rape was a powerful tactic of war, then and today. The women are forced into submission to Muslim men and the husbands are humiliated. Humiliated men are weakened men, so more kafirs were less able to resist Islam.
For some time Mohammed’s favorite sex partner was a Christian slave from Egypt named Mary. One of Mohammed’s wives caught him in some state of intimacy with Mary in the wife’s bedroom and raised hell. Mohammed promised to not do it again and moved Mary to her own apartment in Medina.
Mohammed had received Mary and her sister as gifts. He gave her sister away to a Muslim poet. He was used to giving away sex slaves. He gave several of his top lieutenants kafir sex slaves. Umar, who later became caliph, gave his sex slave to his son. [As an aside, when he was caliph, his son got drunk and Umar beat him to death.]
FP: This institution of Islamic sexual slavery isn’t just a reality of the past is it?
Warner: Everything that has been said up to now is not only history; it is Sunna (the example of the perfect pattern of action and morality found in Mohammed). So today we don’t have a beautiful blonde Christian girl on the block in Mecca, but we have continuous and ongoing rapes by Muslims in kafir cities. This goes on everywhere that Islam goes because it is Sunna.
This is a continuous 1400-year history of jihad. In every detailed history that comes from the original documents from history, rape is a constant. You have to look in the original documents, since our historians refuse to report it in so-called history books.
Rape is Sunna. Rape is not a sin. Rape is permitted and encouraged by Mohammed and the Koran. Islam is the only political system in the world that includes rules for rape and war. Rape is jihad. How good can it get? A Muslim gets to rape a kafir girl and get heaven credits. All jihad is a ticket to Paradise.
The most disgusting aspect of the Islamic rape of kafirs is not the rapes, but the kafir response. Kafirs become dhimmis by ignoring the rapes. I challenge you to find one, even one, mention of Islamic rape in the history books.
Islamic rape is more taboo than the N-word in the media. At least the N-word is acknowledged to exist. Even unicorns exist in media fantasy. But Islamic rape is forbidden to even exist as a fantasy.
And to reach a fevered rant: our so-called “feminist” scholars are absolutely intellectually and morally bankrupt hypocrites. They are traitors to our culture and a shame and a disgrace. They remain silent in the face of heinous crimes against women. They are arch-dhimmis when they refuse to speak of the Sunna, history and current rapes of our daughters, mothers, and sisters. [source - retrieved fromhttp://www.frontpagemag.com/…/jamie…/islam-slavery-and-rape/ on 6/20/2014]
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ISLAM’S MISTREATMENT OF WOMEN BY FMG AND FAILURE TO GIVE THEM TRUE JUSTICE:

One Muslim apologist said female genital mutilation (FMG) predates Islam, and on that he was correct. However , that is NO JUSTIFICATION for anyone practicing it any more than rape by rape gangs, adultery, lack of justice for women, stealing, murder, etc. which all predate Islam. Yet all are practiced by modern Muslims with impunity except maybe adultery without ANY ACTION being taken by Muslim religious authorities.

That fact alone should tell you Islam is definitely a false religion that all should be honest with themselves and get out of her, and become genuine true followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ, the Son of Almighty God (YHWH).

Worse yet, Islam as one of its foundations puts forth one of the greatest lies there is, and I have even seen pictures of Muslims carrying signs in Arabic containing this terrible lie, let’s look at the facts which I have amplified in great detail so you can see the truth:

ISLAM IS BASED ON A BIG LIE THAT DISHONORS THE TRUE ALMIGHTY GOD, it does NOT honour the only true God, Almighty God (YHWH), the creator of Heaven and Earth and all there is. kThey instead say, ‘there is no god but Allah,’ which is nothing but a bold face outright lie. For details, go to, http://religioustruths.lefora.com/topic/19397827/ISLAM-BASED-BIG-LIE-DISHONORS-TRUE-ALMIGHTY-GOD-YHWH#.VKQhv9LF9TM

NOW WITH RESPECT FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION (FMG):

FIRST, with respect female genital mutilation (FGM) it is something done by Muslims in the U.K. (United Kingdom). It is done in secret without notifying the authorities and of course the authorities find it difficult to suppress just as they do illegal drug usage. It is NOT the authorities, but Muslims that are responsible for this reprehensible practice that they inherited from earlier civilizations.

SECOND, Fellow Muslims well know about this practice but have failed to stop it, and have given tacit approval to same. The proof for this, is that NO MUSLIM CLERIC has ever excommunicated any one from Islam for its practice. I have written an article covering how Muslim clerics including country Muftis have failed to take action on this and other well known Muslim acts such as ‘honour killings.’ Let’s look at that:

Guilt Comes On Organizations That Fail To Clean House Of The Wicked Ones:

INTRODUCTION:

First, The world we live in is ruled by the wicked one as testified to by 1 John 5:19, “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV). If we pick up a newspaper in any country, we find reports of cruelty and violence on an unprecedented scale. Man’s inhumanity to man is troubling for a righteous person to contemplate as testified to at Ecclesiastes 8:9, “All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.” (AV).

Second, Most individuals and/or groups seek to avoid responsibility for their own actions rather than take corrective actions. This also applies to so called religious groups that seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for the wrong actions of members, but fail, willingly, to take action against these wrong doers by purging themselves of these wicked ones.

THE REALITY:
If a religion fails to clean house of evil and wicked men when they are discovered, and especially of evil and wicked men/women taking the lead in a congregation, and/or congregations such as Pastors, Ministers, Sheiks, Imams, Bishops, Cardinals, Etc., then the religion is responsible for their wrong doing. Some religions such as Islam have never cleaned house of evil and wicked individuals when they are discovered and that religion has been violent since its beginning, and many of its members lust for violence in such acts as beheading of others, suscide bombers, makers of IEDs, etc. do to the teachings of their groups religious leaders. One notable example of an evil and wicked individual Islam well knows of who is a leader of a large group of members of Islam is Sheik Osama bin Ladin. Of course, Islam, is NOT the only religion that fails to take effective action against evil and wicked individuals and leaders of groups among them, another is the Catholic and Angalican churches that for many years just moved pedophiles to a new congregation when they were uncovered as the world's news media has so well identified. Groups seeking to keep themselves clean of evil and wicked individuals that sneak into their group take the appropriate action; to wit, they throw them out.
Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.
Now let’s look at one such religion that tries to escape their responsibility for cleaning house so to speak.

ISLAM FAILS TO CLEAN HOUSE:

Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions upon themselves. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. And as previously stated, ‘Now many religions seek to escape reality by claiming they have no provisions within their religion for purging out these wicked ones, but this is no excuse since it is their failure to provide measures for purging out these wicked ones and no one else’s.’

CONCLUSION:

Many are just fooling themself, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions. It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say. People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders. Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope (Pope Innocent III (1160 or 1161 – 16 July 1216)), what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but what their religious leaders told them. Therefore, it is the religion which is at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say. Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders. Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it. Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian.
Likewise the failure to clean house of evil ones puts their wrongs directly upon the organization failing to throw out evil/wicked ones when they are found out.

THIRD, You yourself denounced this practice, and correctly so. However, you fail to leave an organization, Islam, many of whose members practice this wicked act. Why is this the case?

Let’s look at some of the realities, including how prevalent it is in the U.K. almost exclusively among British Muslims and/or Muslims living in the U.K. You do NOT see any genuine followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ practicing it, and probably no Counterfeit Christians either. But let’s look at the practice in a little more detail:

How many Muslims treat their young women – the REALITY.
100,000 women undergo brutal genital mutilation illegally in Britain (and some of the victims are as young as TEN)

* Police have failed to bring forward a single conviction

* Only two doctors have ever been struck off by the General Medical Council

* Victims often suffer in silence and sometimes battle to stand or walk

* One doctor offered to perform the procedure on a 10-year-old girl for £750

By Pamela Owen
PUBLISHED: 04:26 EST, 22 April 2012 | UPDATED: 07:44 EST, 22 April 2012

* As many as 100,000 women in Britain have undergone female genital mutilations with medics in the UK offering to carry out the illegal procedure on girls as young as 10, it has been reported.

* Investigators from The Sunday Times said they secretly filmed a doctor, dentist and alternative medicine practitioner who were allegedly willing to perform circumcisions or arrange for the operation to be carried out.
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* The doctor and dentist deny any wrongdoing.
The practice, which involves the surgical removal of external genitalia and in some cases the stitching of the vaginal opening, is illegal in Britain and carries up to a 14 year prison sentence.
It is also against the law to arrange FGM in the U.K., but Muslims do it anyway. Why are they NOT good law abiding people?

Supermodel turned UN ambassador Waris Dirie was mutilated aged 5
Research suggests that every year up to 6,000 girls in London are at risk of the potentially fatal procedure, and more than 22,000 in the UK as a whole.

The Metropolitan Police said since 2008, it had received 166 reports of people who fear they are at risk of FGM but it has failed to bring forward a single perpetrator. Why? Because they are afraid of being accused as islamphobic.

It is the same for all 43 forces across England and Wales with no convictions for the offence ever taking place.
Only two doctors have ever been struck off by The General Medical Council since 1980.

The Sunday Times uncovered a respected dentist who was prepared to circumcise two girls, aged 10 and 13 and a GP who referred an undercover reporter to the dentist.

They also spoke to a supplier who deals in alternative medicine who offered to circumcise a 10 year-old girl for £750.

A midwife in Birmingham also said she had seen the number of mutilations in the area treble since 2002.

Alison Byrne, a specialist midwife at the Birmingham's Heartlands hospital who has helped pioneer treatment for women suffering from the condition said she has had patients aged between 16 and 40.

She said she had some women who had been left with an opening the size of a matchstick through which to pass urine and menstrual blood.
Ms Byrne added that as a result many of the women developed severe infections and can continuously bleed for days on end.

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She has said there is a huge lack of training and knowledge among medical staff which is causing a serious problem.

Doctors at the hospital now offer a procedure called deinfibulation which involves the removal of scar tissue formed by the cutting of the clitoris.
It is offering hope to dozens of women affected by the condition.
It is also estimated that one in 20 women in parts of London are victims of the practice.[

Minister for equalities Lynne Featherstone said: 'Female genital mutilation is an abhorrent crime and we are very clear that those found to practice it should feel the full force of the law.'

According to Forward, a charity which campaigners against FGM, an estimated 100,000 women in the UK have undergone mutilation.

Supermodel turned United Nations ambassador Waris Dirie, who was mutilated aged 5 in her home country of Somalia, is a vociferous opponent of the practice.

Calling for a crackdown on FGM, she said: 'If a white girl is abused, the police come break down the door. If a black girl is mutilated, nobody takes care of her. This is what I call racism.'
FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION - THE DIFFERENT TYPES
Majority of FGMs occur in Africa and Middle Eastern countries where it is seen as vital in preserving chastity.

In Somalia, Sudan and parts of Egypt more than 90 per cent of women are forced to go through with the procedure.[[And 90% of the population is Muslim.]]

The first type involves the removal of the clitoris. The second type involves the removal of the clitoris and part of the labia - the outer part of the vagina.

This is the most common and account for about 80 per cent of FGMs.
The third type involves the removal of all external genitalia and stitching of the vaginal opening. Scar tissue eventually develops and only a small hole is left open.

The final type is the most severe and often leaves the women with infections and serious emotional scars.
It involves the cutting and sewing of the vagina and at times the introduction of a foreign substance into the vagina.
[source - retrieved from http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/100-000-women-undergo-brutal-s… on 4/27/2012]

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The Guardian - UK - Extreme Abuse Of Women By Members of Islam
Waris Dirie, a model who campaigns against FGM, said: 'If a white girl is abused, police break down the door. If a black girl is mutilated, no one takes care of her.' Photograph: Joerg Carstensen/EPA

As many as 100,000 women in Britain have undergone female genital mutilations (FGM) with medics in the UK offering to carry out the illegal procedure on girls as young as 10, it has been reported.
Investigators from the Sunday Times said they had secretly filmed a doctor, dentist and alternative medicine practitioner who were allegedly willing to perform FGM or arrange for the operation to be carried out. The doctor and dentist deny any wrongdoing.

The practice, which involves the surgical removal of external genitalia and in some cases the stitching of the vaginal opening, is illegal in Britain and carries up to a 14-year prison sentence. It is also against the law to arrange FGM.

The procedure is widespread across parts of Africa. Victims are rarely given anaesthetic and frequently suffer long-term damage and pain.
Research suggests that every year more than 22,000 girls in the UK and up to 6,000 in London are at risk of the potentially fatal procedure.
The Metropolitan police said that since 2008 it had received 166 reports of people who feared they were at risk of FGM. Across all 43 forces in England and Wales, no one has ever been convicted of the offence, according to the Sunday Times.

The newspaper added that only two doctors had been struck off by the General Medical Council since 1980.
According to Forward, a charity which campaigns against FGM, an estimated 100,000 women in the UK have undergone mutilation.

The model Waris Dirie, who was mutilated as a child, is a vociferous opponent of the practice.

Calling for a crackdown on FGM, she said: "If a white girl is abused, the police come break down the door. If a black girl is mutilated, nobody takes care of her. This is what I call racism." [source - retrieved fromhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/…/female-genital-mutilation-uk-me… on 4/27/2012]

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The silent agony caused by female genital mutilation
Freddy Macha Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:11
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Last weekend ‘The Sunday Times’ headlines screamed about the increasing number of sick immigrant women seeking medical help. “Up to 100,000 women in Britain have undergone brutal sexual mutilations,” the respected paper said following a secret undercover investigation that exposed African doctors offering illegal operations costing £750 per session.
Around ten years ago a Tanzanian High Commission official in London told me the number of registered Tanzanian nationals living in the UK was approximately 100,000.
If we statistically agree that immigrants make less than 30 per cent of the overall population (roughly 60 million Britons) then 100,000 women is quite a large amount. According to BBC, main communities practising female genital mutilation in the UK are from Yemen, Ethiopia, Somalia and Eritrea.

In 2001 World Health Organisation (WHO) estimated at least 138 million women who have been mutilated. Traditionally the practice used to be mostly an African and Middle East affair but because of increased immigration the habit is spreading. No wonder authorities are concerned.
Speaking to Sky News, head of ethics at the British Medical Association, Professor Vivienne Nathanson said pressure to circumcise females as young as ten years old is coming from home countries through grandmothers, aunties and mothers “who massacre these girls.”

The Female Genital Mutilation Act of 2003 states that it is an offence to cut a girl’s genitals (unless medically necessary) and therefore punishable to up to 14 years in jail. What the media in the UK is saying is despite such stern laws, no one has been convicted.

“If a white girl is abused the police come and break down the door. If a black girl is mutilated nobody takes care of her,” Somali model, Waris Dirie told ‘Sunday Times’. Waris (who was herself mutilated as a child) has been campaigning to end female genital mutilation since 1997 as a United Nations ambassador.

And what exactly is female genital mutilation?
Defenders of FGM argue it has lasted thousands of years before even Islam and Christianity were established. So unknown is this tradition that part of the campaign by medical people is to raise awareness of its evil. The major aim of FGM is to reduce sensitivity and make women less sexually excited so that they remain faithful to their spouses.

FGM is divided into four types starting with removal of part of the external female sexual organs. This type of operation accounts for majority of all cases. The third type requires incision of all genitalia and stitching it to leave a tiny opening for urinating and menstrual blood while the fourth one cuts everything and introduces corrosive substances into the vagina. Women campaigners interpret this as male control – although some of the staunchest supporters of the habit are women themselves. A Sierra Leone lady defended the tradition as making a woman “pure and more hygienic.”

Problem is this so-called “hygienic” culture is creating misery and suffering to women- numbers of sick women reporting to be treated in UK clinics is rising. While 109 females reported in 2003, figures had tripled to 317, four years later. Among problems these women experience include taking up to 20 minutes to urinate and cramps caused by prolonged menstruation (up to 28 days) because of blockage.

An FMG clinic in Birmingham (Heartlands) caters independently for women who have suffered this ordeal by performing surgery and repair.
Discussions in forums are hot. Digital Spy Forum last Sunday:
“It does make it impossible for them to ever enjoy sex. Genital mutilation in girls is akin to foot binding of girls in ancient China causing unimaginable pain for a very long period of time, frequent deaths and a lifelong disability.”

Emily 222 wondered:
“Supposedly it is so the girls are pure when they marry! So, God made them impure at birth? God made a mistake in giving the female of the species the same equipment as the male for enjoyment of sex? Just as sickening is that the children’s mothers condone it.”
I once heard the story of a Sudanese woman who fled to Scandinavia. Her husband who travelled regularly to the Middle East would order her genitals to be sealed. On returning the genitals would be re-opened. The same procedure would be repeated when she gave birth. During pregnancy she would be surgically unzipped then after her baby was born, stitched again. This pattern would follow each birth and her husband’s business trips.
Currently almost two thirds of Tanzanian regions practice FGM. When I highlighted the custom a few years ago some readers argued that criticising the ancient, cruel habit is “Europeanisation of our cultures.”
Any thing that applauds torture by calling it “our culture” is similar to the superstitious way Albinos are being murdered for “luck or wealth.” This is not only sinful and morally wrong but contributes to weakening the spirit of our working women-massive contributors to our family and national economies.

Mr Macha is a writer and musician based in London. Blog:www.freddymacha.blogspot.com [source - retrieved fromhttp://thecitizen.co.tz/…/21806-the-silent-agony-caused-by-… on 4/27/2012]

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It is high time that most Muslims in the U.K. stop being ISOLATIONIST and integrate into main stream society and stop practicing female genital mutilation (FGM).
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Reality With Regard Muslim Education and Its Products:

MISTREATMENT OF WOMEN TO THE EXTREME:

[[notice: COWARDLY INDIVIDUAL DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH:

One individual is trying to STOP YOU FROM LEARNING THE TRUTH.

I challenge this disrespectful individual as follows; I herewith challenge any member of Islam or anyone else to show that my facts are in error as they are NOT. I also recommend that all change their ways and become genuine followers of the Prince of Peace, Jesus (Yeshua) Christ who instead of exposing violence as the false prophet Muhammad did, exposes love of fellow man as clearly shown in Matthew 22:37-40, “Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets”

THIS COWARDLY INDIVIDUAL SINCE HE CAN NOT DEAL WITH THE TRUTH KEEPS DELETING MY POST.]]

Turkish girl, 16, buried alive for talking to boys, Robert Tait in Istanbul guardian.co.uk, Thursday 4 February 2010 19.03 GMT Article history, [source - retrieved from http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/04/girl-buried-alive-turkey on 2/06/2010]

Death reopens debate over 'honour' killings in Turkey, which account for half of all the country's murders

Turkish police have recovered the body of a 16-year-old girl they say was buried alive by relatives in an "honour" killing carried out as punishment for talking to boys.

The girl, who has been identified only by the initials MM, was found in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a two-metre hole dug under a chicken pen outside her home in Kahta, in the south-eastern province of Adiyaman.
Police made the discovery in December after a tip-off from an informant, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reported on its website.

The girl had previously been reported missing.

The informant told the police she had been killed following a family "council" meeting.

Her father and grandfather are said to have been arrested and held in custody pending trial. It is unclear whether they have been charged. The girl's mother was arrested but was later released.

Media reports said the father had told relatives he was unhappy that his daughter – one of nine children – had male friends. The grandfather is said to have beaten her for having relations with the opposite sex.

A postmortem examination revealed large amounts of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she had been alive and conscious while being buried. Her body showed no signs of bruising.

The discovery will reopen the emotive debate in Turkey about "honour" killings, which are particularly prevalent in the impoverished south-east.

Official figures have indicated that more than 200 such killings take place each year, accounting for around half of all murders in Turkey.

[[Members of Islam are at it again with regard to ‘honor killings,’ as shown by the above.]]
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Afghan president pardons imprisoned rape victim

Muslim Education Leads To Victim Imprisonment Instead of Perpetrator Imprisonment, what an injustice!

* KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghan President Hamid Karzai is pardoning an Afghan woman serving a 12-year prison sentence for having sex out of wedlock after she was raped by a relative.
* Karzai's office also said the woman and her attacker agreed to marry. That would reverse an earlier decision by the woman, who had previously refused a judge's offer of freedom if she agreed to wed the rapist.
Thursday's statement says Karzai decided to forgive the rest of the woman's sentence after hearing from judicial officials. It's not clear how much time the woman has served.
Her plight was highlighted in a documentary blocked by the European Union because it feared the women profiled would be endangered by its release.
[source - retrieved from http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-president-pardons-imprisoned-rape-victim-170236330.html on 12/01/2011]

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Masjed Soleymaani Hastam -
When I came out of prison I burned the Koran! The hell with their hate religion!"


These are the words of a young girl who called from Iran last night and talked on the air with NITV Satellite TV station located in Los Angeles.

"They killed my friend by inserting a baton into the body until it had reached the liver. God is my witness, these are not some tales, these are the realities of our lives in Iran about what they are doing to us! They won't even let us breathe here. The way they mistreatment us, has caused us to even hate ourselves. Although I was an "A" student, I intentionally failed my exam in retribution-law class of mine in the university because I couldn't agree with it. They whipped us if we didn't do the Islamic praying. They wanted me to respect their flag and I didn't want to because it was Arabic. I told them I'll respect the flag if they would put the word "Khoda" (god's name in Persian) on the flag instead of the "Allah" (the Arabic version of god's name). Thus, they lashed me over 70 times. You won't believe what this regime does to us. I was studying to be a judge but they ruined my life just because I held a flag with a "lion and sun" (Iranian ancient and historical flag) in my hand. After all that torturing and flogging, when they finally released me from prison, I burned the Koran. Although I love to have a child, I am not going to have one because I don't want my baby to be dictated their religion."


Some say, Iranians outside Iran are bunch of cowards and heartless who have their tails between their legs when it comes to defend and echo the voices of their compatriots inside Iran. Others say Iranians outside Iran have become heartless mechanical robots since they been neutered (aghim shodeh) by the regime?s supporters and cohorts outside Iran.

But I don't believe that. I believe most my compatriots are unaware of what really is going on in that country and more and more are becoming aware and active. I know every time more of my compatriots hear the outcries of Iran's sons and daughters within Iran such as this, it further awakens them and their conscience. I know soon my compatriots will rise in an unprecedented unity to liberate their motherland, free 70 million Iranian hostages and crush the tyrants and the anti-Iranian Islamic Regime.

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KABUL, Afghanistan - Eleven-year old Gulsoma lay in a heap on the ground in front of her father-in-law. He told her that if she didn't find a missing watch by the next morning he would kill her. He almost had already. Enraged about the missing watch, Gulsoma's father-in-law had beaten her repeatedly with a stick. She was bleeding from wounds all over her body and her right arm and right foot had been broken.
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Married at the age of four, an Afghan girl was subjected to years of beatings and torture, finally escaping to discover that within all the world's cruelty, there is also some kindness.

KABUL, Afghanistan - Eleven-year old Gulsoma lay in a heap on the ground in front of her father-in-law. He told her that if she didn't find a missing watch by the next morning he would kill her. He almost had already.


Enraged about the missing watch, Gulsoma's father-in-law had beaten her repeatedly with a stick. She was bleeding from wounds all over her body and her right arm and right foot had been broken.



She knew at that moment that if she didn't get away, he would make good on his promise to kill her.

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When I meet her at the Ministry of Women's Affairs I'm surprised that the little girl, now 12, is the same one that had endured such horrible suffering. She is wearing a red baseball cap and an orange scarf. She has beautiful brown eyes and a full and animated smile. She takes one of my hands in both of hers and greets me warmly, without any hint of shyness.


"She looks healthy," says Haroon, my friend and translator. I nod. But she looks older than her years, we both agree. In orphanages - first in Kandahar, then in Kabul - she has had a year to recover from a lifetime's worth of unimaginable imprisonment, deprivation and torture.


In one of the ministry's offices she sits in a straight-backed wooden chair and tells us the story of her life so far. She is stoic for the most part, pausing only a few times to wipe her eyes and nose with her scarf.


Her story begins in the village of Mullah Allam Akhound, near Kandahar.


"When I was three years old my father died, and after a year my mother married again, but her second husband didn't want me," says Gulsoma. "So my mother gave me away in a promise of marriage to our neighbor's oldest son, who was thirty."


"They had a ceremony in which I was placed on a horse [which is traditional in Afghanistan] and given to the man."


Because she was still a child, the marriage was not expected to be sexually consummated. But within a year, Gulsoma learned that so much else would be required of her that she would become a virtual slave in the household.


At the age of five, she was forced to take care of not only her "husband" but also his parents and all 12 of their other children as well.

Though nearly the entire family participated in the abuse, her father-in-law, she says, was the cruelest.


"My father-in-law asked me to do everything - laundry, the household chores - and the only time I was able to sleep in the house was when they had guests over," she says. "Other than that I would have to sleep outside on a piece of carpet without even any blankets. In the summer it was okay. But in the winter a neighbor would come over and give me a blanket, and sometimes some food."


When she couldn't keep up with the workload, Gulsoma says, she was beaten constantly.



Gulsoma's scars


"They beat me with electric wires," she says, "mostly on the legs. My father-in-law told his other children to do it that way so the injuries would be hidden. He said to them, 'break her bones, but don't hit her on the face.'"


There were even times when the family's abuse of Gulsoma transcended the bounds of the most wanton, sadistic cruelty, as on the occasions when they used her as a human tabletop, forcing her to lie on her stomach then cutting their food on her bare back.


Gulsoma says the family had one boy her age, named Atiqullah, who refused to take part in her torture.


"He would sneak me food sometimes and when my mother-in-law told him to find a stick to beat me, he would come back say he couldn't find one," she says. "He would try to stop the others sometimes. He would say 'she is my sister, and this is sinful.' Sometimes I think about him and wish he could be here and I wish I could have him as my brother."

One evening, Gulsoma says, when her father-in-law saw the neighbor giving her food and a blanket, he took them away and beat her mercilessly. Then, she says, he locked her in a shed for two months.

"I would be kept there all day," she says, "then at night they would let me go the bathroom and I would be fed one time each day. Most of the time it was only bread and sometimes some beans."

She says every day she was locked in the shed, she wished and prayed that her parents would come and take her away. Then she would remember that her father was dead and her mother was gone.

But Gulsoma had an inner strength even her father-in-law couldn't comprehend.

"When he came to the shed he kept asking me, 'Why don't you die? I imprisoned you, I give you less food, but still you don't die.'"

But it wasn't for lack of trying. Gulsoma said when her father-in-law finally let her out of the shed, he bound her hands behind her back and beat her unconscious. She says he revived her by pouring a tea thermos filling with scalding water over her head and her back.

"It was so painful," she says, dabbing her eyes with her scarf and sniffling for a moment. "I was crying and screaming the entire time."

Five days later, she says, her father in law gave her a vicious beating when his daughter's wristwatch went missing.

"He thought I stole it," she says, "and he beat me all over my body with his stick. He broke my arm and my foot. He said if I didn't find it by the next day, he would kill me."

She crawled away that night and hid under a rickshaw. When the rickshaw driver found Gulsoma, broken and bleeding, he listened to her story and took her to the police. She was hospitalized immediately.

"The doctor at the hospital who treated me said, 'I wish I could take you to the village square and show all the people what happened to you, so no one would ever do something like this again,'" Gulsoma says.

It took her a full month to recover from her last beating. But the fear and psychological trauma may never go away.

"I was happy to have a bed and food at the hospital," she says. "But I was thinking that when I get better they will give me back to the family."

However, Gulsoma says when the police questioned the family, the father-in-law lied and tried to tell them she had epilepsy and had fallen down and hurt herself. But the neighbor who had helped Gulsoma confirmed the story of her beatings and torture.

The police arrested her father-in-law and "husband." They told her, she says, they would keep them in jail unless she asked for their release.

"Everyone was crying when they heard my story," Gulsoma says.

Gulsoma says she stayed at an orphanage in Kandahar, but was the only girl in the facility. Eventually, her story was brought to the attention of the Ministry of Women's Affairs.



The toll of torture

Gulsoma was then brought to a Kabul orphanage, where she lives today. She takes off her baseball cap and shows us a bald spot, almost like a medieval monk's tonsure, on the crown of her head where she was scalded.

She then turns her back and raises her shirt to reveal a sad map of scar tissue and keloids from cuts, bruises and the boiling water.

Haroon and I look at each other with disbelief. Her life's tragic story is etched upon her back.

Yet she continues to smile. She doesn't ask for pity. She seems more concerned about us as she reads the shock on our faces.

"I feel better now," she says. "I have friends at the orphanage. But every night I'm still afraid the family will come here and pick me up."

Gulsoma also says that when the sun goes down, she sometimes begins to shiver involuntarily - a reaction to the seven years of sleeping outdoors, sometimes in the bitter cold of the desert night.

She says she believes there are other girls like her in Kandahar, maybe elsewhere in Afghanistan, and that she wants to study human rights and one day go back to help them.

As we walk outside to take some pictures, I ask her if, after all she's been through, she thinks it will be harder to trust, to believe that there are actually good people in the world.

"No," she says, quickly.

"I didn't expect anyone would help me but God. I was really surprised that there were also nice people: the neighbor, the rickshaw driver, the police," she says. "I pray for those who helped release me."

Looking directly into the camera, she smiles as if nothing bad had ever happened to her in her entire life.

"I think that all people are good people," she says, "except for those that hurt me."

SUPPORT GULSOMA


The Kevin Sites in the Hot Zone team has set up an email account so that messages of support can be retrieved and forwarded to Gulsoma via a local organization. Click here to email your message.

To learn more about how you can help Gulsoma and other children in need in Afghanistan, click here.

CHILDREN RESPOND

A number of children Gulsoma's age posted messages of support for her. Read the comments here.

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THE LAW OF SHARIA

A Woman's Plight

Early in December of 2001, a Sharia religious court of appeal in Muslim-dominated northwest Nigeria ordered a stay of execution for a woman who had been sentenced by a lower court to be stoned to death for having sex outside of marriage. The woman contended that she had been raped. The court granted the stay to allow Safiya Hussaini, 33, to appeal her sentence by a lower Sharia court in the state of Sokoto. The woman is a divorced mother with five children who would be orphaned and probably perish if the execution were carried out.
The court imposed the sentence after Hussaini asked it to compel a man to pay for her infant daughter's naming ceremony. She charged he had raped her three times and impregnated her. When she charged the man with rape, the court dismissed the charges against him, citing a lack of evidence because she was the sole witness. After dismissing the rape charge against the man, the lower Sharia court then charged the woman with adultery and sentenced her to death in mid-October. She was given thirty days to appeal. According to Sura 2:282 of the Qur'an, the testimony of a woman is equal to only half the testimony of a man, so Hussaini's appeal will automatically be trumped by the rapist's counter-charge.
Hussaini was sentenced to death because she was divorced. Had she never been married, the sentence would only have been one hundred lashes. The fate of her five children, of course, was of no concern to the religious court.
The Nigerian federal government has said it will not allow the sentence to be carried out, but officials in Sokoto indicated that the federal government had not contacted them about the up-coming stoning. Nigeria is not yet "One Nation Under God," since Sharia has been imposed on less than a half of its 36 states. More than a thousand people have lost their lives in riots protesting the introduction of religious law. [source - AP]
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Posted: October 12, 2006
(c) 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Lorans Emeel, threatened with rape if she denied Islam

A 15-year-old Egyptian girl has escaped from a team of Muslims who kidnapped her and threatened her with rape if she did not convert to Islam, according to a new report from Voice of the Martyrs."

The group, a Christian aid organization that has helped members of the persecuted Christian church worldwide since its founding in 1967, said it is for situations such as the recent one involving Lorans Wageah Emeel that it runs safe houses in various locations throughout the Muslim world.

(Story continues below)


The teen, living in El Mahala Al Kobra, about 60 miles north of Cairo, disappeared from a public bus on Oct. 2, when a team of Muslims drugged her and threatened her with rape if she refused to embrace Islam, described by its supporters as a "religion of peace."

Her parents were notified via text message that, "The girl is not accepting easily, but she will embrace Islam for sure." Another said, "Take the rest of your daughters and leave the city, or you will lose them one by one."

The Compass Direct report provided to Voice of the Martyrs said it was the next night, about 10 p.m. on Oct. 3, when she was able to escape from a detention room where she was being held in Helwan, a suburb just south of Cairo.

She fled while the terrorists were taking a break from a Ramadan fast, the report said. She was able to contact authorities, but was told then that if she did not deny the kidnapping had occurred, she would "never see her parents again."

The kidnapping was reported only by the El Tareek, the sole Arabic Christian newspaper in the Middle East. It said that the abductors wanted the girl, a student at Saida Nafesa High School in El Mahala Al Kobra, to reject Christ and embrace Islam.

Her family members had gathered at the El Mahala Al Kobra police station on the morning of Oct. 3 to plead with officers to find Lorans and return her to them. Her parents accused a Muslim man of kidnapping their daughter in a report filed at the police station.

Voice of the Martyrs said the kidnapping of Christian teenage girls in Muslim nations has reached epidemic proportions. Other times, the girls themselves are lured away with promises of material wealth.

The organization, for that reason, sponsors safe houses in various Islamic nations to protect Christian girls who face such threats, or who already have escaped from abduction, officials said.

These Christian refuges are also places where young women learn job skills and receive spiritual training, the group said.
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Rape Victims Held Criminally Lible, a news item on page 17a, of the Sunday, June 2, 2002, The Palm Beach Post article, "Pakistani rape victims the criminals." This article stated, "The evidence of guilt was there for all to see: a newborn baby in the arms of its mother, a village woman named Zafran Bibi.

Her crime: She had been raped. Her sentence: death by stoning.

Thumping a fat red statute book, the white-bearded judge who convicted her, Anwar Ali Kahn, said he had simply followed the letter of the Koran based law, known as hudood, that mandates punishment.

Furthermore, he said, in accusing her brother-in-law of raping her, Zafran had confessed to her crime.

"The lady stated before this court that, yea, she had committed sexual intercourse, but with the brother of her husband," Judge Khan said. "This left no option to the court but to impose the highest penalty."

Although legal fine points do exist, little distinction is made in court between forced and consensual sex.

When hudood was enacted 23 years ago, the laws were formally described as measures to ban "all forms of adultery, whether the offense is committed with or without the consent of the parties." But women are almost always punished, whatever the facts.

(THIS IS NONSENSE AND A TOTAL INJUSTICE. ALSO, THE SAME PENALTY IS GIVEN FOR HOMOSEXUALITY)
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Imam justifies rape of unveiled women
Australian cleric compares victims to 'uncovered meat' that attracts cats

October 26, 2006
(c) 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Australia's top Muslim cleric rationalized a series of gang rapes by Arab men, blaming women who "sway suggestively," wear make-up and don't cover themselves in the tradition of Islam.


Sheik Ibrahim Mogra with Sheik Taj el-Dene Elhilaly. (Courtesy Sydney Daily Telegraph)

Sheik Taj el-Dene Elhilaly's comments in a Ramadan sermon in a Sydney mosque have stirred a furor in the country with even Prime Minister John Howard weighing in with condemnation.

The cleric also said the judge in the case, who sentenced the rapists, had "no mercy."

"But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he said, referring to the women victims - whom he said were "weapons used by Satan."

The victims of the vicious gang rapes are leading the national outcry - with some calling for deportation of the sheik. In a Sydney Daily Telegraph online poll, 84 percent of people said the Egyptian-born sheik should be deported.

(Story continues below)


"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?" the sheik said in his sermon. "The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

A 16-year-old girl, whose gang rape investigation was the subject of a secret police report, issued an open letter yesterday.

"You are a sad person who has no understanding of what really happens when these people inflict harm and degrading acts upon me or any other young girl," she said.

Initially, the mufti of Australia would not back away from his comments. But today he apologized.

"I unreservedly apologize to any woman who is offended by my comments," he said in a statement. "I had only intended to protect women's honor."

Howard said the sheik's remarks were "appalling and reprehensible."

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