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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON ACTS OF UN-GODLY INFIDELS:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 815A]

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

During the culmination of the end times, the prophet Daniel prophesied at
Daniel 7:9 - 10, [AV] “I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.” And showing all after this great tribulation will as shown at Psalms 150:6, [AV] “Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.” Yes, before this final culmination, at the end of the gentile times it is revealed what will transpire in heaven at Revelation 12:9 – 10, [AV] “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON ACTS OF UN-GODLY INFIDELS:

The acts of the un-Godly infidels, al-Qaeda is a sign of the times foretold in the Bible at 2 Timothy 3:1-5, "But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; 5 holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power therefore. From these also turn away." (American Standard Verstion; ASV). Why are the wicked infidels waxing with ever greater wicked acts? The Bible shows us at 1 John 5:19, "We know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in the evil one." (ASV).

But we as true Christians know that the real fight is per Ephesians 6:12, "For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual [hosts] of wickedness in the heavenly [places]." (ASV). Because of this mankind in generallove darkness and evil acts such as those of the wicked al-Qaeda as foretold at John 3:19, "And this is the judgment, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil." (ASV); and Romans 1:28-32, "And even as they refused to have God in [their] knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful: 32 who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practise such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also consent with them that practise them." (ASV).

So what must we do? The Bible answers at Ephesians 5:15-17, "Look therefore carefully how ye walk, not as unwise, but as wise; 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is." (ASV). And we must be 'singing' the praise of God (YHWH) and of his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) per Revelations 15:3-4, "And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, O Lord God, the Almighty; righteous and true are thy ways, thou King of the ages. 4 Who shall not fear, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy; for all the nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy righteous acts have been made manifest." (ASV); and keeping in mind the hope of the resurrection for our loved ones per Acts 24:15, "having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust." (ASV).

As his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) will soon cleanse the earth of wickedness, no longer will Satan the Devil be the god of this system of things per Revelations 20:1-2, "And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, the old serpent, which is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years," (ASV). No longer will infidels such as al Qaeda misrepresent God (YHWH) and commit evil atrocities and individuals be exploited at the hands of human authorities. What marvelous freedom all of obedient mankind will enjoy since Jesus (Yeshua) will apply the value of his sacrafice as testified to at John 1:29, "On the morrow he seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold, the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world!" (ASV).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON WHAT IS BABYLON THE GREAT:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 816A]

Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;… The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. Joel 2:1 and 31, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

The great tribulation that will occur at the culmination of the end times will be like nothing that has ever occurred on earth before as testified to at Malachi 4:1, [AV] “For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” And immediately after the great tribulation the conditions that will exist are foretold at Matthew 24:29 – 31, [AV] “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON WHAT IS BABYLON THE GREAT:

In Revelations 18:1-4 true Christians are warned to get out of Babylon the great before it is too late, "And after these things, I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power: and the earth was enlightened with his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen: and is become the habitation of devils and the hold of every unclean spirit and the hold of every unclean and hateful bird: 3 Because all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication: and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her; And the merchants of the earth have been made rich by the power of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Go out from her, my people; that you be not partakers of her sins and that you receive not of her plagues." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible; DRCB); BUT WHAT IS THIS Babylon the Great? [Note: some scriptures will br repeated during this discourse so as to maintain focus.]

THE IDENTITY OF BABYLON THE GREAT:

This Babylon the Great is symbolically described as both a harlot and a city at Revelations 17:1-5 & 18, "And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven vials and spoke with me, saying: Come, I will shew thee the condemnation of the great harlot, who sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication. And they who inhabit the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her whoredom. 3 And he took me away in spirit into the desert. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was clothed round about with purple and scarlet, and gilt with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, full of the abomination and filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written: A mystery: Babylon the great, the mother of the fornications and the abominations of the earth." & "And the woman which thou sawest is the great city which hath kingdom over the kings of the earth." (DRCB); And at Revelation 18:10, "Standing afar off for fear of her torments, saying: Alas! alas! that great city, Babylon, that mighty city: for in one hour is thy judgment come." (DRCB).

Of course the literal Babylon, the ancient city, no longer existed when Revelations was written at the end of the 1 st. century. It was taken first by the Persians under Cyrus the Great, and later by Alexander the great who planned to make Babylon the capital of his eastern empire; however, after hisdeath Babylon gradually fell from prominence. (*1).

In fact, Alexander did attempt to restore the city as he had promised the inhabitants, but failed to do so. (*2) In fact, the population of the old city was actually moved to a new city, Babylonia, and the ruins of the old city became a quarry for the builders of the new city, the seat of government. (*3).

Of course this was foretold that the city would gradually cease to exist at Daniel 5:17-30, "To which Daniel made answer, and said before the king: thy rewards be to thyself, and the gifts of thy house give to another: but the writing I will read to thee, O king, and shew thee the interpretation thereof. 18 O king, the most high God gave to Nabuchodonosor, thy father, a kingdom, and greatness, and glory, and honour. 19 And for the greatness that he gave to him, all people, tribes, and languages trembled, and were afraid of him: whom he would, he slew: and whom he would, he destroyed: and whom he would, he set up: and whom he would, he brought down. 20 But when his heart was lifted up, and his spirit hardened unto pride, he was put down from the throne of his kingdom, and his glory was taken away. 21 And he was driven out from the sons of men, and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses, and he did eat grass like an ox, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven: till he knew that the most High ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he will set over it whomsoever it shall please him. 22 Thou also, his son, O Baltasar, hast not humbled thy heart, whereas thou knewest all these things: 23 But hast lifted thyself up against the Lord of heaven: and the vessels of his house have been brought before thee: and thou, and thy nobles, and thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them: and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and of gold, and of brass, of iron, and of wood, and of stone, that neither see, nor hear, nor feel: but the God who hath thy breath in his hand, and all thy ways, thou hast not glorified. 24 Wherefore, he hath sent the part of the hand which hath written this that is set down. 25 And this is the writing that is written: MANE, THECEL, PHARES. 26 And this is the interpretation of the word. MANE: God hath numbered thy kingdom, and hath finished it. 27 THECEL: thou art weighed in the balance, and art found wanting. 28 PHARES: thy kingdom is divided, and is given to the Medes and Persians. 29 Then by the king's command, Daniel was clothed with purple, and a chain of gold was put about his neck: and it was proclaimed of him that he had power as the third man in the kingdom.
30 The same night Baltasar, the Chaldean king, was slain." (DRCB).

In the Biblical sense, the city of Babylon is referenced to something more extensive or all important than the original literal city of Babylon, but has similarities to it as shown by Revelation 11:8, "And their bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city which is called spiritually, Sodom and Egypt: where their Lord also was crucified." (DRCB).

IT IS NOT A POLITICAL SYSTEM:

Some feel that Babylon the Great refers to a political system, but this can not be the case as the Bible says she commits fornication with the political rulers. This is clearly shown at Revelation 17:1-5, "And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven vials and spoke with me, saying: Come, I will shew thee the condemnation of the great harlot, who sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication. And they who inhabit the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her whoredom. 3 And he took me away in spirit into the desert. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was clothed round about with purple and scarlet, and gilt with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, full of the abomination and filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written: A mystery: Babylon the great, the mother of the fornications and the abominations of the earth." (DRCB); And at Revelation 8:9, "And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived in delicacies with her, shall weep and bewail themselves over her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning:" (DRCB).

IT IS NOT A COMMERCIAL SYSTEM:

Many feel it is the corrupt commercial systems, but this can not be as the scriptures show them weeping at her destruction. See Revelations 18:11-16, "And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her: for no man shall buy their merchandise any more. 12 Merchandise of gold and silver and precious stones: and of pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet: and all thyine wood: and all manner of vessels of ivory: and all manner of vessels of precious stone and of brass and of iron and of marble: 13 And cinnamon and odours and ointment and frankincense and wine and oil and fine flour and wheat and beasts and sheep and horses and chariots: and slaves and souls of men. 14 And the fruits of the desire of thy soul are departed from thee: and all fat and goodly things are perished from thee. And they shall find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, who were made rich, shall stand afar off from her, for fear of her torments, weeping and mourning, 16 And saying: Alas! alas! that great city, which was clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet and was gilt with gold and precious stones and pearls." (DRCB).

IT IS A RELIGIOUS SYSTEM:

It is a religious system. How so? Let's look at the history of Babylon in its prime. It was noted for its religion that was in opposition the worship of Almighty God (YHWH), the true God (YHWH). This fact is shown by Genesis 10:8-10, "Now Chus begot Nemrod: he began to be mighty on the earth. 9 And he was a stout hunter before the Lord. Hence came a proverb: Even as Nemrod the stout hunter before the Lord. 10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babylon, and Arach, and Achad, and Chalanne in the land of Sennaar." (DRCB); And at Genesis 11:4-9, "And they said: Come, let us make a city and a tower, the top whereof may reach to heaven; and let us make our name famous before we be scattered abroad into all lands. 5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of Adam were building. 6 And he said: Behold, it is one people, and all have one tongue: and they have begun to do this, neither will they leave off from their designs, till they accomplish them in deed. 7 Come ye, therefore, let us go down, and there confound their tongue, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8 And so the Lord scattered them from that place into all lands, and they ceased to build the city. 9 And therefore the name thereof was called Babel, because there the language of the whole earth was confounded: and from thence the Lord scattered them abroad upon the face of all countries." (DRCB); And at Daniel 5:1-23, "Baltasar, the king, made a great feast for a thousand of his nobles: and every one drank according to his age. 2 And being now drunk, he commanded that they should bring the vessels of gold and silver, which Nabuchodonosor, his father, had brought away out of the temple, that was in Jerusalem, that the king and his nobles, and his wives, and his concubines, might drink in them. 3 Then were the golden and silver vessels brought, which he had brought away out of the temple that was in Jerusalem: and the king and his nobles, his wives, and his concubines, drank in them. 4 They drank wine, and praised their gods of gold, and of silver, of brass, of iron, and of wood, and of stone." & "To which Daniel made answer, and said before the king: thy rewards be to thyself, and the gifts of thy house give to another: but the writing I will read to thee, O king, and shew thee the interpretation thereof." & "Thou also, his son, O Baltasar, hast not humbled thy heart, whereas thou knewest all these things: 23 But hast lifted thyself up against the Lord of heaven: and the vessels of his house have been brought before thee: and thou, and thy nobles, and thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them: and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and of gold, and of brass, of iron, and of wood, and of stone, that neither see, nor hear, nor feel: but the God who hath thy breath in his hand, and all thy ways, thou hast not glorified." (DRCB); And at Jeremiah 51:6-47, "Flee ye from the midst of Babylon, and let every one save his own life: be not silent upon her iniquity: for it is the time of revenge from the Lord, he will render unto her what she hath deserved." & "Go out of the midst of her, my people: that every man may save his life from the fierce wrath of the Lord. 46 And lest your hearts faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land: and a rumour shall come in one year, and after this year another rumour: and iniquity in the land, and ruler upon ruler. 47 Therefore behold the days come, and I will visit the idols of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her." (DRCB); And at Isaiah 21:9, "Behold this man cometh, the rider upon the chariot with two horsemen, and he answered, and said: Babylon is fallen, she is fallen, and all the graven gods thereof are broken unto the ground." (DRCB); And at Isaiah 52:11 Depart, depart, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing: go out of the midst of her, be ye clean, you that carry the vessels of the Lord." (DRCB).

This is confirmed by secular history, The Encyclopedia Britannica says, "Advantageous as is Babylon's geographic position, other factors helped make her a dominant city for a long period. Throughout the whole history of Mesopotamia, ancient as well as modern, religion has played an important part in giving prestige and power to a city. In Mesopotamia from the time of Hammurabi onwards the worship of Marduk was especially associated with Babylon. The priesthood acquired considerable power, and even the kings of Assyria found it politic to receive what was practically a coronation rite in Babylon." (*4) And the Encyclopedia Americana, said, "Sumerian civilization [which embraced Babylon] was largely denominated by priests; at the head of the state was the 'laugal' (literally 'great man'), the representative of the gods. Sumerian religion was polytheistic." (*5) This same fact was stated by many other renown publications such as "Religions of Babylonia and Assyria," 1898, by Morris Jastrow, Jr. (*6); "The worship of the Dead," 1904, by Colonel J Garnier (*7); "The Races of the Old Testament," 1891, by A.H. Sayce (*8).

In fact in the book, "Nebuchadnezzar," (*9) it states, "By the side of their depravity, the Babylonians were the most religious people of antiguity." In fact, there were 53 temples to the chief gods, 55 chapels of Marduk, 300 chapels for the earthly deities, 600 for the heavenly deities, 180 altars for the goddess Ishtar, 180 for the gods Nergal and Adad, and 12 other altars for different gods. (*10)

This point of Bablyon the Great representing religions in opposition to the worship of Almighty God (YHWH) is driven home at Revelation 17:6, "And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And I wondered, when I had seen her, with great admiration." (DRCB); And at Revelation 18:24, "And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all that were slain upon the earth." (DRCB).

JESUS (YESHUA) SHOWED FALSE RELIGIOUS LEADERS BORE THE RESPONSIBILITY:

Jesus (Yeshua) clearly stated that false religious leaders bore the responsibility at Matthew 23:29-35, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, that build the sepulchres of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the just, 30 And say: If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31 Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves, that you are the sons of them that killed the prophets. 32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 33 You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of hell? 34 Therefore behold I send to you prophets and wise men and scribes: and some of them you will put to death and crucify: and some you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city. 35 That upon you may come all the just blood that hath been shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the just, even unto the blood of Zacharias the son of Barachias, whom you killed between the temple and the altar." (DRCB).

INVOLVEMENT IN WORLDLY AFFAIRS BY ONES PROFESSING TO SERVE GOD (YHWH) IS RELIGIOUS FORNICATION:

Many who claim to be true Christians get involved in worldly affairs yet claim to be serving Almighty God (YHWH); this is religious fornication as shown by Jesus (Yeshua) at James 4:4, "Adulterers, know you not that the friendship of this world is the enemy of God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of this world becometh an enemy of God." (DRCB); And at Ezekiel 16:2-29, "And the word of the Lord came to me, saying: 2 Son of man, make known to Jerusalem her abominations. 3 And thou shalt say: Thus saith the Lord God to Jerusalem: Thy root, and thy nativity is of the land of Chanaan, thy father was an Amorrhite, and thy mother a Cethite. 4 And when thou wast born, in the day of thy nativity thy navel was not cut, neither wast thou washed with water for thy health, nor salted with salt, nor swaddled with clouts. 5 No eye had pity on thee to do any of these things for thee, out of compassion to thee: but thou wast cast out upon the face of the earth in the abjection of thy soul, in the day that thou wast born. 6 And passing by thee, I saw that thou wast trodden under foot in thy own blood: and I said to thee when thou wast in thy blood: Live: I have said to thee: Live in thy blood. 7 I caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field: and thou didst increase and grow great, and advancedst, and camest to woman's ornament: thy breasts were fashioned, and thy hair grew: and thou was naked, and full of confusion. 8 And I passed by thee, and saw thee: and behold thy time was the time of lovers: and I spread my garment over thee, and covered thy ignominy. and I swore to thee, and I entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord God: and thou becamest mine. 9 And I washed thee with water, and cleansed away thy blood from thee: and I anointed thee with oil. 10 And I clothed thee with embroidery, and shod thee with violet coloured shoes: and I girded thee about with fine linen, and clothed thee with fine garments. 11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and put bracelets on thy hands, and a chain about thy neck. 12 And I put a jewel upon thy forehead and earrings in thy ears, and a beautiful crown upon thy head. 13 And thou wast adorned with gold, and silver, and wast clothed with fine linen, and embroidered work, and many colours: thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil, and wast made exceeding beautiful: and wast advanced to be a queen. 14 And thy renown went forth among the nations for thy beauty: for thou wast perfect through my beauty, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God. 15 But trusting in thy beauty, thou playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and thou hast prostituted thyself to every passenger, to be his. 16 And taking of thy garments thou hast made thee high places sewed together on each side: and hast played the harlot upon them, as hath not been done before, nor shall be hereafter. 17 And thou tookest thy beautiful vessels, of my gold, and my silver, which I gave thee, and thou madest thee images of men, and hast committed fornication with them. 18 And thou tookest thy garments of divers colours, and coveredst them: and settest my oil and my sweet incense before them. 19 And my bread which I gave thee, the fine flour, and oil, and honey, wherewith I fed thee, thou hast set before them for a sweet odour; and it was done, saith the Lord God. 20 And thou hast taken thy sons, and thy daughters, whom thou hast borne to me: and hast sacrificed the same to them to be devoured. Is thy fornication small? 21 Thou hast sacrificed and given my children to them, consecrating them by fire. 22 And after all thy abominations, and fornications, thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, when thou wast naked, and full of confusion, trodden under foot in thy own blood. 23 And it came to pass after all thy wickedness (woe, woe to thee, saith the Lord God) 24 That thou didst also build thee a common stew, and madest thee a brothel house in every street. 25 At every head of the way thou hast set up a sign of thy prostitution: and hast made thy beauty to be abominable: and hast prostituted thyself to every one that passed by, and hast multiplied thy fornications. 26 And thou hast committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, men of large bodies, and hast multiplied thy fornications to provoke me. 27 Behold, I will stretch out my hand upon thee, and will take away thy justification: and I will deliver thee up to the will of the daughters of the Philistines that hate thee, that are ashamed of thy wicked way. 28 Thou hast also committed fornication with the Assyrians, because thou wast not yet satisfied: and after thou hadst played the harlot with them, even so thou wast not contented. 29 Thou hast also multiplied thy fornications in the land of Chanaan with the Chaldeans: and neither so wast thou satisfied." (DRCB). In addition, Babylon the Great is described as the harlot that commits fornication with the political rulers by the Apostle John at Revelations 17:1-3, "And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven vials and spoke with me, saying: Come, I will shew thee the condemnation of the great harlot, who sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication. And they who inhabit the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her whoredom. 3 And he took me away in spirit into the desert. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns." (DRCB).

She, Babylon the Great is described as living in shameless luxury while the people suffer under her domination, and this is characteristic of most false religions. This fact is detailed for us at Revelations 18:7 & 16, "As much as she hath glorified herself and lived in delicacies, so much torment and sorrow give ye to her. Because she saith in her heart: I sit a queen and am no widow: and sorrow I shall not see." & "And saying: Alas! alas! that great city, which was clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet and was gilt with gold and precious stones and pearls." (DRCB); And at Revelations 17:2-4, "With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication. And they who inhabit the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her whoredom. 3 And he took me away in spirit into the desert. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was clothed round about with purple and scarlet, and gilt with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, full of the abomination and filthiness of her fornication."

BABYLONIAN RELIGIOUS PRACTICES AND CONSTRUCTS ARE FOUND IN MODERN RELIGIOUS SYSTEMS THAT ARE PART OF BABYLON THE GREAT:

This is clearly shown by W. Lansdell Wardle in his book, "Israel and Babylon," (*11) which states, "The triad of divinities Sin, Shamash, and Ishtar, is reckoned in the Pan-Babylonian theory as a family, the children of Anu, the Father of the gods, or of Ellil, the Ruler of the Zodiac.'" This same fact is notes
d by the Encyclopedia Britannica, "The distinction between priest and layman as charasteristic of this [Babylonian] religion." (*12).

And, C. Leonard Wooley in his book, "The Sumerians," (*13) stated, "Church and State [inancient Babylon] were so inextricably mingled that while the State has to be regarded as a theocracy the Church must in part at least be judged as a political institution and the state religion as a political instrument."

The "International Standard Bible Encyclopedia," (*14) stated, "After death the souls of men were supposed to continue in existence. It can hardly be called life. The place to which they have gone is called the 'land of no return.' There they lived in dark rooms and the dust and dthe bats covered with a garment of feathers, and under the dominion of Nergal and Ereshpigal. When the soul arrived among the dead he had to pass judgment before the judges of the dead."

Clearly we can see in these practices many of the precepts and concepts found in false religion of today such as the Trinity which the triad of divinities Sin, Shanash, and Ishtar were the fore runners of this false doctrine found in many so called Christian denominations. Of course other false Bablonian concepts are also found in them today.

This fact of false religion as represented by Babylon the Great is testified to as Jeremiah 50:35-38, "A sword is upon the Chaldeans, saith the Lord, and upon the inhabitants of Babylon, and upon her princes, and upon her wise men. 36 A sword upon her diviners, and they shall be foolish: a sword upon her valiant ones, and they shall be dismayed. 37 A sword upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the people that are in the midst of her: and they shall become as women: a sword upon her treasures, and they shall be made a spoil. 38 A drought upon her waters, and they shall be dried up: because it is a land of idols, and they glory in monstrous things." (DRCB); And at Isaiah 47:1-14, "Come down, sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne for the daughter of the Chaldeans, for thou shalt no more be called delicate and tender. 2 Take a millstone and grind meal: uncover thy shame, strip thy shoulder, make bare thy legs, pass over the rivers. 3 Thy nakedness shall be discovered, and thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and no man shall resist me. 4 Our redeemer, the Lord of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. 5 Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called the lady of kingdoms. 6 I was angry with my people, I have polluted my inheritance, and have given them into thy hand: thou hast shewn no mercy to them: upon the ancient thou hast laid thy yoke exceeding heavy. 7 And thou hast said: I shall be a lady for ever: thou hast not laid these things to thy heart, neither hast thou remembered thy latter end. 8 And now hear these things, thou that art delicate, and dwellest confidently, that sayest in thy heart: I am, and there is none else besides me: I shall not sit as a widow, and I shall not know barrenness. 9 These two things shall come upon thee suddenly in one day, barrenness and widowhood. All things are come upon thee, because of the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great hardness of thy enchanters. 10 And thou hast trusted in thy wickedness, and hast said: There is none that seeth me. Thy wisdom, and, thy knowledge, this hath deceived thee. And thou hast said in thy heart: I am, and besides me there is no other. 11 Evil shall come upon thee, and thou shalt not know the rising thereof: and calamity shall fall violently upon thee, which thou canst not keep off: misery shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know. 12 Stand now with thy enchanters, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, in which thou hast laboured from thy youth, if so be it may profit thee any thing, or if thou mayst become stronger. 13 Thou hast failed in the multitude of thy counsels: let now the astrologers stand and save thee, they that gazed at the stars, and counted the months, that from them they might tell the things that shall come to thee. 14 Behold they are as stubble, fire hath burnt them, they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flames: there are no coals wherewith they may be warmed, nor fire, that they may sit thereat. 15 Such are all the things become to thee, in which thou hast laboured: thy merchants from thy youth, every one hath erred in his own way, there is none that can save thee." (DRCB); And at Ezekiel 21:21, "For the king of Babylon stood in the highway, at the head of two ways, seeking divination, shuffling arrows: he inquired of the idols, and consulted entrails." (DRCB).

This fact was recognized by Robert M. Engberg and Fay Cooper Cole in their book, "The Dawn of Civilization and Life in the Ancient East," (*15) which stated, "The Chaldeans made great progress in the study of astronomy through an effort to discover the future in the stars. This are we call 'astrology'....The groups of stars which now bear the name 'Twelve Signs of the Zodiac' were mapped out for the first time, and the planets... Since these planets were thought to have special powers over the lives of men, they were named for the five leading gods and goddesses. We refer to these planets by their Roman names, but the Babylonian tersm and simply translated them into their equivalents in Rome. Thus the planet Ishtar, the goddess of love, became Venus, and that of the god Marduk was changed to Jupiter." See also the Encyclopedia Britannica, 1946 at Chicago, vol. 8, p. 786 (*16).

Babylon the Great encircles the globe like a world wide kingdom or empire as shown by Revelation 17:18, "And the woman which thou sawest is the great city which hath kingdom over the kings of the earth." (DRCB). It dominates the masses of people in many lands as shown by Revelation 17:1-15, "And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven vials and spoke with me, saying: Come, I will shew thee the condemnation of the great harlot, who sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication. And they who inhabit the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her whoredom. 3 And he took me away in spirit into the desert. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was clothed round about with purple and scarlet, and gilt with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, full of the abomination and filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written: A mystery: Babylon the great, the mother of the fornications and the abominations of the earth. 6 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And I wondered, when I had seen her, with great admiration. 7 And the angel said to me: Why dost thou wonder? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman and of the beast which carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast which thou sawest, was, and is not, and shall come up out of the bottomless pit and go into destruction. And the inhabitants on the earth (whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world) shall wonder, seeing the beast that was and is not. 9 And here is the understanding that hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, upon which the woman sitteth: and they are seven kings. 10 Five are fallen, one is, and the other is not yet come: and when he is come, he must remain a short time. 11 And the beast which was and is not: the same also is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into destruction. 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom: but shall receive power as kings, one hour after the beast. 13 These have one design: and their strength and power they shall deliver to the beast.
14 These shall fight with the Lamb. And the Lamb shall overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings: and they that are with him are called and elect and faithful. 15 And he said to me: The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples and nations and tongues." (DRCB).

THE FALL AND DESTRUCTION OF BABYLON THE GREAT:

In ancient times when the Persian, Cyrus, overthrew ancient Babylon, he gave God's (YHWH's) people permission to return home as testified to at Isaiah 48:20, "Come forth out of Babylon, flee ye from the Chaldeans, declare it with the voice of joy: make this to be heard, and speak it out even to the ends of the earth. Say: The Lord hath redeemed his servant Jacob." (DRCB); And at Ezra 1:1-4, "In the first year of Cyrus king of the Persians, that the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremias might be fulfilled, the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of the Persians: and he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and in writing also, saying: 2 Thus saith Cyrus king of the Persians: The Lord the God of heaven hath given to me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he hath charged me to build him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judea. 3 Who is there among you of all his people? His God be with him. Let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in Judea, and build the house of the Lord the God of Israel: he is the God that is in Jerusalem. 4 And let all the rest in all places wheresoever they dwell, help him every man from his place, with silver and gold, and goods, and cattle, besides that which they offer freely to the temple of God, which is in Jerusalem." (DRCB). This is even testified to in secular sources such as "The Encyclopedia Britannica, 1910 at NY, Vol. 3, p. 115 (*17). And in the book, "Nabonidus and Belshazzar," Yale Oriental Series, Researchers, Vol. 15, 1929 at New haven, by Raymond P. Dougherty, p. 167. (*18)

This fall of Babylon the Great is accompanied by a command to God's (YHWH's) people to get out of her as recorded at Revelation 18:1-21, "And after these things, I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power: and the earth was enlightened with his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen: and is become the habitation of devils and the hold of every unclean spirit and the hold of every unclean and hateful bird: 3 Because all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication: and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her; And the merchants of the earth have been made rich by the power of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Go out from her, my people; that you be not partakers of her sins and that you receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven: and the Lord hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Render to her as she also hath rendered to you: and double unto her double, according to her works. In the cup wherein she hath mingled, mingle ye double unto her. 7 As much as she hath glorified herself and lived in delicacies, so much torment and sorrow give ye to her. Because she saith in her heart: I sit a queen and am no widow: and sorrow I shall not see. 8 Therefore, shall her plagues come in one day, death and mourning and famine. And she shall be burnt with the fire: because God is strong, who shall judge her. 9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived in delicacies with her, shall weep and bewail themselves over her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning: 10 Standing afar off for fear of her torments, saying: Alas! alas! that great city, Babylon, that mighty city: for in one hour is thy judgment come. 11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her: for no man shall buy their merchandise any more. 12 Merchandise of gold and silver and precious stones: and of pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet: and all thyine wood: and all manner of vessels of ivory: and all manner of vessels of precious stone and of brass and of iron and of marble: 13 And cinnamon and odours and ointment and frankincense and wine and oil and fine flour and wheat and beasts and sheep and horses and chariots: and slaves and souls of men. 14 And the fruits of the desire of thy soul are departed from thee: and all fat and goodly things are perished from thee. And they shall find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, who were made rich, shall stand afar off from her, for fear of her torments, weeping and mourning, 16 And saying: Alas! alas! that great city, which was clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet and was gilt with gold and precious stones and pearls. 17 For in one hour are so great riches come to nought. And every shipmaster and all that sail into the lake, and mariners, and as many as work in the sea, stood afar off, 18 And cried, seeing the place of her burning, saying: What city is like to this great city? 19 And they cast dust upon their heads and cried, weeping and mourning, saying: Alas! alas! that great city, wherein all were made rich, that had ships at sea, by reason of her prices. For, in one hour she is made desolate. 20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven and ye holy apostles and prophets. For God hath judged your judgment on her. 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone, as it were a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying: With such violence as this, shall Babylon, that great city, be thrown down and shall be found no more at all." (DRCB).

Last her destruction is described in Revelation 18:8, "Therefore, shall her plagues come in one day, death and mourning and famine. And she shall be burnt with the fire: because God is strong, who shall judge her." (DRCB); And at Revelation 17:16-18, "For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled. 18 And the woman which thou sawest is the great city which hath kingdom over the kings of the earth." (DRCB); And at Revelation 18:21, "And a mighty angel took up a stone, as it were a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying: With such violence as this, shall Babylon, that great city, be thrown down and shall be found no more at all." (DRCB).

REFERENCES:

*1 The Encyclopedia Americana, 1956, Vol. 3, p. 7
*2 The New Funk and Wagnalls Encyclopedia, 1950, Vol. 3, p. 872
*3 Encyclopedia Britannica, 1910, Vol. 3, p106.
*4 The Encyclopedia Britannica, 1946, Vol. 2, p. 841.
*5 The Encyclopedia Americana, 1956, Vol. 3, p. 8.
*6 Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, 1898 in Boston, by Morris Jastrow Jr., see p. 699-700.
*7 The worship of the Dead, 1904 in London, by Colonel J. Garnier, p. 8.
*8 The Races of the Old Testament, 1891 in London, by A.H. Sayce, p. 60.
*9 Nebuchadnezzar, 1931 in London, by G.R. Tabouis, p. 364.
*10 The Bible as History, 1956 at NY, by Werner Keller, p. 299.
*11 Israel and Babylon, 1925 at London, by W. Lansdell Wardle, p. 324.
*12 The Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1946, Vol. 2, p. 861.
*13 The Sumerians, 1929 at Oxford, by C. Leonard Woodley, p. 129.
*14 The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, 1960 at Grand Rapids, Mich, Vol. 1, p. 373.
*15 The Dawn of Civilization and Life in the Ancient East, 1938 at Chicago, by Robert M. Engberg and Fay Cooper Cole, p. 230-232.
*16 The Encyclopedia Britannica, 1946 at Chicago, Vol. 8, p. 786.
*17 The Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1900 at NY, Vol. 3, p. 115.
*18 Nabonidus and Aslshazzer, Yale Oriental Series, Researchers, 1929 at New Haven, by Raymond P. Dougherty, p. 167.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON HYPOCRISY AND BIGOTRY:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 817A]

The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 2 Peter 2:9, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

All who seek to live a life obedient to Almighty God (YHWH) will suffer many afflictions as prophesied at Psalms 34:18 – 19, [AV] “The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. 19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.” But they should bear in mind 1 Corinthians 10:13, [AV] “There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.” And should not be ignorant of the fact brought out at 2 Peter 3:5 – 7, [AV] “For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON HYPOCRISY AND BIGOTRY:

As one person so aptly put it " Most of these other people are so obsessed at removing the "scales" from other people's eyes that they miss the "snake" in their own." Which goes along with the scripture at Luke 6:41, "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" (American Standard Version; ASV). In fact, Jesus (Yeshua) went on to show individuals acting this way were nothing but hypocrites at Luke 6:42, "Or how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me cast out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote that is in thy brother's eye." (ASV). Now we all know a hypocrite is NOT approved of by Jesus (Yeshua) as aptly testified to at Matthew 23:13, "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in." (ASV); And at Matthew 23:23, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." (ASV); And at Matthew 23:25, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess." (ASV); And at Matthew 23:27, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness." (ASV); And at Matthew 24:51, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (ASV); And Mark 7:6, "He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me." Clearly showing what hypocrites are; they are those who put on a pretense of godliness but do not live by the word of God (YHWH). They seek continually to degrade others on either false charges or on in-consequentials.

An example of the false accusations or in-consequential charges by hypocrites is as follows, " Charles Taze Russell, founder of the JW`s was a high ranking Freemason. " In making such a ridicules charge they cared naught for the truth of the matter. It is possible that this man who these hypocrites are railing against once was a member of the Freemasons. These same inclined individuals also accused this same man as being a drunkard, but of course offered up no proof as is the practice of hypocrites. The fact is, he may have been both a Freemason and a drunkard at some time in his life before he accepted Jesus (Yeshua) as his savior, but who cares. Take the Apostle Paul, he had committed many very wicked acts in his life before being called to be an Apostle by the resurrected Jesus (Yeshua) as he plainly testified to at Acts 22:19-21, " And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee: 20 And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. 21 And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles." (ASV), and Jesus (Yeshua) certainly did not hold his earlier actions against him even though they consisted of taking part in the murder of Stephen. Of course, this fact means nothing to hypocrites as they care NOT for truth, but are only interested in 'running others down' and are like the Pharisees mentioned at Matthew 22:23, previously quoted.

Now with respect to drinking and being drunk the Bible says of John the Baptist, at Luke 7:33, "For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil." (ASV), where these hypocrites tried to degrade John the Baptist because he did not eat bread or drink wine by saying in effect that he was not normal but 'hath a devil.' When the Son of God, Jesus (Yeshua) came, these same hypocritical individuals accused him of being a gluttonous man and a winebibber as recorded at Luke 7:34, "The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!" (ASV). Clearly they were NOT the least bit interested in the truth, but were just plain bigots as shown by their action and words. Of course, this is the way of hypocrites, they are always derogatory about others who they do not care for. So why should we be surprised when the modern hypocrites act in the same way as the hypocrites of old? They love to speak negatively about others ir-regardless of what the truth is.

As one person aptly put it, " They should take the advice their own 'messiah' gave, rather than 'do as I say, not as I do" mentality.'" This same individual stated, " "Not all fruits are the same, just as all organizations are the same."; made in reply to another's statement, " Not all fruits are the same, just as all organizations are the same." To which one of these hypocritical so called superfine Christians responded, "... the discussion wasn't about other organizations but JW's and the Watchtower Society." Clearly showing bigotry since if a thing is not wrong per the Bible it is NOT wrong period, and if it is wrong per the Bible, it is wrong no matter what organization or individual does it so it is clear that ones making this type of statement is both a bigot and a hypocrite, prima facia. These types of hypocritical individuals clearly forget what the scriptures say at 1 Peter 4:3, "For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:" (ASV), which shows that if we turn our lives around and accept Jesus (Yeshua) as our savior and no longer walk in lasciviousness, lusts, excesses of wine, etc. we can become acceptable to Jesus (Yeshua). This point is made clear in the qualifications for bishop at 1 Timothy 3:2, "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;" (ASV) which states the qualifications without any mention of what the person may have been before accepting Jesus (Yeshua) as his personal savior.

No more are these hypocrites shown to be unreasonable ones than by the fact they make much ado about inconsequential trivials, but gloss over major wrongs without mention by so called religious leaders such as murder by genocide of over one million individuals, burning individuals at the stake who did not agree with them, etc. Therefore as one individual so apthy put it, as previously quoted, " Most of these other people are so obssesed at removing the "scales" from other people's eyes that they miss the "snake" in their own"

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE RARE FRUIT OR VEGETABLE - Artocarpus odoratissimus


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 818A]

O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Jeremiah 10:23, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Almighty God (YHWH) asks Job a series of questions to clearly show him that man is not capable of many things including directing his own steps outside of God’s arrangement at Job 38:24 - 29, [AV] “By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth? 25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; 26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man; 27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth? 28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew? 29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?” And at Psalms 135:6 – 7, [AV] “Whatsoever the LORD pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places. 7 He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the Artocarpus odoratissimus, also called terap,marang, johey oak, green pedalai, madang, tarap, or timadang, is a tree in the mulberry and fig family Moraceae. It is native to Borneo, Palawan, and Mindanao Island, and is closely related to the jackfruit, cempedak, and breadfruit trees which all belong to the same genus, Artocarpus.
Description
Artocarpus odoratissimus is an evergreen tree growing to 25 metres (82 ft) tall. The leaves are 16–50 cm long and 11–28 cm broad, similar to the Breadfruit's, but are a little less lobed. Many trees lose the leaf lobing once mature.
Fruit
As indicated by the scientific name, the fruit has a strong scent, and is considered superior in flavour to both jackfruit and cempedak. The scent reminds some of the durian but is not so intense, and is in the thick skin and not the fruit pulp. The taste has hints of a mild creamy, almost juicy banana, and is best when not allowed to ripen thoroughly on the tree. Those ripened on the tree turn a more brownish color and will eventually fall to the ground and easily split open.
The appearance of the fruit can be regarded as an intermediate shape between the jackfruit and the breadfruit. It is round to oblong, 15–20 cm long and 13 cm broad, and weighing about 1 kg. The thick rind is covered with soft, broad spines. They become hard and brittle as the fruit matures. When fully mature the expanding arils stretch the outer rind which often appears lumpy, especially if not all seeds were pollinated. The fruit does not fall to the ground until over-ripe. It may be harvested when full size but still firm, and left to ripen until soft. Fruits change colour to greenish yellow when ripe. The ripe fruit is opened by cutting the rind around, twisting and gently pulling. If overripe they are simply pulled apart. The interior of the fruit is somewhat similar to the jackfruit's, but the color is white and the flesh is usually softer. The core is relatively large, but there are far fewer "rags" and less non-edible parts. Arils are white and the size of a grape, each containing a 15 × 8 mm seed. Once opened, the fruit should be consumed quickly (in a few hours), as it loses flavour rapidly and fruit oxidizes. The seeds are also edible after boiling or roasting.
Cultivation
Artocarpus odoratissimus is cultivated for its fruit in Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, southern Thailand and India Tripura. The species is largely grown for local consumption; the short shelf-life of the fruit limits its wider use.
The tree is not cold tolerant (as is the breadfruit). It can grow between latitude 15° north and south, and in coastal regions where temperatures never stay under 7 °C.
Similar fruits
The fruits of Artocarpus sericicarpus (known as the pedalai, or buah tarap) and Artocarpus sarawakensis (pingan or mountain tarap) are very similar to, and often confused with A. odoratissimus. Both these species are native to the same areas. However, they are still distinguishable based on their appearances when ripe. Artocarpus sericicarpus has hairs, like a large rambutan, and ripens red. Artocarpus sarawakensis is even trickier, because it is the shape of A. odoratissimus, and it is orange. It has smaller kernel sections.
Uses of tarap wastes
There are many uses of the leftover tarap peels, stem axis and seeds. The tarap peels were reported as useful material for the removal of colouring agents (such as crystal violet,[2] methyl violet 2B and methylene blue [3]) from dye wastewater. The tarap stem axis were reported to be used in the removal of Cd (II) and Cu(II).[4]
References
1.
• The Plant List: A Working List of All Plant Species, retrieved 1 October 2015
• Lim, Linda B. L.; Priyantha, Namal; Zehra, Tasneem; Then, Cheow Wei; Chan, Chin Mei (2016-05-08). "Adsorption of crystal violet dye from aqueous solution onto chemically treated Artocarpus odoratissimus skin: equilibrium, thermodynamics, and kinetics studies". Desalination and Water Treatment. 57 (22): 10246–10260. doi:10.1080/19443994.2015.1033474. ISSN 1944-3994.
• Lim, Linda B. L.; Priyantha, Namal; Ing, Chieng Hei; Dahri, Muhd Khairud; Tennakoon, D. T. B.; Zehra, Tasneem; Suklueng, Montri (2015-01-23). "Artocarpus odoratissimus skin as a potential low-cost biosorbent for the removal of methylene blue and methyl violet 2B". Desalination and Water Treatment. 53 (4): 964–975. doi:10.1080/19443994.2013.852136. ISSN 1944-3994.
4. Lim, Linda B. L.; Priyantha, Namal; Tennakoon, D. T. B.; Dahri, Muhd Khairud (2012-03-06). "Biosorption of cadmium(II) and copper(II) ions from aqueous solution by core of Artocarpus odoratissimus". Environmental Science and Pollution Research. 19 (8): 3250–3256. doi:10.1007/s11356-012-0831-2. ISSN 0944-1344.
• FAO.org: Under-utilized tropical fruits
• Artocarpus odoratissimus Marang/Tarap — with pictures of the fruit ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artocarpus_odoratissimus ON 3/17/2018]

Seed can be obtained from Tradewind, and here is their catalog description, 3090 - Artocarpus odoratissimus - Marang
A 1-2 pound fruit related to the jackfruit, looking somewhat like a smaller jackfruit. Fruits and roasted seeds are edible and the fruit is popular in parts of southeast Asia where it is native. Prefers a tropical climate for growth. Not as hardy as the jackfruit, protect from temperatures under 45F. Medium sized tree to 20-50 feet. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/1/messages/42156 ON 3/17/2018]

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] Discourse of Multiple Translations on John 14:28:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 819A]

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: Genesis 3:1 – 2, [AV] “

Here Satan the Devil assumes the shape of a serpent to try and mislead the first human pair into disobeying Almighty God (YHWH) and eating from the tree they were told not to at Geneses 2:17, [AV] “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” And an account of their disobedience is given at 2 Corinthians 11:2 – 3, [AV] “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” And today His son sends his followers to give a witness to all per Matthew 10:16, [AV] “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.”


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[2] Discourse of Multiple Translations on John 14:28:

Many fail to understand John 14:28 as its significance challenges their cherished BIAS for a false doctrine and say it does not say the same thing in other translations, but is this so? No it definitely is not, see the many translations below including the Manx Gaelic and all will see this argument is totally without foundation:

“28 ¶ Ye heard how I said to you, I go away, and I come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would have rejoiced, because I go unto the Father: for the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 ASV – American Standard Version of 1901)

“28 ¶ You have heard that I said to you: I go away, and I come unto you. If you loved me you would indeed be glad, because I go to the Father: for the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible)

“28 hkousate oti egw eipon umin upagw kai ercomai prov umav ei hgapate me ecarhte an oti eipon poreuomai prov ton patera oti o pathr mou meizwn mou estin” (John 14:28 Byzantine Greek Bible)

“28 ¶ Ye heard that, I, said unto you—I go my way, and I come unto you,—Had ye loved me, ye would have rejoiced, that I am going unto the Father, for, the Father, is, greater than I.” (John 14:28 Rothrham)

“28 ¶ Oísteis que yo os dije: "Voy y vuelvo a vosotros." Si me amarais, os gozaríais de que voy al Padre, porque el Padre es mayor que yo.” (John 14:28 RVA89 Spanish Bible)

“28 ¶ ye heard that I said to you—I go away, and I come unto you; if ye did love me, ye would have rejoiced that I said—I go on to the Father, because my Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 Young’s Literal Translation)

“You heard that I said to you, I am going away and I am coming [back] to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28 NWT)

“You have heard Me tell you, 'I am going away and I am coming to you.' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 Holman Standard Christian Bible)
“audistis quia ego dixi vobis vado et venio ad vos si diligeretis me gauderetis utique quia vado ad Patrem quia Pater maior me est” (John 14:28 Latin Vulgate Bible of Jerome)

“Ye have heard how I said unto you, `I go away and come again unto you.' If ye loved Me, ye would rejoice because I said, `I go unto the Father,' for My Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 Third Millennium Bible)

“You heard me say to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you.' If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 Revised Standard Version)

“Kom ihåg vad jag har sagt till er: jag går bort nu, men jag ska komma tillbaka till er. Om ni verkligen älskar mig ska ni glädja er med mig, för jag går till Fadern som är större än jag.” (Johannes 14:28 Standard Swedish Bible)

"You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 NIV – New International Version)

“Ihr habt gehört, daß ich euch gesagt habe: Ich gehe hin, und ich komme zu euch. Wenn ihr mich liebtet, so würdet ihr euch freuen, daß ich zum Vater gehe, denn der Vater ist größer als ich.” (Johannes 14:28 Standard German Bible)

“28You heard Me tell you, I am going away and I am coming [back] to you. If you [really] loved Me, you would have been glad, because I am going to the Father; for the Father is greater and mightier than I am.” (John 14:28 AMP – Amplified Bible)

“You heard me say, "I am going away and then I will come back to you." If you really loved me, then you would have been very glad that I am going to my Father. My Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28 WE – Worldwide English)

“Ta shiu er chlashtyn kys dooyrt mee riu, Ta mee goll roym, as cheet reesht hiu. Dy beagh shiu graihagh orrym, ghoghe shiu boggey, er-y-fa dy dooyrt mee, Ta mee goll roym gys my Ayr: son ta my Ayr ny syrjey na mish.
(John 14:28 ManxGaelic-InterBible)

“J????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? ?? ??? ?????. ?? ???? ??????? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ??? ????. ??? ??? ???? ???.” (
John 14:28: AraSVD)

Now do you understand that Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) clearly said, “My Father is greater than I am,” or do you need to see more translations to drive this all important point home?????????????????????????????????


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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] Discourse on Baptism:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 820A]

Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace. 38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off. Psalms 37:37 - 38, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

The righteous shall have a peaceful life in the new system to come, but the evil ones will not be found as shown by Isaiah 32:17 - 18, [AV] “And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. 18 And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;” But those leading susceptible righteous ones will have no future per Proverbs 28:10, [AV] “Whoso causeth the righteous to go astray in an evil way, he shall fall himself into his own pit: but the upright shall have good things in possession.”

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[2] Discourse on Baptism:

PART 1 – Necessary Step of Obedience for All Followers of Jesus

It is necessary for all followers of Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) to be baptized as clearly shown by the scriptures:

This was shown by the example of Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) getting baptized by John the Baptist in the Jordan river, “13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” (Matthew 3:13-17 AV). We are told, “ For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:” (1 Peter 2:21 AV).

He told his followers to, “19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” (Matthew 28:19-20 AV). And the Apostle Peter stated, “44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.” (Acts 10:44-48 AV). And ““ But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.” (Acts 8:12 AV)

PART 2 – Complete Immersion Required

On baptism, the Bible clearly shows that it should be by complete immersion and not by sprinkling. This is clearly shown as follows, “8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. 9 ¶ And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: 11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 12 And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness.” (Mark 1:8-12 AV). This was further highlighted “22 ¶ After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.” (John 3:23 AV). As can be seen, baptizing was always carried out near a significant body of water “36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.” (Acts 8:36-39 AV).

Now with Jesus being baptized as a necessary step of obedience to this Father (YHWH) and to open the way for his followers to do the will of him who sent him “13 ¶ Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” Therefore we should clearly follow his example and be baptized by full immersion in water if we are to accept the calling of Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) “ For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:” (1 Peter 2:21 AV), “19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” (Matthew 28:19-20 AV), “ And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.” (Acts 10:48 AV), “ But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.” (Acts 8:12 AV).

Now, you will note, they were to be baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and the Holy Ghost; therefore, it is important to know their names.

PART 3 – For A Valid Baptism One’s Life Must Harmonize With Bible Standards

Before one gets baptized, he should first repent of his/her past wrong doings, “ Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” (Acts 2:38 AV). You must put away, “22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.” (Ephesians 4:22-24 AV).

Last, we must turn away from deviant sexual appetite and sexual lust and cease being children of disobedience, “5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:” (Colossians 3:5-10 AV).

PART 4 – The Purpose of Baptism

Many individuals have the wrong impression about the purpose of Baptism. They feel its purpose is to wash away one’s sins, but that is incorrect. To fully understand the need for baptism, we must remember that, “ And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.” (Hebrews 9:22 AV); that Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves), “ Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:” (1 Peter 2:22 AV); “ And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.” (Mark 1:9 AV). These three scriptures highlight that Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) deemed it proper to get baptized, and clearly he was without sin; therefore, baptism can not be for the remission of sins, it must have another purpose.

Then, what is it for? Its purpose is to symbolize one’s dying to his/her former course of life and of his/her dedication to hence forth do the will of God. “ Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.” (1 Peter 2:24 AV) clearly shows that after baptism we are to live unto righteousness.

Therefore, the common practice of infant baptism is just as unscriptural as is baptism by sprinkling since complete immersion is a requirement as previously shown. It is necessary to embrace his words and an infant is not capable of doing so, “ Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.” (Acts 2:41 AV), this is further emphasized by, “ But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.” (Acts 8:12 AV), and by “21 ¶ Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,” (Luke 21-23 AV).

PART 5 – Baptizing In The Name Of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit

This section dealing with the command, “ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” (Matthew 28:19 AV). Most individuals are familiar with this scripture, but few understand the reason for baptizing this way.

Subpart – In the Name of the Father

This is necessary as it is recognizing the office or authority of Almighty God (YHWH) who created everything and who has always existed per Psalms 90:2. This is made clear, “ That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH [(YHWH)], art the most high over all the earth.” (Psalms 83:18 AV), which clearly shows that he is “the most high over all the earth.” And he is the source of live as stated, “ For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light.” (Psalms 36:9 AV)

He, Almighty God (YHWH), is the creator of all things, “ And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.” (2 Kings 19:15 AV), and “ For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” (Isaiah 33:22 AV).

Subpart – In The Name of the Son

This is necessary as it is recognizing the office or authority of the Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) who is the only begotten son and the first of creation by his Father (YHWH). His Father (YHWH) exalted him to a position only second only to himself, “9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:9-11 AV). And, he was given, “ And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” (Revelation 19:16 AV)

He proved faithful to his Father (YHWH), “ And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” (Revelation 1:5 AV); therefore, he became, “9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; 10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.” (Hebrews 5:9-10 AV).

And, last but not least, he became, ““ For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Timothy 2:5 AV), and “ And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.” (Hebrews 12:24 AV)

Subpart – In The Name of the Holy Spirit

This is necessary to recognize the function or activity of the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost). This is God’s (YHWH’s) active force that goes forth or emanates from Almighty God (YHWH). One of its functions is to act as a Comforter to mankind, “ But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” (John 14:26 AV), “16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.” (John 14:16-17 AV).

It is the Creator’s (YHWH’s) force for getting things accomplished, “ And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:” (Ephesians 6:17 AV), “ But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.” (1 Corinthians 2:10 AV).

God (YHWH) pours out his active force onto his followers, “28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.” (Joel 2:28-29 AV), and also caused inspired individuals to “ For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:21 AV).

Subpart – Warning

Baptism in the name of an organization or church is not in accord with the Word of God.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON THE MYSTERY OF THE CROSS:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 821A]

And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 2 Peter 2:5, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Almighty God (YHWH) wants both the angels and humans He created to be obedient as shown by 2 Peter 2:4, [AV] “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;” Yes, we must also believe that he is the Creator to win His approval as testified to at Hebrews 11:6 – 7, [AV] “But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. 7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.” And this wicked systems will soon be destroyed as shown by 2 Peter 3:5 – 7, [AV] “For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men”.

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[2] DISCOURSE ON THE MYSTERY OF THE CROSS:

Many believe that Jesus died on a cross, but let's consider whether this is so or not. First let's look at the Koine Greek word that many English translators translate as cross as given in Strong's Concordance with
Hebrew and Greek Lexicon shows, with the word commonly translated cross #4716.

4716 staurov stauros stow-ros'

from the base of 2476; TDNT-7:572,1071; n m

AV-cross 28; 28

1) a cross
1a) a well known instrument of most cruel and ignominious punishment, borrowed by the Greeks and Romans from the Phoenicians; to it were affixed among the Romans, down to the time of Constantine the Great, the guiltiest criminals, particularly the basest slaves, robbers, the authors and abetters of insurrections, and occasionally in the provinces, at the arbitrary pleasure of the governors, upright and peaceable men also, and even Roman citizens themselves
1b) the crucifixion which Christ underwent 2 an upright "stake", esp. a pointed one, used as such in fences or palisades

4716. staurov stauros stow-ros'; from the base of 2476; a stake or post (as set upright), i.e. (specifically) a pole or cross (as an instrument of capital punishment); figuratively, exposure to death, i.e. self-denial; by implication, the atonement of Christ:-cross.

As can be seen, there is a translation problem here as the Koine Greek word staurov stauros stow-ros' actually means an upright "stake." But for a clearer understanding let's look at what scholars in this area have to say instead of leaning on our own understanding and/or preconceived concepts.

Hislop and Wilkinson have the following also: "Now, this Pagan symbol seems first to have crept into the Christian Church in Egypt, and generally into Africa. A statement of Tertullian, about the middle of the third century, shows how much, by that time, the Church of Carthage was infected with the old leaven. Egypt especially, which was never thoroughly evangelised, appears to have taken the lead in bringing in this Pagan symbol. The first form of that which is called the Christian Cross, found on Christian monuments there, is the unequivocal Pagan Tau, or Egyptian "Sign of life." Let the reader peruse the following statement of Sir G. Wilkinson: "A still more curious fact may be mentioned respecting this hieroglyphical character [the Tau], that the early Christians of Egypt adopted it in lieu of the cross, which was afterwards substituted for it, prefixing it to inscriptions in the same manner as the cross in later times. For, though Dr. Young had some scruples in believing the statement of Sir A. Edmonstone, that it holds that position in the sepulchres of the great Oasis, I can attest that such is the case, and that numerous inscriptions, headed by the Tau, are preserved to the present day on early Christian monuments." The drift of this statement is evidently this, that in Egypt the earliest form of that which has since been called the cross, was no other than the "Crux Ansata," or "Sign of life," borne by Osiris and all the Egyptian gods; that the ansa or "handle" was afterwards dispensed with, and that it became the simple Tau, or ordinary cross, as it appears at this day, and that the design of its first employment on the sepulchres, therefore, could have no reference to the crucifixion of the Nazarene, but was simply the result of the attachment to old and long-cherished Pagan symbols, which is always strong in those who, with the adoption of the Christian name and profession, are still, to a large extent, Pagan in heart and feeling. This, and this only, is the origin of the worship of the "cross." " [The Two Babylon's, by Reverend Alexander Hilsop]

The Cross and Crucifixion.
This Is Appendix 162 From The Companion Bible.
In the Greek New Testament two words are used for "the cross" on which the Lord was put to death.
1. The word stauros; which denotes an upright pole or stake, to which the crimminals were nailed for execution.
2. The xulon, which generally denotes a piece of a dead log of wood, or timber, for fuel or for any other purpose. Is is not like dendron, which is used of a living, or green tree, as in Matthew 21:8; Revelation 7:1, 3; 8:7; 9:4, etc.
As this latter word xulon is used for the former stauros, it shows us that the meaning of each is exactly the same.
The verb stauroõ means to drive stakes.1
Our English word "cross" is the translation of the Latin crux; but the Greek stauros no more means a crux than the word "stick" means a "crutch".
Homer uses the word stauros of an ordinary pole or stake, or a single piece of timber.2 And this is the meaning and usage of the word throughout the Greek classics.3
It never means two pieces of timber placed across one another at any angle, but always of one piece alone. Hence the use of the word xulon (No. 2, above) in connection with the manner of our Lord's death, and rendered "tree" in Acts 5:30; 10:39; 13:29. Galatians 3:13. 1 Peter 2:24. This is preserved in our old English name rood, or rod. See the Encycl. Brit., 11th (Camb.) ed., volume 7, page 505d.
There is nothing in the Greek of the New Testament even to imply two pieces of timber.
The letter chi, , the initial of the word Christ , was originally used for His Name; or . This was superseded by symbols and , and even the first of these had four equal arms.
These crosses were used as symbols of the Babylonian sun-god, , and are first seen on a coin of Julius Cæsar, 100 - 44 B.C., and then on a coin struck by Cæsar's heir (Augustus), 20 B.C.4
On the coins of Constantine the most frequent symbol is ; but the same symbol is used without the surrounding circle, and with the four equal arms vertical and horizontal; and this was the symbol specially venerated as the "Solar Wheel". It should be stated that Constantine was a sun-god worshipper, and would not enter the "Church" till some quarter of a century after the legend of his having seen such a cross in the heavens (EUSEBIUS, Vit. Const. I. 37).
The evidence is the same as to the pre-Christian (phallic) symbol in Asia, Africa, and Egypt, whether we consult Nineveh by Sir A. H. LAYARD (ii 213), or Manners and Customs of the Ancient Egyptians, by Sir J. GARDNER WILKINSON, iii. pages 24, 26, 43, 44, 46, 52, 82, 136.
Dr. SCHLIEMANN gives the same evidence in his Ilios (1880), recording his discoveries on the site of prehistoric Troy. See pages 337, 350, 353, 521, 523.
Dr. MAX OHNEFALSCH - RICHTER gives the same evidence from Cyprus; and these are "the oldest extant Phoenician inscriptions"; see his Kypros, the Bible, and Homer : Oriental Civilisation, Art, and Religion in Ancient Times, Plates XIX, XXV, XXVI, XXX, XXXI, XXXII, XL, LVIII, LXIX, etc.
The Catacombs in Rome bear the same testimony : "Christ" is never represented there as "hanging on a cross", and the cross itself is only pourtrayed in a veiled and hesitating manner. In the Egyptian churches the cross was a pagan symbol of life, borrowed by the Christians, and interpreted in the pagan manner. See the Encycl. Brit., 11th (Camb.) ed., volume 14, page 273.
In his Letter from Rome Dean Burgon says : "I question whether a cross occurs on any Christian monument of the first four centuries".
In Mrs. Jameson's famous History of our Lord as Exemplified in Works of Art, she says (volume ii, page 315) : "It must be owned that ancient objects of art, as far as hitherto known, afford no corroboration of the use of the cross in the simple transverse form familiar to us, at any period preceding, or even closely succeeding, the time of Chrysostom"; and Chrysostom wrote half a century after Constantine!
"The Invention of the Cross" by Helena the mother of Constantine (in 326), though it means her finding of the cross, may or may not be true; but the "invention" of it in pre-Christian times, and the "invention" of its use in later times, are truths of which we need to be reminded in the present day. The evidence is thus complete, that the Lord was put to death upon an upright stake, and not on two piece of timber placed at any angle.
NOTES
1 There are two compounds of it used : sustauroo - to put any one thus to death with another (Matthew 27:44. Mark 15:32. John 19:32. Romans 6:6. Galatians 2:20); and anastauroo - to rise up and fix upon the stake again (Hebrews 6:6). Another word used is equally significant : prospegnumi - to fix or fasten anything (Acts 2:23).
2 Iliad xxiv. 453. Odyssey xiv. 11.
3 For example, Thucydides iv. 90. Xenophon, Anabasis v. 2. 21.
4 Other coins with this symbol were struck by Augustus, also by Hadrian and other Roman emperors. See Early Christian Numismatics, by C. W. King, M.A.
[http://www.therain.org/appendixes/app162.html]

"THE sign of the cross has been a symbol of great antiquity, present in nearly every known culture. Its meaning has eluded anthropologists, though its use in funerary art could well point to a defense against evil. On the other hand, the famous crux ansata of Egypt, depicted coming from the mouth, must refer to life or breath. The universal use of the sign of the cross makes more poignant the striking lack of crosses in early Christian remains, especially any specific reference to the event on Golgotha. Most scholars now agree that the cross, as an artistic reference to the passion event, cannot be found prior to the time of Constantine." [Ante Pacem-Archaeological Evidence of Church Life Before Constantine (1985), by Professor Graydon F. Snyder, page 27]

The Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, by M'Clintock and Strong, comments:
'Much time and trouble have been wasted in disputing as to whether three or four nails were used in fastening the Lord. Nonnus affirms that three only were used, in which he is followed by Gregory Nazianzen. The more general belief gives four nails, an opinion which is supported at much length and by curious arguments by Curtius. Others have carried the number of nails as high as fourteen.'- [The Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, by M'Clintock and Strong, Volume II, page 580]

"It is strange, yet unquestionably a fact, that in ages long before the birth of Christ, and since then in lands untouched by the teaching of the Church, the Cross has been used as a sacred symbol. . . . The Greek Bacchus, the Tyrian Tammuz, the Chaldean Bel, and the Norse Odin, were all symbolized to their votaries by a cruciform device." [The Cross in Ritual, Architecture, and Art (London, 1900), G. S. Tyack, p. 1. ]

"The shape of the [two-beamed cross] had its origin in ancient Chaldea, and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz (being in the shape of the mystic Tau, the initial of his name) in that country and in adjacent lands, including Egypt. By the middle of the 3rd cent. A.D. the churches had either departed from, or had travestied, certain doctrines of the Christian faith. In order to increase the prestige of the apostate ecclesiastical system pagans were received into the churches apart from regeneration by faith, and were permitted largely to retain their pagan signs and symbols. Hence the Tau or T, in its most frequent form, with the cross-piece lowered, was adopted to stand for the cross of Christ." [n Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words (London, 1962), W. E. Vine, p. 256.]

I believe the ANK may have been a form of cross, from the Egyption period. I would need to do some research to back this up, this is just a knee-jerk response to this post. Paul --- Mark McFall <markmcfall@jps.net> wrote: > Heinz (quoting 21st Century NT appendix) > > Christians are sometimes disturbed to learn that > the cross, > > considered for centuries as a Christian symbol, > had its origin long > > before Christ and was actually used in pagan > mythology.It was the > > symbol of the god Tammuz, and Bacchus, and the > Egyptian Osiris. > > Mac: Hey Heinz, I've read and heard similar comments > before. However, in > regards to Osiris, I have never come across > something that suggests that > the ancient Egyptians identified a cross with > Osiris. I've read quite a > bit from _The Book of the Dead_ and other primary > Egyptian texts (by > means of translations of course), but I haven't > found anything that > would hint at that beyond what I read from lazy > scholars like Feke and > Gandy. [Heinz Schmidt, Bible Scholar]

The concept of a cross as an item of veneration is admittedly pagan, "At successive periods this was modified, becoming curved at the extremities, or adding to them more complex lines or ornamental points, which latter also meet at the central intersection. The swastika is a sacred sign in India, and is very ancient and widespread throughout the East. It has a solemn meaning among both Brahmins and Buddhists, though the elder Burnouf ("Le lotus de la bonne loi, traduit du sanscrit", p. 625; Journ. Asiatic Soc. of Great Britain, VI, 454) believes it more common among the latter than among the former. It seems to have represented the apparatus used at one time by the fathers of the human race in kindling fire; and for this reason it was the symbol of living flame, of sacred fire, whose mother is Maia, the personification of productive power (Burnouf, La science des religions). It is also, according to Milani, a symbol of the sun (Bertrand, La religion des Gaulois, p. 159), and seems to denote its daily rotation. Others have seen in it the mystic representation of lightning or of the god of the tempest, and even the emblem of the Aryan pantheon and the primitive Aryan civilization. Emile Burnouf (op. cit., p. 625), taking the Sanskrit word literally, divided it into the particles su-asti-ka, equivalents of the Greek eu-estike. In this way, especially through the adverbial particle, it would mean "sign of benediction", or "of good omen" (svasti), also "of health" or "life". The particle ka seems to have been used in a causative sense (Burnouf, Dictionnaire sanscrit-français, 1866). The swastika sign was very widespread throughout the Orient, the seat of the oldest civilizations. The Buddhist inscriptions carved in certain caves of Western India are usually preceded or closed by this sacred sign (Thomas Edward, "The Indian Swastika", 1880; Philip Greg, "On the Meaning and Origin of the Fylfot and Swastika"). The celebrated excavations of Schliemann at Hissarlik on the site of ancient Troy brought to light numerous examples of the swastika: on spindle-racks, on a cube, sometimes attached to an animal, and even cut upon the womb of a female idol, a detail also noticeable on a small statue of the goddess Athis. The swastika sign is seen on Hittite monuments, e.g. on a cylinder ("The monuments of the Hittites" in "Transactions of the Soc. of Bibl. Archæology", VII, 2, p. 259. For its presence on Galatian and Bithynian monuments, see Guillaume and Perrot, "Exploration archéologique de la Galatie et de la Bithynie", Atlas, Pl. IX). We find it also on the coins of Lycia and of Gaza in Palestine. In the Island of Cyprus it is found on earthenware vessels. It originally represents, as again at Athens and Mycenæ, a flying bird. In Greece we have specimens of it on urns and vases of Botia, on an Attic vase representing a Gorgon, on coins of Corinth (Raoul-Rochette, "Mém. de l'acad. des inscr.", XVI, pt. II, 302 sqq.; "Hercule assyrien", 377-380; Minervini in "Bull. arch. Napolit.", Ser. 2, II, 178-179), and in the treasury of Orchomenus. It seems to have been unknown in Assyria, in Phnicia, and in Egypt. In the West it is most frequently found in Etruria. It appears on a cinerary urn of Chiusi, and on the fibula found in the famous Etruscan tomb at Cere (Grifi, Mon. di Cere, Pl. VI, no. 1). There are many such emblems on the urns found at Capanna di Corneto, Bolsena, and Vetulonia; also in a Samnite tomb at Capua, where it appears in the centre of the tunic of the person there depicted (Minervini, Bull. arch. Napolit., ser. 2, Pl. II, 178-179) This sign is also found in Pompeian mosaics, on Italo-Grecian vases, on coins of Syracuse in Sicily (Raoul-Rochette, "Mém. de l'acad. des inscr." Pl. XVI, pt. II, 302 sqq.; Minervini, "Bull. arch. Nap.", ser. 2, Pl. II, p. 178-179); finally among the ancient Germans, on a rock-carving in Sweden, on a few Celtic stones in Scotland, and on a Celtic stone discovered in the County of Norfolk, England, and now in the British Museum. The swastika, appears in an epitaph on a pagan tombstone of Tebessa in Roman Africa (Annuaire de la Société de Constantine, 1858-59, 205, 87), on a mosaic of the ignispicium (Ennio Quirino Visconti, Opere varie, ed. Milan, I, 141, sqq.), and in a Greek votive inscription at Porto. In the last monument the swastika is imperfect in form, and resembles a Phnician letter. We shall explain below the value and symbolical meaning of this crux gammata when found on Christian monuments. But the swastika is not the only sign of this kind known to antiquity. Cruciform objects have been found in Assyria. The statutes of Kings Asurnazirpal and Sansirauman, now in the British Museum, have cruciform jewels about the neck (Layard, Monuments of Nineveh, II, pl. IV). Cruciform earrings were found by Father Delattre in Punic tombs at Carthage. [The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume IV, Imprimatur. +John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York]

The Scriptures, by the Institute for Scripture Research, also uses the term "impale" (it also uses "stake"), but the 21st Century NT ignores the term. The Jewish NT has "execute him on a stake." The term "impale" may not be the best rendering here for an English reader, but it can have the meaning other than something being thrust thru. Consider Esther 9:13: "have the bodies of Haman's ten sons hung from the gallows." GNB However, the New Jewish Publication Society has: "let Haman's ten sons be impaled on the stake." [comments by Bible scholars and the New Jewish Publication Society]

A Comprehensive Dictionary of the Original Greek Words with their Precise Meanings for English Readers states: "STAUROS . . . denotes, primarily, an upright pale or stake. On such malefactors were nailed for execution." [A Comprehensive Dictionary of the Original Greek Words with their Precise Meanings for English Readers]

Similarly, the book The Non-Christian Cross observes:
"There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros [pole or stake]; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross." [The Non-Christian Cross]

Paul Wilhelm Schmidt, who was a professor at the University of Basel, in his work Die
Geschichte Jesu made a detailed study of the Greek word stau·ros'. On p. 386 of his work he said: "staur¬V [stau·ros'] means every upright standing pale or tree trunk." [Die Geschichte Jesu (The History of Jesus), Vol. 2, Tübingen and Leipzig, 1904, pp. 386-394]



Was Jesus nailed to the cross or tied with ropes? For many years, some Christian scholars denied that Jesus had been nailed to the cross for they claimed that no evidence could be found in the ancient sources that showed that crucified victims were nailed. They held to this belief, even though the New Testament makes it clear that Jesus was nailed (Luke 24:39; John 20:20, 24-29). Since that time, many examples of nailing have been found in the ancient sources. In addition to this, an archeological breakthrough occurred in June, 1968. For the first time ever, the remains of a crucified man were found in an ancient burial chamber in the northern portion of Jerusalem. The remains were from the time of Jesus, the first century A.D. The name of the crucified man was scratched onto the ossuary. His name was Jehohanan ben Hagqol. The nail driven through his feet was still in place in the feet. It was about 7 inches long and made of iron. Chemical examination of this nail revealed that the cross which the nail had been driven into had been made out of olive wood. Further evidence revealed that the nails had been driven, not through his palms, but through his wrists, between the radius and cubitus. The ancients considered the wrist to be part of the hand. This great archeological find clearly demonstrated once and for all that nails were used in crucifixion. [Hengel, Martin. Crucifixion: In the Ancient World and the Folly of the Message of the Cross. Translated by John Bowden. Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1977.]

Others show the "cross" as its commonly assumed form, but how reliable? "On 8 April 2000 the Daily Telegraph ran the first part of an extract from C.P. Thiede and Matthew d'Ancona's The Quest for the True Cross. This fragment is in the Church of Santa Croce in Gerusalemme ["Holy Cross in Jerusalem"], Rome, an intriguing clue indeed! The 'Titulus Crucis', as its known, was discovered in 1492 behind a 5th century mosaic being restored. This depicted "the legendary discovery of the True Cross in Jerusalem by the Empress Helena", mother of Emperor Constantine the Great, in 326 AD. In The Son of God / The Sun God I discussed the Holy Cross "vision" that led to Constantine's conversion. [See also Pillars of Fire, Holy Crosses and Flying Wheels ]. Now there's a more substantial reason for it... . D'Ancona says that, in 1998, when he and his co-author first saw the piece, it was with other relics. "in a small room...now known as the Chapel of St Helena, where the Fourth Century stonework of the Empress's palace can still be seen."
Today it is kept "under lock and key in a sequestered side-chapel" of Santa Croce under close scrutiny. Why? The article suggests that it's more than just the Church's unease over the on-going controversy surrounding the Turin Shroud, particularly regarding its authenticity. In 1988 , [http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/jj_tcgt.htm]

"The Greek term signifies an upright stake on which criminal were executed, with no suggestion of a cross-beam. In the Latin versions the term 'crux' was used, but according to Livy of the 1st century B.C., the word meant no more than an upright stake; it was only later that crux came to mean a cross. Josephus relates how 2,000 were crucified at one time ('Antiquities' book 17; 10:10) hardly practicable if crosses had to be made for each one. There are Greek words which denote a cross, but none of these appear in the in any of the four gospel accounts of Jesus' execution. At Galatians 3:13 Paul refers to the instrument as 'a timber' (A.V. a tree) a reference to the upright stake on which bodies of criminals were hanged under the Mosaic Law (Deut 21:22), and which Jesus fulfilled by his death.

Although (A.E. Knoch) uses "cross" in the text of the Concordant Literal Version, in the
Keyword Concordance under "cross" he says, "an upright stake or pale, without any crosspiece, now, popularly, cross". Under "crucify" he adds, "Drive a stake into the ground, fasten on a stake, impale, now popular usage, crucify, though there was no crosspiece". [Keyword Concordance by A.E. Knoch]

Some have contended that the Romans did use crosses for execution at that time although Livy refutes this. Even if this were so, the Romans were also careful to observe local customs as fas as possible to avoid unnecessarily upsetting the populace, and so likely would have modified their method to conform to the Jewish practice. A rough upright stake would be in any case less trouble to produce than a hewn cross with a joint strong enough to bear the weight of a man.

Christians are sometimes disturbed to learn that the cross, considered for centuries as a Christian symbol, had its origin long before Christ and was actually used in pagan mythology.It was the symbol of the god Tammuz, and Bacchus, and the Egyptian Osiris. It was worshipped by the Celtic druids and worn on necklaces by the Vestal Virgins of Rome...As the Greek text shows, Christ was not executed on a Cross, that symbol can be regarded for what it is, a pagan corruption of Christian worship introduced in the early centuries of our common era. Thus in harmony with 2 Cor 6:15 although long cherished, it is something that Christians should shun." [21st Century NT appendix ]

Since no ancient historian gave a vivid engineering description of exactly what instrument was actually used for crucifixion and the Koine Greek word actually means 'stake' it could have taken many forms and probably did as it is well known that the Romans varied their methods from time to time, but usually used olive wood in the area of Palestine, I guess this can be called a mystery and not fact as many take its shape or form to be as there is evidence both ways. However, it is an admitted pagan symbol even by the Catholic Encyclopedia and therefore should not be venerated.

Let's face it, I think we will agree that many use the figure of a cross as an object of worship, and where that happens we are no better than the pagans who did the very same thing. The cross is a symbol of Christ's humiliation, but we are saved through his BLOOD that was shed that day. Let us envision it this way. If our Saviour was killed by a gun, would we be hanging that around our necks. It is too macabre to sprinkle blood on our shirts to commemorate this important event, and using the cross as a symbol of our affection in the Lord Jesus Christ is not necessary. After all, we are walking by faith, not by sight. The important thing is " For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many." (Mark 10:45 AV).

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[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 822A]

Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; Ephesians 5:1, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

In ancient Israel, many of the religious leaders sought not Almighty God (YHWH) favor, but enrichment of their own position and stature per Matthew 23:4 – 5, [AV] “For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,” And 1 Corinthians 10:14, [AV] shows we should also, “Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON STAYING WITH THE CHRISTIAN ESSENTIALS AND NOT DRIFTING OFF INTO THE TRIVIAL:

It is high time for all true Christians to become/maintain focus as the end times draw ever nearer. Mainstream so called Christian denominations are asleep at the stick so to speak. They debate, argue, and discuss the superfluous and neglect the essentials; obviously they have been blinded to the urgent times we are now living in per 2 Corinthians 4:4, ""In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn upon them." (American Standard Version; ASV). Now this may seem to be a harsh thing to say, but shortly it will be shown to be an accurate statement.

There was an Italian economist, Vilfredo Pareto, who developed a chart or concept of defining what is essential and distinguishing it from what was not. Basically he stated 20% of the items/things in almost any situation would make up 80% or more of the essential or important things and that the remaining 80% of things were relatively unimportant or superfluous. This principle, Pareto's concept, holds with respect Bible items as will be shown, and it is these essential few we should stay focused on.

Some of the essential few are as follows:

1. Love of God (YHWH) and being obedient to him such as not violating the first, second, third, fourth commandments found at Exodus chapter 20, and his Son, Jesus (Yeshua).
2. The vindication of God's (YHWH's) name.
3. Love of neighbor, and the need to preach the Gospel of Christ and his Father (YHWH)..
4. Salvation
5. Repentance
6. Baptism
7. Creation
8. Rejection of false doctrine
9. Rejection of wrong doing and immorality.
10. Being on guard against Satan the Devil and his agents and their sneaky ways.

And the essential few things make up probably 90% of all the things of importance to true followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ

Now let's consider a few examples of none essential items that generate heated discussions, but amount to only trivials as they are none essentials:

1. How many nails the Roman executioners used when executing Jesus (Yeshua). A trivial none essential that one mainstream denomination took so seriously that they even had individuals who disagreed with them with respect to the exact nail count burnt at the stake. How trivial and anti-Christian, and a none essential to true Christian faith or a real 'so what.'
2. Whether the Ptolemaic System or the Copernican System was correct, and one mainstream denomination took so seriously their belief in the Ptolemaic System that they even had some who disagreed with them by supporting the Copernican System burnt at the stake. How trivial and none essential to true Christian faith and a real 'so what', and the actions taken by the denomination supporting the Ptolemaic System so anti-Christian.
3. Exactly how to pronounce God's (YHWH's) proper name in English. Some maintain it is Jehovah, others Yahweh, or something else when the important thing is to show reverence for it. Yet many get caught up in useless arguments about its exact pronunciation in English which of course is unknown; a none essential to true Christian faith or a real 'so what.'
4. Whether Jesus (Yeshua) was also Michael the Archangel, there are strong indicators that he might have been. However, whether he was or was not is a trivial and a none essential to true Christian faith or a real 'so what.'
5. One Roman Catholic Priest, The Rev. Paul R. Shanley, in Massachusetts used to argue very vigorously over how many angels could dance on the head of a pin, but sorely violated the essential item for Christians of maintaining good moral conduct per Romans 1:26-27 by sodomizing children and openly supporting an organization dedicated to sodomizing of children. Obviously arguing about trivials was to him essential, but obedience to true Christian principles was NOT. This is what happens when one does NOT keep focused on the essentials.
6. Vigorous arguments by so called Christians over who was the commanding general of the Mehunims who fought against King Uzziah, but whether he was named this or that is a trivial and a none essential to true Christian faith or a real 'so what.'
7. Arguments within one mainstream so called Christian faith over who you should pray to make intercessions and/or mediate on your behalf with Almighty God (YHWH) when the scriptures clearly show at 1 Timothy 2:5, there is only one mediator, "For there is one God, one mediator also between God and men, himself man, Christ Jesus." (ASV). This just shows how far a field a denomination can get when they do not keep focused on the true Christian essentials.
8. Silly arguments about God (YHWH) and what a god is when the Bible clearly states, at John 10:22 "And it was the feast of the dedication at Jerusalem: and it was winter. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple, in Solomon's porch. 24 The Jews therefore came round about him and said to him: How long dost thou hold our souls in suspense? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. 25 Jesus answered them: I speak to you, and you believe not: the works that I do in the name of my Father, they give testimony of me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of my sheep. 27 My sheep hear my voice. And I know them: and they follow me. 28 And I give them life everlasting: and they shall not perish for ever. And no man shall pluck them out of my hand. 29 That which my Father hath given me is greater than all: and no one can snatch them out of the hand of my Father. 30 I and the Father are one. 31 The Jews then took up stones to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them: Many good works I have shewed you from my Father. For which of those works do you stone me? 33 The Jews answered him: For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy: and because that thou. being a, man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your law: I said, you are gods? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God was spoken; and the scripture cannot be broken: 36 Do you say of him whom the Father hath sanctified and sent into the world: Thou blasphemest; because I said: I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though you will not believe me, believe the works: that you may know and believe that the Father is in me and I in the Father. 39 They sought therefore to take him: and he escaped out of their hands. 40 And he went again beyond the Jordan, into that place where John was baptizing first. And there he abode. 41 And many resorted to him: and they said: John indeed did no sign. 42 But all things whatsoever John said of this man were true. And many believed n him. (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible; DRCB) An example provided a ancient people of what can happen when a denomination can get when they do not keep focused on the true godly essentials, they wanted to kill God's (YHWH's) only begotten Son because he told them who he was. Boy can people who do not maintain godly focus really go a field.

And last a admonition from an Apostle Not to become a stumbling block to the weak because of our godly knowledge:

1 Corinthians 8:1-13 "Now concerning those things that are sacrificed to idols: we know we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up: but charity edifieth. 2 And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he hath not yet known as he ought to know. 3 But if any man love God, the same is known by him. 4 But as for the meats that are sacrificed to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world and that there is no God but one. 5 For although there be that are called gods, either in heaven or on earth (for there be gods many and lords many): 6 Yet to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him: and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
7 But there is not knowledge in every one. For some until this present, with conscience of the idol, eat as a thing sacrificed to an idol: and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. 8 But meat doth not commend us to God. For neither, if we eat, shall we have the more: nor, if we eat not, shall we have the less. 9 But take heed lest perhaps this your liberty become a stumblingblock to the weak. 10 For if a man see him that hath knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not his conscience, being weak, be emboldened to eat those things which are sacrificed to idols? 11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ hath died? 12 Now when you sin thus against the brethren and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Wherefore, if meat scandalize my brother, I will never eat flesh, lest I should scandalize my brother. (DRCB).

Conclusion, stay focused on the essentials for Christians and do not allow yourself to lose focus and go off on a tangent.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 823A]

I will remember the works of the LORD: surely I will remember thy wonders of old. 12 I will meditate also of all thy work, and talk of thy doings. Psalms 77:11 – 12, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

This truth is echoed at Matthew 24:12 – 13, [AV] “And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” And at Acts 26:20, [AV] “But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.” Clearly showing the need to repent and bring our thinking in line with that of the true God.

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the, BACCAUREA ANGULATA - Belimbing Hutan

General Information
Baccaurea angulata is a tree with a dense crown growing 6 - 21 metres tall. The bole is unbuttressed; it can be 10 - 40cm in diameter[
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The tree is harvested from the wild for its edible fruit, which is eaten locally.
Known Hazards
None known
Range
Southeast Asia - Malaysia, Indonesia.
Habitat
Primary and secondary rain forest, riverine and non-riverine forests at elevations from sea level to 800 metres[
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Cultivation Details

Found in the wild on sandstone or laterite soils[
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A dioecious species, both male and female forms need to be grown if fruit and seed are required[
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Edible Uses
Fruit - raw[
]. A sweet to sour flavour[

]. The obovoid fruit can be 50cm long and 26mm wide[
Medicinal
We have no specific information on this species, but the bark of several members of this genus is used to relieve eye inflammation[
Agroforestry Uses:
In common with other trees that produce their flowers and fruits on the trunk of the tree, members of this genus are generally considered to be good support trees for the climbing rattan palms, which are grown to provide material for basket making, weaving into furniture, making ropes etc[
Other Uses
We have no specific information for this species, but the bark of several members of this genus is used, along with other ingredients, as a dyestuff to colour silk yellow, red or mauve, using the dyeing process known as 'pekan' in Malay[

Although we have no specific information for this species, most members of this genus produce an excellent timber, which can be used to build houses and boats and to make furniture[ ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Baccaurea+angulata ON 3 /17/2018]

Seeds can be obtained from Tradewind, and here is their catalog description, 3565 - Baccaurea angulata - Belimbing Hutan
a.k.a. Rosok. An extremely rare fruit from the jungles of Borneo, rarely seen anywhere else in the world. The fruits are bright red, with a neon sheen and grow to around the size of a golf ball. Flesh is translucent white and is usually eaten fresh. The fruits are very exotic and distinctive in appearance, lending towards their overall ornamental value. Fast-growing tree, needs tropical conditions for growth. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/1/messages/42156 ON 3 /17/2018]

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] A DISCOURSE ON ISAIAH 9:6, WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 824A]

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:22 – 24, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

As 2 Corinthians 13:11,says, [AV] “Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.” All genuine worshippers of Almighty God (YHWH), whould be per Romans 16:17, [AV] “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” And this is further testified to in Romans 15:5 – 6, [AV] “Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: 6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

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[2] A DISCOURSE ON ISAIAH 9:6, WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 ASV-American Standard Version)
“parvulus enim natus est nobis filius datus est nobis et factus est principatus super umerum eius et vocabitur nomen eius Admirabilis consiliarius Deus fortis Pater futuri saeculi Princeps pacis” (Isaiah 9:6 Latin Vulgate)
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 AV)
Built around, “Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible” by Fausset B. Jamieson with scriptures given in sets for many different Bible translations to avoid the bias of any one:

1)Isaiah 9:6. For--the ground of these great expectations, unto us--for the benefit of the Jews first, and then the Gentiles (compare "unto you," “for there is born to you this day in the city of David a Saviour, who is Christ the Lord.” ( Luke 2:11 ASV) son . . . given—“I will tell of the decree: Jehovah said unto me, Thou art my son; This day have I begotten thee.” (Psalms 2:7 ASV). God's gratuitous gift, on which man had no claim, ““ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16 AV) and “ For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Romans 6:23 AV). [[You will note that Jehovah (YHWH) called his his son, “Thou art my son” that he have because he so loved the world]]

2)Government . . . upon . . . shoulder--The ensign of office used to be worn on the shoulder, in token of sustaining the government “I will give him the key to the house of David – the highest position in the royal court. He will open doors, and no one will be able to shut them; he will close doors, and no one will be able to open them.” (Isaiah 22:22 New Living Translation). Here the government on Messiah's shoulder is in marked antithesis to the "yoke and staff" of the oppressor on Israel's "shoulder" “For God will break the chains that bind his people and the whip that scourges them, just as he did when he destroyed the army of Midian with Gideon's little band.” (Isaiah 9:4 New Living Translation). He shall receive the kingdom of the earth from the Father, to vindicate it from the misrule of those to whom it was entrusted to hold it for and under the Most High, but who sought to hold it in defiance of His right; the Father asserts His right by the Son, the "Heir of all things," who will hold it for Him “"I saw in the night visions, and behold, one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him. [[Notice God (YHWH) figuratively gave him “the key to the house of David” and that he, Jesus (Jeshua) would “receive the kingdom of the earth from his Father (YHWH), so they were obviously two distinct entities with the superior, YHWH, giving things to the lessor, his son, Jesus (Jeshua)]]

3)And there was given Him dominion and glory and a Kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His Kingdom that which shall not be destroyed” (Daniel 7:13,14 Third Millennium Bible). name . . . called--His essential characteristics shall be. “And the angel of the LORD said unto him, "Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret?" (Judges 13:18 Third Millennium Bible), “Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in [the] world, was received up in glory.’” (1 Timothy 3:16 NWT). [[note, here again they are shown to be two distinct entities with the superior, YHWH, giving things to the lessor, his son, Jesus (Jeshua)]]

4)Counsellor-- “I shall bless Jehovah, who has given me advice. Really, during the nights my kidneys have corrected me.” (Psalms 16:7 NWT), “Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and the knowledge of God! How unsearchable His judgments and untraceable His ways!” (Romans 11:33-34 The Holman Christian Standard Bible), “Yet to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is God's power and God's wisdom, “ (1 Corinthians 1:24 The Holman Christian Standard Bible), “In him lie hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.” (Colossians 2:3 The New Living Translation).

5)A mighty God—“ A remnant of them will return to the Mighty God.” (Isaiah 10:21 The New Living Translation), “Who is the King of glory? The LORD, strong and mighty, the LORD, mighty in battle!” ( Psalms 24:8 Revised Standard Version), “awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,” (Titus 2:13 Revised Standard Version). HORSLEY translates: "God the mighty man." "Unto us . . . God" is equivalent to "Immanuel" “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: behold, an almah shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanu'el.” (Isaiah 7:14 Hebrew Names Version). [[Note, here it brings out the lessor one, Jesus (Jeshua), is given by the superior one, God Almighty (WHYH) as a sign, see Isaiah 7:14 above]]

6)Everlasting Father--This marks Him as "Wonderful," that He is "a child," yet the "everlasting Father" “Yeshua said to him, "Have I been with you such a long time, and do you not know me, Pilipos? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How do you say, 'Show us the Father?'” (John 14:9 Hebrew Names Version). Earthly kings leave their people after a short reign; He will reign over and bless them for ever [HENGSTENBERG]. “The sceptre shall not be taken away from Juda, nor a ruler from his thigh, till he come that is to be sent, and he shall be the expectation of nations.” (Genesis 49:10 Douay-Rheims Bible) (Shiloh, "The Tranquillizer"). Finally “And in that day I will make a covenant with them, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of the air, and with the creeping things of the earth: and I will destroy the bow, and the sword, and war out of the land: and I will make them sleep secure.” (Hosea 2:18 Douay-RheimsBible). Even already He is "our peace" “Glory to God in the highest, and on the earth peace among men with whom he is well pleased.” (Luke 2:14 The Bible in Basic English), “For he is our peace, who has made the two into one, and by whom the middle wall of division has been broken down,” (Ephesians 2:14 The Bible in Basic English). [[Here Jesus (Jeshua), the lessor one, lets it be known that he is the glory of his Father, the superior one (YHWH)]]

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17 (Philippians 2:5-8 AV). He was referred to in prophecy in the Old Testament as a Mighty God, but not as the Almighty God (YHWH), which clearly shows he was a very powerful spirit creature second in power and glory only to his Father “ For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 AV). When the proper time arrived, he was sent by his Father, ), Almighty God (YHWH), to earth “ But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,” (Galatians 4:4 AV), “And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. 34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” (Luke 1:30-35 AV).

Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) is clearly the son of Almighty God (YHWH). With respect to his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) the scriptures clearly show he always existed “ Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.” (Psalms 90:2 AV); whereas, with Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) the scriptures clearly show “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:” (Colossians 1:14-15 AV), and likewise call him ““ For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 AV). Notice, he is NOT called Almighty God, but mighty God; quite different from his Father. Furthermore, he is called, “The everlasting Father,” I want you to notice how it says that this Son will be called “Everlasting Father”. But wait, notice it says “Son” will be “called”. How is one to understand that a “Son” will be called a “Father”? We see many people do not understand this scripture, and “think” they do understand.” “ Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?” (Matthew 26:53 AV), Now we understand that there has to be someone else in order for this to be true. “ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.” (John 17:11 AV), obviously, you do not have to be a scientist to know there is two beings involved here. “ As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.” (John 6:57 AV), here also, it is so obvious that two entities are being spoken about a 4 th. Grader would see it.

Now we understand that The Son is not The Father. So why does it say in Isaiah 9:6 that The Son will be called “Everlasting Father”? Let’s look at some scripture, John 17:22-26 AV, “And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24 ¶ Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.” “ Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” (John 14:10 AV); The Father dwells in the Son, so now we know why The Son is “called” Everlasting Father, because the Everlasting Father is in the Son. So the understanding is: If I come to to The Son and say to him “Father”, he will reply, Yes, Son?”. But why is he called the mighty God? The Father is the Almighty God, so if I come to to The Son and say to him “mighty God”, he will reply, “Yes, what can I do for you?”. This is because the Almighty God (YHWH) dwells in The Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves). To sumarize, I will provide some scripture for a further understanding, “ Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. 21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled 22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: 23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister; 24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church: Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; 26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: 29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.” (Colossians 1:12-29 AV), “ And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” (1 John 5:20 AV), and this is one of my favorite scriptures that explains that The True God is in The Son, and we are in The True God who is in The Son, try reading the scriptures above where the Father is in The Son and we in The Father and we in The Son. So now the understanding is clear that the Son is not the Almighty God (YHWH), and the Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), is not the Everlasting Father. Let the truth be known, “ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” (Deuteronomy 6:4 AV), this is Unsullied Monotheism That Does Not Support Unity For Another.

For additional proof/evidence the Trinity is false dogma, see Post, “Discourse on John 1:1” and the three letters of Bro. Scaramastro on the same thread, “Discourse on Isaiah 9:6,” “Discourse on Isaiah 9:7,” “Discourse on 1 Timothy 3:16,” “The Trinity is False Doctrine – Revised,” etc. on this BB. Also go to the resources mentioned in these writings and especially to the following Links:
http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/default.htm (The Two Babylons, by Rev. Alexander Hilsop)
http://reslight.addr.com/greatdebate.html (The Great Debate Regarding The Father, Son & Holy Spirit; An exhaustive verse-by-verse, side-by-side; by Roger Wagner)
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/bsl/Library/Doctrine/Trinity/Debate/TGD1.pdf (book on great trinitarian/arius debate on line)
http://www.christianeducational.org/faq/v1i3.pdf
http://www.antipas.org/magazine/editor/trinity/letter1.html (against Trinity clearly shows father and son different)
http://www.tellway-publishing.com ("Jesus-God or the Son of God?" by Brian Holt – one of the best)
http://members.aol.com/hector3001/christology.htm


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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON ISAIAH 9:7


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 825A]

in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:21 – 23, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

As shown in Deuteronomy 32:- 29, [AV] “For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them. 29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!” clearly showing that many are ‘stiff necked’ and confident in their own wisdom instead of obeying Almighty God (YHWH). But those who desire truth shall seek after it and win God’s approval per Psalms 51:6, [AV] “Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.”

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[2] Discourse on Isaiah 9:7
“Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.” (Isaiah 9:7 AV)
Isaiah 9:7 is a prophecy of what we pray for in the prayer given by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) at “9 ¶ After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” (Matthew 6:9-15 AV) It shows that God Almighty (YHWH) has purposed to have his righteousness done on earth as it is in Heaven at his own due time and to have his son, by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), rule it. This will happen at the end-times, and even God’s son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), does not know when this will happen, but only his Father (YHWH), “ But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” (Matthew 24:36 AV). This clearly shows a superior, the Father (YHWH), who has control of everything, and a lessor or subordinate, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), who does his Father (YHWH) will. In fact, this arrangement is clearly defined as to order, “ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV). The Bible clearly shows that the superior, Almighty God (YHWH) will subject all things onto his son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), until he gets them into order for him (YHWH) and then the son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), will subject himself to him, “ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV). The son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), is clearly shown as subordinate and only being able to do what his Father (YHWH) permits, “ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19 AV).

The son’s rule is pictured as ruling over a perpetual kingdom where his perpetual princely rule shall increase and be unlimited at “ And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.” (Daniel 2:44 AV), and this is just another prophecy about the fulfillment of the Lord’s prayer previously given. He will figuratively sit on the throne of David “ Therefore now, LORD God of Israel, keep with thy servant David my father that thou promisedst him, saying, There shall not fail thee a man in my sight to sit on the throne of Israel; so that thy children take heed to their way, that they walk before me as thou hast walked before me.” (1 Kings 8:25 AV) to fulfill the promise God (YHWH) had made to David about the Messiah, “ The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.” (Psalms 132:11 AV), the Lord (a title and not a name) here being Almighty God (YHWH) as Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) had not yet entered the scene. “Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7 ¶ I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.” (Psalms 2:6-8 AV), clearly shows God’s (YHWH’s) intent to put his son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), whom he had begotten, on the figurative throne of David as part of “thine inheritance” with respect “the utter most parts of the earth.” “At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart. 18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.” (Jeremiah 3:17-18 AV), here it clearly shows that God (YHWH) was applying the throne of David not just to the nation of Israel (Judah), but to the entire earth. God (YHWH) then reiterates his intent, “And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. 24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it. 25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods. 26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.,” (Ezekiel 34:23-26 AV), here God Almighty is likening his son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) to the ancient King David who was a shepherd, “And I will set up one shepherd over them” “and I the LORD [YHWH] will be their God, and my servant David a prince [Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves)] among them.” “Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. 18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these? 19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. 20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:” (Ezekiel 37:16-22 AV) clearly shows the Lord GOD (YHWH) since Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) had not yet entered the scene and proved his faithfulness to his Father, YHWH, and that he would put the “children of Israel” under a king who would be “one king shall be a king to them all” [all here means everyone obedient to him, otherwise the Lord’s prayer would not be valid]. This is made very sure and clear in the New Testament, “He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.” Luke 1:32-33 AV), here God the Almighty (YHWH) speaks of his Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and says he, the Lord (JHWH) shall give it to him, his Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), clearly showing once more a superior, Almighty God (YHWH), giving something to a lessor or subordinate, his son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves). This relationship is once more reinforced at “ Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;” (Acts 2:30 AV), clearly shows once more a superior, God (YHWH) stating under “sworn with an oath” to give Christ, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), a lessor or subordinate the figurative throne of David.

This will not be a kingdom of mere might, and triumph of force over its enemies, but of righteousness and justice attainable only in and by the Messiah, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and this is made clear “ The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness’ sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.” (Isaiah 42:21 AV), “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.” (Psalms 45:6-7 AV). With respect ‘zeal’ this includes not only Christ’s, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), hidden spiritual victory over the Devil during his first coming, but the principle one that will be accompanied with the ‘judgments’ on the Antichrist and all other enemies at his second coming, “ For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.” (Isaiah 59:17 AV), “O thou enemy, destructions are come to a perpetual end: and thou hast destroyed cities; their memorial is perished with them. 7 But the LORD shall endure for ever: he hath prepared his throne for judgment. 8 And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.” (Psalms 9:6-8 AV).

Last, but not least, Note, also, that this son did not exist at the time the prophet was giving the message for the future tense is talked about. Note, also, that this son is talked about as having to be conceived and born in order to exist. Note that this special son is not talked about as already existing and taking on a new form as The Trinitarian Doctrine would require it. In fact, how can a son be co-equal and co-existent with his father? The Doctrine of The Trinity defies the universally accepted and historically always held meaning of the words for father and son. Not only does it defy the meaning of these words, it destroys their meaning! This fact is important to realize for God gave us language. It was not invented by man as the evolutionist tries to say. Thus, we are not destroying man made terms, but God-given terms! These terms, as given to us by God, require that the father exists before the son, and for the son to be brought into existence by the father. This universally accepted and recognized definition is what these terms have meant from the beginning of this creation. Therefore, who has given anyone the authority to change these God-given terms now? In fact, The Lord Jesus Christ verifies the meaning of these terms when he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." (John 13:16 AV) "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (John 14:28 AV).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON ISAIAH 9:7


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 825A]

in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:21 – 23, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

As shown in Deuteronomy 32:- 29, [AV] “For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them. 29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!” clearly showing that many are ‘stiff necked’ and confident in their own wisdom instead of obeying Almighty God (YHWH). But those who desire truth shall seek after it and win God’s approval per Psalms 51:6, [AV] “Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.”

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[2] Discourse on Isaiah 9:7
“Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.” (Isaiah 9:7 AV)
Isaiah 9:7 is a prophecy of what we pray for in the prayer given by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) at “9 ¶ After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” (Matthew 6:9-15 AV) It shows that God Almighty (YHWH) has purposed to have his righteousness done on earth as it is in Heaven at his own due time and to have his son, by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), rule it. This will happen at the end-times, and even God’s son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), does not know when this will happen, but only his Father (YHWH), “ But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” (Matthew 24:36 AV). This clearly shows a superior, the Father (YHWH), who has control of everything, and a lessor or subordinate, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), who does his Father (YHWH) will. In fact, this arrangement is clearly defined as to order, “ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV). The Bible clearly shows that the superior, Almighty God (YHWH) will subject all things onto his son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), until he gets them into order for him (YHWH) and then the son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), will subject himself to him, “ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV). The son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), is clearly shown as subordinate and only being able to do what his Father (YHWH) permits, “ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19 AV).

The son’s rule is pictured as ruling over a perpetual kingdom where his perpetual princely rule shall increase and be unlimited at “ And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.” (Daniel 2:44 AV), and this is just another prophecy about the fulfillment of the Lord’s prayer previously given. He will figuratively sit on the throne of David “ Therefore now, LORD God of Israel, keep with thy servant David my father that thou promisedst him, saying, There shall not fail thee a man in my sight to sit on the throne of Israel; so that thy children take heed to their way, that they walk before me as thou hast walked before me.” (1 Kings 8:25 AV) to fulfill the promise God (YHWH) had made to David about the Messiah, “ The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.” (Psalms 132:11 AV), the Lord (a title and not a name) here being Almighty God (YHWH) as Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) had not yet entered the scene. “Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7 ¶ I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.” (Psalms 2:6-8 AV), clearly shows God’s (YHWH’s) intent to put his son, (Jeshua or YHWH saves), whom he had begotten, on the figurative throne of David as part of “thine inheritance” with respect “the utter most parts of the earth.” “At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart. 18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.” (Jeremiah 3:17-18 AV), here it clearly shows that God (YHWH) was applying the throne of David not just to the nation of Israel (Judah), but to the entire earth. God (YHWH) then reiterates his intent, “And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. 24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it. 25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods. 26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.,” (Ezekiel 34:23-26 AV), here God Almighty is likening his son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) to the ancient King David who was a shepherd, “And I will set up one shepherd over them” “and I the LORD [YHWH] will be their God, and my servant David a prince [Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves)] among them.” “Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. 18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these? 19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. 20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:” (Ezekiel 37:16-22 AV) clearly shows the Lord GOD (YHWH) since Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) had not yet entered the scene and proved his faithfulness to his Father, YHWH, and that he would put the “children of Israel” under a king who would be “one king shall be a king to them all” [all here means everyone obedient to him, otherwise the Lord’s prayer would not be valid]. This is made very sure and clear in the New Testament, “He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.” Luke 1:32-33 AV), here God the Almighty (YHWH) speaks of his Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and says he, the Lord (JHWH) shall give it to him, his Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), clearly showing once more a superior, Almighty God (YHWH), giving something to a lessor or subordinate, his son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves). This relationship is once more reinforced at “ Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;” (Acts 2:30 AV), clearly shows once more a superior, God (YHWH) stating under “sworn with an oath” to give Christ, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), a lessor or subordinate the figurative throne of David.

This will not be a kingdom of mere might, and triumph of force over its enemies, but of righteousness and justice attainable only in and by the Messiah, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and this is made clear “ The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness’ sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.” (Isaiah 42:21 AV), “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.” (Psalms 45:6-7 AV). With respect ‘zeal’ this includes not only Christ’s, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), hidden spiritual victory over the Devil during his first coming, but the principle one that will be accompanied with the ‘judgments’ on the Antichrist and all other enemies at his second coming, “ For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.” (Isaiah 59:17 AV), “O thou enemy, destructions are come to a perpetual end: and thou hast destroyed cities; their memorial is perished with them. 7 But the LORD shall endure for ever: he hath prepared his throne for judgment. 8 And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.” (Psalms 9:6-8 AV).

Last, but not least, Note, also, that this son did not exist at the time the prophet was giving the message for the future tense is talked about. Note, also, that this son is talked about as having to be conceived and born in order to exist. Note that this special son is not talked about as already existing and taking on a new form as The Trinitarian Doctrine would require it. In fact, how can a son be co-equal and co-existent with his father? The Doctrine of The Trinity defies the universally accepted and historically always held meaning of the words for father and son. Not only does it defy the meaning of these words, it destroys their meaning! This fact is important to realize for God gave us language. It was not invented by man as the evolutionist tries to say. Thus, we are not destroying man made terms, but God-given terms! These terms, as given to us by God, require that the father exists before the son, and for the son to be brought into existence by the father. This universally accepted and recognized definition is what these terms have meant from the beginning of this creation. Therefore, who has given anyone the authority to change these God-given terms now? In fact, The Lord Jesus Christ verifies the meaning of these terms when he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." (John 13:16 AV) "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (John 14:28 AV).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON JESUS BEFORE HE WAS BORN A MAN ON EARTH:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 826A]

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:3, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, life eternal is knowing the only true God, Almighty God (YHWH), and His son, Jesus (Yeshua), and not from greedy gain per Proverbs 15:27, [AV] “He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.” Aman should speak with joy per Proverbs 15:23, [AV] “A man hath joy by the answer of his mouth: and a word spoken in due season, how good is it!” As 1 Samuel 8:23, [AV] “And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.” And onto God and His son.

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[2] DISCOURSE ON JESUS BEFORE HE WAS BORN A MAN ON EARTH:

Before the life force of Jesus was put into the Virgin Mary, he was the firstborn/created of every creature, ““ Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:” (Colossians 1:15 AV), “ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” (Revelation 3:14 AV). He was a powerful spirit being, the only begotten of his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) and had the glory that went with his position at the right hand of his Father “ And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” (John 17:5 AV). He was created by his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) long before the creation of the earth “ Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:58 AV). Almighty God (YHWH) created all other things through him “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.” (Colossians 1:16-17 AV), “ He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.” (John 1:10 AV). However, then and now, he was a lessor or subordinate to ). Almighty God (YHWH) “ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 AV), “ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV), “ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19 AV), “ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV), “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.” (Philippians 2:5-8 AV). He was referred to in prophecy in the Old Testament as a Mighty God, but not as the Almighty God (YHWH), which clearly shows he was a very powerful spirit creature second in power and glory only to his Father “ For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6 AV). When the proper time arrived, he was sent by his Father, ), Almighty God (YHWH), to earth “ But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,” (Galatians 4:4 AV), “And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” (Luke 1:30-35 AV).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] A DISCOURSE ON UNDERSTANDING JOHN 1:1.


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 827A]

And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:15 – 17, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Young Timothy was well reported on by one and all and the Apostle Paul assisted him on becoming more mature is the truth as reported on at acts 16:1 – 3, [AV] “Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: 2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. 3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.” And as noted by the Apostle John,at John 20:31, [AV] “But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.” And the Apostle John went on to record Jesus (Yeshua) thoughts at, John 14:26, [AV] “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”

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[2] A DISCOURSE ON UNDERSTANDING JOHN 1:1.

This discourse will not go down into an in depth explanation of the translating challenges provided by the rather unusual construction of the Apostle John’s original writing in Koine (ancient) Greek. Sufficient to say the ancient Greek language had a certain amount of ambiguity as does modern English. Most English translations including the Authorized King James Version (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) (TNAB), New world Translation (NWT), Goodspeed, Torrey, New English of 1961, Moffatt of 1972, International English Bible (IEB), International Bible Translators N.T. 1981 (IBT), Philip Harner of 1974, Translator's NT of 1973 (TNT), Scholar's Version of 1993, etc. have all made an effort to make the scriptures easier to read and have tried to remove ambiguity of the original text. For example, if the literal text were to say: "The love of God". The translator may decide to translate the text: "God's love for you", or he might translate it: "Your love for God". The reader can interpret the original text either way. when the translator chooses one of the ways to translate a text and eliminates the ambiguity, you miss the opportunity to view the text in other ways. The reader must (if objectivity is to be maintained) keep in mind that the translators of any Bible version were believers in one of the doctrine or beliefs with regard how God Almighty (YHWH), Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and the spirit or Holy Ghost relate to each other of which there are five principle beliefs, Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, Arian Theology, Unitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology. Therefore, bias will and does exist in translation depending on the translator’s theology. This is especially true with respect John 1:1 because of its unique and ambiguous grammatical structure it allows for translators to translate it at least nine different ways that all have equal validity from the language structure point of view, in that none of these can either A discourse on understanding John 1:1.

This discourse will not go down into an in depth explanation of the translating challenges provided by the rather unusual construction of the Apostle John’s original writing in Koine (ancient) Greek. Sufficient to say the ancient Greek language had a certain amount of ambiguity as does modern English. Most English translations including the Authorized King James Version (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) (TNAB), New world Translation (NWT), Goodspeed, Torrey, New English of 1961, Moffatt of 1972, International English Bible (IEB), International Bible Translators N.T. 1981 (IBT), Philip Harner of 1974, Translator's NT of 1973 (TNT), Scholar's Version of 1993, etc. have all made an effort to make the scriptures easier to read and have tried to remove ambiguity of the original text. For example, if the literal text were to say: "The love of God". The translator may decide to translate the text: "God's love for you", or he might translate it: "Your love for God". The reader can interpret the original text either way. when the translator chooses one of the ways to translate a text and eliminates the ambiguity, you miss the opportunity to view the text in other ways. The reader must (if objectivity is to be maintained) keep in mind that the translators of any Bible version were believers in one of the doctrine or beliefs with regard how God Almighty (YHWH), Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), and the spirit or Holy Ghost relate to each other of which there are five principle beliefs, Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, Arian Theology, Unitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology. Therefore, bias will and does exist in translation depending on the translator’s theology. This is especially true with respect John 1:1 because of its unique and ambiguous grammatical structure it allows for translators to translate it at least nine different ways that all have equal validity from the language structure point of view, in that none of these can either be proven totally correct or incorrect, i.e., a translator’s nightmare. In an unusual case like this the translator can only fall back on related text with similar structure and his own belief system, BIAS.

Now, let’s look at the original Koine Greek writing as shown in the work of Westcott & Hort Interlinear (John 1:1-3):
[[The Bulletin Board can not handle Koine Greek, if you want to see it send me an email, iris89@uymainl.com]]

Now let’s look at the three most common renderings of John 1:1 into modern English with a brief mention of some of the Bibles that follow each:

1. “ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (John 1:1 AV)
This style rendering is found in most of the Bibles translations made by believers in the Trinitarian Theology and include the Authorized King James Version (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) (TNAB), etc.

2. “In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.” (John 1:1 NWT)
This style rendering is found in most of the Bible translations made by believers in the Arian theology
And many translators of no particular theology and include The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin 1883, NWT, Belsham N.T. 1809, Leicester Ambrose, 1879, Robert Young, 1885, (Concise Commentary), Greek Orthodox /Arabic translation, 1983,etc.

3. “In the beginning there was the Message. The Message was with God. The Message was deity.” (John 1:1 International Bible Translators N.T. 1981).
This style rendering is found in most of the Bible translations made by believers in the Unitarian Theology and by some of Arian Theology And many translators of no particular theology and include the International Bible Translators N.T. (IBT), Translator's NT of 1973, Goodspeed of 1939, Moffatt of 1972, Simple English Bible, etc.

Now a short summary of the various beliefs of the varies theological views with respect the nature of God Almighty (YHWH), Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and the spirit or Holy Ghost and how each views the relationships between each:

five principle beliefs, Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, Arian Theology, Unitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology.

ARIAN THEOLOGY
They believe that there is one God, and that God is one. That God is called the Heavenly Father (YHWH). That we have one Lord who is not God, Jesus Christ (Jeshua or YHWH saves), who is the son of God (son of YHWH). And they believe the holy Spirit is the influence of God's power. The Father (YHWH) and Son (Jeshua or YHWH saves), are separate beings and the Father (YHWH) is superior in power, wisdom and authority. Jesus is God's express image and was given all power on heaven and earth.

Uniqueness - They believe that there is but one God (YHWH) who is one person who is the Father.. That His son, Jesus Christ (Jeshua or YHWH saves), was his first creation and through His son created all of creation.

ONENESS THEOLOGY
They believe that the Father (YHWH), the Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and the Holy Spirit are the same God with no distinction in person or being. That only one God simply manifests himself in these three ways at different times.

Uniqueness - They believe that they are unique in that they conform strictly to the objective of having only one God where as others have more than one God.

Sabellianism THEOLOGY
God is three only in relation to the world, in so many "manifestations" or "modes." The unity and identity of God are such that the Son of God, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) did not exist before the incarnation; because the Father (YHWH) and the Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) are thus one, the Father (YHWH) suffered with the Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) in his passion and death.

Uniqueness - They believe that God is one in earthly manifestations, but not heavenly. [Branham's Bible Believers, Inc.][ to Branham's 1189 page book "Conduct, Order, Doctrine of the Church," the "First thing is to straighten out you on your 'trinity' Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. "God is like a three-foot rule... The first twelve inches was God, the Father; the second twelve inches, God, the Son, the same God; the third twelve inches was God, the Holy Ghost, the same God," (pp.182 & 184). Branham clarifies his position in a speech given October 2, 1957 when he exclaims, "See, there cannot be an Eternal son, because a son had to have a beginning. And so Jesus had a beginning, God had no beginning," (Ibid, p.273).]
[[Note, this has much in common with Oneness Theology]]

TRINITARIAN THEOLOGY
They believe that there is one but God made up of three separate and distinct persons of but one indivisible essence. That these three persons existed from eternity, and are co-equal in power and substance. These individuals are known as Father (YHWH), Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and the Holy Spirit. The undivided essence of God belongs equally to each of the three persons. The Church (Catholic, Orthodox, and most Protestants) confesses the Trinity to be a mystery beyond the comprehension of man.

Uniqueness - They see a distinction in the persons of God, but hold that there is but one God. It is a mystery, i.e., they are not able to explain it.

UNITARIAN THEOLOGY
They believe that there is one God, the Father (YHWH), and one Lord, Jesus Christ (Jeshua or YHWH saves). Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) became God's son at his birth on earth but had not exist previously. The holy Spirit is God's power.

Uniqueness - They do not believe that their beliefs are similar to Arian, but believe that Jesus's existence began with his earthly birth.

Note: for more details see: The Encyclopedia Britannica; The Great Debate Regarding The Father, Son & Holy Spirit by Roger Wagner (on line at http://reslight.addr.com/greatdebate.html ); The Two Babylons by Rev. Alexander Hilsop (on line at http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/default.htm ); http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/const1.txt (minutes of the Council of Constantinopile in 381AD); http://mb-soft.com/believe/txn/monarchi.htm ; http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Sabellianism ; http://www.sandiego.edu/~baber/research/sabellianism.html ; http://members.aol.com/davecrnll/corrupt4.html ; http://www.yashanet.com/library/antisem.htm ; http://www.webzonecom.com/ccn/cults/sabel.txt ; etc.

Now that we have considered who believes what, let’s consider the meaning of John 1:1. The believers in the Trinity Theology of course translate it to make it appear that the Almighty God Father (YHWH) and his, Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) are one ant the same, but is this reasonable when considered with other Bible text? No it is not as Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) son ,Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) is clearly shown to be a lesser one than his father, consider, “ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 AV) where the same writer of John 1:1 clearly shows the Father (YHWH) as being greater as he does again at “ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19 AV) where the Apostle John quotes Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) as saying, “The Son can do nothing of himself.” These two verses both in the same book as John 1:1 make it clear that whereas grammatically speaking John 1:1 could be rendered as in the Authorized King James Version it can not be correctly rendered this way due to the contents of the remainder of the Book of John. The writings of Paul even make this clearer, “ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV), “ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV), “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.” (Philippians 2:5-8 AV). All these scriptures show Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) was obedient to his father (YHWH) and subordinate to his father (YHWH). Clearly this shows the error of Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology.

But let’s for argument sake say that the Father and the Son are one God as these three groups claim, we are left with a gap that can not be closed in their theories and the way their biased Bible translators translate John 1:1. Even if we are to accept the way these biased translators translated John 1:1, this verse can in no way be interpreted to justify a “triune” God. Let’s do a little analysis, it is immediately obvious from reading this verse translated with a Trinitarian/Oneness/Sabellianism bias that at most we are speaking of a “duality” and not a “triune” God. Even the most resolute Trinitarian/Oneness/Sabellianism believer will never be able to be able to find any mention in this verse of any “merging” of a Holy Ghost with God and with “the word.” So even if we accept at face value the rendering in the Authorized King James Version, and have faith, even then, we find ourselves commanded/directed to believe in a “duality” and not a “trinity.” In the original ancient (Koine) Greek, manufscript, “the word” is described as “ton theos” (divine/a god) and not as being “ho theos” (the Divine/the God). In my opinion, the writer of this discourse, this verse should be translated something like the following, “In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was divine.” You will note Word was NOT capitalized in this as no indication or grammatical structure in the original would indicates it should be capitalized; of course this is NOT in accordance with any of the common Bibles such as the Authorized King James (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) TNAB, the New World Translation (NWT), The New Testament, An American Translation, Goodspeed’s Translation, Moffatt’s Translation (which uses Logas instead of Word), etc.

Another point to consider, is other verses using “ho theos” in the Bible in the original Koine Greek; such as “ In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” (2 Corinthians 4:4 AV) We find the same word (“ho theos”) being used in John 1:1 to describe God Almighty (YHWH) is now used to describe the Devil, then why should it be changed from simply translating it as “the god” when referring to the Devil while “divine” is translated as “God” when referring to “the Word”? Also, as previously dealt with, why is Word capitalized? The term god can be applied to anyone with an elevated position as shown by “ I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.” (Psalms 82:6 AV). In fact, The Catholic New World Dictionary to the New American Bible, 1970 candidly admits, "In the New Testament, the Greek Theos with the article (The God) means the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (see Rom. 1:7; 1 Cor. 1:3; 2 Cor. 1:2; etc.). Thus God is almost the name of the first person of the blessed Trinity. Without the article, God designates the divinity, and so is applicable to the pre-existing Word (Jn. 1:3). The term God is applied to Jesus in only a few texts, and even their interpretation is under dispute (Jn. 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Tit. 2:13; 2 Pet. 1:1)." This clearly proves the point that the translators with a Trinitarian Theology bias have little or no support for their way of translating John 1:1.

Yet another point to consider is the meaning of Father and of Son, “The Doctrine of The Trinity defies the universally accepted and historically always held meaning of the words for father and son. Not only does it defy the meaning of these words, it destroys their meaning! This fact is important to realize for God gave us language. It was not invented by man as the evolutionist tries to say. Thus, we are not destroying man made terms, but God-given terms! These terms, as given to us by God, require that the father exists before the son, and for the son to be brought into existence by the father. This universally accepted and recognized definition is what these terms have meant from the beginning of this creation. Therefore, who has given anyone the authority to change these God-given terms now? In fact, The Lord Jesus Christ verifies the meaning of these terms when he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." John 13:16 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." John 14:28. Here, he establishes that God is his lord, that he was sent by his lord, that God is his Father, and that his Father is greater than he himself. How could any of these declarations be true if the Doctrine of The Trinity is true? It is clearly impossible for these declarations of The Lord Jesus Christ to be true and the Doctrine of The Trinity to be True! It is easy to see that these words of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Doctrine of the Trinity are mutually exclusive and opposing views!
Now notice that verses fifteen and sixteen of John chapter thirteen require that this special son has to learn the difference between good and evil. If he was God, then how could such a statement apply? Isn't God omniscient? Isn't this passage teaching us that this special son would have to go through a learning process like every other normal natural human being? Isn't it telling us that he at one time did not know the difference between good and evil? Isn't it teaching us that he would have to learn to refuse the evil and choose the good? The answer to these questions is obviously yes! It doesn't take someone with a doctorate degree to answer them. In fact, the only too obvious answer to all of these questions destroys The Trinitarian concept of this special son. Furthermore, this conclusion from this passage is verified by what is said about The Lord Jesus Christ in The New Testament. Consider the following passages:
And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him. Luke 2:40.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. Luke 2:52.
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matt. 24:36.
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Mark 13:32.
For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. John 5:20.
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. Acts 1:7
The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John. Rev. 1:1.
At this point, let us briefly look at the implications of the above listed passages. We will take them in the order in which we quoted them.” ( an excerpt from a letter of Bro. Scaramastro).
Now as can be readily seen from the foregoing, John 1:1 can definitely be translated at least nine different ways that all have equal validity from the language structure point of view, in that none of these can either be proven totally correct or incorrect; however, by reasoning and looking at other text using the same word, we can see even if we accept translations having a “triune” God bias there is only a “duality” shown, but the same word used elsewhere indicates this is not the way it should be translated. Since this discourse is meant for ordinary readers and not translators no in-depth details of translation are dealt with; however, for those wanting more detail with respect translation see:
See Appendix on John 1:1:
http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com/germans.htm [probably the best in-depth translation detail anywhere on the subject]; http://www.riverpower.org/John/C01v01-3.htm ; http://users.eggconnect.net/noddy3/John%2011.htm ; http://www.seekgod.org/bible/chapters/1john1.html ; http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch1.2.2.6.html ; http://web.fares.net/w/.ee7f254 ; http://bibles.datasegment.com/weymouth/1%20John/1 ; http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/JohnChapterOneCorrected.html ; http://reslight.addr.com/john1.html [excellent background source]; http://www.vocationsvancouver.com/scripture_1_john_1_1_4.htm; http://www.christianeducational.org/faq/v1i3.pdf;
http://www.christianeducational.org/bookpromo.htm [source for interesting book with more information on Trinity] ; http://reslight.addr.com/john20-28.html (source for books and facts on Trinity); http://www.tellway-publishing.com ("Jesus-God or the Son of God?" by Brian Holt – one of the best)

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 828A]

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. Galatians 5:22 – 23, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

These fruits of the spirit if Christ is to dwell in your heart with you per Ephesians 1:10, [AV] “That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,” Yes, as Ephesians 5:8 – 10 shows, [AV] “For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: 9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) 10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.” And James 3:17, says with respect the wisdom from above, [AV] “But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the, Campomanesia xanthocarpa O, Characterization of Odor-Active Compounds in Gabiroba Fruits (Campomanesia xanthocarpa O. Berg)

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Deborah Dos Santos Garruti
Juliano Smanioto Barin
Alexandre José Cichoski
Roger Wagner
First published: 29 October 2015
https://doi.org/10.1111/jfq.12177
Abstract
Headspace solid-phase microextraction was used for isolation of the volatile compounds from gabiroba fruit (Campomanesia xanthocarpa O. Berg) and further quantification by gas chromatography–flame ionization detector and identification by gas chromatography/mass spectrometry and gas chromatography–olfactometry (GC-O). The odor-active compounds were evaluated using the Osme technique. Seventy-nine compounds were identified, from which 39 presented odor activity detected by the judges in GC-O analysis. The major compounds were (E)-2-hexenal, ethanol, ethyl hexanoate, hexanal, ethyl butanoate, hexanoic acid, 1-hexanol, (E)-2-hexen-1-ol, linalool, 1-butanol, methyl acetate and ?-terpineol, but the substances 4-hydroxy-2,5-dimethyl-2(3H)-furanone, 1-penten-3-ol, an unidentified compound, hexanal, (E,E)-2,4-hexadienal, (Z)-3-hexen-1-ol, ethyl hexanoate, ?-eudesmol, linalool and ?-eudesmol were related to the aroma of this fruit. The green and sweet notes were perceived in high frequency of description and intensity, and they were considered important for the characteristic gabiroba aroma.
Practical Applications
Gabiroba is a native fruit from South America with an intense and pleasant flavor, but there is a few information regarding to its chemical profile of volatile compounds. In this work, the compounds that better represent the gabiroba aroma (odor-active substances) were determined by olfactometric analysis. This information was crucial for sensory characterization of fruit and could be used as a tool for evaluation of processing and postharvest quality.
Introduction
Brazil has an abundance of native fruits, which are rich in aromas and flavors, presenting great potential to be economically explored (Franco and Janzantti 2005). The interest of consumers in these fruits is increasing, mainly because of their nutritional value and pleasant sensory characteristics (Oliveira et al. 2006). Among several native plants of Brazilian flora, the Myrtaceae could be highlighted as one of the most studied families (Nakamura et al. 2010) presenting a pleasant and intense aroma (Pino et al. 2001; Guedes et al. 2004; Osorio et al. 2006; Quijano and Pino 2007). Nowadays, some fruits of this family are commercialized, such as guava (Psidium guajava L.), pitanga (Eugenia uniflora L.) and jabuticaba (Myrciaria jabuticaba), but several Myrtaceae fruits have still been poorly explored, such as gabiroba (Campomanesia xanthocarpa O. Berg).
The gabiroba tree grows naturally in the cerrado biome and it is found around all South, Midwest and Southeast Brazil as well as in other South American countries such as Uruguay, Paraguay and Argentina. The harvest period ranges from November to December (Biavatti et al. 2004), but gabiroba fruits are highly perishable and could be stored for only 6 days because of the lack of postharvest treatments (Campos et al. 2012). Gabiroba is a small and round fruit, with color ranging from green to orange, and it presents an intense aroma, considered pleasant and citric (Santos et al. 2013). It is also a rich source of vitamins (mainly vitamin C), minerals (Vallilo et al. 2008), phenolic compounds and antioxidants (mainly carotenoids) (Pereira et al. 2012). The fruit is consumed generally in natura, but it can be also useful for making juice (Santos 2011), jam (Santos et al. 2013) and wine (Duarte et al. 2010). However, the transformation of fruits into industrialized products could be improved by the identification of volatile compounds that carry the unique character of their natural flavor being an important parameter for choosing the best processing method.
Several volatile compounds, such as esters, aldehydes, alcohols, terpenes and their derivatives (Bicas et al. 2011) are involved in the flavor of fruits, which is the sensory characteristic that plays a key role in the acceptability of consumers (Galvão et al. 2011). Among the several volatile compounds present in food, only few of them actually contribute to the overall perceived odor, making the characterization of the odoriferous components a relevant step in flavor research (Zellner et al. 2008). For this purpose, gas chromatography–olfactometry (GC-O) is an effective tool used for the measurement of odor quality and the identification of odor-active compounds (Zellner et al. 2008), which could be classified into three main groups: dilution, detection frequency and time–intensity methods. Osme (from the Greek word meaning smell) is a time–intensity approach considered as satisfactory for GC-O analysis using judges for direct estimation of the odor intensity and time duration of each compound, and reports the odor description perceived (Miranda-Lopez et al. 1992; Garruti et al. 2003). Contrarily to combined hedonic aroma response measurement analysis (CHARM) (Acree et al. 1984) and aroma extraction dilution analysis (AEDA) (Schieberle and Grosch 1987), Osme is not based on odor detection thresholds but on Stevens’ power law, which is a psychophysical law that explains the relationship between the perceived intensity and the odorant concentration (Guen et al. 2008; Zellner et al. 2008).
The objectives of this study were to characterize the volatile compounds of the gabiroba pulp headspace using the headspace solid-phase microextraction (HS-SPME) sampling technique and to determine the key-odor compounds by means of the Osme technique. The identification of volatile compounds from gabiroba fruit headspace was performed and the key volatile compounds that carry the unique character of its natural flavor were determined. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jfq.12177 ON 3/17/2018]

Seed can be obtained from Tradewind, and here is their catalog description, 3091 - Campomanesia lineatifolia - Perfume Guava
A beautiful guava relative with strongly aromatic, flattened fruits that have an edible, creamy pulp that is mildly sweet and acidic. Small to medium sized tree up to 20-30 feet. Attractive foliage, flowers and fruits make this a desirable tree. Frost hardy to 28-32F, probably slightly less hardy than the tropical guava.


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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] A DISCOURSE ON UNDERSTANDING JOHN 1:1. - APPENDIX


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 829A]

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:34 – 35, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Clearly love is the defining attribute for all of Jesus’ (Yeshua’s) followers, and this reality is clearly shown at John 15:9 – 10, [AV] “As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.” In fact, Jesus (Yeshua) gave this as a specific commandment at John 15:12, [AV] “This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.” In addition, he said at Romans 13:8, [AV] “Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.”

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[2] A DISCOURSE ON UNDERSTANDING JOHN 1:1. - APPENDIX

This discourse will not go down into an in depth explanation of the translating challenges provided by the rather unusual construction of the Apostle John's original writing in Koine (ancient) Greek. Sufficient to say the ancient Greek language had a certain amount of ambiguity as does modern English. Most English translations including the Authorized King James Version (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) (TNAB), New world Translation (NWT), Goodspeed, Torrey, New English of 1961, Moffatt of 1972, International English Bible (IEB), International Bible Translators N.T. 1981 (IBT), Philip Harner of 1974, Translator's NT of 1973 (TNT), Scholar's Version of 1993, etc. have all made an effort to make the scriptures easier to read and have tried to remove ambiguity of the original text. For example, if the literal text were to say: "The love of God". The translator may decide to translate the text: "God's love for you", or he might translate it: "Your love for God". The reader can interpret the original text either way. when the translator chooses one of the ways to translate a text and eliminates the ambiguity, you miss the opportunity to view the text in other ways. The reader must (if objectivity is to be maintained) keep in mind that the translators of any Bible version were believers in one of the doctrine or beliefs with regard how God Almighty (YHWH), Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves), and the spirit or Holy Ghost relate to each other of which there are five principle beliefs, Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, Arian Theology, Unitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology. Therefore, bias will and does exist in translation depending on the translator's theology. This is especially true with respect John 1:1 because of its unique and ambiguous grammatical structure it allows for translators to translate it at least nine different ways that all have equal validity from the language structure point of view, in that none of these can either A discourse on understanding John 1:1.
This discourse will not go down into an in depth explanation of the translating challenges provided by the rather unusual construction of the Apostle John's original writing in Koine (ancient) Greek. Sufficient to say the ancient Greek language had a certain amount of ambiguity as does modern English. Most English translations including the Authorized King James Version (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) (TNAB), New world Translation (NWT), Goodspeed, Torrey, New English of 1961, Moffatt of 1972, International English Bible (IEB), International Bible Translators N.T. 1981 (IBT), Philip Harner of 1974, Translator's NT of 1973 (TNT), Scholar's Version of 1993, etc. have all made an effort to make the scriptures easier to read and have tried to remove ambiguity of the original text. For example, if the literal text were to say: "The love of God". The translator may decide to translate the text: "God's love for you", or he might translate it: "Your love for God". The reader can interpret the original text either way. when the translator chooses one of the ways to translate a text and eliminates the ambiguity, you miss the opportunity to view the text in other ways. The reader must (if objectivity is to be maintained) keep in mind that the translators of any Bible version were believers in one of the doctrine or beliefs with regard how God Almighty (YHWH), Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves), and the spirit or Holy Ghost relate to each other of which there are five principle beliefs, Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, Arian Theology, Unitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology. Therefore, bias will and does exist in translation depending on the translator's theology. This is especially true with respect John 1:1 because of its unique and ambiguous grammatical structure it allows for translators to translate it at least nine different ways that all have equal validity from the language structure point of view, in that none of these can either be proven totally correct or incorrect, i.e., a translator's nightmare. In an unusual case like this the translator can only fall back on related text with similar structure and his own belief system, BIAS.

Now, let's look at the original Koine Greek writing as shown in the work of Westcott & Hort Interlinear (John 1:1-3):
[[The Bulletin Board can not handle Koine Greek, if you want to see it send me an email, iris89@uymainl.com]]

Now let's look at the three most common renderings of John 1:1 into modern English with a brief mention of some of the Bibles that follow each:

1. " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1 AV)
This style rendering is found in most of the Bibles translations made by believers in the Trinitarian Theology and include the Authorized King James Version (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) (TNAB), etc.

2. "In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god." (John 1:1 NWT)
This style rendering is found in most of the Bible translations made by believers in the Arian theology
And many translators of no particular theology and include The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin 1883, NWT, Belsham N.T. 1809, Leicester Ambrose, 1879, Robert Young, 1885, (Concise Commentary), Greek Orthodox /Arabic translation, 1983,etc.

3. "In the beginning there was the Message. The Message was with God. The Message was deity." (John 1:1 International Bible Translators N.T. 1981).
This style rendering is found in most of the Bible translations made by believers in the Unitarian Theology and by some of Arian Theology And many translators of no particular theology and include the International Bible Translators N.T. (IBT), Translator's NT of 1973, Goodspeed of 1939, Moffatt of 1972, Simple English Bible, etc.

Now a short summary of the various beliefs of the varies theological views with respect the nature of God Almighty (YHWH), Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) and the spirit or Holy Ghost and how each views the relationships between each:

five principle beliefs, Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, Arian Theology, Unitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology.

ARIAN THEOLOGY
They believe that there is one God, and that God is one. That God is called the Heavenly Father (YHWH). That we have one Lord who is not God, Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves), who is the son of God (son of YHWH). And they believe the holy Spirit is the influence of God's power. The Father (YHWH) and Son (Yeshua or YHWH saves), are separate beings and the Father (YHWH) is superior in power, wisdom and authority. Jesus is God's express image and was given all power on heaven and earth.

Uniqueness - They believe that there is but one God (YHWH) who is one person who is the Father.. That His son, Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves), was his first creation and through His son created all of creation.

ONENESS THEOLOGY
They believe that the Father (YHWH), the Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) and the Holy Spirit are the same God with no distinction in person or being. That only one God simply manifests himself in these three ways at different times.

Uniqueness - They believe that they are unique in that they conform strictly to the objective of having only one God where as others have more than one God.

SABELLIANISM THEOLOGY
God is three only in relation to the world, in so many "manifestations" or "modes." The unity and identity of God are such that the Son of God, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) did not exist before the incarnation; because the Father (YHWH) and the Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) are thus one, the Father (YHWH) suffered with the Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) in his passion and death.

Uniqueness - They believe that God is one in earthly manifestations, but not heavenly. [Branham's Bible Believers, Inc.][ to Branham's 1189 page book "Conduct, Order, Doctrine of the Church," the "First thing is to straighten out you on your 'trinity' Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. "God is like a three-foot rule... The first twelve inches was God, the Father; the second twelve inches, God, the Son, the same God; the third twelve inches was God, the Holy Ghost, the same God," (pp.182 & 184). Branham clarifies his position in a speech given October 2, 1957 when he exclaims, "See, there cannot be an Eternal son, because a son had to have a beginning. And so Jesus had a beginning, God had no beginning," (Ibid, p.273).]
[[Note, this has much in common with Oneness Theology]]

TRINITARIAN THEOLOGY
They believe that there is one but God made up of three separate and distinct persons of but one indivisible essence. That these three persons existed from eternity, and are co-equal in power and substance. These individuals are known as Father (YHWH), Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) and the Holy Spirit. The undivided essence of God belongs equally to each of the three persons. The Church (Catholic, Orthodox, and most Protestants) confesses the Trinity to be a mystery beyond the comprehension of man.

Uniqueness - They see a distinction in the persons of God, but hold that there is but one God. It is a mystery, i.e., they are not able to explain it.

UNITARIAN THEOLOGY
They believe that there is one God, the Father (YHWH), and one Lord, Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves). Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) became God's son at his birth on earth but had not exist previously. The holy Spirit is God's power.

Uniqueness - They do not believe that their beliefs are similar to Arian, but believe that Jesus's existence began with his earthly birth.

Note: for more details see: The Encyclopedia Britannica; The Great Debate Regarding The Father, Son & Holy Spirit by Roger Wagner (on line at http://reslight.addr.com/greatdebate.html ); The Two Babylons by Rev. Alexander Hilsop (on line at http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/default.htm ); http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/const1.txt (minutes of the Council of Constantinopile in 381AD); http://mb-soft.com/believe/txn/monarchi.htm ; http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Sabellianism ; http://www.sandiego.edu/~baber/research/sabellianism.html ; http://members.aol.com/davecrnll/corrupt4.html ; http://www.yashanet.com/library/antisem.htm ; http://www.webzonecom.com/ccn/cults/sabel.txt ; etc.

Now that we have considered who believes what, let's consider the meaning of John 1:1. The believers in the Trinity Theology of course translate it to make it appear that the Almighty God Father (YHWH) and his, Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) are one and the same, but is this reasonable when considered with other Bible text? No it is not as Almighty God's (YHWH's) son ,Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is clearly shown to be a lesser one than his father, consider, " Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (John 14:28 AV) where the same writer of John 1:1 clearly shows the Father (YHWH) as being greater as he does again at " Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19 AV) where the Apostle John quotes Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) as saying, "The Son can do nothing of himself." These two verses both in the same book as John 1:1 make it clear that whereas grammatically speaking John 1:1 could be rendered as in the Authorized King James Version it can not be correctly rendered this way due to the contents of the remainder of the Book of John. The writings of Paul even make this clearer, " And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV), " But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV), "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." (Philippians 2:5-8 AV). All these scriptures show Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) was obedient to his father (YHWH) and subordinate to his father (YHWH). Clearly this shows the error of Oneness Theology, Trinitarian Theology, and Sabellianism Theology.

But let's for argument sake say that the Father and the Son are one God as these three groups claim, we are left with a gap that can not be closed in their theories and the way their biased Bible translators translate John 1:1. Even if we are to accept the way these biased translators translated John 1:1, this verse can in no way be interpreted to justify a "triune" God. Let's do a little analysis, it is immediately obvious from reading this verse translated with a Trinitarian/Oneness/Sabellianism bias that at most we are speaking of a "duality" and not a "triune" God. Even the most resolute Trinitarian/Oneness/Sabellianism believer will never be able to be able to find any mention in this verse of any "merging" of a Holy Ghost with God and with "the word." So even if we accept at face value the rendering in the Authorized King James Version, and have faith, even then, we find ourselves commanded/directed to believe in a "duality" and not a "trinity." In the original ancient (Koine) Greek, manufscript, "the word" is described as "ton theos" (divine/a god) and not as being "ho theos" (the Divine/the God). In my opinion, the writer of this discourse, this verse should be translated something like the following, "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was divine." You will note Word was NOT capitalized in this as no indication or grammatical structure in the original would indicates it should be capitalized; of course this is NOT in accordance with any of the common Bibles such as the Authorized King James (AV), The New American Bible (Catholic) TNAB, the New World Translation (NWT), The New Testament, An American Translation, Goodspeed's Translation, Moffatt's Translation (which uses Logas instead of Word), etc.

Another point to consider, is other verses using "ho theos" in the Bible in the original Koine Greek; such as " In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (2 Corinthians 4:4 AV) We find the same word ("ho theos") being used in John 1:1 to describe God Almighty (YHWH) is now used to describe the Devil, then why should it be changed from simply translating it as "the god" when referring to the Devil while "divine" is translated as "God" when referring to "the Word"? Also, as previously dealt with, why is Word capitalized? The term god can be applied to anyone with an elevated position as shown by " I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." (Psalms 82:6 AV). In fact, The Catholic New World Dictionary to the New American Bible, 1970 candidly admits, "In the New Testament, the Greek Theos with the article (The God) means the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (see Rom. 1:7; 1 Cor. 1:3; 2 Cor. 1:2; etc.). Thus God is almost the name of the first person of the blessed Trinity. Without the article, God designates the divinity, and so is applicable to the pre-existing Word (Jn. 1:3). The term God is applied to Jesus in only a few texts, and even their interpretation is under dispute (Jn. 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Tit. 2:13; 2 Pet. 1:1)." This clearly proves the point that the translators with a Trinitarian Theology bias have little or no support for their way of translating John 1:1.

Yet another point to consider is the meaning of Father and of Son, "The Doctrine of The Trinity defies the universally accepted and historically always held meaning of the words for father and son. Not only does it defy the meaning of these words, it destroys their meaning! This fact is important to realize for God gave us language. It was not invented by man as the evolutionist tries to say. Thus, we are not destroying man made terms, but God-given terms! These terms, as given to us by God, require that the father exists before the son, and for the son to be brought into existence by the father. This universally accepted and recognized definition is what these terms have meant from the beginning of this creation. Therefore, who has given anyone the authority to change these God-given terms now? In fact, The Lord Jesus Christ verifies the meaning of these terms when he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." John 13:16 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." John 14:28. Here, he establishes that God is his lord, that he was sent by his lord, that God is his Father, and that his Father is greater than he himself. How could any of these declarations be true if the Doctrine of The Trinity is true? It is clearly impossible for these declarations of The Lord Jesus Christ to be true and the Doctrine of The Trinity to be True! It is easy to see that these words of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Doctrine of the Trinity are mutually exclusive and opposing views!

Now notice that " And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him." (Luke 2:40 AV) and " And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man." (Luke 2:52 AV) require that this special son has to learn the difference between good and evil. If he was God, then how could such a statement apply? Isn't God omniscient? Isn't this passage teaching us that this special son would have to go through a learning process like every other normal natural human being? Isn't it telling us that he at one time did not know the difference between good and evil? Isn't it teaching us that he would have to learn to refuse the evil and choose the good? The answer to these questions is obviously yes! It doesn't take someone with a doctorate degree to answer them. In fact, the only too obvious answer to all of these questions destroys The Trinitarian concept of this special son. Furthermore, this conclusion from this passage is verified by what is said about The Lord Jesus Christ in The New Testament. Consider the following passages:
And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him. Luke 2:40.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. Luke 2:52.
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matt. 24:36.
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Mark 13:32.
For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. John 5:20.
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. Acts 1:7
The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John. Rev. 1:1.
At this point, let us briefly look at the implications of the above listed passages. We will take them in the order in which we quoted them." ( an excerpt from a letter of Bro. Scaramastro).
Now as can be readily seen from the foregoing, John 1:1 can definitely be translated at least nine different ways that all have equal validity from the language structure point of view, in that none of these can either be proven totally correct or incorrect; however, by reasoning and looking at other text using the same word, we can see even if we accept translations having a "triune" God bias there is only a "duality" shown, but the same word used elsewhere indicates this is not the way it should be translated. Since this discourse is meant for ordinary readers and not translators no in-depth details of translation are dealt with; however, for those wanting more detail with respect translation see:
See Appendix on John 1:1:
http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com/germans.htm [probably the best in-depth translation detail anywhere on the subject]; http://www.riverpower.org/John/C01v01-3.htm ; http://users.eggconnect.net/noddy3/John%2011.htm ; http://www.seekgod.org/bible/chapters/1john1.html ; http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch1.2.2.6.html ; http://web.fares.net/w/.ee7f254 ; http://bibles.datasegment.com/weymouth/1%20John/1 ; http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/JohnChapterOneCorrected.html ; http://reslight.addr.com/john1.html [excellent background source]; http://www.vocationsvancouver.com/scripture_1_john_1_1_4.htm; http://www.christianeducational.org/faq/v1i3.pdf;
http://www.christianeducational.org/bookpromo.htm [source for interesting book with more information on Trinity] ; http://reslight.addr.com/john20-28.html (source for books and facts on Trinity); http://www.tellway-publishing.com ("Jesus-God or the Son of God?" by Brian Holt - one of the best)

Special Translation Appendix on John 1:1:

This is a short introduction on the translation of the word 'god' in its various forms, for a much more detailed explanation go to http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com/germans.htm.

Item 1) Let's consider what the Greek Scholar Jason BeDuhn from the Northern Arizona University has to say: "The Greek phrase is theos en ho logos, which translated word for word is "a god was the word." Greek has only a definite article, like our the, it does not have an indefeinite article, like our a or an. If a noun is definite, it has the definite article ho. If a noun is indefinite, no article is used. In the phrase from John 1:1, ho logos is "the word." If it was written simply logos, without the definite article ho, we would have to translate it as "a word". So we are not really "inserting" an indefinite article when we translate Greek nouns without the definite article into English, we are simply obeying rules of English grammar that tell us that we cannot say "Snoopy is dog," but must say "Snoopy is a dog."

Now in English we simply say "God"; we do not say "The God." But in Greek, when you mean to refer to the one supreme God, instead of one of the many other beings that were called "gods," you would have to say "The God": ho theos. Even a monotheistic Christian, who beleives there is only one God and no others, would be forced to say in Greek "The God," as John and Paul and the other writers of the New Testament normally do. If you leave off the article in a phrase like John 1:1, then you are saying "a god." (There are some exceptions to this rule: Greek has what are called noun cases, which means the nouns change form depending on how they are used in a sentence. So, if you want to say "of God," which is theou, you don't need the article. But in the nominative case, which is the one in John 1:1, you have to have the article.) So what does John mean by saying "the word was a god"? He is classifying Jesus in a specific category of beings. There are plants and animals and humans and gods, and so on. By calling the Word "a god," John wants to tell his readers that the Word(which becomes Jesus when it takes flesh) belongs to the divine class of things. Notice the word order: "a god was the word." We can't say it like this in English, but you can in Greek. The subject can be after the verb and the object before the verb, the opposite of how we do it in English (subject-verb-object). Research has shown that when ancient Greek writers put a object-noun first in a sentence like John 1:1 (a be-verb sentence: x is y), without the definite article, they are telling us that the subject belongs to the class represented by the object-noun: :"The car is a Volkswagen." In English we would accomplish the same thing by using what we call predicate adjectives. "John is a smart person" = "John is smart." So we would tend to say "The word was divine," rather than "The word was a god." That is how I would translate this phrase. "The word was a god" is more literal, and an improvement over "The word was God," but it raises more problems, since to a modern reader it implies polytheism. No one in John's day would have understood the phrase to mean "The word was God" - the language does not convey that sense, and conceptually it is difficult to grasp such an idea, especially since that author has just said that the word was with God. Someone is not with himself, he is with some other. John clearly differentiates between God from the Word. The latter becomes flesh and is seen; the former cannot be seen. What is the Word? John says it was the agent through whom God made the world. He starts his gospel "In the beginning..." to remind us of Genesis 1. How does God create in Genesis? He speaks words that make things come into existence. So the Word is God's creative power and plan and activity. It is not God himself, but it is not really totally separate from God either. It occupies a kind of ambiguous status. That is why a monotheist like John can get away with calling it "a god" or "divine" without becoming a polytheist. This divine thing does not act on its own, however, does take on a kind of distinct identity, and in becoming flesh brings God's will and plan right down face to face with humans.

Item 2) The fact is that THEOS (=God) is a count noun, not a mass noun or an adjective. As a count noun it MUST BE countable, i.e. either definite or indefinite (i.e. either "a god" or "the God"). The trinitarian argument hinges on stripping THEOS of its count-ability, so that it is purely qualitative. However, if a noun is PURELY qualitative, it is not a count noun. An adjective or a mass noun may fit their requirement for emphasizing qualitativness only, but a count noun MUST BE countable, for that is what *count* means when describing a count noun. If he accepts this rather elementary rule of English grammar, you can demonstrate that, as a count noun, THEOS may be translated either "the Word was God" (="the Word was The God", which is Sabellianism), or "the Word was a god". Since orthodox trinitarians reject "the Word was The God" (=Sabellianism), they are left with "the Word was a god" -- that is, if they remain true to English syntax (and English syntax is what ENGLISH translations are supposed to follow!). If one argues the point, let them provide an example of a non-countable *count noun* that is not used in a contrary-to-fact situation, such as a metaphor. I have yet to find anyone, trinitarian or otherwise, who is able to meet this challenge. Rolf Furuli discusses this in his book, THE ROLE OF THEOLOGY AND BIAS IN BIBLE TRANSLATION, as does Greg Stafford, in his, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DEFENDED: AN ANSWER TO SCHOLARS AND CRITICS. There are also some very good posts by Wes Williams on greektheology that discuss this issue. I suppose if you search the greektheology archives using the word "count" or the name "Wes" you will find much helpful information. [source Kats]

Item 3) How some Bible translators who did not have bias translated:

1928: "and the Word was a divine being." La Bible du Centenaire, L'Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel.
1935: "and the Word was divine." The Bible-An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed.
1946: "and of a divine kind was the Word." Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme. 1958: "and the Word was a God." The New Testament, by James L. Tomanek.
1975: "and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word." Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz.
1978: "and godlike kind was the Logos." Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider.
1979: "and a god was the Logos." Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Jurgen Becker Harwood,
1768, "and was himself a divine person" Thompson,
1829, "the Logos was a god Torrey,
1961, "what God was,the Word was" Moffatt,
1972, "the Logos was divine Translator's NT,
1973, "The Word was with God and shared his nature Barclay,
1976, "the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God" Schonfield,
1985, "the Word was divine Revised English,
1989, "what God was, the Word was Scholar's Version,
1993, "The Divine word and wisdom was there with God, and it was what God was Madsen,
1994, "the Word was <EM>a divine Being" Becker,
1979, "ein Gott war das Logos" [a God/god was the Logos/logos] Stage,
1907, "Das Wort war selbst gttlichen Wesens" [The Word/word was itself a divine Being/being]. Bhmer,
1910, "Es war fest mit Gott verbunden, ja selbst gttlichen Wesens" [It was strongly linked to God, yes itself divine Being/being] Thimme,
1919, "Gott von Art war das Wort" [God of Kind/kind was the Word/word] Baumgarten et al,
1920, "Gott (von Art) war der Logos" [God (of Kind/kind) was the Logos/logos] Holzmann,
1926, "ein Gott war der Gedanke" [a God/god was the Thought/thought] Rittenlmeyer, 1938, "selbst ein Gott war das Wort" [itself a God/god was the Word/word] Lyder Brun (Norw. professor of NT theology),
1945, "Ordet var av guddomsart" [the Word was of divine kind] Pffflin,
1949, "war von gttlicher Wucht [was of divine Kind/kind] Albrecht,
1957, "gttlichen Wesen hatte das Wort" [godlike Being/being had the Word/word] Smit, 1960, "verdensordet var et guddommelig vesen" [the word of the world was a divine being] Menge,
1961, "Gott (= gttlichen Wesens) war das Wort"[God(=godlike Being/being) was the Word/word) Haenchen,
1980, "Gott (von Art) war der Logos" [God (of Kind/kind) was the Logos/logos] Die Bibel in heutigem Deutsch,
1982, "r war bei Gott und in allem Gott gleich"[He was with God and in all like God] Haenchen (tr. By R. Funk),
1984, "divine (of the category divinity)was the Logos" Schultz,
1987, "ein Gott (oder: Gott von Art) war das Wort" [a God/god (or: God/god of Kind/kind) was the Word/word]

Item 4) Amplification on How Some Bible Translators Translated John 1:1 And Why:

"And the word was a god" - The New Testament in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Achbishop Newcome's New Translation: With a Corrected Text.

"and a god was the Word" - The Emphatic Diaglott, by Benjamin Wilson.

"and the Word was divine" - The Bible: An American Translation, by J.M.P. Smith and E.J. Goodspeed.

"the Logos was divine" - The New Testament: A New Translation, by James Moffat.

"what God was, the Word was" - The New English Bible.

"He was the same as God" - Today's English Version.

"And the Word was a god" - New World Translation

We notice that these Bibles do not translate John 1:1 with the simple expression "The Word was God" like most Bibles do. Why is that? The footnote to John 1:1 in The New American Bible states the following reason:
"Was God: lack of a definite article with "God" in Greek signifies predication rather than identification."
What the footnote is saying is that first time "God" appears in the verse, "was with God", there is a definite article before God so it literally reads "was with THE God". The second time God appears, "was God," there is no definite article (the). This signifies "God" may be used as a predicate and not as an identification.
Regarding this fact, the Anchor Bible states:

"To preserve in English the different nuance of theos [god] with and without the article, some (Moffat) would translate 'The Word was divine.'"

Notice a literal translation of John 1:1,2:

"In the beginning was the world and the word was toward the god and god was the word. This (one) was in beginning toward the god."

In these two verses we see six nouns, three referring to the Greek word logos (word, which most recognize to be Jesus) and three referring to the Greek word theos (god). We notic each reference to logos (word) is preceded by the definite article "the", while two of the three times the word theos (god) occurs, it too is preceded by the definite article "the". For some reason, John does not provide the definite article with theos when it is associated with "The Word". We thus see two definite individuals mentioned in this verse. "The Word", Jesus Christ, and "The God", who is Almighty God Jehovah. John does not say "The Word" is "The God". (In fact, most Trinitarian scholars would argue that if John had said the word was "ho theos" (The God), it would amount to sabellianism (the belief that Jesus is both the Father and the Son). As such, it is commonly agreed upon that John was not identifying Jesus as God but rather, was describing him as deity.) But if John did not say "The Word" is "The God", then what did he mean by saying, "the word was god"?
In Greek, it is possible for a noun to act as an adjective when it is not accompanied by the definite article. Consider a Biblical example of this in John 6:70. "Jesus replied, "Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!" (NIV)

Here the noun (devil) is not proceeded by the efinite article (the). To reflect this most Bibles place the indefinite article (a) in front of it. Thus, Jesus was not identifying Judas as "THE Devil", he was saying Judas had the qualities of the devil. He was acting like the devil so he was A devil though not THE devil. This example helps us to see how the lack of the definite article can cause a noun to act as a predication rather than an identification.

Regarding this point, noted Bible scholar William Barclay writes:

"When in Greek two nouns are joined by the verb to be and when both have the definite article, then the one is fully identified with the other; but when one of them is without the article, it become more an adjective than a noun, and describes rather the class of the sphere to which the other belongs...

"John has no definte article before theos, God. The Logos, therefore, is not identified as God or with God; the word theos has become adjectival and describes the sphere to which the logos belongs...

"This passage then [John 1:1] does not identify the Logos and God; it does not say that Jesus was God, nor doesit call him God; but it does say that in his nature and being he belongs to the same class as God."

Mr. Barclay's observations are duly noted in the example we considered with Judas Iscariot being "a devil".

Item 4) The words at Genesis 1:26 have often been used as proof of plurality
in the Godhead:
"Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" RSV

But are there other examples of the same type of idiom in the OT? The following examples are from the RSV:

Ezr 4:17 The king sent an answer: "To Rehum the commander and Shim'shai the scribe and the rest of their associates who live in Sama'ria and in the rest of the province Beyond the River, greeting. And now Ezr 4:18 the letter which you sent to us has been plainly read before me.

[[note: the use of the Apocrypha as a Historic source only and not as an approved part of the Bible]]
1Maccabees 10:18 "King Alexander to his brother Jonathan, greeting.
1Ma 10:19 We have heard about you, that you are a mighty warrior and worthy to be our friend.
1Ma 10:20 And so we have appointed you today to be the high priest of your nation; you are to be called the king's friend" (and he sent him a purple robe and a golden crown) "and you are to take our side and keep friendship with us."
1Ma 10:21 So Jonathan put on the holy garments in the seventh month of the one hundred and sixtieth year, at the feast of tabernacles, and he recruited troops and equipped them with arms in abundance.
1Ma 10:22 When Demetrius heard of these things he was grieved and said,
1Ma 10:23 "What is this that we have done? Alexander has gotten ahead of us in forming a friendship with the Jews to strengthen himself.
1Ma 10:24 I also will write them words of encouragement and promise them honor and gifts, that I may have their help."
1Ma 10:25 So he sent a message to them in the following words: "King Demetrius to the nation of the Jews, greeting.
1Ma 10:26 Since you have kept your agreement with us and have continued your friendship with us, and have not sided with our enemies, we have heard of it and rejoiced.
1Ma 10:27 And now continue still to keep faith with us, and we will repay you with good for what you do for us.
1Ma 10:28 We will grant you many immunities and give you gifts.

1Ma 11:30 "King Demetrius to Jonathan his brother and to the nation of the Jews, greeting.

1Ma 11:31 This copy of the letter which we wrote concerning you to Lasthenes our kinsman we have written to you also, so that you may know what it says.
1Ma 11:32 'King Demetrius to Lasthenes his father, greeting.
1Ma 11:33 To the nation of the Jews, who are our friends and fulfil their obligations to us, we have determined to do good, because of the good will they show toward us.

1Ma 15:9 When we gain control of our kingdom, we will bestow great honor upon you and your nation and the temple, so that your glory will become manifest in all the earth."

2Sa 24:14 Then David said to Gad, "I am in great distress; let us fall into the hand of the LORD, for his mercy is great; but let me not fall into the hand of man."

Song of Solomon 1:11 We will make you ornaments of gold, studded with silver.

Item 5) Thomas Jefferson on the false doctrine:

"No historical fact is better established, than that the doctrine of
one God, pure and uncompounded, was that of the early ages of
Christianity. . . .Nor was the unity of the Supreme Being ousted
from the Christian creed by the force of reason, but by the sword of
civil government, wielded at the will of the Athanasius. The hocus-
pocus phantasm of a God like another Cerberus, with one body and
three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands of
martyrs. . . .In fact, the Athanasian paradox that one is three, and
three but one, is so incomprehensible to the human mind, that no
candid man can say he has any idea of it, and how can he believe
what presents no idea? He who thinks he does, only deceives
himself. He proves, also, that man, once surrendering his reason,
has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and
like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such
persons, gullibility, which they call faith, takes the helm from the
hand of reason, and the mind becomes a wreck."

From: Jefferson, Thomas (b.1743-d.1826). "The Writings of Thomas
Jefferson: Being His Autobiography, Correspondence, Reports,
Messages, Addresses, and Other Writings, Official and Private:
Published by the Order of the Joint Committee of Congress on the
Library, From the Original Manuscripts, Deposited in the Department
of State, with explanatory notes, by the editor, H.A. Washington."
9 vols. (Washington, D.C.: Taylor & Maury, 1853-1854), part of
letter to theologian James Smith - December 8, 1822, vol 7, pp. 269-
70. E302 .J464 / 06-007150. Appearing also at the following
internet web site: Thomas Jefferson's Letters >
http://www.barefootsworld.net/tjletters.html#unity <.

Also, it may interest some to know that, a vast amount of the pre-
1800's non-Trinitarian (anti-Trinitarian) literature which exists at
the Library of Congress (Washington, D.C.), the largest library in
the world, is there because they once belonged to Thomas Jefferson.

A great quote by Thos. Jefferson on the trinity can be found in
The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, edited By H.A. Washington vol.
7, p. 210 :
"When we shall have done away the incomprehensible jargon
of the Trinitarian arithmetic, that three are one, and one is
three; when we shall have knocked down the artificial scaffolding, reared
to mask from view the simple structure of Jesus; when, in short,
we shall have unlearned everything which has been taught since his
day, and got back to the pure and simple doctrines he inculcated, we
shall then be truly and worthily his disciples; and my opinion is
that if nothing had ever been added to what flowed purely from his
lips, the whole world would at this day have been Christian."

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] Discourse on John 8:58:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 830A]

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Mark 12:29 – 31, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

As Deuteronomy 6:4 says, [AV] Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:“ And Deuteronomy 6:5 amplifies this, [AV] “And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.” And Jesus (Yeshua) made it clear at Matthew 22:37 – 40, [AV] “Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” Yes, we must show love to others as stated at Romans 13:9, [AV] “Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.”

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[2] Discourse on John 8:58:

With regard John 8:58 “ Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:58 AV). Now let’s look at some of the Bible scriptures impinging on this:

a) That Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) did not always exist, but was created long before the foundation or creation of the earth in which he participated:
“ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” (Revelation 3:14 AV)
“ Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:” (Colossians 1:15 AV)
Thus, Jesus’ statement that he was, “, Before Abraham was, I am.” Is obviously correct as he was created before the foundations of the earth were created.
b) Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) participated in the creation of the earth also showing he existed before Abraham:
“16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.” (Colossians 1:16-17 AV)
“ He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.” (John 1:10 AV)
c) When he was down on earth he said he was going back to where he came from and asked his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) to give him back his glory that he previously had, expressed in earthly terms, at the right hand of his Father (YHWH):
“ And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” (John 17:5 AV)
“ What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?” (John 6:62 AV)
“ But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;” (Hebrews 10:12 AV)
“ But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,” (Acts 7:55 AV)
“ Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.” (Acts 2:33 AV)
“ So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.” (Mark 16:19 AV)
“ And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.” (Mark 14:62 AV)
“ Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.” (Luke 22:69 AV)
d) God has given his Son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) power over everything but himself until conditions are turned around:
“22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Coronthians 15:22-28 AV)
e) When asked by the mother some of his followers to let her sons sit on his right hand in heaven, he said:
“ And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.” (Matthew 20:23 AV)
f) Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) never claimed to be God, but the son of God:
“ Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?” (John 10:36 AV)
“ And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.” (John 5:37 AV)
“17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. 19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.” (John 8:17-19 AV)
f) Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) is the one mediator between mankind and God, one can not be a mediator with himself proving they are separate entities in heaven where he is the mediator:
“ For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Timothy 2:5 AV)
g) The God of Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) is his Father, Almighty God:
“ Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” (John 20:17 AV)
“ Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,” (1 Peter 1:3 AV)
“ And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Mark 15:34 AV)
h) His first century followers did not believe he was God:
“ But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.” (1 Corinthians 8:6 AV)
i) Jesus called his Father the only true God:
“1 ¶ These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” (John 17:1-3 AV)
j) His Apostles and the Virgin Mary and his first century followers considered him God’s Son and not Almighty God (YHWH):
“ Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.” (Matthew 14:33 AV)
“ Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.” (1 John 4:15 AV)
“ And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” (Luke 1:35 AV)
“ And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.” (John 1:34 AV)
“16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:16-18 AV)
“29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.” (John 20:29-31 AV)

Now one scholar said this about John 8:58:
“I note two recurring assumptions made by several participants regarding this pericope.
(1) That Jesus' response somehow directly answers his interlocuter's question. I hold that this assumption is invalidated given the tendency of Jesus to answer a question with a question (and to rarely answer any question directly, particularly when addressed to him by an interlocuter, and never in a spiral of ad homonym violence).
(2) That both parties (Jesus and "the Jews") understood the statement of the other(s) unequivocally. I hold that given the emotionally charged context (the (il)legitimacy
of Jesus) that it is very likely there was misunderstanding, hence, when Jesus says "Abraham rejoiced to see my day" (disregarding the variant MSS evidence and patristic commentary which suggests "Abraham desired to see my day") that he could well have been commenting on Abraham's celebrating the birth of Jesus in the presence of the saints (i.e., the bosom of Abraham). The fact that "the Jews" understand him to be saying something different (or that a later redactor makes a convenient change of nuance to signify something different) should not be construed as "obvious." Jesus (in the midst of an ad homonym spiral of violence) is commenting that Abraham (the professed Father of his interlocuters) behaves more admirably than his interlocuters where he (Jesus) is concerned, and finally, that YHWH is the pattern (source) of Jesus' works, and not Abraham (which, Jesus maintains, is not the pattern (source) of his interlocuter's actions either (which leads to the attempted stoning)).

Until an exegesis can be forwarded that doesn't make these assumptions a priori, other alternatives which can make sense of the text without relying on these assumptions (i.e., by not multiplying entities unnecessarily) should hold sway given that the Greek does not differentiate _in and of itself_(apart from theological assumptions) between the alternatives.” [“Mike Phillips (mphilli3@mail.tds.net)]

Now some may ask about the meaning of “I AM” at the end of John 8:58. See broken down by Strong #s:

58 Jesus <2424> said <2036> (5627) unto them <846>, Verily <281>, verily <281>, I say <3004> (5719) unto you <5213>, Before <4250> Abraham <11> was <1096> (5635), I <[1473]> am <[1510> (5748).]

[1473] egw ego eg-o’

a primary pronoun of the first person I (only expressed when emphatic); TDNT-2:343,196; pron

AV-I 365, my 2, me 2, not tr 1; 370

1) I, me, my

[1510] eimi eimi i-mee’

the first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; TDNT-2:398,206; v

AV-I am + 1473 74, am 55, it is I + 1473 6, be 2, I was + 1473 1, have been 1, not tr 7; 146

1) to be, to exist, to happen, to be present

[5748] Tense-Present See 5774
Voice-No Voice Stated See 5799
Mood - Indicative See 5791
Count-1617

Therefore the example of “I am” used in John 8:58 is quite different than for example the “I am” used at Exodus 3:14, see the following breakdown by Strong #s of Exodus 3:14:

14 And God <0430> said <0559> (8799) unto Moses <04872>, I AM <[01961> (8799)] THAT I AM <01961> (8799): and he said <0559> (8799), Thus shalt thou say <0559> (8799) unto the children <01121> of Israel <03478>, I AM hath sent <07971> (8804) me unto you.

[01961] hyh hayah haw-yaw

a primitive root [compare 01933]; TWOT-491; v

AV-was, come to pass, came, has been, were happened, become, pertained, better for thee; 75

1) to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out
1a) (Qal)
1a1) ——-
1a1a) to happen, fall out, occur, take place, come about, come to pass
1a1b) to come about, come to pass
1a2) to come into being, become
1a2a) to arise, appear, come
1a2b) to become
1a2b1) to become
1a2b2) to become like
1a2b3) to be instituted, be established
1a3) to be
1a3a) to exist, be in existence
1a3b) to abide, remain, continue (with word of place or time)
1a3c) to stand, lie, be in, be at, be situated (with word of locality)
1a3d) to accompany, be with
1b) (Niphal)
1b1) to occur, come to pass, be done, be brought about
1b2) to be done, be finished, be gone

[08799] Stem - Qal See 08851
Mood - Imperfect See 08811
Count-19885

As can be seen, although two things may appear similar due to translation into English a language quite different from the original, but when you make reference back the original language, you see the differences that at times can be quite significant. Therefore, no assumption of similarity should ever be made without a check to the original language using Strong or an equivalent method.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] Discourse on Matthew 28:19 and Its Significance:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 831A]

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:22 – 24, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

This scripture brings out an important point expressed at Ephesians 2:8, [Williams New Testament], “For it is by His unmerited favor through faith that you have been saved; it is not by anything that you have done, it is the gift of God.” Yes, our faith will save us, and Almighty God (YHWH) has provided for a kingdom that will be under His son, Jesus (Yeshua), that we pray for at Matthew 6:9 – 10, [AV], “After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.” The coming of His son was foretold at Isaiah 9:6 - 7, [AV] “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.” With his coming, only righteous conditions will exist on earth, and one of these peaceful conditions is mentioned at Isaiah 12:3, [AV] “Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.”

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[2] Discourse on Matthew 28:19 and Its Significance:

Baptizing In The Name Of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit This scripture, Matthew 28:19, dealing with the command, " Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" (Matthew 28:19 AV). Most individuals are familiar with this scripture, but few understand the reason for baptizing this way and the significance of this scripture:

Let's first deal with, "In the Name of the Father"

This is necessary as it is recognizing the office or authority of Almighty God (YHWH) who created everything and who has always existed per Psalms 90:2. This is made clear, " That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH [(YHWH)], art the most high over all the earth." (Psalms 83:18 AV), which clearly shows that he is "the most high over all the earth." And he is the source of live as stated, " For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light." (Psalms 36:9 AV)

He, Almighty God (YHWH), is the creator of all things, " And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth." (2 Kings 19:15 AV), and " For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us." (Isaiah 33:22 AV).

{{ god
n.
1. God
a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
b. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
2. A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
3. An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
4. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
5. A very handsome man.
A powerful ruler or despot. [The American Heritage(r) Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition]

As can readily be seen from the dictionary definition of god that it is a title and not a proper name and is applied to something above or over something else. Notice definition 1. (a) which is what Almighty God (YHWH) is. Now see definition 2. Which is what his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is as he is a lessor one who takes orders from his Father (YHWH). This still makes the son a God within the definition of 2, but NOT the Almighty God (YHWH).
There is only ONE Almighty God who is the creator of all including his son, " And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" (Revelation 3:14 AV), " Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" (Colossians 1:15 AV), etc. which clearly show the only begotten Son , Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) was the first of Almighty God's creation.

Since he is the Son of God he would of course also be a god, but of course lessor than his Father; therefore, since he was a lessor one there would be no violation of the 1 st. Commandment of the Ten Commandments " Thou shalt have no other gods before me." (Exodus 20:3 AV) since he would NOT be before his Father (YHWH). Therefore, there is only ONE Almighty God, not two, three, or four; so genuine Christianity like Judaism are both monotheistic.


Let's first deal with, "In The Name of the Son "

This is necessary as it is recognizing the office or authority of the Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) who is the only begotten son and the first of creation by his Father (YHWH). His Father (YHWH) exalted him to a position only second only to himself, "9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:9-11 AV). And, he was given, " And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS." (Revelation 19:16 AV)

He proved faithful to his Father (YHWH), " And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood," (Revelation 1:5 AV); therefore, he became, "9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; 10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec." (Hebrews 5:9-10 AV).

And, last but not least, he became, "" For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" (1 Timothy 2:5 AV), and " And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel." (Hebrews 12:24 AV)


Let's first deal with, "In The Name of the Holy Spirit"

This is necessary to recognize the function or activity of the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost). This is God's (YHWH's) active force that goes forth or emanates from Almighty God (YHWH). One of its functions is to act as a Comforter to mankind, " But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." (John 14:26 AV), "16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." (John 14:16-17 AV).

It is the Creator's (YHWH's) force for getting things accomplished, " And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" (Ephesians 6:17 AV), " But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God." (1 Corinthians 2:10 AV).

God (YHWH) pours out his active force onto his followers, "28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit." (Joel 2:28-29 AV), and also caused inspired individuals to " For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." (2 Peter 1:21 AV).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON REPENTANCE:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 832A]

And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear them not: for I have delivered them into thine hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee. Joshua 10:8, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Almighty God (YHWH) did indeed deliver His servants by giving them victory over their heathen adversaries as recorded at Psalms 44:2 – 4, [AV] “How thou didst drive out the heathen with thy hand, and plantedst them; how thou didst afflict the people, and cast them out. 3 For they got not the land in possession by their own sword, neither did their own arm save them: but thy right hand, and thine arm, and the light of thy countenance, because thou hadst a favour unto them. 4 Thou art my King, O God: command deliverances for Jacob.” He gives deliverance to his servants as this scripture clearly shows.

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[2] DISCOURSE ON REPENTANCE:

WHY REPENTANCE IS NECESSARY:

The subject of repentance can not be understood unless we first understand why repentance is necessary; therefore, let's look at what the scriptures have to say on the subject:

" Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12 AV) which shows that repentance is necessary as sin entered the world.
This is also clearly shown by, "9 ¶ And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." (Luke 18:9-14 AV).

This is further made clear by, " For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Romans 3:23 AV) therefore making clear we need to turn our lives from sin and repent.

LIVES MUST BE BROUGHT IN HARMONY WITH GOD'S (YHWH'S) WORD:

Let's see what the Bible has to say with regard turning our life around.

First consider:

"This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
20 But ye have not so learned Christ;
21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness." (Ephesians 4:17-24 AV) which clearly shows we must strip off the old personality with its works of uncleanness and greed. This would include depraved sexual lust, God dishonoring false dogma, greed, hate of fellow man, hedonism, lasciviousness, etc.

Now consider:

" For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:" (1 Peter 4:3 AV) which just reinforces what was said in Ephesians, clearly showing we must turn our lives around and STOP walking in "lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries [these would include belief in false dogma, practices and traditions including hero worship]:"

Likewise:

" Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 ¶ But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:" (Colossiams 3:5-10 Av). This scripture once more clearly shows we must STOP practicing "fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:" Therefore we can see for true repentance, we must cease and decease from practices that are NOT approved by God (YHWH).

TRUE REPENTANCE REQUIRED WHEN ONE TURNS TO GOD:

Clearly the Bible shows true repentance required when one turns to God; let's review a pertinent scripture on this subject:

" But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance." (Acts 26:20 AV). Ah, here we see, we must do works that "meet for repentance." What could some of these works be? Well some of these words would be ceasing to do the things one previously did that go against his laws and principles and that bring dishonor to him. What are some of these? Well as previously shown, these would be such things as lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries [these would include belief in false dogma, practices and traditions including hero worship], of course it would not be limited to simply not doing these wrongs, but would require effort to counteract the effects of your previous wrongs such as exposing false dogma, starting to love your fellow man, and ceasing to live a hedonistic life style and warning others against such things as deviant sex, illegal drug use, and other debasing things.

Remember:

" The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9 AV). This should clearly behoove us to turn our life around. It should be clear that Almighty God (YHWH) takes no delight in those who refuse to do so. This is made clear, "11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? 12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth. 13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it. 14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right; 15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die. 16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live." (Ezekial 33:11-16 AV).

In fact:

" I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance." (Luke 15:7 AV), clearly shows that God (YHWH) and his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) are made joyful by sinners who truly repent.

ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED FOR REPENTANCE:

We must gain accurate knowledge to strip off the old personality as clearly shown by:

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith." (Romans 12:1-3 AV) which clearly shows we must make our lives over to be acceptable to God (YHWH) and this can only be done by "not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind" which we all know is through study to gain accurate knowledge so "not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind". Likewise, "through the grace given unto me," we should, " So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another." (Romans 12:5 AV).

To help others and ourselves to come to an accurate knowledge, we should:

" Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15 AV). We must study God's (YHWH's) word and let others in a spirit of neighbor love know the truth also.

Last, but definitely not least, we must:

"9 Be not guilty of falsehood one to another: having stript off the old man, together with his practices,
10 And having put on the new-who is being moulded afresh unto personal knowledge, after the image of him that hath created him,-" (Colosians 3:9-10 Rotherham Bible)

CHRISTIAN TEACHING EMPHASIS REPENTANCE:

At " And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (Matthew 24:14 AV) Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) gave the command to his true followers to witness to the nations and this is clearly emphasized as follows:

"Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel." (Mark 1:14-15 AV). Therefore, for true repentance acceptable to God (YHWH) and his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) to take place action on our part to make the word of God (YHWH) know to others is required.

In fact, this is so important that repentance can only take place:

" And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." (Luke 24:47 AV)

This truth is further highlighted as:

"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead." (Acts 17:30 AV). From this we can see ignorance will no longer be tolerated clearly showing ignorance of God (YHWH) dishonoring dogma and of his laws and principles will no longer be tolerated by God (YHWH) or by his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves). Therefore, it is truly important, as shown by this scripture to turn our life around.

Also, true repentance requires faith:

"And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ." (Acts 20:21 AV) clearly that our leader, Christ Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) the only " For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" (1 Timothy 2:5 AV) " taught publickly and from house to house"; therefore it is clear we to should "Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ."

Last, but not Least:

" And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." (Luke 24:47 AV); which is in complete harmony with the commission Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) put on ALL his genuine followers as follows, " And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (Matthew 24:14 AV)

WHAT HAPPENS IF IN A MOMENT OF WEAKNESS WE COMMIT A SIN?:

First we must remember our savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is compassionate in carrying out his assignment given to him by his Father (YHWH), "19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 ¶ But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." (1 Corinthians 15:19-28 AV).

" My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" (1 John 2:1 AV); clearly shows we have an "advocate with the Father" who will assist those genuinely trying to live their lives in harmony with God's (YHWH's) will so we should fear not in these cases.

This compassionate nature of our savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is made even clearer by:

"Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ." (Galations 6:1-2 AV). As can be seen from this scripture that if one inadvertently takes a false step we are under obligation to "ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ." This would be of no purpose if the errant one's mistake could not be corrected.

Therefore, because we are all sinners, in order to merit the mercy and compassion of our leader Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) we must:

" Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent." (Revelation 2:5 AV), thus true repentance is the key to our savior extending his love and mercy to us.

NOW, WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR MERCY?:

First, we must confess our sins and wrong beliefs to God (YHWH) through his Son and only mediator between God and man, and not to some false mediator or go between such as a priest, statue of a saint or the Virgin Mary, etc.

" He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13 AV)

And:

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." (1 John 1:9 AV).

And:

" I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah." (Psalms 32:5 AV)

So we can see from the above scriptures, it is necessary to confess our sins to God (YHWH) through his Son and only mediator between God and man, and not to some false mediator or go between such as a priest, statue of a saint or the Virgin Mary, etc.

HOWEVER, NO REPENTENCE IS POSSIBLE FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ACCEPT GOD'S MERCY AND THEN RETURN TO A WILLFUL PRACTICE OF DISBELIEF AND SIN:

It is clearly shown that it is impossible for those who once enlightened willfully return like " But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." (2 Peter 2:22 AV) to gain the benefits of repentance, or in other words, once saved is not always saved:

"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
9 ¶ But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
10 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:" (Hebrews 6:4-11 AV)

And:

"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Hebrews 10:26-31 AV)

And:

"For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:" (2 Peter 2:20-22 AV).

As can clearly be seen, as stated at the beginning of this section "it is impossible for those who once enlightened willfully return like " But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." (2 Peter 2:22 AV) to gain the benefits of repentance, or in other words, once saved is not always saved:"

MERCY AND COMPASION LIKE THE MERCY AND COMPASSION OF OUR SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST IS REQUIRED OF US:

Just as Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) extends mercy and compassion to us, we must also extend it to others:

"Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
3 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him." (Luke 17:3-4 AV)

And:

"For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6:14-15 AV)

Which clearly shows that if we are genuine followers of our leader and savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) we must be like him and extends mercy and compassion to others.

LAST, WHAT IS THE INDICATION OF TRUE REPENTANCE?:

Clearly we must first:

" If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14 AV)

We must turn back from our former wrong course of action and false belief:

"When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.
14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live." (Ezekial 33:13-16 AV)

And:

"Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.
31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" (Ezekial 18:30-31 AV)

This need to turn your life around and repent is once more emphasized in the New Testament:

" Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;" (Acts 3:19 AV)

Last, but not least, remember we must confess our transgressions to God (YHWH) in prayer through his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) who is the only " For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" (1 Timothy 2:5 AV), and as his assignment from his Father (YHWH) mediates towards us " But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises." (Hebrews 8:6 AV):

" He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13 AV)

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 833A]

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1 Peter 1:3, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

And 2 Corinthians 1:3 – 5, makes this clear, [AV] “Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; 4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God. 5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.” And we have the resurrection of Christ recorded at 1 Corinthians 15:3 – 4, [AV] “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” And the scriptures clearly state at Revelation 20:6 – 7, [AV] “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the Canarium odontophyllum

Dabai, a very new name, new fruit to me being a West Malaysian. It looks like olive but tastes something like avocado, delicious. The Dabai fruit also known as ‘Sibu olive’ or ‘Ka Lang’ in Foochows is indigenous to Sarawak and found along riverbanks in Sibu, Kapit and Sarikei divisions.
It is a seasonal fruit and highly perishable fruit with a shelf life of 2-3 days. However recent development of a freezing package enables storage of frozen dabai fruit for up to a year, making it available year round for marketing to markets further afield and for downstream activities of value-added products.
Dabai fruits are white in color when it is not ripe and turns into blue-black when it is ripe. The flesh inside is yellow and it has a 3 faceted diamond shaped seed. Not only the skin and flesh is edible but the kernel (insides of the seed) is too. Chop the seed into half then use a toothpick or something to dig the white edible thingy which is as tasty like fresh peanuts.
Preparation : Soaking them in warm water of 60 degree Celsius for about 20 minutes to soften the mesocarp and eaten usually with a bit of salt or soya sauce, or soya saucer with sugar. Never ever use hot or boiling water.
The popularity of dabai as an exotic and health fruit in¬creased over the years with the department producing recipes for pizza, fried rice, mixed vegetables, maki (dried seaweed roll), pickles, desserts and salad sauce based on the fruit.
Research by ARC, Semongok have shown that dabai fruit is nutritious with high values of energy (339kcal), protein (3.8%), fat (26.2%), fiber, and minerals such as potassium (810mg), calcium (200mg), magnesium (106mg) and vitamin E (257ppm) as compared to other underutilized fruit. Current studies by UPM, Serdang have revealed that the main fatty acid composition of dabai – palmitic acid (37-39%), Oleic acid (38-42%) and Linoleic acid (15-18%) is very similar to that of palm oil. Furthermore, these studies also revealed that fruit possesses high antioxidant properties with the skin exhibiting the greatest concentration. The high antioxidant capacity of dabai fruit is due to its polyphenol components. The phenolic compounds in it include anthocyanins, flavonoids and phenolic acids. Dabai fruit contained 2.05-2.49mg anthocyanin/g dried weight as compared to grape of 0.75-0.80mg. Dabai may be a promising source of natural antioxidant phenolics for nutraceutical and functional food industry. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM http://bombasticborneo.com/2012/01/dabai-fruit/ ON 3/17/2018]
Seeds are available from Tradewinds and they say this of it with catalog number, 996 - Canarium odontophyllum - Borneo Olive
A Bornean fruit, often said to be prized as a delicacy, that once soaked in warm water has a tasty, nutty, avocado-like flavor. Fruits are oval, with a blue-gray-purple exterior and yellow flesh. Tropical tree, likely no frost tolerance. Very rare.

Pictures of the fruit and tree are available at http://bombasticborneo.com/2012/01/dabai-fruit/

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] Discourse on Revelation 1:17-18:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 834A]

Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Genesis 6:12 – 13, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

This shows the rejection of many of the truth, and that Almighty God (YHWH) would reject this ones just as he had of the evil ones before the flood of Noah’s day as recorded at Ezekiel 7:2, [AV] “Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.” Today, the culmination of the end times is close at hand, and like conditions of evil now exist. 1 Peter 4:7 -8, shows what will result, [AV] “But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. 8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.”

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[2] Discourse on Revelation 1:17-18:

INTRODUCTION:

Let’s first look at the two scriptures in several different Bible versions/translations:

17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. (Revelation 1:17-18 AV – Authorized Kind James Bible)

17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as one dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying, Fear not; I am the first and the last,
18 and the Living one; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades. (Revelation 1:17-18 ASV – American Standard Version)

17 And when I had seen him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying: Fear not. I am the First and the Last,
18 And alive, and was dead. And behold I am living for ever and ever and have the keys of death and of hell. (Revelation 1:17-18 Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible)

BIBLE SCHOLARS AND ENCYCLOPEDIAS AND COMMENTARIES ON REVELATION 1:17-18:

Let’s see what leading scholars consider these scriptures to be about as many none scholars have an erroneous understanding of what they purport to be dealing with:

One renown scholar, Theodore Beza, said:

1:17 {10} And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. {11} And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; {12} I am the first and the last:

(10) A religious fear, that goes before the calling of the saints, and their full confirmation to take on them the vocation of God.
(11) A divine confirmation of this calling, partly by sign, and partly by word of power.
(12) A most elegant description of this calling contained in three things, which are necessary to a just vocation: first the authority of him who calls, for he is the beginning and end of all things, in this verse, for he is eternal and omnipotent #Re 1:8. Secondly the sum of his prophetic calling and revelation #Re 1:9. Lastly a declaration of those persons to whom this prophecy is by the commandment of God directed in the description of it #Re 1:20. [Beza, Theodore. "Commentary on Ephesians 4". "The 1599 Geneva Study Bible". 1600-1645.]

Another, renown scholar, A.R. Fausset, A.M., said:

17. So fallen is man that God’s manifestation of His glorious presence overwhelms him.

laid his right hand upon me—So the same Lord Jesus did at the Transfiguration to the three prostrate disciples, of whom John was one, saying, Be not afraid. The "touch" of His hand, as of old, imparted strength.

unto me—omitted in the oldest manuscripts.

the first . . . the last—(#Isa 41:4 44:6 48:12). From eternity, and enduring to eternity: "the First by creation, the Last by retribution: the First, because before Me there was no God formed; the Last, because after Me there shall be no other: the First, because from Me are all things; the Last, because to Me all things return" [RICHARD OF ST. VICTOR].

18. Translate as Greek, " And THE LIVING ONE": connected with last sentence, #Re 1:17.

and was—Greek, " and (yet) I became."

alive for evermore—Greek, " living unto the ages of ages": not merely "I live, " but I have life, and am the source of it to My people. "To Him belongs absolute being, as contrasted with the relative being of the creature; others may share, He only hath immortality: being in essence, not by mere participation, immortal"[ THEODORET in TRENCH]. One oldest manuscript, with English Version, reads Amen." Two others, and most of the oldest versions and Fathers, omit it. His having passed through death as one of us, and now living in the infinite plenitude of life, reassures His people, since through Him death is the gate of resurrection to eternal life.

have . . . keys of hell—Greek, " Hades"; Hebrew, " Sheol." "Hell" in the sense, the place of torment, answers to a different Greek word, namely, Gehenna. I can release from the unseen world of spirits and from DEATH whom I will. The oldest manuscripts read by transposition, "Death and Hades," or Hell." It is death (which came in by sin, robbing man of his immortal birthright, #Ro 5:12) that peoples Hades, and therefore should stand first in order. Keys are emblems of authority, opening and shutting at will "the gates of Hades" (#Ps 9:13,14 Isa 38:10 Mt 16:18). [Fausset, A. R., A.M. "Commentary on Micah 5". "Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible". 1871.]

A Bible Dictionary/Commentary said:

In the Hebrew scriptures just considered, it is evident that ´avad·dohn' is paralleled with Sheol and death. At Revelation 1:18 we find Christ Jesus stating: “I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.” His power with regard to the abyss is shown at Luke 8:31. That he has destroying power, including the power of destruction over Satan, is evident from Hebrews 2:14, which says that Jesus partook of blood and flesh in order that “through his death he might bring to nothing the one having the means to cause death, that is, the Devil.” At Revelation 19:11-16 he is clearly represented as God’s appointed Destroyer or Executioner.

Jesus speaks of himself as having “the keys of death and of Hades” (Re 1:18), and he uses these in releasing those held by death. (Joh 5:28, 29; Re 20:13) Jehovah God’s release of Jesus from Hades serves as a “guarantee to all men” of God’s future day of judgment or reckoning and provides assurance that there will be a resurrection of those in Hades. (Ac 17:31; 1Co 15:20, 21) Those inheriting God’s Kingdom in immortality are described as triumphing over death in their resurrection, so that its “sting” is overcome.—1Co 15:50, 54-56; compare Ho 13:14; Re 20:6. [Insight, Vol. 1]

CONCLUSION:

Clearly, here the Apostle John, like most other individuals in the bible who received such visions, was terrified! This is clearly shown by his fainting; however, he was revived by the awe inspiring glowing vision of Christ. Christ put his hand on him and identified himself. He identified himself as the First and the Last, in that he was the first creation of God (YHWH), “ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” (Revelation 3:14 AV) and “ Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:” (Colossians 1:15 AV). He was last in the sense that he was the only begotten Son of Almighty God (YHWH), “ And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” (Revelation 1:5 AV) and “ He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18 AV). Strong defines ‘last’ as follows: “2078 escatwv eschatos es’-khat-os a superlative probably from 2192 (in the sense of contiguity); TDNT-2:697,264; adj AV-last 46, lowest 2, uttermost 2, last state 2, ends 1, latter end 1; 54

1) extreme
1a) last in time or in place
1b) last in a series of places
1c) last in a temporal succession
2) the last
2a) last, referring to time
2b) of space, the uttermost part, the end, of the earth
2c) of rank, grade of worth, last i.e. lowest

We can see from this definition 1c applies as he, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is both first as he was the first of creation and last in that he was the only begotten Son of Almighty God (YHWH).

To John this would not contradict his impression that it was Jesus since he had often shown he was God’s (YHWH’s) only begotten Son and the only one to sit at his right hand, “14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 ¶ John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.” (John 1:14-18 AV) and “ Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;” (Hebrews 8:1 AV)

Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) by calling himself the Living One who had died and was now alive forever, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) confirmed to the Apostle John that He was indeed the only Begotten Son of the Most High (YHWH). He who had come first as the Savior was now preparing to come again as the Judge, “ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.” (Revelation 19:11 AV) and “ I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” (John 5:30 AV)

Now note, He, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) says, “I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” Clearly showing that his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) had sent him, which was part of his assignment, “27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:27-28 AV). Therefore, he holds the keys of death and Hell/Hades/Gehenna .

So here we see a faithful Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) had been given authority over all by his Father (YHWH) with the “, it is manifest that he is excepted” exception of himself. This subjection to his Father (YHWH) is clearly shown by the faithful Son’s statements, “ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19 AV) and “ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 AV).

Those denying that Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is not the faithful only begotten Son of Almighty God (YHWH) and not God (YHWH) are thus clearly committing blasphemy.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON REVELATION 22:12-13:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 835A]

And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. Genesis 6:5, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, the conditions just before the great flood of Noah’s day were very bad, and the conditions, now, are rapidly getting that way as shown by recent events in Europe and the middle east. However,Almighty God (YHWH) per Genesis 8:21, will not cause another great flood, [AV] “And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.” As Jeremiah 17:9 states, [AV] “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” God says of the evil ones at Matthew 15:19, [AV] “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON REVELATION 22:12-13:

INTRODUCTION:

Let's first look at the two scriptures in several different Bible versions/translations:

"12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." (Revelation 22:12-13 AV - Authorized King James Version)

"12 Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to render to each man according as his work is.
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." ." (Revelation 22:12-13 ASV - American Standard Version of 1901)

"12 Lo! I come speedily, and my reward is with me, to render unto each one as, his, work is.
13 I, am the A and the Z, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End." (Revelation 22:12-13 Rothrham)

BIBLE ENCYCLOPEDIA ON REVELATION 22:12-13:

The International Standard Encyclopedia of the Bible says:

ALPHA AND OMEGA

al'-fa, o'-me-ga, o-me'-ga (Alpha and Omega = A and O):

The first and last letters of the Greek alphabet, hence, symbolically, "beginning and end"; in Revelation "The Eternal One" in Revelation 1:8 of the Father, in Revelation 21:6 and Revelation 22:13 of the Son. Compare Theodoret, Eusebius, Historia Ecclesiastica, iv. 8:

"We used alpha down to omega, i.e. all." A similar expression is found in Latin (Martial, v.26). Compare Aretas (Cramer's Catenae Graecae in New Testament) on Revelation 1:8 and Tertullian (Monog, 5): "So also two Greek letters, the first and last, did the Lord put on Himself, symbols of the beginning and the end meeting in Him, in order that just as alpha rolls on to omega and omega returns again to alpha, so He might show that both the evolution of the beginning to the end is in Him and again the return of the end to the beginning." Cyprian, Testim, ii.1; vi.22, iii.100, Paulinus of Nola Carm. xix.645; xxx.89; Prudentius, Cathem., ix.10-12. In Patristic and later literature the phrase is regularly applied to the Son. God blesses Israel from 'aleph to taw (Leviticus 26:3-13), but curses from waw to mem (Leviticus 26:14-43). So Abraham observed the whole law from 'aleph to taw. Consequently, "Alpha and Omega" may be a Greek rendering of the Hebrew phrase, which expressed among the later Jews the whole extent of a thing.

CONCLUSION:

In these two scriptures we are dealing with the symbolic meaning to the use of the first letter of the Koine Greek alphabet, Alpha, and the last letter, omega. As the International Bible Dictionary of the Bible states, it means the ''beginning and end' and shows how in Revelation 1:8 this phase is applied to the Father (YHWH) "6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." (Revelation 1:6-8 AV). Here we note it says, "6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father" clearly here referring to two individuals, God the Father (YHWH), and his God the Son (Yeshua or YHWH saves) . The term Alpha and Omega in "8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Which is made clearer in the Rothrham Bible as "8 I, am, the A, and, the Z, saith the Lord,-the, God who Is, and who Was, and who is Coming, The Almighty."
Clearly showing he has no beginning in keeping with "2 Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." (Revelation 1:8 ASV), which is quite different from how this same phrase is later used at Revelation 21:6 and 22:13 to apply to the Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) who had a beginning as shown by " And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" (Revelation 3:14 AV); he was the first created thing with regard to all that was created.

To get a clear understanding of Revelation 22:13, we need to look at it in contest as follows:

"9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." (Revelation 22:9-16 AV)

We note that Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is quoted by the Apostle John as saying, "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." [these being the Angels he was given authority over to carry out his assignment at 1 Corinthians 15:27-28.]. Since Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) had a beginning as shown " And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" (Revelation 3:14 AV) and "15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;" (1 Colossians 1:15-19 AV). Clearly Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is separate individual from his Father (YHWH) as the scripture states, ". 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;" which makes plain that his Father (YHWH) was pleased that "all fulness dwell" in his faithful Son. Also, the scripture brings out in what manner Alpha and Omega properly applies to the Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) when it states, "15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." Where it shows that after his creation by his Father (YHWH), he, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) worked along with his Father in creating all of the remainder of creation in the entire universe. His, the Son's Alpha and Omega symbolic application is further made clear in "17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." Thus he is the Alpha in the sense he helped create all else except himself and the Omega as his Father (YHWH) has given him immortality for being faithful, and this is made certain by ". 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence."

So here we see a faithful Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) had been given authority over all by his Father (YHWH) with the ", it is manifest that he is excepted" exception of himself. This subjection to his Father (YHWH) is clearly shown by the faithful Son's statements, " Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19 AV) and " Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (John 14:28 AV).

Those denying that Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is not the faithful only begotten Son of Almighty God (YHWH) and not God (YHWH) are thus clearly committing blasphemy.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON REVELATION 22:6


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 836A]

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
Matthew 24:21 - 22, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

And as Revelation 7:13 – 14, [AV] says of the ones coming out of this tribulation, “And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” But, before this occurs Daniel 12:1 shows there will be, [AV] “And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON REVELATION 22:6

Let’s look at this teXt in different translations so as to get an accurate understanding of it.
22:6
And he said unto me, These words are faithful and true: and the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angels to show unto his servants the things which must shortly come to pass. [The American Standard Version]
And he said unto me, "These sayings are faithful and true," and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent His angel to show unto His servants the things which must shortly be done. [The Third Millennium Bible]
And he said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true, for the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants F87 what must soon take place." [The Revised Standard Version]

And he said to me: These words are most faithful and true. And the Lord God of the spirits of the prophets sent his angel to shew his servant the things which must be done shortly. [The Douay-Rheims Bible]

And he said to me: “These words are faithful and true; yes, Jehovah the
of the prophets sent his angel forth to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. [The Kingdom Interlinear Translation]

And he said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true, and the Lord, the God of prophetic spirist, sent his angel to show his servants what must happen soon.
[The New American Bible, world Catholic Press, approved at the Vatican by the Pope on Sept. 18, 1970]

et dixit mihi haec verba fidelissima et vera sunt et Dominus Deus spirituum prophetarum misit angelum suum ostendere servis suis quae oportet fieri cito [Latin Vulgate]


Second, lets consider what one so called church father said on this scripture, “Theophilus of Antioch (2nd century C.E.) declared: “Concerning the righteousness which the law enjoined, confirmatory utterances are found both with the prophets and in the Gospels, because they all spoke inspired by one Spirit of God.” Theophilus then uses such expressions as ‘says the Gospel’ (quoting Mt 5:28, 32, 44, 46; 6:3) and “the divine word gives us instructions” (quoting 1Ti 2:2 and Ro 13:7, Cool.—The Ante-Nicene Fathers, 1962, Vol. II, pp. 114, 115, “Theophilus to Autolycus” (XII, XIII).

Now, let’s consider the scriptures cited above:
“ But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” (Matthew 5:28 AV)

“ But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” (Matthew 5:32 AV)

“ But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;” (Matthew 5:44 AV)

“ For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?” (Matthew 5:46 AV)

“ But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:” (Matthew 6:3 AV)

“ For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.” (1 Timothy 2:2 AV)

“ Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.” (Romans 13:7 AV)

Third, let’s consider what some very reliable experts from other centuries had to say on this scripture:

Theodore Beza 1600-1645:
22:6 2 And he said unto me, These sayings [are] faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

(2) This whole book is concluded and made up by a confirmation, and a salutation. The confirmation has three parts: the words of the angel (Revelation 22:15), the words of Christ, (Revelation 22:16,17) and the supplication made by John from divine authority, (Revelation 22:18-20). By the speech of the angel this prophecy is confirmed to (Revelation 22:7,Cool, and then he speaks of the use of this book in the verses following. The prophecy is first confirmed by the angel from the nature of it, that it is faithful and true: Secondly, from the nature of the efficient cause, both principal, which is God, and instrumental, which is the angel in this verse. Thirdly, from the promises of God concerning his coming to effect all these things, and concerning our salvation; (Revelation 22:7). Fourthly, from the testification of John himself; (Revelation 22:Cool. The rest of the speech of the angel rending to the same end, John interrupted or broke off by his unadvised act of worshipping him, in the same verse, which the angel forbidding, teaches him that adoration must be given not to him, but only to God, as for himself, that he is of such nature and office, as he may not be adored: which thing also was in like manner done; (Revelation 19:10).
[Beza, Theodore. "Commentary on Revelation 22". "The 1599 Geneva Study Bible". 1600-1645.]

A. R. Fausset, AM 1871.
These sayings are true--thrice repeated (Revelation 19:9, 21:5). For we are slow to believe that God is as good as He is. The news seems to us, habituated as we are to the misery of this fallen world, too good to be true [NANGLE]. They are no dreams of a visionary, but the realities of God's sure word.
holy--so ANDREAS. But A, B, Vulgate, Syriac, and Coptic read, "(the Lord God of the) spirits (of the prophets)." The Lord God who with His Spirit inspired their spirits so as to be able to prophesy. There is but one Spirit, but individual prophets, according to the measure given them (1 Corinthians 12:4-11), had their own spirits [BENGEL] (1 Peter 1:11, 2 Peter 1:21).
be done--Greek, "come to pass." yriac. blessed--(Revelation 1:3).
[Fausset, A. R., A.M. "Commentary on Revelation 22". "Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible". 1871.]

Fourth, Let’s consider the text of the scripture by Strong numbers using the Authorized King James Bible: [Note, Strong has a trinitarian bias so bare this in mind]

Kai; ei\pevn moi, OuJ'toi oiJ lovgoi pistoi; kai; ajlhqinoiv, kai; oJ kuvrioß, oJ qeo;ß tw'n pneumavtwn tw'n profhtw'n, ajpevsteilen to;n a~ggelon aujtou' dei'xai toi'ß douvloiß aujtou' aJ; dei' genevsqai ejn tavcei.


6 ¶ And <2532> he said <2036> (5627) unto me <3427>, These <3778> sayings <3056> are faithful <4103> and <2532> true <228>: and <2532> the Lord <2962> God <2316> of the holy <40> prophets <4396> sent <649> (5656) his <846> angel <32> to shew <1166> (5658) unto his <846> servants <1401> the things which <3739> must <1163> (5748) shortly <1722> <5034> be done <1096> (5635).

Strong's Number: 2962 Browse Lexicon
Original Word
Word Origin
kuvrioß
from kuros (supremacy)
Transliterated Word
TDNT Entry
Kurios
3:1039,486
Phonetic Spelling
Parts of Speech
koo'-ree-os /cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=2962g/cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=2962g
Noun Masculine
Definition
1. he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lord
a. the possessor and disposer of a thing
1. the owner; one who has control of the person, the master
2. in the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperor
b. is a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants greet their master
c. this title is given to: God, the Messiah

Strong's Number: 2316 Browse Lexicon
Original Word
Word Origin
qeovß
of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with (3588)) the supreme Divinity
Transliterated Word
TDNT Entry
Theos
3:65,322
Phonetic Spelling
Parts of Speech
theh'-os /cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=2316g/cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=2316g
Noun Masculine
Definition
2. a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities
3. the Godhead, trinity
d. God the Father, the first person in the trinity
e. Christ, the second person of the trinity
f. Holy Spirit, the third person in the trinity
4. spoken of the only and true God
g. refers to the things of God
h. his counsels, interests, things due to him
5. whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any way
i. God's representative or viceregent
of

Strong's Number: 32 Browse Lexicon
Original Word
Word Origin
a[ggeloß
from aggello [probably derived from (71), cf (34)] (to bring tidings)
Transliterated Word
TDNT Entry
Aggelos
1:74,12
Phonetic Spelling
Parts of Speech
ang'-el-os /cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=0032g/cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=0032g
Noun Masculine
Definition
6. a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, an angel, a messenger from God
</TD King James Word Usage - Total: 186 angel 179, messenger 7

Strong's Number: 4103 Browse Lexicon
Original Word
Word Origin
pistovß
from (3982)
Transliterated Word
TDNT Entry
Pistos
6:174,849
Phonetic Spelling
Parts of Speech
pis-tos' /cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=4103g/cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=4103g
Adjective
Definition
7. trusty, faithful
j. of persons who show themselves faithful in the transaction of business, the execution of commands, or the discharge of official duties
k. one who kept his plighted faith, worthy of trust
l. that can be relied on
8. easily persuaded
m. believing, confiding, trusting
n. in the NT one who trusts in God's promises
3. one who is convinced that Jesus has been raised from the dead
4. one who has become convinced that Jesus is the Messiah and author of salvation
</TD King James Word Usage - Total: not tr 1 faithful 53, believe 6, believing 2, true 2, faithfully 1, believer 1, sure 1

Strong's Number: 228 Browse Lexicon
Original Word
Word Origin
ajlhqinovß
from (227)
Transliterated Word
TDNT Entry
Alethinos
1:249,37
Phonetic Spelling
Parts of Speech
al-ay-thee-nos' /cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=0228g/cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=0228g
Adjective
Definition
9. that which has not only the name and resemblance, but the real nature corresponding to the name, in every respect corresponding to the idea signified by the name, real, true genuine
o. opposite to what is fictitious, counterfeit, imaginary, simulated or pretended
p. it contrasts realities with their semblances
q. opposite to what is imperfect defective, frail, uncertain
10. true, veracious, sincere
</TD King James Word Usage - Total: 27

Strong's Number: 40 Browse Lexicon
Original Word
Word Origin
a&gioß
from hagos (an awful thing) [cf (53), (2282)]
Transliterated Word
TDNT Entry
Hagios
1:88,14
Phonetic Spelling
Parts of Speech
hag'-ee-os /cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=0040g/cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=0040g
Adjective
Definition
11. most holy thing, a saint
</TD King James Word Usage - Total: 229 holy 161, saints 61, Holy One 4, miscellaneous 3

Fifth, Let’s consider several other reliable sources:

(Heb. mal'ak yehwah). Supernatural being who bears a message on behalf of God. In many passages in the Old Testament, the angel of the Lord is identified with God, while in other instances a distinction is made between the Lord and the angel. In general, however, the terms "the angel of the Lord, " "the Lord, " and "God" are interchangeable.
The angel of the Lord is the messenger of both good and evil. He comes to Hagar after she has fled from the abusive Sarai (Gen 16:7-14) to assure her that God has heard about her misery and that her descendants will be too numerous to count. She names him "You are the God who sees me" (v. 13). The angel of the Lord pronounces a curse on the people of Meroz, because they refused to come to the help of the Lord (Jud 5:23). [Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology Angel of the Lord [S]]

Angel of the Lord. [B]
(Genesis 16:7) etc. (The special form in which God manifested himself to man, and hence Christ’s visible form before the incarnation. Compare (Acts 7:30-38) with the corresponding Old-Testament history; and (Genesis 18:1,13,14,33) and Genesis 19:1 ) [Smith's Bible Dictionary]

With good reason, then, John urged Christians to “test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God.” (1Jo 4:1-3; compare Re 22:6.) He then went on to show that God’s true inspired expressions were coming through the genuine Christian congregation, not through unchristian worldly sources. John’s statement was, of course, inspired by Almighty God, but even aside from this, John’s letter had laid a solid foundation for making the straightforward statement: “He that gains the knowledge of God listens to us; he that does not originate with God does not listen to us. This is how we take note of the inspired expression of truth and the inspired expression of error.” (1Jo 4:6) Far from being mere dogmatism, John had shown that he and other true Christians were manifesting the fruits of God’s spirit, primarily love, and were proving by their right conduct and truthful speech that they were. [Bible Dictionary Insight.]

God [N] [T] [B] [E] (good ). Throughout the Hebrew Scriptures two chief names are used for the one true divine Being--ELOHIM, commonly translated God in our version, and JEHOVAH, translated Lord . Elohim is the plural of Eloah (in Arabic Allah ); it is often used in the short form EL (a word signifying strength , as in EL-SHADDAI, God Almighty, the name by which God was specially known to the patriarchs. (Genesis 17:1; 28:3; Exodus 6:3) The etymology is uncertain, but it is generally agreed that the primary idea is that of strength, power of effect , and that it properly describes God in that character in which he is exhibited to all men in his works, as the creator, sustainer and supreme governor of the world. The plural form of Elohim has given rise to much discussion. The fanciful idea that it referred to the trinity of persons in the Godhead hardly finds now a supporter among scholars. It is either what grammarians call the plural of majesty , or it denotes the fullness of divine strength, the sum of the powers displayed by God. Jehovah denotes specifically the one true God, whose people the Jews were, and who made them the guardians of his truth. The name is never applied to a false god, nor to any other being except one, the ANGEL-JEHOVAH who is thereby marked as one with God, and who appears again in the New Covenant as "God manifested in the flesh." Thus much is clear; but all else is beset with difficulties. At a time too early to be traced, the Jews abstained from pronouncing the name, for fear of its irreverent use. The custom is said to have been founded on a strained interpretation of (Leviticus 24:16) and the phrase there used, "THE NAME" (Shema ), is substituted by the rabbis for the unutterable word. In reading the Scriptures they substituted for it the word ADONAI (Lord ), from the translation of which by Kurios in the LXX., followed by the Vulgate, which uses Dominus , we have the LORD of our version. The substitution of the word Lord is most unhappy, for it in no way represents the meaning of the sacred name. The key to the meaning of the name is unquestionably given in God’s revelation of himself to Moses by the phrase "I AM THAT I AM," (Exodus 3:14; 6:3) We must connect the name Jehovah with the Hebrew substantive verb to be , with the inference that it expresses the essential, eternal, unchangeable being of Jehovah. But more, it is not the expression only, or chiefly, of an absolute truth: it is a practical revelation of God, in his essential, unchangeable relation to this chosen people, the basis of his covenant. [Smith's Bible Dictionary]

Sixth, Let’s reason on the significance of this scripture, “And he said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true, and the Lord, the God of prophetic spirit, sent his angel to show his servants what must happen soon.” [The New American Bible, world Catholic Press, approved at the Vatican by the Pope on Sept. 18, 1970]

Based on the proceeding examination, it appears this scripture shows that ‘the God of prophetic spirit’ who is obviously the Almighty God (YHWH) [per Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology Angel of the Lord [S], and Strong # and Smith's Bible Dictionary which shows God took on a special form as in “13 And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old? 14 Is any thing too hard for the LORD? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.” (Genesis 18:13-14 AV), and “ And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.” (Genesis 18:33 AV), Smith's Bible Dictionary], next, ‘sent his angel’ so since the God of prophetic spirit’ has been shown to be the God who created all the angels and to which they all belong, this must be his angel [“5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.” (Hebrews 1:7 AV), “ Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 18:10 AV),” 9 ¶ I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit [Almighty God, YHWH], whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.” (Daniel7:9-10 AV), “ But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,” (Hebrews 12:22 AV), even Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) clearly acknowledged who the angels belonged to “ Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?” (Matthew 26:53 AV), “4 ¶ Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” (Job 38:4-7 AV), they are subject to Almighty God (YHWH) and carry out as he directs, “ Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.” (Psalms 103:20 AV), “ Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.” (Psalms 148:2 AV), “ The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:” (Revelation 1:1 AV), they are the holy army of Almighty God (YHWH) “2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. 3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.” (Isaiah 6:2-3 Av), “1 ¶ The LORD reigneth; let the people tremble: he sitteth between the cherubims; let the earth be moved. 2 The LORD is great in Zion; and he is high above all the people.” Psalms 991 AV), acted as representatives of Almighty God (YHWH) 1 ¶ Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb. 2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. 3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. 4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. 5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. 6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.” (Exodus 3:1-6 AV), “12 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him, and said unto him, The LORD is with thee, thou mighty man of valour. 13 And Gideon said unto him, Oh my Lord, if the LORD be with us, why then is all this befallen us? and where be all his miracles which our fathers told us of, saying, Did not the LORD bring us up from Egypt? but now the LORD hath forsaken us, and delivered us into the hands of the Midianites. 14 And the LORD looked upon him, and said, Go in this thy might, and thou shalt save Israel from the hand of the Midianites: have not I sent thee? 15 And he said unto him, Oh my Lord, wherewith shall I save Israel? behold, my family is poor in Manasseh, and I am the least in my father’s house.
16 And the LORD said unto him, Surely I will be with thee, and thou shalt smite the Midianites as one man. 17 And he said unto him, If now I have found grace in thy sight, then shew me a sign that thou talkest with me. 18 Depart not hence, I pray thee, until I come unto thee, and bring forth my present, and set it before thee. And he said, I will tarry until thou come again. 19 And Gideon went in, and made ready a kid, and unleavened cakes of an ephah of flour: the flesh he put in a basket, and he put the broth in a pot, and brought it out unto him under the oak, and presented it. 20 And the angel of God said unto him, Take the flesh and the unleavened cakes, and lay them upon this rock, and pour out the broth. And he did so. 21 Then the angel of the LORD put forth the end of the staff that was in his hand, and touched the flesh and the unleavened cakes; and there rose up fire out of the rock, and consumed the flesh and the unleavened cakes. Then the angel of the LORD departed out of his sight. 22 And when Gideon perceived that he was an angel of the LORD, Gideon said, Alas, O Lord GOD! for because I have seen an angel of the LORD face to face.” (Judges 6:12-22 AV), they were his messengers “11 ¶ And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. 12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me. 13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. 14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen. 15 ¶ And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, 16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:” 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; “ (Genesis 22:11-17 AV), “ And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.” (Judges 2:1 AV), “ But the angel of the LORD said to Elijah the Tishbite, Arise, go up to meet the messengers of the king of Samaria, and say unto them, Is it not because there is not a God in Israel, that ye go to enquire of Baalzebub the god of Ekron?” (2 Kings 1:3 AV), In fact the only angels Jesus (Jeshua or YHWh saves) has are the ones his father gives/loans to him once more proving the subordination of the Son to the Father. “31 ¶ When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:” (Matthew 25:31-32 AV) and this is for a limited time only as “ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV), so all loaned angels revert back to the Father, Almighty God (YHWH).


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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON ROMANS 8:16:


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 837A]

What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Romans 8:31 – 32, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

This scripture that if Almighty God (YHWH) is with you is highlighted at Psalms 118:6, [AV] “The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?” And the fact that He provided His own son, Jesus (Yeshua) is testified to at many places in the scriptures, one notable place being John 3:16, [AV] “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Yes, He provided His son as a sacrifice to release all obedient mankind from inherited sin as testified to a Romans 3:25, [AV] “Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;” This clearly shows that the true God loves us as declared at Ephesians 2:4, [AV] “But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON ROMANS 8:16:

SCRIPTURE

“ The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:” (Romans 8:16 AV)

“The Spirit Himself testifies together with our spirit that we are God's children, “ (Romans 8:16 Holman Standard Christian Bible)
SCRIPTURE CROSS REFERENCE

First, let’s consider a scriptural cross reference on Romans 8:16:

The Spirit itself (a) beareth witness with our (b) spirit, that we are the children of God:

(a) “ I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,” (Romans 9:1 AV)

(b) “ The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.” (Zechariah 12:1 AV)
“ But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.” (Job 32:8 AV)
“ The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.” (Proverbs 20:27 AV)
“ God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24 AV)
“ And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Thessalonians 5:23 AV)
“ For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12 AV)
“ Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.” (Romans 1:19 AV)
“ In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,” (1 Corinthians 5:4 AV)
“ For they have refreshed my spirit and yours: therefore acknowledge ye them that are such.” (1 Corinthians 16:18 AV)
“ The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit. Grace be with you. Amen. <<The second epistle unto Timotheus, ordained the first bishop of the church of the Ephesians, was written from Rome, when Paul was brought before Nero the second time.>>” (2 Timothy 4:22 AV)
“ Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen. <<To the Galatians written from Rome.>>” (Galatians 6:18 AV)

(c) “ Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.” (Romans 8:21 AV)
“ But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:” (John 1:12 AV)
“ Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.” (1 John 3:1 AV)
“ That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.” (Romans 9:8 AV)

TECHNICAL DETAIL BY A TRANSLATION SCHOLAR

Now let’s see what Bible Scholar, Daniel B. Wallace says on this scripture:
The Witness of the Spirit in Romans 8:16: Interpretation and Implications
By Daniel B. Wallace, Ph.D.
Interpretation Romans 8:16 reads simply aujtoV toV pneu'ma summarturei' tw'/ pneuvmati hJmw'n o{ti ejsmeVn tevkna qeou'. There are two possible translations at the crucial juncture. Either “The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children,” or “The Spirit himself bears witness to our spirit that we are God’s children.”
Grammatically, the issue is simply this: Is tw'/ pneuvmati a dative of association (“with our spirit”) or a dative indirect object (“to our spirit”)? Exegetically and theologically, the issue may be far deeper: If a dative of association is in view, then our spirit joins God’s Spirit in bearing witness that we are God’s children, that we are saved. But to whom is this witness made? Many argue that such a witness is made to ourselves (thus, “the Spirit bears witness along with our spirit to us that we are God’s children”). On the other hand, some argue that such a witness is made to God. In this construct, there is no witness of God’s Spirit to us. Rather, both ‘spirits’ testify Godward; both are advocates of our status before the great Judge.
If, on the other hand, a dative indirect object is in view, then God’s Spirit is testifying to our spirits, that is, tous. In this case, believers are the recipients of the testimony of the Spirit.
The first view (what we’ll call the associative view) may imply that the Spirit has nothing to do with the believer’s assurance of salvation. This is especially the case if the witness is Godward. The second view (what we’ll call the indirect object view) certainly implies that the Spirit’s testimony to the believer is an important aspect of assurance. The first view allows one to claim assurance based directly on the objective data, the Word. The second view opens the doors to a soft mysticism, suggesting that though the Word is essential to assurance, God’s Spirit is also essential to offer such comfort.
A. Arguments for “with our spirit”
Scholars are divided on this issue—even evangelical scholars. However, it seems that the predominant view is the dative of association view (“with our spirit”). Most translations take this view. Thus, “with our spirit” is the reading of the AV, ASV, NASB, RSV, NRSV, JB, NJB, and Moffatt. It is also adopted by many commentators today such as Stifler, Hendrickson, Dunn, Fitzmyer, probably Moo, and possibly Stuhlmacher. Others, too, seem to be in favor of this view. Most recently, the associative view has been promoted by two Evangelical Theological Society members:
First, Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society takes the associative view. The very title of his paper that was to be delivered at the Evangelical Theological Society (November 1996) indicates his approach: “Does the Inner Witness of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 8:16) Play a Role in Assurance? No.” Although I’ve not yet seen his paper, I have talked with Dr. Wilkin about his view. He takes the approach that the witness of the Spirit is toward God. That is, God is the implied indirect object. If so, then neither the Holy Spirit nor our spirit is addressing us. The testimony offered is directed elsewhere.
Second, Gordon Fee, in his massive work, God’s Empowering Presence: The Holy Spirit in the Letters of Paul, adopts this view. He argues as follows:
To take the dative as an indirect object is an “unnecessary expedient that abandons Pauline usage for the sake of a prior theological concern that is not involved here.” He draws the negative conclusion that “This means that those who make much out of the concept of ‘the inner witness of the Spirit’ are probably also missing Paul’s point.”
The main arguments for the associative view are as follows:
1. In keeping with Deut 19:15, two witnesses are needed to establish the truth of a matter. Thus, the Holy Spirit and our spirit must give a combined testimony to confirm our salvation.
2. To argue that the Spirit bears witness to our spirits seems to presuppose that the moment of salvation is in view. But the present tense (summarturei') argues against this; this is an activity that is ongoing in the life of the believer. Hence, “to our spirit” cannot be the meaning of the text here.
3. The verb itself suggests an associative idea: it is marturevw prefixed by the preposition suvn. Such verbs regularly take datives of association.
B. Arguments for “to our spirit”
The indirect object view is not without its representatives. For the most part, English translations are against it, but other translations (such as the Vulgate and Luther’s Bible) are often for it. As well, several notable scholars have adopted this view, such as Luther, Calvin, Leenhardt, Godet, Hodge, Strathman (in TDNT), Morris, Murray, and Cranfield. The view is well represented, though more so among older, Reformed works than recent writers.
I think that this is the correct view. I wish to first interact with the arguments mentioned above; then, offer some further evidence on behalf of the indirect object position. The arguments are as follows.
(1) To see Deut 19:15 as part of the background of this verse is unnecessary. It seems to presuppose that the Spirit’s testimony is not good enough if offered by itself. This also presupposes that our testimony, in combination with the Spirit’s, is good enough! But elsewhere in the NT a single testimony is often acceptable, especially one offered by God. Indeed, the vast bulk of texts in which the Spirit bears witness rest the claim made on that witness alone; no other witness is necessary.
Further, if a second witness is sought in this text, there is a better candidate than our own spirits. Paul uses the verb marturevw only twice in Romans, only once before chapter eight. In what is his central passage on justification, 3:21-26, he notes that “the righteousness of God has been witnessed by the Law and the Prophets.” This righteousness is applied “to all who believe” (3:22). There, the justified state of the believer is witnessed by the Scriptures; here, it is witnessed by the Spirit. It is precisely this twofold testimony—that of the Spirit and the Word—offered at two key junctures in Romans, that constitutes the basis of the believer’s assurance.
But I don’t think that’s Paul’s point here. I don’t think that he’s looking back five chapters to find a second witness. Let me repeat: the necessity of having a second witness is based on two assumptions: (1) that summarturevw means bear witness together with and (2) that the Spirit’s testimony is inadequate to confirm the truth of our salvation. I think that the first of these assumptions is wrong, and the second is not in the picture here. But even if the first assumption is correct, this does not mean that “our spirit” needs to be that second witness.
(2) It is erecting a straw man to say that the indirect object view only applies to the moment of conversion. To be sure, it does apply to that moment. But it also applies later. We should give the present tense, summarturei', its full force. But as such, it is rather broad. The present tenses in this chapter that refer to the Spirit consistently are used of the entire time period from regeneration to glorification. Note for example:
• “But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Any one who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him” (v 9)
• “. . . the Spirit dwells in you” (v 11)
• “all who are being led by the Spirit, these are the sons of God” (v 14)
• “the Spirit helps us . . . the Spirit intercedes for the saints” (vv 26, 27)
It is self-evident from these verses that the Spirit’s inner witness is part of the process of sanctification and encompasses the time from the spiritual cradle to the physical grave. Is not his intercessory ministry true for our entire lives, from the time we were converted? Does he not dwell in us from day one?
(3) The lexical argument is the most compelling—namely, that suvn- prefixed verbs take datives of association. This is the view we all learn in first year Greek. But, as you well know, after a year of Greek all of us were dangerous! Our view of syntax needed some nuancing. There are four problems with this assumption.
First, even if a suvn- prefixed verb does take a dative of association, this does not mean that it cannot take an indirect object or some other dative use. In my Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament, I argue, “not every dative following a suvn- prefixed verb is a dative of association. . .” A doen exampples are supplied to demonstrate the point.
Second, a number of suvn- prefixed verbs have lost their associative force in Koine Greek. Sometimes the compound verb is weakened, becoming synonymous with the simple verb. At other times, the prepositional prefix functions much like other prepositional prefixes, viz., to intensify or strengthen the force of the verb. We are all well aware of examples such as katesqivw as an intensification of ejsqivw (“to eat” becomes “to devour”). This same kind of transformation occurs with suvn- prefixed verbs on occasion. Thus, for example suvmbainw means “happen to,” not “go with” as in “it has happened to them [sumbevbhken aujtoi'"] according to the true proverb, ‘a dog always returns to its vomit’“ (2 Pet 2:22).
Third, BAGD’s assessment of summarturevw is that it is an intensified verb. BAGD note that as early as the sixth century BC “the prefix sun- [on this verb] has in the highest degree the effect of strengthening” the force of the verb.
Fourth, although this particular verb occurs only three times in the NT (and not at all in the LXX), all of its occurrences are in Romans. (Remarkably, it is more frequent than marturevw in this book!) In its other two occurrences, it most likely has the force of intensifying the force of the verb; in the least, the evidence offers no comfort to the associative view. For example, Rom 9:1 reads, “My conscience bearing me witness [that] I am not lying” (or, “my conscience bearing witness to me [that] I am not lying”). Along these lines, for what it is worth, in my cursory examination of Hellenistic Greek, I have found summarturevw predominantly to take dative indirect objects rather than datives of association.
The lexical argument, then, though plausible on its face, seems to fall apart upon closer scrutiny. Along these lines, it may be noteworthy that Gordon Fee does not even raise the lexical issue, but prefers to argue against the indirect object view by insisting that it is only a theologically motivated interpretation without substance. Just the opposite seems to be the case. [excerpt from, http://www.bible.org/docs/soapbox/rom816.htm]

RENOWN BIBLE SCHOLARS TAKE ON ROMANS 8:16

One world renown Bible Scholar, Barton W. Johnson, stated:

16. The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. The Spirit of God is one witness to the fact. Our spirit is a corroborative witness. How do each bear witness? (1) Witness is usually borne in words, but not always. God's Spirit bears witness in words (see Heb. 10:15). The Holy Spirit shows us how we must become God's children, and how to continue the Christian life. (2) It bears testimony in our lives by its fruits. Do we bear the fruit of the Spirit? (See Gal. 5:22, 23). (3) Does our own spirit testify that we "mind the things of the Spirit?" Does our consciousness recognize its fruits, inward as well as outward? If the testimony of our spirit is that what God's Spirit witnesseth of the sons of God is true of us, then they concur in the testimony that we are the children of God.
[Johnson, Barton W. "Commentary on Romans 8". "People's New Testament". 1891.]

Renown Bible Scholar, David Brown, D.D., stated:

16. The Spirit itself--It should be "Himself"
beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children--"are children"
of God--The testimony of our own spirit is borne in that cry of conscious sonship, " “ Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” (Ecclesiastes 12:7 AV)

, yea, even in that very cry which it is His to draw forth, sets His own distinct seal to ours; and thus, "in the mouth of two witnesses" the thing is established. The apostle had before called us "sons of God," referring to our adoption; here the word changes to "children," referring to our new birth. The one expresses the dignity to which we are admitted; the other the new life which we receive. The latter is more suitable here; because a son by adoption might not be heir of the property, whereas a son by birth certainly is, and this is what the apostle is now coming to.
[Brown, David, D.D. "Commentary on Romans 8". "Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible". 1871.]

Renown Bible Scholar, John Wesley, stated:

The same Spirit beareth witness with our spirit - With the spirit of every true believer, by a testimony distinct from that of his own spirit, or the testimony of a good conscience. Happy they who enjoy this clear and constant.
[Wesley, John. "Commentary on Romans 8". "John Wesley's Explanatory Notes on the Whole Bible". 1765.]

CONCLUSION

As can readily be seen from the body of this Discourse on Romans 8:16, the Holy Spirit is God’s (YHWH’s) active force. As John Wesley made clear when he says, “the same Spirit beareth witness with our spirit” ; wherein we all know that are our active force “And as for me, here I am bringing the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens. Everything that is in the earth will expire.” (Genesis 6:17 NWT), “ All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils;” (Job 27:3 AV), “ For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.” (Ecclesiastes 3:19 AV), “ Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” (Ecclesiastes 12:7 AV), etc. clearly show there is one spirit or active force and it is from Almighty God (YHWH). This is made indisputable clear in by Job 27:3 and Ecclesiastes 3:19.

The other scholars also make this same fact clear, Barton W. Johnson stated, “The Spirit of God is one witness to the fact. Our spirit is a corroborative witness.” Again we all know that our spirit is our active force that God put in us when he, Almighty God (YHWH) breathed the breath of life into Adam in the Garden of Eden, “ And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7 AV). So now we can clearly see the Holy Spirit is God’s (YHWH’s) active force.


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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES


[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 838A]

Teach me thy way, O LORD, and lead me in a plain path, because of mine enemies. Psalms 27:11, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

The Prophet Jeremiah mentioned how conditions would be, and the need for qualified teachers at 1 Kings 8:36, [AV] “Then hear thou in heaven, and forgive the sin of thy servants, and of thy people Israel, that thou teach them the good way wherein they should walk, and give rain upon thy land, which thou hast given to thy people for an inheritance.” And,
Psalms 25:4, [AV] “Shew me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths.” Highlighted the need to be shown the ways of the Lord. But the Prophet Isaiah showed that all the obedient followers of Almighty God (YHWH) would be per Isaiah 54:13, [AV] “And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the, Eugenia neonitida


DETAILS:
Family: Myrtaceae
Pitangatuba
Origin: Brasil
Pitangatuba - native of Rio de Janeiro. It looks like a giant yellow cherry. The taste, however, is nothing bitter, and resembles that of Uvaia (Eugenia pyriformis). Great potential for pulp production, is much richer in vitamins and minerals than other cherries. Until recently is was almost unknown to the fruit growers. In its natural habitat, is a compact shrub, from 4 to 6 ft. Its trunk has a rough outer shell, it gives off in plates. The leaves are leathery, dark green on the upper surface and lighter on the bottom. The ribs are well printed on top. Very slow growing, but can be quick to flower. 2-3 year old plants can flower and fruit when barely a foot tall. Foliage and flowers have similarities to the Eugenia uniflora and the shrub makes an attractive ornamental.
Bright yellow fruit is oblong, 2-3" size, like a giant cherry, thick pulp, acidic and very juicy and aromatic. Flavor is pleasant, making it sweeter when grown in full sun.
Tolerant to salt wind conditions. Excellent container plant. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM https://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/eugenia_neonitida.htm ON 3 /17/2018]
Seeds can be obtained from Tradewind, and here is their catalog description, 3524 - Eugenia selloi - Pitangatuba
a.k.a. Eugenia neonitida. Very rare tropical fruit related to the surinam cherry. Bears yellow-orange fruits that are similar in basic appearance to the surinam cherry, but two times the size. Flavor is tasty, sour, with apricot overtones. Great for fresh eating and other uses. Small, bushy shrub to 1-2 m. Appears to be hardy to brief frosts. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/1/messages/42156 ON 3/17/2018]

Plants can be obtained from https://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/eugenia_neonitida.htm


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