Re: Scripture of the Day

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] MANY ASK, WHERE DID JESUS COME FROM:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 562A]

They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. 23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them. Isaiah 65:22 – 23, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Here the conditions that will exist under God’s Kingdom with His son, Jesus (Yeshua) as its king, are being spoken of. And it is made clear at this time the obedient ones will enjoy per Psalms 21:4, [AV] “He asked life of thee, and thou gavest it him, even length of days for ever and ever.” But to be counted worthy to be there we must per 1 Corinthians 15:58, [AV] “Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.” Yes all righteous ones that seek righteousness will per Isaiah 55:1, [AV] “Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.” And at this time, all will be per Isaiah 54:13, [AV] “And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.” Yes, He will provide for His elect per Matthew 24:31, [AV] “And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

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[2] MANY ASK, WHERE DID JESUS COME FROM:

INTRODUCTION:

The inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible, clearly shows that before coming to earth and being born to a Jewish girl that Jesus (Yeshua) lived in heaven with his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is. As Micah 5:2 puts it, "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). In fact, on many occasions, Jesus (Yeshua), said that he had lived in heaven before being born as a human such as at John 6:38 and 62, "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me." And "What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?" (AV); and John 17:4-5, "I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." (AV).

JESUS (YESHUA) IS THE TRUE GOD (YHWH) OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND ISHMAEL, CREATOR OF ALL THERE IS, MOST PRECIOUS SON:

Jesus (Yeshua) is the most precious only begotten Son of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is. He is called the first of God's creation at Colossians 1:15, "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" (AV). Now what makes this Son so special to the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is? Well John 3:16 explains, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (AV) that he was the only begotten or first of God's creation which is also testified to at Revelation 3:14, "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" (AV). In other words, Jesus (Yeshua) is the only being directly created by the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is. The true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, used him in the creation of all other things as testified to by Colossians 1:16, "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:" (AV); and Proverbs 8:21-31, "Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Before the earth was. 24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills was I brought forth; 26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, Nor the beginning of the dust of the world. 27 When he established the heavens, I was there: When he set a circle upon the face of the deep, 28 When he made firm the skies above, When the fountains of the deep became strong, 29 When he gave to the sea its bound, That the waters should not transgress his commandment, When he marked out the foundations of the earth; 30 Then I was by him, as a master workman; And I was daily his delight, Rejoicing always before him, 31 Rejoicing in his habitable earth; And my delight was with the sons of men." (American Standard Version; ASV). Also, Jesus (Yeshua) is referred to as the Word at John 1:14, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (AV). This shows that he was God's spokesman who delivered the messages and instructions to mankind from his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, to all his Father's other sons, both spirit and human.

IS THE FIRSTBORN OR CREATED EQUAL TO HIS FATHER?

Some mistakenly believe that the firstborn or created Son, Jesus (Yeshua), is equal to his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, but let's see if this is so. As previously noted, the Son, Jesus (Yeshua), was created; whereas, his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, had no beginning or end as testified to at Psalm 90:2, "Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." (ASV). Therefore, there is no way that the only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua) , could ever be equal to his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is. In fact, the Bible clearly shows that the Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, is greater than the Son, Jesus (Yeshua), at John 14:28 in Jesus (Yeshua) own words, "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (AV); and at 1 Corinthians 11:3, "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (AV). Therefore, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, alone is per Genesis 17:1, "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect." (AV). Thus he is without equal.

SON AND FATHER HAVE HAD A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP FOR EONS:

Of course, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, and his first born only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua), have enjoyed a close association for eons - long before the creation of the starry heavens and the earth. So, how they must dearly love each other as testified to at John 3:35, "The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand." (AV); and re-testified to at John 14:31, "But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence." (AV). Thus, this beloved Son, Jesus (Yeshua), was just like his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is. So the Bible refers to this Son, Jesus (Yeshua), as, per Colossians 1:15, "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible; DRCB). Yes, even as a human son may closely resemble his father in many ways, Jesus (Yeshua) closely resembles his Father with regard to his qualities and personality.

CONCLUSION:

The true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua), obediently left heaven to come down to earth to live as a human being. Now the question many may ask is how would it be possible for a spirit creature to be born as a human. Well, to accomplish this, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, transferred his life into the womb of a Jewish virgin named Mary. No human father was involved as testified to at Luke 1:30-35, "And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God. 31 And behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Most High: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 and he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. 34 And Mary said unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Most High shall overshadow thee: wherefore also the holy thing which is begotten shall be called the Son of God." (ASV).

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**Admin** Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:02 pm

COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] ISLAM SEEKS TO PROVOKE DO TO ITS EXTREME HATRED AND LUST FOR VIOLENCE:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 563A]

And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. Isaiah 65:21, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Indeed, Almighty God (YHWH) purposes for an eventual time under the reign of His son, Jesus (Yeshua) where evil will be eliminated and peaceful conditions will be the order of the day per Jeremiah 31:4, [AV] “Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.” Yes, His people will rebuild a righteous world to replace the evil one that will be destroyed and go out of business at the conclusion of the end times per Amos 9:14, [AV] “And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.” At this time per Isaiah 62:8, [AV] “The LORD hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:”

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[2] ISLAM SEEKS TO PROVOKE DO TO ITS EXTREME HATRED AND LUST FOR VIOLENCE:

Members of Islam have not changed in over 1,000 years. Now let's look at history berifely,
Most of Islam blames the apostate (counterfeit) Christians for the Crusades, but in reality Islam caused the Crusades which were the effect or result or consequences of a malicious wrong act by Fatimid Caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah. How so? Well simple, in 1009 this Caliph sacked the pilgrimage hospice in Jerusalem and destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. It was later rebuilt by the Byzantine emperor, but this event was remembered in Europe and was the spark or cause for the crusades.

And today they are still committing provocations and would probably try and lay the blame on others for the consequences of their own wrong doing just as the blamed the apostate (counterfeit) Roman Catholic Church for the Crusades over 1,000 years ago. However, I believe that Britain will not do what they should, i.e., immediately counter attack. Let's look at the latest provocation:

<<<By JIM KRANE, Associated Press Writer [23/03/2007]
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - Iranian naval vessels on Friday seized 15 British sailors and marines who had boarded a merchant ship in Iraqi waters of the Persian Gulf, British and U.S. officials said. Britain immediately protested the detentions, which come at a time of high tension between the West and

In London, the British government summoned the Iranian ambassador to the Foreign Office: "He was left in no doubt that we want them back," Britain's Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said after the meeting.
The U.S. Navy, which operates off the Iraqi coast along with British forces, said the British sailors appeared unharmed and that Iran's Revolutionary Guard naval forces were responsible.

Britain's Defense Ministry said the British Navy personnel were "engaged in routine boarding operations of merchant shipping in Iraqi territorial waters," and had completed a ship inspection when they were accosted by the Iranian vessels. The British sailors were assigned to a task force which protects Iraqi oil terminals and maintains security in Iraqi waters under authority of the U.N. Security Council.

"We are urgently pursuing this matter with the Iranian authorities at the highest level," the ministry said.

No one could be immediately reached for comment at either government offices in Iran or at the Iranian Embassy in Baghdad. An Iranian official at the U.N. mission in New York said he was not aware of the report and could not immediately comment.

The U.S. Navy said the incident occurred just outside a long-disputed waterway called the Shatt al-Arab dividing

Iraq and Iran. It came as the U.N. Security Council debates further sanctions against Iran over its disputed nuclear program, and amid U.S. allegations that Iran is arming Shiite militias in Iraq.
U.S. officials had expressed concern that with so much military hardware concentrated in the Persian Gulf, just such a small incident could spiral out of control and trigger a major armed confrontation.
White House press secretary Tony Snow said the Bush administration was monitoring the situation.

"The British government is demanding the immediate safe return of the people and equipment and we are keeping watch on the situation," Snow said.[[Should they not take stronger action as permitted under international piracy laws?]]

The United States, Britain's chief ally, has built up its naval forces in the Gulf in a show of strength directed at Iran. Two American carriers, including the USS John C. Stennis - backed by a strike group with more than 6,500 sailors and Marines and with additional minesweeping ships - arrived in the region in recent months.
Rhetoric between Western nations and Iran has escalated in recent months.

Earlier this week, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said if Western countries "want to treat us with threats and enforcement of coercion and violence, undoubtedly they must know that the Iranian nation and authorities will use all their capacities to strike enemies that attack."[[Now who is committing the acts of piracy and war - Iran.]]

Cmdr. Kevin Aandahl of the Fifth Fleet said the British crew members were intercepted by several larger patrol boats operated by Iranian sailors belonging to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy, a radical force that operates separately from the country's regular navy.
The Iranian boats normally carry bow-mounted machine guns, while the British boarding party carried only sidearms, Aandahl said. No shots were fired and there appeared to be no physical harm done to any personnel involved or their vessels, Aandahl said.>>>

The wrong action speaks for itself with respect who is trying to provoke whom and who is committing wicked acts of false imprisonment and Piracy.

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**Admin** Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:20 pm

COMBINATION OF THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES. With the Scripture of the Day first.

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 564A]

For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. Jeremiah 29:11, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

The above scripture refers to a time when the Hebrews were being obedient to the ways of Almighty God (YHWH), and clearly let it be known that He does not change per Psalms 33:11, [AV] “The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.” He, worked for His chosen people when they were being obedient as shown at Zephaniah 3:15, [AV] “The LORD hath taken away thy judgments, he hath cast out thine enemy: the king of Israel, even the LORD, is in the midst of thee: thou shalt not see evil any more.” And this is also testified to at
Jeremiah 31:17, [AV] “And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the Garcinia intermedia is a species of tropical American tree which produces tasty fruit. In English it is known as the lemon drop mangosteen (a name it shares with the closely related and similarly tasting Garcinia madruno). In Spanish it is called mameyito. In Portuguese it is called achachairu. The name achachairu is also applied to Garcinia humilis, another species native to Bolivia with larger, round or egg-shaped fruit(see Achachairu). G. humilis has been commercialized in Australia under the name Achacha.

Growth
The fast growing tree reaches a height of about 5 meters. It is tolerant of a wide range of soils, up to an altitude of around 4000 feet. It can be grown successfully and will fruit in a large pot. It grows best with regular water in full sun in a humid environment. It tolerates high temperatures but is probably not frost hardy. It has small, whitish flowers which are perfect and makes an attractive ornamental tree, especially when in truit, which may be year round. Its leaves are opposite.

The wood is termine resistant and used to make posts and tool handles.

Propagation
The tree is generally propagated from seeds, though it can be grafted. No named cultivars are known. Seeds lose viability if dried, but can retain viability for a period of months if kept moist.

Fruit
The tree may fruit after as little as two years. The fruits are smooth spheres about an inch in diameter with a thin yellow, orange or red rind around a white pulp. They are edible and have an appealing sweet and sour taste. It is usually eaten out of hand, though can be used for drinks, jams and jellies.[2]

Distribution
Native to Central America, it is cultivated sporadically throughout the tropics.[3]

References
1. Jump up^ "Taxon: Garcinia intermedia (Pittier) Hammel". Germplasm Resources Information Network (GRIN). United States Department of Agriculture, Agricultural Research Service, Beltsville Area. Retrieved 2010-06-12.
2. Jump up^ http://www.fruitipedia.com/lemon_drop_mangosteen%20Garcinia%20edulis.htm
3. Jump up^ http://www.montosogardens.com/garcinia_intermedia.htm [SOURCE - RETRIEVED FROM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garcinia_intermedia ON 8/5/2014]

In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

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**Admin** Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:05 pm

COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] REFORM NEEDED IN ISLAM PER AYAAN HISRI ALI:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 565A]

This is what Jehovah says, your Repurchaser, the Holy One of Israel: “I, Jehovah, am your God, The One teaching you to benefit yourself, The One guiding you in the way you should walk.Isaiah 48:17, [Revised New World Translation; rNWT]

He is our God, and we should give heed to His book of guidance for us per Isaiah 107:43, [American Standard Version: AVS] “Whoso is wise will give heed to these things; And they will consider the lovingkindnesses of Jehovah.” And we should make praise to him per Psalms 40:9, [AVS] “I have proclaimed glad tidings of righteousness in the great assembly; Lo, I will not refrain my lips, O Jehovah, thou knowest.” And as shown at
2 Peter 1:2, [authorized King James Bible; AV] “Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,” For only He can actually forsee many things that have not yet occurred as revealed at Isaiah 46:10, [AV] “Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:”

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[2] REFORM NEEDED IN ISLAM PER AYAAN HISRI ALI:

Author speaks out for reform of Islam, by Lona O'Connor.

<<<In her homeland of Somalia - where she can never safely return - Ayaan Hirsi Ali is considered a whore, and infidel, a traitor and a blasphemer.

None of that is surprising, considering that she has called the prophet Mohammed a pedophile for taking a child wife. Under threat of death since 2004, she continues to speak out for reform of Islam.

Ali, author of the memoir "Infidel," was in town Thursday to speak and sign books at several events....

Flying in the face of political correctness, she asserted that democracy and Islam are incompatible. Her audience of 800, ...

One of Ali's contentions is that Islam never encountered a Renissance, a Reformation or an Enlightenment, that Islam's moderates and reformers are two few, an endangered species.

All of this from a woman who was brought up in strict Muslim fashion in Somalia, was deprived of her clitoris at the age of 5 and fled a proper arranged marriage by emigrating to the Netherlands.

There, she collaborated with Theo Van Gogh on a short film, "Submission, that included images of semi-clad women with Quaranic verses inscribed on their flesh.

The film so enraged Muslim extremists that in 2004 one of them shot Van Gogh to death on an Amsterdam stree, then plunged a knife into his [own] chest, pinning a note that claimed Ali would be next. She since has been accompanied by scowling bodyguards....

"Islam today is not compatible with (democracy). Islam denies the separation of religion and political affairs."

Democracy will only have a chance in Islamic run countries when, 'faced with the choice between Quranic command and his conscience, a man can follow his conscience," she said.

Taskeen Naimat, striding out in a snappy...amazement and awe that Ali could speak so freely about things that in Naimat's home country of Pakistan few would dare to voice.[In Muslim countries no true freedom of religion].

"A Muslim would kill her with his own hands," said Naimat, a bank officer who moved here nine years ago, "She is so brave."

In Pakistan, a woman who has been raped needs two men to vouch that the crime occurred, she said.[Utter nonsense as rape is a crime that almost never occurs in public, but is best proven by DNA.]

"I am so glad I live in this country," she [Taskeen Naimat] said. [source - The Palm Beach Post, Friday, March 23, 2007, Page 5C]>>>

This quote from an article in a newspaper speaks for itself with regard to how Islam treats or should I more correctly say, mistreats women. However, many of them are two brainwashed to realize it.

Another article by "The New York Times" highlights the same truth, Islam does not treat women correctly.

<<<German judge's use of Quran riles many. She [the judge] cites a verse {Sura of Quran] that permits some beatings [of wife] in denying a divorce.

Frankfurt, Germany - a German judge has stirred a storm of protest by citing the Quran in turning down a German Muslim's request for a speedy divorce on the ground that her husband beat her.

In a ruling that underlines the tension between Muslim customs and European laws, the judge, Christa Datz-Winter, noted that the couple came from a Moroccan cultural milieu, in which it is common for husbands to beat their wives. The Quran, she wrote in her decision, sanctions such physical abuse.

News of the ruling brought swift and sharp condemnation from politicians, legarl experts and Muslim leaders in Germany, many of whom said they were confounded that a German judge would put seventh-century Islamic religious teachings ahead of German law in deciding a case of domestic violence.[Admittance this is part of Quaranic teachings].

The court in Frankfurt abruptly removed Datz-Winter from the case on Wednesday, saying it could not justify her reasoning. The woman's lawyer, Barbara Becker-rojczyk, said she decided to publicize the ruling, which was issued in January, after the court refused her request for a new judge.

"It was terrible for my client," Becker-Rojczyk said, "This man beat her seriously from the beginning of their marriage. After they separated, he called her and threatened to kill her."...

While the verse Datz-Winter cited does say husbands may beat their wives for being disobedient - an interpretation embraced by Wahhabi and other fundamentalist Islamic groups - mainstream Muslims long have rejected wife-beating as a medieval relic.[Clearly admitting they did it in medieval times even though it is completely wrong.]...[source - "The New York Times," and "The Palm Beach Post, Friday, March 23, 2007, page 22A].

Again, the article says it all. This quote from an article in a newspaper speaks for itself with regard to how Islam treats or should I more correctly say, mistreats women. However, many of them are two brainwashed to realize it.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] MAKING THE WRONG ASSUMPTION WITH REGARD GOD'S (YHWH) NAME:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 566A]

Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; Hebrews 6:19, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

It is imperative that we draw close to Almighty God (YHWH) and let His active force work on us per Acts 10:45, [AV] “And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.” And as shown at Acts 15:8, [AV] “This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.” Most are NOT stedfast to Him. But He will work miracles toward the steadfast per Hebrews 2:4, [AV] “God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?”

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[2] MAKING THE WRONG ASSUMPTION WITH REGARD GOD'S (YHWH) NAME:

Some make an assumption which is not reasonable with respect the name of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, and Jacob, creator of all there is. Since the apostles were quoting Old Testament which even some making this false assumption admit contained "YHWH" at these places. One such individual said,
<<<" The name is used in a few Bibles in the NT either in its English forum or as the Tetragrammaton.

I am NOT asking about the use of "YHWH" in English translations of the Bible. I am asking about the use of "YHWH" in the Greek.

If I recall correctly Jesus Himself quoted an Old Testament Scripture that uses the term "YHWH" - in the Hebrew. Quoting David, Jesus said " 'The Lord said to my Lord.......'" Now in the Hebrew Old Testament "YHWH" is used in the first instance; while "ADONAI" is used in the second; in the GREEK New Testament the term "kurios" is used in both instances. The Greek text makes NO distinction between "YHWH" and "ADONAI".

Thus the apostles, by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, made NO distinction btween "YHWH" and "ADONAI". Why not?">>>

Let's look at the facts:

First, <<<" "...the most common "error" made by most translators in the last 3500 years...is their elimination of heaven's revealed Name of the Most High, Yahweh(Jehovah)" -[source - quoted from - A. B. Traina; in the Preface of the Holy Name Bible].

Second, <<<"THE REASON GOD'S NAME IS MISSING FROM MANY BIBLES
"...the distinctive Hebrew name for God - usually transliterated Jehovah, is in this translation
represented by "LORD." - Today's English Version (preface). There are many different reasons why God's name was removed from the Bible. I will attempt to briefly discuss them here.
First off, it was a MISTAKE to remove God's Name from the bible. WHY ?

As Author of the Bible, Only God himself has the right to change or alter the Bible. God himself
gave mankind a warning - in his own Word - The Bible; to NOT add to - NOR take away from his Words. "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life." (Revelation 22:18,19)(NIV)-BibleGateway

- A MISTAKE - "...the suppression of The Name (Jehovah) has entailed upon the reader,
and especially upon the hearer, irreparable loss... its suppression was a MISTAKE..."
--Rotherham, 1, Ch. IV, 22-29 "...the most common "ERROR" made by most translators in the last 3500 years...is their elimination of heaven's revealed Name of the Most High, Yahweh (Jehovah)" - A. B. Traina; in the Preface of the Holy Name Bible "The substitution of the word "Lord" is most unhappy; for...it in NO WAY represents the meaning of the sacred name (Jehovah)..." - The 1872 edition of Smith's Bible Dictionary THE BASIC REASONS THAT TRANSLATORS REMOVED GOD'S NAME FROM THE BIBLE :

1. Anti-Semitic Feelings
The Jewish God of the Jewish Messiah was hated and despised by the Greeks and Romans.
When Christianity became a State Religion of Rome - All attempts to blot out the Hebrew origins of Jesus were employed - and Removing God's Name from the Bible was a major attempt to obscure Jesus' Jewish heritage. "Well, be assured that the God that the Jews worship - is the very same God that we worship. Their sacred writings, the Law and the Prophets, we revere and read aloud in our meetings. And because we worship this God of the Jews, the one thing we cannot be accused of is novelty." --Glimpses Issue #139 : Why Early Christians Were So Despised; Ken Curtis PH.D., Beth Jacobson, Diana Severance Ph.D., Ann T. Snyder and Dan Graves. (c)2003, by Christian History Institute. "The Octavius of Minicius Felix" ; 2nd century A.D.

2. Support of Trinitarian Doctrine When Rome voted to adopt the Trinity doctrine of
the numerous Pagans in her empire - The Name of God - YHWH (translated Jehovah in English) - interfered and hindered the Newly Adopted teaching That Jesus was the Almighty God - Jehovah. Rome paid her translators to remove God's name almost Seven Thousand Times (7,000) from the Bible. "In the first two centuries nearly all the various readings of the New Testament came into existence, the majority of them by deliberate alteration of the text...in the
interests of (the trinity) dogma..." -the Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics; The Bible in the Church "Codex B (Vaticanus)...was altered by a later hand in more than two thousand places. Eusebius, therefore, is not without grounds for accusing the adherents of....the newly-risen doctrine of the trinity of falsifying the Bible..." -(Fraternal Visitor 1924, p. 148;
translated from Christadelphian Monatshefte). "The removal of the Tetragrammaton (Jehovah)
from the New Testament and its replacement with the surrogates KYRIOS and THEOS blurred
the original distinction between the Lord God and the Lord Christ, and in many passages
made it impossible which one was meant. As time went on...it was often impossible to distinguish between them. Thus it may be that the removal of the Tetragrammaton (Jehovah)
contributed significantly to the later...Trinity " - George Howard, Bible Scholar ;
The Name of God in the New Testament, BAR 4.1 (March 1978), pg 15`
"It was they who demanded, in effect, that Christianity be "updated" by blurring
or even obliterating the long-accepted distinction between the Father and the Son."
- When Jesus Became God by Richard E. Rubenstein, p.74

3. MONEY
Because the God of Christ - The Jewish God, Jehovah, was not popular with the world of mankind, they sought to remove him from their Bibles. Bible translators knew that for their Bibles to be purchased they would need to appeal to their readers. They also knew, that if they used God's Divine Name Jehovah, then people would not purchase their Version and thus
they would lose money. God's name Jehovah/Yahowah appears in the original hebrew
text about 7000 times, but the NIV fails to mention it even once. When asked about this, Edwin H. Palmer, Th.D., Executive Secretary for the NIV's committee wrote : "Here is why we did not : You are right - that Jehovah is a distinctive name for God and ideally we should have
used it. But we put 2 1/4 million dollars into this translation and a sure way of throwing that
down the drain is to translate, for example, Psalm 23 as, 'Yahweh (Jehovah) is my shepherd.'
Immediately, we would have translated for nothing. Nobody would have used it (or purchased it). Oh, maybe you and a handful [of] others. But a Christian has to be also wise and practical. We are the victims of 350 years of the King James tradition. It is far better to get two million to read it- that is how many have bought it to date- and to follow the King James, than to have two thousand buy it and have the correct translation of Yahweh(Jehovah)
. . . It was a hard decision, and many of our translators agree with you." - The Reason NIV removed Jehovah's Name Edwin H. Palmer, Th.D., Executive Secretary for the NIV's committee

"The situation today, where many translations... exists largely because of the amount of money
to be gained..." -(The Preservation of the Bible By Faithful Churches) --By Charles V. Turner

4. MAN MADE "TRADITION"
It was a tradition of the Jews to avoid using God's name altogether. They stopped all mention of him. No longer using God's Divine Name, they no longer used it in their prayers, even making it a sin to say his name out loud. They considered it "blasphemy" to utter the name of God, ehovah. Many translators admit to following this "Jewish Tradition" and have thus removed Jehovah's name and replaced it with Titles such as "LORD" and "GOD" - all in capitals - to show that they have removed God's name in those places. Jesus condemned the man-made tradition of the Jews.
Following their lead in this - would be directly against Jesus' Teachings on this issue. "...Yahweh (Jehovah), is the proper personal name of the God of Israel...the term Adonai, 'My Lord' was later used as a SUBSTITUTE. The word LORD in the present version represents
the TRADITIONAL usage." - New American Bible (Catholic) Introduction to the O. T., Page XI. "In this translation we have followed the orthodox Jewish TRADITION and substituted 'the Lord' for the name 'Yahweh' (Jehovah)" -- Preface - 1935 Bible ; J. M. Powis Smith and Edgar J. Goodspeed, "Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? ...Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. "
(Matthew 15:3,6)(NIV)-BibleGateway

5. SUPERSTITION
During the time when Israel was in slavery to Babylon, she absorbed and adopted many Babylonian customs and ideas. One of these was the "Superstition" against using the name of a God - for fear that bad things would happen to them. As the Babylonians called their Chief
God - Marduk by the title "LORD" so as not to offend him, so too - the Jews adopted this idea in reference to Jehovah God. "When the Yisraeli (Israelites) came out of Babylonian captivity, they brought along with them the Babylonian culture, and along with it Babylonian beliefs and
superstitions. One of these pagan Babylonian practices or beliefs was called "ineffability." This was the SUPERSTITION against using the name of a deity for fear of something bad happening to them. The idea was that if you said the name of a deity he or she would notice you. The pagan practice of ineffability was further reinforced by Greek Hellenization." -(b.Pes. 50a) (b.Kidd. 71a). "The avoidance of the original name of God (Yehowah) both in speech and, to a certain extent, in the Bible.....first arose.....in Babylonia. According to Dalman (l.c. pp. 66 et seq.)," -The Jewish Encyclopedia TETRAGRAMMATON; by Crawford Howell Toy, and Ludwig Blau

"The idea that only the priest could utter The NAME of The HEAVENLY FATHER, and that he was to disguise or hide it from the common people, came from the idea that the NAME was "ineffable" or "unutterable". However this was a pagan doctrine that they adopted from the Egyptians, Babylonians, and the Greeks..." -THE FINAL REFORMATION; KOSTER P.54, P112

Marduk was, therefore, a very important god of Babylon. In the first millennium BCE, his name was considered so holy, that it was almost never pronounced; instead, people said and wrote Bêl, 'LORD'. Herodotus correctly calls the supreme god of Babylon Bêl ("lord"), because his real name was not pronounced. -[Herodotus, Histories 1.181-2; tr. Aubrey de Sélincourt]. "The ineffability of divine names was on old idea in Egypt... the name of Osiris himself was said to be ineffable...the name Marduk of Babylon was also declared ineffable. The Greeks avoided the names of their deities and preferred to call them by the titles Kurios and Theos." -The Final Reformation By Dr. Koster; pp. 54 and 112 "...But at least by the third century B.C.E. the pronunciation of the name YHWH (Jehovah) was avoided, and Adonai, "the Lord," was substituted for it..." - Encyclopedia Judaica (p. 679). "The Hebrews considered The Name of God to be 'ineffable' and substituted in reading Adonai (My Lord)." -Columbia Encyclopedia Vol. 2 under the subject 'God'

6. "JEHOVAH" IS NOT THE HEBREW WAY TO SAY GOD'S NAME
Some Bible Translators say that they have removed God's name from the Bible - because Jehovah is not
the proper way to say God's name in Hebrew. This reasoning is merely an excuse and not a reason
at all. For if this reason was valid, then we would also have to remove Jesus name from the Bible,
since the name "Jesus" is not the way that it was written or spoken in Hebrew either. Many Hebrew
names are written in the Bible - which are not as they were in Hebrew and yet we do not remove them.
Therefore this reasoning is truly invalid. Examples of Jewish names in the Bible which are translated
into English - much differently than their original Hebrew couterparts - are : Jesus, Jeremiah, Jonah,
Joel, Jerusalem, Joshua, etc. "... the Committee... is, omitting the name of God (because) the word 'Jehovah' does not accurately represent any form of the Name ever used in Hebrew..." - The Preface of the Revised Standard Version

Thus, the Hebrew "ye-ru-sha-LA-yim" became "Jerusalem"; "ye-ri-HO" became Jericho; and "yar-DEN" become "Jordan". Hebrew personal names such as "yo-NA" became "Jonah", "yi-SHAI" became "Jesse" and "ye-SHU-a" became "Jesus". Likewise "YHWH, Yahweh, or Yehowah" became "Jehovah" in english.

7. GOD DOESN'T NEED A NAME
God does not need to be distinguished from other gods. Some translators have made this statement. Who are we to say that God doesn't need a name ? God deemed it necessary to name all the stars in the heavens, and to place his name upon people that he liked, and upon places that were important to him. His own word the Bible - emphasizes the importance of a name. The translators of the Bible did not remove Satan's name from the Bible - nor did they remove the names of numerous false gods from the Bible.
"the use of any proper name for the one and only God... is entirely inappropriate for the universal faith of the Christian Church." -the preface of the Revised Standard Version; Under reasons (excuses) for the removal of God's personal name - Jehovah "He determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name." (Psalms 147:4)(NIV)-BibleGateway, "Lift up your eyes on high, and see who hath created these, that bringeth out their host by number; he calleth them all by name... The everlasting God, Jehovah, the Creator of the ends of the earth..." (Isaiah 40:26,28)(ASV)-BibleGateway "A good name is more desirable than great riches; to be esteemed is better than silver or gold." (Proverbs 22:1)(NIV)-BibleGateway, "A good name is better than oil of much worth..." (Ecclesiastes 7:1)(NLV)-BibleGateway

"...The Sacred Name Yahovah was revealed to man by Yahovah Himself and is not a man-given name" -(see II Apol., 10, 13; Trypho, 126, 127). In the Bible, refusing to mention the name of a god
means refusing to worship this god (Ex 23:13) and that is why Satan incited the Israelites,
by means of the prophets of Baal, not to use the Name of Jehovah (Jr 23:27). "Yahweh (Jehovah) is the name that indicates the God of the Hebrews. Where the Philistines worshipped Dagon, the Egyptians, Amon, and the Ammonites, Milcom, the Hebrews worshipped YAHWEH (Jehovah). The title 'god' (elohim) is ALSO applied to false deities in the Scriptures as well as Yahweh (Jehovah), hence is NOT a term by which one can be distinguished from the others. When the voice said, 'I am Yahweh (Jehovah),' there was no doubt in any listener's mind as to the identity of the speaker. He was the God of the Hebrews. So far as is known, no other peoples called their god by this name." - Review and Herald, December 16, 1971

"In the Scriptures there is the closest possible relationship between a person and his name, the two being practically equivalent, so that to remove the name is to extinguish the person. (Num. 27:4; Deut. 7:24)
To forget God's name is to depart from Him." -Zondervan Pictorial Bible Dictionary, p. 571 (1964)[source -http://www.xanga.com/item.aspx?user=RemovingGodsName&tab=weblogs&uid=329800252 ]

[[Special notes and sources of additional information:
"non-superstitious Jewish translators always favored the name Jehovah in their translations of the Bible.
On the other hand one can note that there is NO Jewish translation of the Bible with Yahweh." To go more indepth on this, check out the works of Dr. Gerard Gertoux, one of the greatest living Hebrew scholars, and President of the French Bible Society. (Association Biblique de Recherche d'Anciens Manuscrits). He has written several books on the subject. For a quick abstract of his latest book, go to,

On the Name of the True God of Abraham [By Gérard Gertoux, President of the French Bible Society] at,

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] TETRAGRAMMATON USE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT - DATA:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 567A]

A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones. Proverbs 17:22, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, this is a contrast between the fruits of a merry heart and a broken spirit, and this contrast is pointed to also at Proverbs 12:25, [AV] “Heaviness in the heart of man maketh it stoop: but a good word maketh it glad.” And again at Proverbs 15:13, [AV] “A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.” But a broken spirits result is spoken to at Psalms 22:15, [AV] “My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.”

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[2] TETRAGRAMMATON USE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT - DATA:

Most New Testaments do no contain the Tetragrammaton, but Matthew 6:9, "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name." (Authorized King James Bible; AV) clearly shows his name as represented by "YHWH", called the Tetragrammaton belongs there.

Now let's look at some information with regard this fact.

FIRST, <<<"Tetragrammaton in the New Testament :[Note ?? marks appear where foreign alphabet characters appeared in quoted test.]
Archaeologists have discovered papyrus fragments of the New Testament dating as far back as the middle of the second century. Of all 5,000 extant manuscripts, none contains either the Hebrew (????) or Greek transliterations (?aß?) of the Hebrew name ????. One of the most ancient fragments, the papyrus codex designated Chester Beatty Papyrus No. 2 P46, is dated prior to AD 200 and contains nine of the apostle Paul's letters. In the Chester Beatty papyri, we find ?S and sometimes TS with a horizontal bar above them where the tetragrammaton occurs in the Hebrew text. These are abbreviations for kurios (?????? "lord") and theos (?e?? "god"). Some scholars think that these abbreviations were not part of the autographs and thus were added some time later,[1] concluding that YHWH did indeed occur in the NT.[2]
An article by George Howard in the March 1978 issue of Biblical Archaeology Review set forth a theory that YHWH appeared in the New Testament and that "the removal of the Tetragrammaton from the New Testament and its replacement with the surrogates kyrios and theos blurred the original distinction between the Lord God and the Lord Christ."[3]

YHWH and the Septuagint
The Greek Old Testament that Early Christianity used (as opposed to other Greek Old Testaments) is known as the Septuagint (q.v.). Christ and the Apostles quoted extensively from it.[4]
In the Middle Ages when St. Jerome, a Roman Catholic classicist, began his translation of the Old Testament into Latin, he switched from using the ancient Septuagint as his source to the then new Masoretic texts.[5] Jerome was the first to translate from a Masoretic Old Testament and brought YHWH for the first time into texts officially adopted by the Western Church. This use of the Masoretic did not affect the Eastern Churches and the bulk of the late Roman Empire's population, who spoke Greek.
Jesus quoted numerous times from the Old Testament, including his replies to the tempter: "Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God" (Matt. 4:7, KJV). Here as elsewhere, he quotes from the Greek Septuagint.[6][7]
The New Testament overwhelmingly quotes the ancient Septuagint, not Medieval Masoretic versions.[8] Complete copies of the Septuagint do not contain the word YHWH;[9] however, older fragments do contain YHWH. [10] It is also noteworthy that in the P. Ryl. 458 (perhaps the oldest extant Septuagint manuscript) there are blank spaces, leading some scholars to believe that the tetragrammaton must have been written where these breaks or blank spaces are.[11]
In addition to older fragments containing YHWH, a transliterated Hebrew word, "Hallelujah" includes the abbreviation of the Divine Name and appears four times in the 19th chapter of the Book of Revelation. In addition, names such as Jesus mean "YHWH is Salvation"; John, "YHWH has been gracious".[12] appear frequently in the New Testament.
Professor George Howard, of the University of Georgia, theorizes: "When the Septuagint which the New Testament church used and quoted contained the Hebrew form of the divine name, the New Testament writers no doubt included the Tetragrammaton in their quotations."[13] Thus some contemporary publishers of modern versions of the New Testament insert the word "Jehovah" in place of the Greek manuscript wording.[citation needed] In one of these (the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, published by the Jehovah's Witnesses), the name "Jehovah" is inserted 237 times.[14] They believe that when the NT writers quoted the Greek Septuagint or quoted the Hebrew text, where the Tetragrammaton appeared, they would have been obliged to include the Tetragrammaton. In this regard, some have charged the New World Translation Committee (NWTC) with not be consistent.[15] However, Rolf Furuli stated that there never was a rule to always use "Jehovah" since the NWTC clearly indicates other factors must be consider too. [16] A literal translation of ?e?? would be "God", and of ??????, "Lord".

Other Greek Old Testaments
In regard to the Septuagint, some rudimentary mistakes are made by confusing it with several other Greek versions of the Old Testament. Inherent in such error is the assumption that all Greek versions of the Old Testament were the Septuagint. This is not the case.
Origen categorized at least seven different Greek versions of varying quality: the versions of Aquila, Theodotion, Symmachus, and lesser versions that he labeled the Quinta, Sexta and Septima. Origen compiled his Hexapla (and Tetrapla) as a reference for Christians debating the Old Testament with ancient Jews.[17] The Hexapla is almost completely lost, and these other versions exist only in small fragments, mostly from the Hexapla. A few more of these fragments have also been discovered in Qumran, and two of these fragments from unidentified Greek versions have YHWH in Semitic script written or inserted afterwards. The Qumran manuscripts were those kept by a small sect of Jewish separatists known as the Essenes.
Since the church of New Testament times as well as mainstream Jews used the Septuagint, and since it is well established that the New Testament quotes the Septuagint extensively (and apparently exclusively), the other texts may not be relevant to the text of the New Testament, and texts used by the Essenes are less so. As noted in the beginning of this article, manuscripts and textual analysis of the Septuagint are extensive. The same applies to the New Testament.

References
1. ^ G.D. Kilpatrick Etudes de Papyrologie Tome Neuvieme, Le Caire, Imprimiere de L'Institut Francais d' Archaeologie Orientale 1971 p. 221,222
2. ^ The Anchor Bible Dictionary 1992 "Names of God in the OT, Yahweh (deity)
3. ^ The Name of God in the New Testament BAR 4.1 March 1978 15.
4. ^ Jones.
5. ^ Jones. "The Septuagint in Early Christian Writings"
6. ^ Lee, Randy and Richard Anthony, Devoted to Truth - Answers to Questions about the Word of God, "Comparisons between the Bible and the Septuagint."
7. ^ Jones. "Occasions where the Septuagint is quoted in the New Testament against the sense of the Hebrew text."
8. ^ Jones, R. Grant, Ed. Various Religious Topics, "Occasions where the Septuagint is quoted in the New Testament against the sense of the Hebrew text."
9. ^ Brenton, Sir Lancelot Charles Lee, Trans. The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English, Facs, Hendrickson. (London: Samuel Bagster & Sons, 1851).
10. ^ The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology Volume 2, page 512
11. ^ Paul Kahle, The Cairo Geniza (Oxford:Basil Blackwell,1959) p. 222
12. ^ The New Compact Bible Dictionary Edited by Alton Bryant
13. ^ (Biblical Archaeology Review, March 1978, page 14)
14. ^ BeDuhn, Jason D., Truth in Translation - Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament, p 169.
15. ^ Eg. In the book, "The Jehovah's Witnesses' New Testament" by Robert Countess, He states that they are only 95 percent consistent in its renderings of kurios p.34
16. ^ In the book The Role of Theology and Bias in Bible Translation by [Rolf Furuli], He states that " the immediate context is the final criterion for what words should be used....[and the] truth is, the NWT translators time and again appeal to the context." pg. 97
17. ^ Maas, A.J. Catholic Encyclopedia, "Versions of the Bible."

See also
* Koine Greek, the language of the New Testament and the Septuagint.
* YHWH, a Hebrew name for God that appears in the Masoretic Old Testament.
* Jehovah, a common English vocalization of Hebrew YHWH.
* Iaoue, the ancient Greek rendering of YHWH.
* Yaw, an article that discusses some linguistic theories involving YHWH.
* Jehovah's Witnesses, a religion that teaches that YHWH was written in the original New Testament.

External links
* Greek text - Complete Greek text of the Septuagint hyperlinked to Strong's concordance.
* Brenton's - The standard English translation of the Septuagint (hard copy has Greek in column)
* The New Testament and the Septuagint - Instances where the New Testament quotes the LXX against the Masoretic Hebrew
* The New Testament and the Hebrew OT - Instances where the New Testament agrees with the Masoretic Hebrew meaning
* Names in the Septuagint and Masoretic - A table of the older Greek names with the newer Masoretic renditions, in the Old Testament
* The Septuagint Online - Comprehensive site with scholarly discussion and extensive links to texts and translations
* Versions of the Bible - Thorough entry on versions of the Bible in the Catholic Encyclopedia.
* [jehovah.125mb.com] - Discusses the divine name in the New Testament, Bible issues, history ot the divine name.
* The Tetragrammaton and the Christian Greek Scriptures - an online book criticizing the view that the Tetragrammaton appeared in the original New Testament text.
[source - Wikipedia, http://www.answers.com/topic/tetragrammaton-in-the-new-testament ]>>>

SECOND, Some modern Bibles using "YHWH" the Tetragrammaton in the New Testament:

* Bibelarchiv Vegelahn New window
A very consciencious collection by Karlo Vegelahn of German Bible translations with a special focus on their use of the Divine Name. Many illustrations. Well done Brother!
in Research Translations & Translators > About Translations > German Translations with german jehovah yhwh
www.bibelarchiv-vegelahn.de/
* New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures New window
One of the very best study Bibles.
in Online Bible Translations > Online reading with bible english jehovah nwt yhwh www.watchtower.org/bible/index.htm
* Updated Bible Version (UPDV) New window
The UPDV Bible is based on the American Standard Version of 1901 (ASV). The ASV was used as the starting point for this Bible. However, a significant amount of new research is now available regarding ancient manuscripts (such as the Dead Sea Scrolls) and word meanings. This has been integrated into ...morethe UPDV Bible to improve accuracy. For this reason, the following authoritative texts were used for further refinement of the translation: Old Testament: Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia; United Bible Societies' Preliminary and Interim Report on the Hebrew Old Testament Text Project; and the final report in Critique Textuelle De L'Ancien Testament. New Testament (Greek): United Bible Societies--The Greek New Testament, Fourth Edition; and Nestle-Aland--
in Online Bible Translations > Online reading with asv bible english yahweh yhwh by 2 users
www.updated.org/

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The UPDV in the StudyLight format.
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THIRD, A letter on the subject by one of the world renown scholars on the subject, Rolf Furuli of the University of Oslo:

<<<" Dear Jan, The main point of your conclusion needs some elucidation. The word "Jews" is associated with the OT and the word "Christians" with the NT. It may not have been your intention, but the contrast you make between the two groups could lead the reader to conclude there is evidence that, at the time the NT was written the Hebrew letters of the tetragrammaton was no longer understood, and therefore the Christian NT writers used the substitute KURIOS. But such evidence is lacking! For the designations Jews/Christians to be meaningful to the reader, it is necessary to supply dates. As Greg has pointed out, all LXX manuscripts until 50 CE contained the tetragrammaton in some form; the form IAW which is found, even shows that it was pronunciated, because it is a phonetic transcription. The Christian manuscripts that have the Nomina sacra (KS with a bar above for KURIOS) instead of the tetragrammaton, were written about 150 CE. So there is no manuscript evidence before 150 CE that YHWH were substituted by KURIOS. When Jews and Christians are contrasted, we should keep in mind that all the NT writers were Jews who were followers of Jesus, and three points should be noted: 1) It cannot be demonstrated by manuscript finds or other finds that the pronunciation of YHWH had ceased in the days of Jesus, although some people at Qumran used a substitute. (The evidence for a substitution at Qumran is not unambiguous. For instance, 4Q408, which is dated to Hasmonean times (from the middle of the second century BCE), has the tetragrammaton in Aramaic script several times. Discoveries in the Judean Desert XXXVI, Comran Cave IV XXVI,2000, Oxford: Clarendon Press. Other older manuscripts use EL as a substitute for YHWH) 2) The NT writers spoke Hebrew or Aramaic where ADONAI and MARE/MARI (I do not use standard transcription which can be misunderstood on a Greek list) are the words that naturally would be translated by the Greek KURIOS. But neither ADONAI nor MARE/MARI are used as substitutes for YHWH at Qumran, but the substitute is EL. If the NT writers used KURIOS as a substitute for YHWH, they must have invented this practice themselves, because there is no evidence for a Hebrew or Aramaic antecedent, but why should they? NB, The Creator is called both YHWH and ADONAI in the Hebrew Bible, but ADONAI is not a *substitute* for YHWH. The word ADONAI is used only 83 times in non-biblical manuscripts at Qumran while EL is used 677 times. In the manuscript mentioned above, both ADONAI and YHWH are used for the Creator without one being a substitute for the other. 3) There is quite a lot of circumstansial evidence suggesting that the tetragrammaton occurred in the original NT. Elswhere I have argued for this at length, but I will supply one piece of evidence that the KURIOS in NT manuscripts after 150 CE, has different Hebrew antecedents. Compare John 21;7 "It is the Lord (KURIOS)." with Luke 1:46 "My soul magnifies the Lord (KURIOS). Which words did John and Mary use? In no case could John have used ADONAI, because that was a title (but not a substitute) for YHWH. But he evidently used another word. If the custom not to pronounce YHWH already was introduced, (which is completely without evidence), and Mary followed it, she could have used EL (as at Qumran) or ADONAI (although evidence for it being a substitute for YHWH is lacking). In any case John and Mary used two different words which manuscripts from 150 CE and younger translate as KURIOS. Because there are other Greek words in the semantic domain "Lord", the use of just one (KURIOS) for two different Hebrew words, could lead us to ask about the originality of KURIOS in the NT, because of all the confusion this creates. There is in fact circumstansial evidence suggesting the KURIOS in the NT in many instances is a *later* substitute for YHWH, while a form of YHWH occurred in the original manuscripts. As to the Christian origin of KURIOS as a substitute for YHWH, let me add that evidence in Syrohexapla and other Syriac manuscrips suggest that the tetragrammaton originally occurred in Syriac translations, and these manuscripts were made by Christians. Regards Rolf ">>>

FOURTH, <<<"Worldwide Assembly of YHWH By Robert J. Thiel
The Worldwide Assembly of YHWH (WAY) is a Houston, Texas based 'sacred name' group. Other than its emphasis on the specific name of the Father and the Son, their other basic beliefs appear to be consistent with most of the Churches of God. This article will quote some of WAY's statements (all taken from its website on 2/22/01) and then provide my comments, in italics, after them.
"Purpose Statement
To help all who truly want to: A. Seek YHWH's Kingdom (Matthew 6:33 - But seek you first the kingdom of YHWH, and his righteousness)" (WAY's first purpose statement).
This is fairly typical of 'sacred names' groups. They quote the New Testament as if it were written in Hebrew, instead of Greek. Actually, if you accept that the New Testament was written in Greek, then all the arguments of these types of groups are meaningless as God did not use much Hebrew in the New Testament. For what its worth, about 24 years ago I read a booklet from another 'sacred name' group which attempted to prove that the New Testament was written in Hebrew--suffice it to say that I did not believe the group was able to prove its point--as far as I (and 99+% of all scholars) can determine, the New Testament was written in Greek.
"Our beliefs are that there is only one Creator and his name is YHWH...Why use the name "YHWH" as oppose to the more commonly used name "GOD"? Would you believe that the name "GOD" is of pagan origin? As shocking as that statement is it is true and I challenge you to go down to your local library and do some research. Ask to see the Dictionary of Etymology the origins of American English words. Look up the word "GOD". You will see that the word "GOD" is not of English origin but comes from the Germanic tribe. Before the Germanic tribe converted to christianity they used this name for their pagan deity. How many times have we seen compromises made to bring non-believers into christianity?" (WAY's home page).
The term 'Lord' is used extensively in the New Testament. Its origins may be Babylonian. God apparently felt it was fine to inspire the writers of the New Testament to use that and other non-Hebrew names for deity. It should also be noted that the term 'christianity' has Greek as its origin.
"The appropriate name of the supreme Creator and sustainer of the entire universe is YHWH (Pronounced "YAH-WAY"). The appropriate name of our Savior the Messiah is Yahshua. The scriptures reveal to us the importance of our Creator's name." (WAY home page).
Sacred name groups always claim to know exactly how to pronounce the four Hebrew letters (which in English are approximated as YHWH) which have no vowels. These groups often do not agree with each other. The other group I looked into years ago said the proper pronounciation was Yah-vay. WAY is different from most in that it does not agree within itself on either name. The next statement is one found on WAY's website the same day I copied the previous statement:

"STATEMENT OF BELIEFS

1. APPROPRIATE NAMES The appropriate name of the supreme creator and sustainer of the entire universe is YHWH (Pronounced "YAHWEH"). The appropriate name of our Savior the Messiah is Yahùshua. The scriptures reveal to us the importance of our creator's name." (WAY's statement of beliefs). [source - Worldwide Assembly of YHWH By Robert J. Thiel]

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Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. 6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. Philippians 4:5 – 6, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

James, the brother of Jesus (Yeshua) wrote under inspiration at James 3:17, [AV] “But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.” And as stated at James 5:8, [AV] “Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.” Jesus (Yeshua) said to his disciples at
Luke 12:22, [AV] “And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on.” Yes, if we lack wisdom, it is stated at James 1:5, [AV] “If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.” Truly, per Psalms 145:18, [AV] “The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth.”

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[2] GOD'S ESSENCE CAN NOT CHANGE - TRINITY IMPOSSIBLE:

INTRODUCTION:

The true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, has always existed, he had no beginning and will have no end. For untold eons he existed all alone until he started to create. When he started to create, his first creation was another spirit being, that we now call Jesus (Yeshua), and then the two of them created everything else that now exist - the angels, the universe, the earth, mankind, etc. Jesus (Yeshua) was not a co-creator, but his Father's, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, master worker, as shown at Proverbs 8:22-31, "Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Before the earth was. 24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills was I brought forth; 26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, Nor the beginning of the dust of the world. 27 When he established the heavens, I was there: When he set a circle upon the face of the deep, 28 When he made firm the skies above, When the fountains of the deep became strong, 29 When he gave to the sea its bound, That the waters should not transgress his commandment, When he marked out the foundations of the earth30 Then I was by him, as a master workman; And I was daily his delight, Rejoicing always before him, 31 Rejoicing in his habitable earth; And my delight was with the sons of men. ;" (American Standard Version; ASV); and that Jesus (Yeshua) is the first of creation is shown at Revelation 3:14, "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God:" (ASV).

TRUTH OF GOD'S (YHWH) ESSENCE DENIED BY MANY:

Many today deny the true essence of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, and try and make him into a "three-in-one-god" composed of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael; creator of all there is, his only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua); and the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael's, creator of all there is, active force or Holy Spirit. But this is just a lie spread by the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael's, creator of all there is, arch enemy, Satan the Devil, per 2 Corinthians 4:4, "in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn upon them." (ASV).

Now let's look at each part of this lie spread by Satan the Devil using human stogies.

First, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, has always existed and had no beginning and the Bible speaks of his at Revelation 21:5-7 as the Alpha and Omega, "And he that sitteth on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he saith, Write: for these words are faithful and true. 6 And he said unto me, They are come to pass. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit these things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." (ASV).

This scripture causes confusion for some who are attempting to justify false doctrine of various creeds. They do not fully comprehend that Alpha is the first letter of the Koine Greek alphabet and that Omega is the last letter of the Koine Greek alphabet and take this to be a title for Jesus (Yeshua) which the verse in context clearly shows that it is not. In reality, the person referring to himself as the first and the last, the Alpha and Omega, in Revelation 21:6 is the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Father, of Jesus (Yeshua). How so?

Verse 7 clearly says, "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." (Authorized King James Bible; AV); and Revelation 21:3-5 clearly show that the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, is being referred to as follows, "And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (AV).

Matthew Poole, said,
<<<" Ver. 6. And he said unto me, It is done; the world is at an end, and all my threatenings against my enemies, and promises to my people, are now fulfilled, in the eternal d**nation of the one, and deliverance and salvation of the other.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end: I first made the world, and I have put a period to it. I first gave out those promises and threatenings, and I have now fulfilled them.

I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely; and my people who have thirsted after my righteousness and salvation, now have it freely, and shall drink, and drink abundantly." [source - Matthew Poole's Commentary]>>>.

The fact of who is being spoken of in Verse 6 is highlighted by what Jesus (Yeshua) said at Matthew 4:9-10, "And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (AV), and Jesus (Yeshua) testifies to the fact that he was sent by his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, at John 17:17-21, "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." (AV). Clearly showing that he was sent by his Father and spoke his words to the people. This fact being made certain at Hebrews 11:3, "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." (AV); and Ephesians 6:17, "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" (AV).

And a reference Bible dictionary says, <<<"
*** it-1 80-1 Alpha and Omega ***
These are the names of the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet and are used as a title three times in the book of Revelation. The additional occurrence of this phrase in the King James rendering of Revelation 1:11, however, does not receive support from some of the oldest Greek manuscripts, including the Alexandrine, Sinaitic, and Codex Ephraemi rescriptus. It is, therefore, omitted in many modern translations.

While many commentators apply this title both to God and to Christ, a more careful examination of its use restricts its application to Jehovah God. The first verse of Revelation shows that the revelation was given originally by God and through Jesus Christ, hence the one speaking (through an angelic representative) at times is God himself, and at other times it is Christ Jesus. (Re 22:8) Thus Revelation 1:8 (RS) says: "'I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God ["Jehovah God," NW], who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Although the preceding verse speaks of Christ Jesus, it is clear that in verse 8 the application of the title is to "the Almighty" God. In this regard Barnes' Notes on the New Testament (1974) observes: "It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer meant to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically here . . . There is no real incongruity in supposing, also, that the writer here meant to refer to God as such."
The title occurs again at Revelation 21:6, and the following verse identifies the speaker by saying: "Anyone conquering will inherit these things, and I shall be his God and he will be my son." Inasmuch as Jesus referred to those who are joint heirs with him in his Kingdom as "brothers," not "sons," the speaker must be Jesus' heavenly Father, Jehovah God.-Mt 25:40; compare Heb 2:10-12...

The title "the Alpha and the Omega" carries the same thought as "the first and the last" and "the beginning and the end" when these terms are used with reference to Jehovah. Before him there was no Almighty God, and there will be none after him. He will bring to a successful conclusion the issue over Godship, forever vindicated as the one and only Almighty God.-Compare Isa 44:6." [source - Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. I]>>>

Second, Now Jesus (Yeshua) is the first of the creative works of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, and therefore is called his only begotten Son. Why is Jesus (Yeshua) called the only begotten Son of God (YHWH) when in reality there are many sons of God (YHWH)? John 1:14 states, "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth." (ASV); And at John 3:16-18, " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God sent not the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through him. 18 He that believeth on him is not judged: he that believeth not hath been judged already, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God." (ASV); And at 1 John 4:9, "Herein was the love of God manifested in us, that God hath sent his only begotten Son into the world that we might live through him." (ASV); now this does not mean that the other created spirit beings were not also God's (YHWH's) sons, as they are also called sons as affirmed at Genesis 6:2, "that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all that they chose." (ASV); And at job 1:6, "Now it came to pass on the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Jehovah, that Satan also came among them" (ASV); And at Job 38:4-7, "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon were the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone thereof, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?" (ASV); And at Job 2:1, "Again it came to pass on the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Jehovah, that Satan came also among them to present himself before Jehovah." (ASV). So what makes Jesus (Yeshua) unique?

He is unique by virtue of his being the only direct creation by Almighty God (YHWH), thus making him different from all others of God's (YHWH's) sons, allof whom were created or begotten by god (YHWH) through that firstborn Son, Jesus (Yeshua). Therefore, Jesus was God's (YHWH) 'only-begotten Son' in a very special sense just as Isaac was Abraham's 'only-begotten son' in a special sense even though he already had a son, Ishamel, but not by his wife Sarah as testified to at Hebrews 11:17, "By faith Abraham, being tried, offered up Isaac: yea, he that had gladly received the promises was offering up his only begotten [son];" (ASV); And at Genesis 16:15, "And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bare, Ishmael." (ASV).

Of course some will say begotten does not mean create, but they never quantify what it means. They have to consider the facts which are (1) the Bible says at Revelation 3:14, "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God:" (ASV); (2) the meaning of the word create which is "To cause to come into existence; originate" [Funk & Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary, ISBN #s 0-308-10309-2 and 0-308-10310-6, and most other standard English dictionaries]; (3) That humans create by means of copulation as did Abraham in the creation or begetting of his son, Isaac, as shown in Hebrews 11:17 and Genesis 16:15, quoted previously; whereas, the Bible makes no mention of a Mrs. God (YHWH). Therefore, God (YHWH) creates differently, obviously, from man. He always existed as shown at Psalms 90:2, "Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. " (ASV); And at Psalms 93:2, "Thy throne is established of old: Thou art from everlasting." (ASV); and at Job 36:26, "Behold, God is great, and we know him not; The number of his years is unsearchable." (ASV); And at 1 Timothy 1:17, "Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, [be] honor and glory forever and ever. Amen." (ASV). Of course another way of looking at the verb beget is to look at its synonyms and its definition which are (1) To procreate; be the father of. (2) To cause to be; occasion [Funk & Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary, ISBN #s 0-308-10309-2 and 0-308-10310-6, and most other standard English dictionaries]. Now that makes it clear one of its meanings is to cause to be same as for create. If that is not clear enough for some, let's consider the definition of its synonym as given above, procreate which means by definition (1) To engender or beget (offspring), (2) To originate; produce; and at its ethnology from Latin, [- before + creare to create> ] which leaves no doubt that it means to create as does the other synonym, engender which by definition means (1) To cause to exist; give rise to; produce. (2) beget, (3) To come into being; and its ethnology from Latin [- in + genus, generis race] [Funk & Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary, ISBN #s 0-308-10309-2 and 0-308-10310-6, and most other standard English dictionaries].

Of course some critics say that having been created makes Jesus (Yeshua) inferior, but the Bible shows the exact opposite at Philippians 2:1-11, "If there is therefore any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassions, 2 make full my joy, that ye be of the same mind, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind; 3 [doing] nothing through faction or through vainglory, but in lowliness of mind each counting other better than himself; 4 not looking each of you to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others. 5 Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men; 8 and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient [even] unto death, yea, the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore also God highly exalted him, and gave unto him the name which is above every name; 10 that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven and [things] on earth and [things] under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (ASV). Obviously all thinking people should believe the Bible and not accept the opinions of man.

Third, With respect to the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael's, creator of all there is, force or power which we call his Holy Spirit and many wrongly believe is a third spirit being, we need to look at the word in ancient Hebrew from which it was translated to get an accurate understanding. Now let's consider just what this Spirit is. Now what is this Spirit or Holy Spirit that John the Baptist mentioned at John 1:32, ""And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the holy Ghost." (AV)? The Holy Spirit is only God's (YHWH's) active force and not even a spirit being or person. This is clearly shown at Pentecost where the Holy Spirit was poured out onto all there, Acts 2:1-4, "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance." (AV). This entire scripture bespeaks of a force and not a being as you do not get filled with a being! And this fact is reaffirmed at Acts 4:31, ""And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spoke the word of God with boldness." (AV); And 2 Corinthians 1:21-22, "Now he which established us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; 22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts." (AV), surely a being would not be in our hearts as that is ludicrous, thus this scripture talks of God's (YHWH's) active force; This is clearly shown at Luke 11:13, "If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" (AV). Once more, why? Why? Do many say they are coequal and coeternal when clearly they are not and the Holy Ghost is just God's (YHWH's) active force? Only to try to give some resemblance of reality to a myth as we shall later see. An interesting note on the Spirit is that the neuter Greek word for spirit (pneu'ma) is used, the neuter pronoun "it" is properly employed. This fact is conveniently over looked or hidden by most Trinitarian translators as admitted in the "New American Bible Catholic Bible," regarding John 14:17: "The Greek word for 'Spirit' is neuter, and while we use personal pronouns in English ('he,' 'his,' 'him'), most Greek MSS [manuscripts] employ 'it.'" So when the Bible uses masculine personal pronouns in connection with pa•ra'kle•tos at John 16:7, 8, it is conforming to rules of grammar, not expressing a doctrine. And in Ancient Hebrew the word here rendered Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, or Spirit which is translated from 'ru'ach' meaning "breath; wind; spirit." In Latin, it is spiritus, and in Sanskrit, 'prana' which means both "breath" and "spirit"

So it is clear that the Spirit is not a being but is God's (YHWH's) active force which he gives to both his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) and to his followers that he gave to him. This is made even clearer at 1 Corinthians 12:13, "For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit. And Hebrews 2:4 clearly reveals it as from him, "God also bearing witness with them, both by signs and wonders, and by manifold powers, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to his own will." (ASV); And affirmed at 2 Peter 1:21, "For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but men spake from God, being moved by the Holy Spirit." (ASV). Interestingly many ancient manuscripts with respect part of 1 Corinthians 12:4-11, in part read as follows, "Vulgate, Syriac, and Coptic [all important ancient manuscripts] read, "(the Lord God of the) spirits (of the prophets)." The Lord God who with His Spirit inspired their spirits so as to be able to prophesy. There is but one Spirit, but individual prophets, according to the measure given them " Thus it is obvious that the Spirit or Holy Spirit is God's (YHWH's) active force or power which he 'pours' out to his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) and to the faithful followers as necessary to get his will accomplished.

GOD'S (YHWH'S) ESSENCE:

First, let's consider what essence is through use of Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary [ISBN 0-87779349-2].

Essence = (b) the individual, real, or ultimate nature of a thing esp. as opposed to its existence.

Essentially the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, is the Supreme Being that has always existed - had no beginning - and caused all else that now exist to exist. He is the Alpha and Omega as shown by Revelation 21:5-7 as the Alpha and Omega, "And he that sitteth on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he saith, Write: for these words are faithful and true. 6 And he said unto me, They are come to pass. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit these things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." (ASV).

How so? Let's check an encyclopedia, <<<" Alpha and Omega (Gr. "ôï 'Áëöá êáé ôï Ù") is an appellation of God in the book of Revelation (verses 1:8, 21:6, and 22:13). Its meaning is found in the fact that Alpha(Á) and Omega(Ù) are respectively the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. This would be similar to referring to someone in English as "the A to Z". Thus, twice when the title appears it is further clarified with the additional title "the Beginning and the End" (21:6, 22:13).

Revelation 1: 11 in the King James Version says, "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last." This verse clearly proves an undisputed reference to Jesus as the "Alpha and Omega". However, this additional occurrence of this phrase does not receive support from some of the oldest Greek manuscripts, including the Alexandrine, Sinaitic, and Codex Ephraemi rescriptus. It is, therefore, believed to be spurious like the Comma Johanneum and thus is omitted in many modern translations. Scholar Robert Young stated, that the "oldest MSS. omit" it.

Though many commentators and dictionaries apply this title both to God and to Christ such need not be the case. [2] Barnes' Notes on the New Testament (1974) observes: "It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer meant to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically here . . . There is no real incongruity in supposing, also, that the writer here meant to refer to God as such."[[And the evidence in the scriptures support the latter.]][source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]>>>.

However, most Christian denominations teach that it does apply to Jesus and God so as to support their false creedal doctrines, but this is very wrong as it only applies to the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is. Its use with respect to Jesus (Yeshua) or any other is just false doctrine. Why is this done by many creeds? Let's consider Ephesians 2:1-3, "And you did he make alive, when ye were dead through your trespasses and sins, 2 wherein ye once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the powers of the air, of the spirit that now worketh in the sons of disobedience; 3 among whom we also all once lived in the lust of our flesh, doing the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest:--" (ASV) which shows it is because they walk according to the course of this world which James 4:4 warns against, "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." (AV).

Now should one be surprized by this? No, Trinitarians and other believers in false doctrines have even tried to corrupt the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible in violation of Revelation 22:18-19, "I, bear witness, unto every one that heareth the words of the prophecy of this scroll:--If anyone shall lay aught upon them, God, will lay upon him, the plagues which are written in this scroll; 19 And, if anyone shall take away from the words of this prophetic scroll, God, will take away his part,--from the tree of life, and out of the holy city,--from the things written in this scroll." (Rotherham Bible of 1902; RB) to support their un-scriptual false true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, dishonoring creedal doctrine that came from Satan per 2 Corinthians 4:4, "In whom, the god of this age, hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, to the end they may not discern the radiance of the glad-message of the glory of the Christ--who is the image of God." (RB).

Let's look at an actual well known example of their attempt to corrupt the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible, to support their false doctrines and to change the essence of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is. This example is the well known illegitimate addition to the Bible known as the Johanna Comma:

1 John 5:7 and 8

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one (KJV).

1. Some English versions have a shorter rendition of 1 John 5:7 and 8 than the KJV quoted above. The King James Version has words that support the Trinity that most modern versions do not have. How can this be? The reason that there are different translations of this verse is that some Greek texts contain an addition that was not original, and that addition was placed into some English versions, such as the KJV (the words added to some Greek texts are underlined in the quotation above). The note in the NIV Study Bible, which is well known for its ardent belief in the Trinity, says, "The addition is not found in any Greek manuscript or NT translation prior to the 16th century."

Most modern versions are translated from Greek texts without the addition. We will quote the NIV: "For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement." We agree with the textual scholars and conclude from the evidence of the Greek texts that the statement that the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit are "one" was added to the Word of God by men, and thus has no weight of truth.

There are many Trinitarian scholars who freely admit that the Greek text from which the KJV is translated was adjusted in this verse to support the Trinity. The Greek scholar A. T. Robertson, author of the unparalleled work, A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in Light of Historical Research, and the multi-volumed Word Pictures in the New Testament, writes:

At this point [1 John 5:7] the Latin Vulgate gives the words in the Textus Receptus, found in no Greek MS. save two late cursives (162 in the Vatican Library of the fifteenth century, [No.] 34 of the sixteenth century in Trinity College, Dublin). Jerome did not have it. Erasmus did not have it in his first edition, but rashly offered to insert it if a single Greek MS. had it, and 34 was produced with the insertion, as if made to order. Some Latin scribe caught up Cyprian's exegesis and wrote it on the margin of his text, and so it got into the Vulgate and finally into the Textus Receptus by the stupidity of Erasmus."42

Robertson shows how this addition entered the text. It was a marginal note. Since all texts were hand-copied, when a scribe, copying a text, accidentally left a word or sentence out of his copy, he would place it in the margin in hopes that the next scribe would copy it back into the text. Unfortunately, scribes occasionally did not make the distinction between what a previous scribe had left out of the last copy and wrote in the margin, and marginal notes that another scribe had written in the margin to help him understand the text. Therefore, some marginal notes got copied into the text as Scripture. Usually these additions are easy to spot because the "new" text will differ from all the other texts. However, there are times when people adore their theology more than the God-breathed original, and they fight for the man-made addition as if it were the original words of God. This has been the case with 1 John 5:7 and 8, and we applaud the honesty of the translators of modern versions who have left it out of their translations.

The famous textual scholar, F. F. Bruce, does not even mention the addition in his commentary on 1 John (The Epistles of John). The International Critical Commentary does not mention it either. The conservative commentator R. C. H. Lenski, in his 12 volume commentary on the New Testament, only mentions that it is proper to leave the addition out. He writes: "The R. V. [Revised Version] is right in not even noting in the margin the interpolation found in the A.V. [KJV]." Henry Alford, author of the The Greek Testament, a Greek New Testament with extensive critical notes and commentary, writes:

...OMITTED BY ALL GREEK MANUSCRIPTS previous to the beginning of the 16th century;

ALL the GREEK FATHERS (even when producing texts in support of the doctrine of the Holy Trinity: as e.g., by [abbreviated names of Church "fathers"] Clem Iren Hipp Dion Ath Did Bas Naz Nys Ephih Caes Chr Procl Andr Damasc (EC Thl Euthym);

ALL THE ANCIENT VERSIONS (including the Vulgate (as it came from Jerome, see below) and (though interpolated in the modern editions, the Syriac;

AND MANY LATIN FATHERS (viz. Novat Hil Lucif Ambr Faustin Leo Jer Aug Hesych Bede) [Emphasis his].43

2. With the spurious addition gone, it is clear that there is no reference to the Trinity in 1 John 5:7 and 8. The context is speaking of believing that Jesus is the Son of God (v. 5 and 10). There are three that testify that Jesus is the Son of God: the spirit that Jesus received at his baptism, the water of his baptism and the blood that he shed.

Scripture says, "We accept man's testimony, but God's testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God which He has given about his Son" (v. 9). This verse is so true! How often people accept man's testimony and believe what men say, but do not believe what God says. We need to accept the testimony of God that He has given about His Son, and agree with the testimony of the spirit, the water and the blood, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Farley, pp. 28-33

Morgridge, pp. 70-87

Sir Isaac Newton, "An Historical Account of Two Notable Corruptions of Scripture," reprinted in 1841 (John Green, 121 Newgate Street, London), pp. 1-58.

Norton, pp. 185 and 186

Racovian Catechism, pp. 39-42

Snedeker, pp. 118-120 [source - Bible Unitarians - Scholars]

I hope this gives you the facts and you realize this scripture as given in some Bibles is spurious.">>>.

CONCLUSION:

Speaks for itself the wicked measures that believers in false doctrines and the wrong essence of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, will go to support their false creedal doctrines. But that is why the Apostle Paul wrote as a warning what he did at 2 Corinthians 4:2-4, "but we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by the manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled in them that perish: 4 in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn upon them." (ASV).

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COMBINATION OF THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES. With the Scripture of the Day first.

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 569A]

And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. Revelation 7:13 – 17, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, the Apostle John in vision saw per Revelation 7:9, [AV] “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;” This is to occur at the culmination of the end times or great tribulation per Matthew 24:21, [AV] “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” And as recorded at 1 John 1:7, [AV] “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” Yes, in vision the Apostle John per Revelation 4:2, [AV] “And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.” He heard as recorded at Revelation 21:3, [AV] “And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.” Per Revelation 22:17, [AV] “And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the Genipapo /Genip/Genipa americana

The Hair Dye You Can Eat
Huito fruit grows across the Caribbean and all the way down to Peru. When ripe, it’s popular as a flavor for preserves and ice cream, but when it’s still green the geniposidic acid it contains makes a tenacious dye when it oxidizes, dyeing anything it touches a rich blue-black. It’s popular for both temporary tattoos and hair color, and it makes a gentle alternative to henna or indigo. So if you’re looking for lush black hair color without chemical dyes, pop by your specialty grocery and see if they have any Huito. If you can’t find the fruit but want to try the dye anyway, you can also buy huito extract (it’s sometimes also called jagua) in many health food stores.
The genipap is native to wet or moist areas of Cuba, Hispaniola, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and from Guadeloupe to Trinidad; also from southern Mexico to Panama, and from Colombia and Venezuela to Peru, Bolivia and Argentina. Its usefulness to the Indians was reported by several European writers in Brazil in the 16th Century. It is widely cultivated in dooryards as an ornamental tree and for its fruits, but Patiño stated in 1967 that it was no longer as commonly grown in the Cauca Valley of Colombia as it had been in the past. The tree first fruited in the Philippines in 1913 and is occasionally planted there. Otherwise, it is virtually unknown in the Old World. Burkill wrote that it had been tried in the southern part of the Malay Peninsula several times but without success. It is reported in Brazil that there are varieties that bear all year. There is a shrubby form, jenipaporana, or jenipapo-bravo, no more than 10 to 13 ft (3-4 m) high, that grows in swamps along the edges of rivers and lakes in Brazil. The fruit is small and inedible.
Genipap is a small to medium-sized tropical tree. It is 8 to 20 m tall, but specimens of up to 30 meters are also found. The diameter of the trunk is 30 to 80 cm and it has thick, smooth bark. It has a dense crown and the lower branches grow more or less horizontal, with 10 to 35 cm leaves at the ends. In most of Amazon Basin the trees flower in May to September and give fruit between September and April. It takes up to one year for the fruits to mature. In most trees, bees pollinate the flowers. Its fruit is a large, rounded berry, which is 9 to 15 cm long, 7 to 9 cm wide, weighing between 200 and 400 g. It has a thin and leathery covering and a 1 to 2 cm thick layer of soft, yellow-brown pulp. The central cavity contains up to 300 seeds, enclosed in membranes. The fruit is edible only when overripe and soft to the touch, when the flavor (acid to subacid) resembles that of dried apples or quinces.

In Puerto Rico, the fruit is cut up and put in a pitcher of water with sugar added to make a summer drink like lemonade. Sometimes it is allowed to ferment slightly. A bottled concentrate is served with shaved ice by street vendors. In the Philippines, also, the fruit is used to make cool drinks, as well as jelly, sherbet and ice cream. The flesh is sometimes added as a substitute for commercial pectin to aid the jelling of low-pectin fruit juices. Rural Brazilians prepare sweet preserves, sirup, a soft drink, genipapada, wine, and a potent liqueur from the fruits. Analyses made in the Philippines many years ago show the following values for the edible portion (70%) of the fruit: protein, 0.51%; carbohydrates, 11.21%; sugar, 4.30%; ash, 0.20%; malic acid, 0.63%.
The fruit is eaten as a remedy for jaundice in El Salvador. Ingested in quantity, it is said to act as a vermifuge. The fruit juice is given as a diuretic. It is a common practice in Puerto Rico to cut up the fruits, steep them in water until there is a little fermentation, then add flavoring and drink the infusion as a cold remedy. The crushed green fruit and the bark decoction are applied on venereal sores and pharyngitis. The root decoction is a strong purgative. The seeds are crushed and added to water and taken as an emetic in Brazil. When cut, the bark exudes a whitish, sweetish gum which is diluted and used as an eyewash and is claimed to alleviate corneal opacities. The juice expressed from the leaves is commonly given as a febrifuge in Central America. The flower decoction is taken as a tonic and febrifuge.

Pepperidge Farm, which, for seven years, had used artificial colorants in its colored goldfish, switched to natural dyes in July 2010. The colored goldfish are now brightened with Huito juice concentrate, annatto extract, beet juice concentrate, paprika extract, paprika, turmeric extract, and watermelon juice concentrate, instead of blue 2, red 40, red 3 and blue 1. (There is a banner on the new bags with “Colors From Natural Ingredients” written.) [sourc - retrieved from https://zoom50.wordpress.com/ on 8/11/2015]

In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] ALL GENUINE (TRUE) FOLLOWERS OF JESUS (YESHUA) CHRIST RECEIVE PERSECUTION:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 570A]

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Revelation 4:11, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Almighty God (YHWH) was the creator of all there is including his first born, Jesus (Yeshua), and as shown at Matthew 5:16, [AV] “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” All honor and worship should be given to Him per 1 Timothy 1:17, [AV] “Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.” This, per Revelation 5:13, [AV] “And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.” Will be made known to all. He has no beginning, but created all else that exist as testified to at Revelation 10:6, [AV] “And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:” Yes, His kingdom when established on earth will rule forever per Matthew 6:10, [AV] “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.”

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[2] ALL GENUINE (TRUE) FOLLOWERS OF JESUS (YESHUA) CHRIST RECEIVE PERSECUTION:

2 Timothy 3:12 clearly shows that all genuine (true) followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ will be persecuted, "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution." (Authorized King James Bible; AV); and John 15:20-21 clearly testifies to the same, "Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me." (AV); and Matthew 10:22 also testifies to this fact, "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." (AV).

Of course persecution takes many forms including verbal and written abuse as shown by Acts 19:9, "But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus." (AV); and 2 Chronicales 36:16, "But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy." (AV); and Matthew 5:11-12, "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you." (AV); and 1 Peter 4:4, "Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:" (AV).

Let's look at some examples of written/spoken persecution:

First It is un-Christian to make lying attacks and insults against others such as,

[1] You never knew Jesus either.

Which is both a lie and un-Christian.

[2] Only because you are a personal attack on Christ Jesus.

Which is both a lie and un-Christian.

[3] Are you just trying to see how many times you can post the same messaage on multiple boards? Are you going for a new world record at rule-breaking?

An outright lie as I posted new information each time with respect 1 John 5:7 a scripture that believers in false doctrines have tried to corrupt to support their false the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, dishonoring false creedal beliefs. As I said before, on this thread,

Some so called Christians are acting as bad or worse that infidel Muslims whose Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) of some members of Islam of putting out half-truths and outright lies rather than facing up to reality, the truth, per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

As is easy to see, that this person is a personal attack on a genuine (true) follower of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ - some so called Christians. Reminds me of Matthew 7:23, "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

Let's look at some of the facts to see the truth of what I just said:

Now who instigates this persecution of genuine (true) followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ? Revelation 12:17 clearly shows that it is none other than Satan the Devil, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (AV); and testified to at 1 Peter 5:8-9, "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world." (AV); and all genuine (true) followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ are told at Ephesians 6:11 to, "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." (AV).

Now whom does Satan the Devil use as his chief human instigators of persecution against genuine (true) followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ? Simple, he uses the promoters of false religion as testified to at John 11:47-48 and 53, "Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. 48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation." (AV) and "Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death." (AV); and also shown at Jeremiah 26:11-13, "Then spake the priests and the prophets unto the princes and to all the people, saying, This man is worthy to die; for he hath prophesied against this city, as ye have heard with your ears. 12 Then spake Jeremiah unto all the princes and to all the people, saying, The LORD sent me to prophesy against this house and against this city all the words that ye have heard. 13 Therefore now amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you." (AV).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE SABBATH AND APOSTASY:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 571A]

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Revelation 19:11, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

This scripture shows how individuals conditions will be at the conclusion of the end times, and how Jesus (Yeshua) will go forth at this time per Revelation 6:2, [AV] “And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.” The righteous and the holy at this time will come under his rule as the ruler of God’s kingdom per Hebrews 3:6, [AV] “But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.” Yes, Jesus (Yeshua) is truly God’s only begotten son and the beginning of Almighty God (YHWH) creative works per Revelation 3:14, [AV] “And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” And as revealed at Hebrews 1:8 - 9, [AV] “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.”

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[2] THE SABBATH AND APOSTASY:

Here is a Commentary on Exodus 20:8 covering the Sabbath, read and learn about apostacy:

Exodus 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. (Authorized King James Bible; AV)

INTRODUCTION:

Keeping the Sabbath, on the seventh day, was the Fourth Commandment; which followed the Third Commandment which said, Exodus 20:7, "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." (AV).

PROTESTANT CHURCH ACCEPTED CATHOLIC DOCTRINE, HOOK LINE AND SINKER:
The Protestant church movement came out of the reformation on the basis the Roman Catholic was in gross error, but they accepted many of the wrong beliefs, doctrines, and myths of the Catholic church even when they directly went against the Word of God. Some of these were the Trinity, Christmas (the concept that Christ was born on December 25, which he was not), Sunday is the Sabbath (which it is not), etc. But let's deal just with the matter of the Sabbath or the seventh-day and not the other gross errors that the Protestants accepted as gospel from the Roman Catholics.

Today almost all Protestant churches celebrate the Sabbath on Sunday as we all know. However, Sunday is NOT the seventh-day of the week, but the first day of the week whose name actually means the Sun's day from ancient Roman pagan practices. Are you aware that the same nonsense unsupported arguments employed against the true Sabbath are also used in an attempt to refute the truth with respect God's (YHWH's) name which is often said as Yahweh in English. Even the Protestant King James Bible at Exodus 20:7 says, "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain;" but neglects to use either of his common names in English or the four letters from Hebrew which represent it, YHWH. This is wrong as are those contentions against the Sabbath being on the seventh-day.
Let's consider why the Sabbath was established by Yahweh himself on the seventh-day. This was stated at Genesis 2:2-3, "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it; because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." (AV); And in the New Testament at Acts 13:42-44 the Sabbath is shown as still in effect, "And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath. 43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. 44 And the next Sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God." (AV).

Nowhere does God (YHWH) give man the prerogative to make any day he wants the Sabbath or holy day. However, leaders of an apostate church without any authority from God (YHWH) took it upon themselves to change it at the Council of Nicea in 325 AD from Saturday (the true Sabbath day) to Sunday (the Day of the Sun) so as to compromise with the Roman pagans to please a pagan Roman Emperor, Constantine, a Worshipper of the Unconquered Sun. Why did this emperor want it changed? He wanted the Sabbath day changed to coincide with the holy day of the worshippers of the Unconquered Sun, i.e., Sunday. How and why did he bring about this God (YHWH) defying act?

The reason was the Pagan emperor Constantine needed Christians to salvage his shaky empire. Constantine embraced; howbeit only on his deathbed. However, he saw Christianity as a tool he could use to firm up his shaky empire. To this opportunity for political intrigue, and happy blend of politics and people was the chief triumvirate of Roman gods Jupiter, Juno and Minerva. Jupiter was the principal deity of Roman mythology and Juno was the next highest divinity. Minerva, the "offspring of the brain of Jupiter" was regarded as the "personification of divine thought, the plan of the material universe of which Jupiter was the creator and Juno the representative" (*1). Many Pagan ideas, in fact, were incorporated into Christianity. "Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it" (*2).

Roman Emperor Constantine needed to make his subjects feel secure if he were to maintain control of the empire; he wanted to rule a unified empire, be it pagan and/or Christian. But first he would have to find a way to end the dispute over the divinity of Jesus-was he a man or God? So he ordered his Christian bishops to meet at Nicaea in 325 A.D. to settle the matter once and for all. To do this, "he made himself the head of the church, and thus the problems of the church became his responsibilities. As a whole the Western Empire with its Roman influence, with some exceptions, had accepted Tertullian and his new theory of the Trinity in the early part of the previous century, but in the East the church adhered more closely to the older formula of baptism in the name of Jesus, or Jesus the Christ. Especially was this true with the Armenians, who specified that baptism "into the death of Christ" was that which alone was essential (*3).

This council went on for a very long time and the emperor worked behind the scene to get support for a Trinity or a Duality and to have the pagan holy day of the Unconquered Sun declared the Sabbath. This effort was not completely successful, but finally he got a majority and declared under imperial degree that this hence forth would be the central doctrinal pillar of the Christian church, which by this time was apostate. Even with this declaration by the emperor himself not all bishops signed the creed. (*4).

So is was the political product of an apostate church, an apostate church that allowed a pagan Roman Emporer, Constantine, to tell it which dogma to accept at the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D., and then have it rammed down their throats as blessed dogma by another Roman Emporer, Theodosius, at the Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D. This in direct violation of God's (YHWH's) word found in the Bible " Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." (James 4:4 AV), " If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." (John 15:19 AV).
The Roman Catholic church even admits that it alone authorized the change. Note: "Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the church [Roman Catholic] outside the Bible" (*5). Also, the proceedings of the Council of Nicea of 325 AD openly declare that they have changed the Sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday. (*6). Also, Dr. Edward Hiscox, the author of 'The Baptist Manual, states, "There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was NOT Sunday.....It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week...where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament." So we can clearly see from a Protestant source that they know the correct day of the week for the true Sabbath, but have accepted the day assigned by an apostate church, while knowing of the wrong, hook-line-and-sinker; thereby, joining and accepting the products of apostasy.

Of course, we can not earn salvation through any special day. Salvation is a gift from God (YHWH) and the Son of God (YHWH), Jesus (Yeshua). He does, however, give this gift to whom he considers worthy due to their obedience, and denies it to the disobedient. The Apostle Paul brought this fact out at Hebrews 5:9, "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;" (AV); On the other hand, he wrote, 1 Corinthians 6:9, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulteres, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." (AV).

CONCLUSION:

As can readily be seen, the apostate church on their own switched the Sabbath from the God (YHWH) appointed day of Saturday (which actually means Sabbath as can readily be ascertained if you look at that day in the Spanish language, Sabado) to Sunday (the Day of the Sun) without any authority from God (YHWH) to do so. In other words they usurped God's (YHWH's) exclusive prerogative in an extreme act of defiance and disobedience; And most of the Protestants went along with this brazen act of defiance against the rights of Almighty God (YHWH) and adopted the fruits of this defiant, disobedient act by the apostate church they claim to rail against for themselves. This shows disobedience on the part of all who accept this lie and act of defiance and disobedience.

REFERENCES:

*1 - McClintock & Strong's Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, Vol. 6
*2 - Lamson, Newton & Durant, Will, "Caesar and Christ," cited from Charles Redeker Caesar and Christ, W. Duran (page 595).
*3 - ENCYLOPEDIA BRITANNICA, 11th Edition, Vol. 3, (page 366).
*4 - Payne, Robert, "The Holy Fire: The Story of the Early Centuries of the Christian Churches in the Near East" (1957); BETHUNE-BAKER, J,F. "An Introduction to the Early History of Christian Doctrine". Methuen; 5th Ed., 1933 and ENCYLOPEDIA BRITANNICA, 11th Edition, Vol. 3, (page 366); David, Francis and Blandrata, Georgio, "De falsa et vera unius Dei Patris, Filii, et Spiritus Sancti cognitone" [Latin](The False and True Knowledge of the Unity of God the Father, Son, and Holy spirit), 1566 A.D.; Eklof, Todd F., "David's Francis Tower, Strength through Peace," (06-16-02); The New Encyclopedia Britannica: " Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126. (1976); Parkes, James, "The Foundation of Judaism and Christianity," 1960; Durant, Will. "Caesar and Christ." New York: Simon. 1944. Vol. 3 of The Story of Civilization. 11 vols. 1935-75.
*5 - Catholic Verginian, October 3, 1947.
*6 - Proceedings of the First Great Church Council at Nicea in 325 AD.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] TRINITARIANS HOLD TO AN IMPOSSIBLE MATHEMATICAL EQUALITY IN TWO WAYS:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 572A]

And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. Revelation 17:12 – 14, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, as Daniel revealed at Daniel 7:24, [AV] “And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.” As shown at Psalms 2:2 - 3, [AV] “The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.” Yes, Jesus (Yeshua) will at this day remove the sins of the earth per John 1:29, [AV] “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” As shown at Acts 2:36, [AV] “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.” This Jesus (Yeshua) will execute against Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) enemies at the conclusion of the end times as prophesied at Revelation 19:15, [AV] “And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.”

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[2] TRINITARIANS HOLD TO AN IMPOSSIBLE MATHEMATICAL EQUALITY IN TWO WAYS:

INTRODUCTION:

As we all know, regular mathematics holds to a strict 1 to 1 equalization. But Trinitarians try to even twist addition with an equivocity spin on addition that is ignorant beyond belief.

In addition, they claim - "Jesus = God" which the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible, at numerous places shows is clearly impossible. They come up with all types of far fetched arguments to back up their ignorant claims. In fact, one scripture that clearly shows them in error in two ways, they actually try and use to support their absurd creedal theory. Let's look at the for a moment before getting into mathematical and grammatical facts that completely prove them wrong.

Take John 1:1-2, "Originally, was, the Word, and, the Word, was, with God; and, the Word, was, God.
2 The same, was originally, with God." (Rotherham Bible of 1902; RB).

First point - It is obviously a defective/bad/biased translational construct as you can not be with someone and be that someone at the same time.

Second point - To have a trinity of anything, you must have three things, usually alike, but in these scriptures, even thought they are an obviously a defective/bad/biased translational construct, you only have two, hence no trinity of anything. So much for their ignorant claims.

Now let's look at language in conjunction with mathematics.

FACTS OF LANGUAGE AND MATHEMATICS AND BEARING ON TRANSLATION:

The best translations of the Bible are based on the univocity approach used by many translators of literal Bible translations. Although this approach is best in most instances, but must be deviated from when context require. Of course I understand what some are saying with respect a univocity approach to translation, but even those insisting on a strict univocity approach to translation such as the Translation Committee of the New World Translation (NWT), and the great German translator Dr. J.J. Griesbach, both recognize because of the 'fluid' nature of language - content must govern rather than a univocity approach. Unfortunately, language does not hold to a 1 to 1 equalization all the time as does most parts of mathematics - even in mathematics there are exceptions such as quadratic equations that can have more than one answer. Even with the part of mathematics that does hold to a strict 1 to 1 equalization - addition - some try and claim an exception. take 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 as we all know from grade school math, but there are those, as most well know, that claim 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 - clearly an impossibility - only held by Trinitarians. Now we well know that addition is not fluid like language, but Trinitarians try and put an equivocity spin on addition - how ignorant.

But as said in the introduction, "But Trinitarians try to even twist addition with an equivocity spin on addition that is ignorant beyond belief."

Now let's look at some scriptures that clearly show the Trinitarian approach to understanding the scriptures that says,

"Jesus = God" absurd theory,

is without any Biblical foundation when the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible is considered even at its simplest level.

EVEN A CURSORY EXAMINATION OF SCRIPTURE PROVES TRINITARIANS CONTENTION IMPOSSIBLE:

First, The inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible, clearly show that Jesus (Yeshua) Christ, after his resurrection by his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, was given the most prominent position - at his Father's right or at the right-hand of his Father's throne. Clearly delienating the fact that He, Jesus (Yeshua), was [b]not his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, but his Father's only begotten Son as shown many places in the Bible, as follows from the Rotherham Bible of 1902; (RB) :

Mark 16:19 The Lord [[Jesus]], therefore, on the one hand, after talking with them, was taken up into heaven, and sat down on the right hand of God:

Acts 2:33 By the right hand of God, therefore, having been exalted, also, the promise of the Holy Spirit, having received from the Father, He hath poured out this which, yourselves, do see and hear.

Acts 7:55 But he, being already full of Holy Spirit, looking steadfastly into heaven, saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God;

Acts 7:56 And said--Lo! I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man, standing, on the right hand of God.

Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? Christ [[Jesus]] who died?--Nay! rather was raised [[from among the dead]], --who is on the right hand of God, who also is making intercession in our behalf?

Colossians 3:1 If, therefore, ye have been raised together with the Christ, the things on high, be seeking, where, the Christ, is--on the right hand of God, sitting;

Hebrews 10:12 But this priest, having offered one sacrifice for sins evermore, sat down on the right hand of God:

1Peter 3:22 Who is on the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, messengers and authorities and powers, having been made subject unto him.

All clearly showing he is the Son of God and NOT his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Almighty God.

So the Trinitarian's equation that says either 'Jesus or the "word*1" = God' is invalid prima facia.

*1 = First, I think the word "Logos" would make a better translation of the original Koine Greek that "word" in these scriptures, but of course that point is arguable. Yet an encyclopedia says:

<<<"Some scholars of the Bible have suggested that John made creative use of double meaning in the word "Logos" to communicate to both Jews, who were familiar with the Wisdom tradition in Judaism, and Hellenic polytheism, especially followers of Philo. Each of these two groups had its own history associated with the concept of the Logos, and each could understand John's use of the term from one or both of those contexts. Especially for the Hellenists, however, John turns the concept of the Logos on its head when he claimed "the Logos became flesh and dwelt among us" (v. 14). Similarly, some translations of the Gospel of John into Chinese have used the word "Tao (?)" to translate the "Logos" in a provocative way.

Gordon Clark famously translated Logos as "Logic" in the opening verses of the Gospel: "In the beginning was the Logic, and the Logic was with God and the Logic was God." He meant to imply by this translation that the laws of logic were contained in the Bible itself and were therefore not a secular principle imposed on the Christian worldview.

On April 1, 2005, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (who would become Pope Benedict XVI just over two weeks later) referred to the Christian religion as the religion of the Logos:

Christianity must always remember that it is the religion of the "Logos." It is faith in the "Creator Spiritus," in the Creator Spirit, from which proceeds everything that exists. Today, this should be precisely its philosophical strength, in so far as the problem is whether the world comes from the irrational, and reason is not, therefore, other than a "sub-product," on occasion even harmful of its development or whether the world comes from reason, and is, as a consequence, its criterion and goal. The Christian faith inclines toward this second thesis, thus having, from the purely philosophical point of view, really good cards to play, despite the fact that many today consider only the first thesis as the only modern and rational one par excellence. However, a reason that springs from the irrational, and that is, in the final analysis, itself irrational, does not constitute a solution for our problems. Only creative reason, which in the crucified God is manifested as love, can really show us the way. In the so necessary dialogue between secularists and Catholics, we Christians must be very careful to remain faithful to this fundamental line: to live a faith that comes from the "Logos," from creative reason, and that, because of this, is also open to all that is truly rational.[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] >>>.

But in any case whether you hold for "logos" or "word" it clearly refers to the Son of God, who according to the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible, now sits at his Father's right hand per the scriptures, some of which follow, all from the Rotherham Bible of 1902; (RB) :

Second, As we all well know, many people clearly saw Jesus (Yeshua) when he was on earth, once more showing that he can not be the same as his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is. The Bible clearly shows the Father, God, as always being invisible as follows:

John 1:18 says, "No one, hath seen, God, at any time: An Only Begotten God, The One existing within the bosom of the Father, He, hath interpreted him." (Rotherham Bible of 1902; RB). Now if you haven't seen him and no one else how can you possibly claim he came to earth as a man, just ridicules.

Exodus 33:20, "But he said--Thou canst not see my face,--For no son of earth can see me, and live." (RB). If one can not see his face and live, where do you find an account of mass dyings from people beholding it?

1 Timothy 1:17, "Now, unto the King of the ages,--incorruptible, invisible, alone God, be honour and glory, unto the ages of ages, Amen!" (RB). Now if the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, is invisible how would you know if he were on earth in any form?

I think the Trinitarians have a lot of answering to do for contradicting the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, word, the Bible.

Third, Many Trinitarians will point to John 10:30 where it says, "I and the Father, are, one." (RB). Yet, they never say how they are one since it is not in being, but purpose. Let's look at the facts:

This is an interesting scripture, and taken alone out of context could lead the unsteadfast to the false conclusion that they were one in body, but taken in contest, this would be seen as impossible. In John 10:29, Jesus (Yeshua) clearly showed they were two separate individuals, "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand." (NASB). Clearly here was a giver, the Father (YHWH) whom Jesus (Yeshua) publically declared was "greater than all" which statement would include being greater than himself, Jesus (Yeshua). Also, there was a receiver, a distinct individual, "has given them to Me."

This 'one' is one in purpose and this is made clear at John 17:9-11, " "I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours; 10 and all things that are Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine; and I have been glorified in them. 11 "I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. Which not only shows Jesus (Yeshua) and his Father (YHWH) as being one in prupose, but also, all the true Christian followers of his Son (Yeshua).

As previously mentioned, many try and misuse this scripture, John 10:30, to support either a Duality or a Trinity; however, it supports neither and especially not a Trinity as only two individual beings are mentioned in it.

With respect a Trinity, Jay P. Green's, "Classic Bible Dictionary," says, "This is not itself a Biblical term, but was a term coined by Tertullian to refer to the whole concept under one word." [Classic Bible Dictionary," by Jay P. Green, page 483]. Another renown work says, "Respecting the manner in which the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit make one G-d, the Scripture teaches nothing, since the subject is of such a nature as not to admit of its being explained to us." [Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature," under Trinity, on page 553]. In other words, this false God (YHWH) dishonoring false doctrine of the Trinity is a revealed doctrine of men that is foreign to the scripture (Bible). It is to be outright rejected by all who are true followers of Jesus (Yeshua).

Fourth, Of course, if Jesus (Yeshua) and his Father, Almighty God, were one God or being, then John 5:22 would be null and void, "For neither doth, the Father, judge anyone,--but, all the judging, hath given unto the Son:" (Rotherham Bible of 1902; RB); as would 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" (Authorized King James Bible; AV). How so? One can not be a mediator between two entities and be one of those entities.

CONCLUSION:

Trinitarians try to cover up the short comings of their false the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, dishonoring creedal doctrine by obfuscation and "throwing smoke" with very involved reasoning and quotes of such men as so called St. Augustine, but the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible as just shown keeps it simple and clearly shows this doctrine for what it is, a pagan impossible doctrine in keeping with 2 Corinthians 4:4, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (AV). Trinitarians do not believe in the KISS principle (keep it simple stupid) since it would prove them stupid if applied to their false creedal doctrine of, "Jesus = God."

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] HEBREWS 1:1-3 GIVES CLEAR PROOF OF THE NONE EXISTENCE OF A TRINITY:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 573A]

John 8:42 Jesus (Yeshua) said to them, " Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

Jesus (Yeshua) said he comes from God. The flesh cannot be speaking for the flesh was created. So Jesus (Yeshua)'s spiritual being came from God. Jesus (Yeshua) did not send himself, he did not come on his own, but before he was on earth, God sent him. Jesus (Yeshua) was sent by God into the world, so Jesus (Yeshua) is before the world with God. He is referred to a Pr. 8:22-31, “The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. 24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

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[2] HEBREWS 1:1-3 GIVES CLEAR PROOF OF THE NONE EXISTENCE OF A TRINITY:

Hebrews 1:1-3, now let's look at this scripture, "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;" (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

Now, when we examine these three scriptures, we immediately see in the first scripture, Hebrews 1:1, that the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, has "who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets," which harkens back to events in the Old Testament such as Isaiah 1:1-2, "The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
2 ¶ Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me." (Authorized King James Bible; AV); and Numbers 12:7-9, "My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed." (AV). In both of these scriptures and in others the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, communicated with the prophets and not his only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua). But let's get a better understanding by considering Hebrews 1:2, "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;" (AV), as can be seen, this clearly shows they are two separate individuals, else appointed heir would be meaningless.

Now,John 1:3-4, says, "All things came into being through Him: and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life; and the life was the light of men." (New American Standard Bible, ref. Ed. By Moody Press; NASB-MP). This brings up the question of who is this light, and how did all things come into existence through him? This 'light' is none other than Jesus (Yeshua) the first of God's (YHWH's) creation per Colossians 1:15, "and He is the image of the invisible God, the first born of Creation." (NASB-MP). So now that we know who is being spoken of at John 1:3-4, we need to know how all things came into being 'Through' him. Well his Father (YHWH) used him and gave him a portion of his spirit or active force and used Jesus (Yeshua) in the creation of everything else after he created him as testified to at Colossians 1:16-17, "For in Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 and He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." (NASB-MP).

God (YHWH) continued to use him to carry out his works, especially in these end times as testified to at Hebrews 1:2, "in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made world." (NASB-MP). This is also testified to at 1 Corinthians 8:6, which also shows there is one Father (YHWH) from which all comes, and one Son, Jesus (YHWH) he used to create all other things 'through;' "get for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ through whom are all things, and we exist through Him." (NASB-MP); And at, Ephesians 3:9, "and to bring to light what is the administration of the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God, who created all things;" (NASB-MP). The Father (YHWH) of Jesus (Yeshua) is per Hebrews 1:1, the "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers of the prophets." (Authorized King James Bible, AV).

Now let's consider Hebrews 1:3, "But of which of the angels hath he said at any time, Sit thou on my right hand, Till I make thine enemies the footstool of thy feet?", (American Standard Version; ASV). This scripture reaffirms what the Apostle John wrote at John 1:14, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (Authorized King James Bible; AV); And at John 17:5-8, "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept my word. 7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me." (AV). Clearly we see that Jesus (Yeshua) was made flesh but had the glory or attributes of His Father (YHWH), and just before his execution that he prayed to His Father (YHWH) for his Father (YHWH) to "glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. This fact, that he lived in heaven and was the image of his Father (YHWH) was testified to at Colossians 1:15-16, "who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him and unto him;" (ASV); All these scriptures showing beyond doubt that He was created in the image of his Father (YHWH) and was a separate and distinct entity or being from His Father (YHWH).

Whereas, many misguided ones who have been caught up in the things of the world contrary to James 4:4, "Ye adulteresses know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore would be a friend of the world maketh himself an enemy of God." (ASV). His Father (YHWH) has, Colossians 1:17-18, "and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it was the good pleasure of the Father that in him should all the fullness dwell;" (ASV). But misguided ones who give heed to the doctrines and fables of men say He and His Father (YHWH) are either one individual and/or different manifestations of one individual; whereas, it can readily be seen from the scriptures above this could NOT be so; And the Son of God, Jesus (Yeshua) openly declared that His Father (YHWH) was greater than He at John 14:28, "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (Authorized King James Bible; AV); Now obviously this statement would actually be a lie if they were one and the same and also dumb as it is impossible, as we all know, for someone to be greater than himself. However, many have been mislead by the false doctrines and fables of mankind where they can not see this simple truth, clearly shown when Almighty God (YHWH) resurrected His son and sat his at his right hand to continue carrying out the assignment God (YHWH) had given Him as foretold at Psalms 110:1, "Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool." (ASV); And at Hebrews 10:12, "but he, when he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever sat down on the right hand of God;" (ASV); And affirmed at Romans 8:33-34, "Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth; 34 who is he that condemneth? It is Christ Jesus that died, yea rather, that was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us." (ASV); And if this be so and he makes intercession for us, it would have to be with someone else, and in this case it is his Father (YHWH) as shown at 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, one mediator also between God and men, himself man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a ransome for all; the testimony to be borne in its own times;" (ASV). Therefore we can readily see that those who say Jesus (Yeshua) and His Father, Almighty God (YHWH) are the same, and/or that they are different manifestations of the same being have fallen under the mis-direction of the god of this system who is identified at 2 Corinthians 4:4, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (AV); due to their not seeking sound doctrine per Titus 2:1, "But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:" (AV).

As can be seen from these scriptures, they clearly show the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, as the supreme being, Almighty God, who has always existed, and his only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua), as the first of creation who is subordinate to him. In fact, the word "begotten" is the past tense of "beget" and the Webster 1828 Dictionary says,

<<<"BEGET', v.t. pret. begot, begat; pp. begot, begotten. = 1. To procreate, as a father or sire; to generate; as, to beget a son.">>>

Clearly showing that Jesus (Yeshua) was created and not always existing as was his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, who beget him through creation, of which he was first per Revelation 3:14, "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" (AV). So it is clear that Jesus (Yeshua) is not co-eternal nor equal with his Father, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] JEWISH SUPERSTITION CAUSES SUBSTITUTION FOR GOD'S NAME:

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 574A]

And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. Revelation 17:12 – 14, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, as Daniel revealed at Daniel 7:24, [AV] “And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.” As shown at Psalms 2:2 - 3, [AV] “The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.” Yes, Jesus (Yeshua) will at this day remove the sins of the earth per John 1:29, [AV] “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” As shown at Acts 2:36, [AV] “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.” This Jesus (Yeshua) will execute against Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) enemies at the conclusion of the end times as prophesied at Revelation 19:15, [AV] “And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.”

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[2] JEWISH SUPERSTITION CAUSES SUBSTITUTION FOR GOD'S NAME:

A Jewish superstition caused Almighty God's (YHWH's) name to be substituted with substitutes in many ancient scrolls, and the un-steadfast wrestle with these instead of trying to gain understanding, but some translations have put the proper name back in where it belongs such as the American Standard Version, ASV; and The Restored Name Bible, and the New World Translation, NWT; and is some places The Living Bible or Holman Standard Christian Bible as either Jehovah or Yahweh where the Tetragrammaton or God's name (YHWH) was in the original. We shall now consider some places in the Bible where this occurred:

Psalm 33:6:
King James Bible, AV: "Thy righteousness is like the great mountains; thy judgments are a great deep: O lord, thou preservest man and beast."
American Standard Version, ASV: "Thy righteousness is like the mountains of God; Thy judgments are a gread deep: O Jehovah, thou preservest man and beast."

Isaiah 42:5:
AV: "Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:"
ASV: "Thus saith God Jehovah, he that created the heavens, and stretched them forth; he that spread abroad the earth and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:"

Isaiah 44:24:
AV: "Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I (am) the Lord that maketh all (things); that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself:'
ASV: "Thus saith Jehovah, thy Redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb: I am Jehovah, that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth (who is with me?)"

[for brevity, only pertinent parts of the scripture will be given from here on, but the reader is urged to go check them out in both the King James Bible, AV; and the American Standard Version, ASV]

Genesis 21:33:
AV: "....the Lord, the everlasting God."
ASV: "...the name of Jehovah, the Everlasting God."

Psalm 93:2-3:
AV: "Thy throne is.... 3 The floods have lifted up, O Lord, the floods...."
ASV: "Thy throne is .... 3 The floods have lifted up, O Jehovah, the floodw...."

Isaiah 40:28:
AV: "....the everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator...."
ASV: "....The everlasting God, Jehovah, the Creator...."

Isaiah 44:6:
AV: "Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of host;...."
ASV: "Thus saith Jehovah, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts:...."

Habakkuk 1:12:
AV: "(Art) thou not from everlasting, O Lord my God,...."
ASV

: "Art not thou from everlasting, O Jehovah my God,...."

Malachi 3:6:
AV: "For I (am) the Lord, I change not...."
ASV: "For I, Jehovah, change not...."

So while some claim that these scriptures refer and many others refer to Jesus (Yeshua) in a vain attempt to make Jesus (Yeshua) Almighty God (YHWH); they do NOT refer to him and those claiming otherwise are deceiving themselves and others who listen to them in support of false doctrines and myths they love instead of the Truth of God's (YHWH's) word as recorded in the Bible. Theirs is nothing a con game of logomachy or in other words a 'rip-off' of deceit. Most of these really refer to the Biblical fact that God (YHWH) alone is eternal and uncreated; whereas, his Son, the Son of God, Jesus (Yeshua) is the first of creation as testified to at Colossians 1:15, "who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation:" or as rendered in the Catholic, Confraternity Edition of The New Testament; (CENTN), "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature." (CENTN)or in Revelation (Apocalypse) 3:14, "'And to the angel of the church at Laodicea write: Thus says the Amen, the faithful and true witness, who is the beginning of the creation of God." (CENTN). Therefore we should be on guard as directed at Titus 2:1, "But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:" (AV). So we can clearly see not all religions would be acceptable to God (YHWH) as they definitely all are not worshipping him in "spirit and in truth;" however, we must "worship him in spirit and in truth." As shown at John 4:23-24, "But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (Authorized King James Bible, AV). Thus in order to be counted worthy for salvation we must be very careful to do so.

APPENDIX:

YHWH/JEHOVAH: The name of God .
All the gods of World Religion have a name. Every single deity has a personal name. Islam worships Allah. Buddhism has various"Buddified" deities in association with Siddhartha Buddha. Hinduism has the Trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva; and even Krishna as Supreme personality of godhead. In ancient times, the Egyptians directly worshiped their gods using personal names. The ancient Greek had Zeus, who later became Jupiter to the Romans, as their chief deity. The Babylonians had Nebo their god of wisdom and agriculture; and Marduk. The inhabitants of ancient Canaan worshiped Baal; who was basically their god of fertility. Without Baal's blessings, the Canaanites believed Mot - a vindictive Canaanite god, would bring disaster upon them. Zoroastrians worshiped their god Ahura Mazda. In Egyptian worship the god of the dead was Anubis and Osiris was the chief god ofthe underworld. What about the God of the Old Testament; did he have a name? The answer is yes; apart from his title of El•o•him [God], he has a personal name. El•o•him is actually a Hebrew word in plural form, used by the Bible writers to express grandeur and supreme sovereignty. In a similar manner, the monarchs of Europe apply this routine when they refer to themselves as "we" and not "I". In ancient times, there was fierce competition between gods. Indeed the God of Israel had to contend for the loyalty of the Israelites with other gods. In Canaan He had to continuously punish the Israelites who kept deviating to worshiping the aforementioned Baal.

In this atmosphere, a God not having a name could not have gained fame. The Israelites knew and freely used God's personal name. In the Hebrew language, God's name is written YHWH. These four letters are commonly called the Tetragrammaton. The Bible actually encourages God's name to be in wide appropriate use - [Exodus 3:15; Proverbs 18:10; Isaiah 12:4; Zephaniah
3:9] God's personal name actually appears almost 7,000 times in the original Hebrew scriptures. Why now do we not know the correct pronunciation of God's personal name; the name of Jesus' Father? By the 1st century CE the Jews developed a superstition about God's name. Not only did they stop using God's name, but forbade its pronunciation altogether. Commentaries supplementing scriptural laws, based on explanations by rabbis came to be in writing. From these, an unscriptural book known as the Mishnah began forbidding God's name from being spoken - [Sanhedrin 10:1] This book began circulating with the Jews in the late second and early third century CE. Even today, Jews strictly forbid the uttering of the divine name. By this act of the Jews, deliberately or otherwise, the correct pronunciation of God's name seems almost lost. However, many names of people and places mentioned in the Bible contain an abbreviated form of the divine name. Using these, one can arrive at an educated guess on the proper pronunciation. The pronunciation of Biblical names have survived intact throughout the centuries. "In ancient times, parents often named their children after their deities. That means that they would have pronounced their children's names the way the deity's name was pronounced. The Tetragrammaton was used in people's names, and they always used the middle vowel" - George Buchanan, professor emeritus at Wesley Theological Seminary,Washington D.C., U.S.A.

Let us consider a few of these examples of proper names found in the Bible that includes a shortenedform of God's name:
Jehoaddah (YEHOADDA)- Jehovah (YHWH)has decked himself
Jehoaddan (YEHOADDAN)-Jehovah (YHWH)is pleasure
Jehoahaz (YEHOAHAZ)- May Jehovah (YHWH)take hold
Jehoash (YEHOAS)- Jehovah (YHWH)has been gracious
Jehohanan (YEHOHANAN)- Jehovah (YHWH)has shown favor
Jehoiachin (YEHOYAKIN)- Jehovah (YHWH)has firmly established
Jehoiada (YEHOYADA)- May Jehovah (YHWH)Know
Jehoiakim (YEHOYAQIM)- Jehovah (YHWH)raises up
Jehoiarib (YEHOYARIB)- May Jehovah (YHWH)contend
Jehonadab (YEHONADAB)- Jah is willing; noble; generous
Jehonathan (YEHONATHAN)- Jehovah (YHWH)has given
Jehoram (YEHORAM)- Jehovah (YHWH)is high; exalted
Jehoshabeath (YEHOSABAT)- Jehovah (YHWH)is plenty
Jehoshaphat (YEHOSAPAT)- Jehovah (YHWH)is judge
Jehosheba (YEHOSEBA)- Jehovah (YHWH)is plenty
Jehoshua (YEHOSUA)- Jehovah (YHWH)is Salvation
Jehozabad (YEHOZABAD)- Jehovah (YHWH)has endowed
Jehozadak (YEHOSADAQ)- Jehovah (YHWH)pronounces righteous

Jonathan, which appears as Yoh_na_than or Yehoh_na_than in the Hebrew Bible; means "Yaho or Yahowah has given" -according to professor Buchanan.

The prophet Elijah's name is 'E_li_yah' or E_li_yah_hu in Hebrew; meaning "My God is Yahoo orYahoo_wah." Similarly, Jehoshaphat is Yehoh_sha_phat', meaning "Yaho has judged" - the professor explains. A two-syllable pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton as "Yahweh" would not allow for the "o" vowel sound to exist as part of God's name. But in the dozens of Biblical names that incorporate the divine name, this middle vowel sound appears in both the original and shortened form; such as Jehonathan and Jonathan. Thus, Professor Buchanan says regarding the divine name: "In no case is the vowel "oo" or "oh" omitted. The word was sometimes abbreviated as "Ya", but never as "Ya_weh"...in one syllable it was "Yah" or "Yo". When it was pronounced in three syllables it would have been "Yahowah" or "Yahoowah". If it was ever abbreviated to two syllable it would have been "Yaho" - [Biblical Archaeological Review]

Usually, God's name is presented as fundamental in the monotheistic religions, but its pronunciation is controversial (YeHoWaH, Yahve, Jehovah,...). However, the key to unlock this mystery was provided by the famous Maimonides 800 years ago, when he wrote that the Name of God (the tetragram YHWH) "is read as it is written". The paradox starts and ends here with these intriguing words. THE NAME OF GOD Y_EH_OW_AH WHICH IS PRONOUNCED AS IT IS WRITTEN I_EH_OU_AH. Gérard Gertoux, University Press of America,(r) Inc Lanham _ New York _ Oxford "How God's Name Was Pronounced Biblical Archaeology Review, Mar./Apr. 1995 Volume 21Number 2; page 30: 1-Among the magical papyri the name appears as IAWOUHE (Ya_oh_oo_ay_eh), but it is difficult to know how much this pronunciation had to do with the Tetragrammaton...so it is not certain how many of these syllables were thought to belong to the name. At least, however, it has more syllables than two, and the central vowel is not omitted, as is done in Yah-weh. However, if the word were spelled with four letters in Moses' day, we would expect it to have had more than two syllables, for at that period there were no vowel letters. All the letters were sounded. At the end of the OT period the Elephantine papyri write the word YHW to be read either yahu (as in names like Shemayahu) or yaho (as in names like Jehozadek). The pronunciation yaho would be favored by the later Greek from iao found in Qumran Greek fragments (2d or 1stcenturies B.C.) and in Gnostic materials of the first Christian enturies.-Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament There was only one group in antiquity to pronounce the divine name similar to the popular form, 'Yahweh." And this only because Theodoret (fifth-century CE Antiochene theologioan) claimed that the Samaritans pronounced the divine name as Iahe. But, "all other examples [from antiquity] maintain the middle vowel. George Buchanan, "How Gods Name Was Pronounced" BAR21.2 (March-April 1995, 31-32.

Also arguing for a trisyllable pronounciation is David Thomas: "It is sometimes argued that the form Jehovah is a made-up composite form which bears little
resemblance to Yahweh, the presumed Hebrew pronunciation...If we accept Yitschak=Isaac without any problem, this appears to be 'straining at the gnat'.-"A Further Note on YHWH" BT 44.4(October 1993), 444-445

"In the history of the English language however, the letter J has a written counterpart in the German J, although the latter J in German is pronounced like an English Y. The bulk of theological studies having come from the German sources, there has been an intermixed usage in English of the J and the Y. Our
English translations of the bible reflect this, so we have chosen to use J, thus Jehovah, rather than Yahweh, because this is established English usage for
Biblical names beginning with this Hebrew letters. No one suggests that we ought to change Jacob, Joseph, Jehoshaphat, Joshua etc. to begin with a Y, and neither should we at this late date change Jehovah to Yahweh." -Bible Translator Jay P. Green, Sr. Johann David Michaelis in his German translation of the Old Testament of the eighteenth century...said in part: "On the other hand, the name Jehovah (YHWH)[Jehova in German] is used. . . . so I considered it to be a matter of integrity in translation to identify it, even though it might not always be pleasing to the German ear." ....Several of my friends insisted that I not at all insert this foreign word. . . Jehovah (YHWH)is a Nomen Proprium, and, just as properly as I retain other nomina propria [such as] Abraham, Isaac, Jacob... In the translation of a classical author one would not have the slightest hesitance toward the use of the names Jupiter, Apollo and Diana; and why then should the name of the Only True God sound moreoffensive? I do not therefore see why I should not use the name Jehovah (YHWH)inthe German Bible."

In English, the shout of "Hallelujah" means "Praise Jah you people." The Jah comes from the one syllable Hebrew translation of the divine name to Yah. Hence, God's name in English is Jehovah; from the above Yahowah. The personal name is the causative form, the imperfect state, of the Hebrew verb ha•wah' [become]; meaning "He Causes to Become".

However, if we are reasonably confident of Gods true name in its original Hebrew language, is it acceptable to use its English equivalent? Absolutely. Francis B. Denio, who studied and taught Hebrew for 40 years says: "Jehovah (YHWH) misrepresents Yahweh no more than Jeremiah misrepresents Yirmeyahu. The settled connotation of Isaiah and Jeremiah forbid questioning their right. Usage has given them the connotations proper for designating the personalities which these words represent. Much the same is true of Jehovah. It is not barbarism. It has already many of the connotations needed for the proper name of the covenant God of Israel. There is no other word which can faintly compare with it. For centuries it has been gathering these connotations. No other word approaches this name in fulness of associations required. The use of any other word falls so far short of the proper ideas that it is a serious blemish in a translation." On the Use of the Word Jehovah, JBL 46, 1927, 147-148

On the name "Jehovah" the Catholic Encyclopedia states: (1913) http://www.newadvent.org) "Jehovah: The proper name of God in the Old Testament; hence the Jews called it the name by excellence, the great name, the only name,.... Finally, the word is found even in the "Pugio fidei" of Raymund Martin, a work written about 1270 (ed. Paris, 1651, pt. III, dist. ii, cap. iii, p. 448, and Note, p. 745).

PROBABLY THE INTRODUCTION OF THE NAME JEHOVAH ANTEDATES EVEN R. MARTIN. No wonder then that this form has been regarded as the true pronunciation of the Divine name by such scholars as Michaelis ("Supplementa ad lexica hebraica", I, 1792, p. 524),Drach (loc. cit., I, 469-98), Stier (Lehrgebäude der hebr. Sprache,327), and others." So, God's name was most probably pronounced Yehowah or Yahoowah before man's traditions deemed itunutterable. Today, the name Jehovah (YHWH)is absolutely acceptable when referring to YWHW, the Almighty God of the Bible. And we can see that Jehovah's Witnesses are not the only people to recognize Jehovah (YHWH)as the proper English name for identifying the True God. Nor are Jehovah's Witnesses the only people to use the Divine Name "Jehovah" in their Bible(NWT) either.

The King James Version uses Jehovah (YHWH)at Ex.6:3,Ps.83:18, Is.12:2;26:4
The American Standard Version uses Jehovah (YHWH)thousandsof times.
Young's Literal Translation uses Jehovah (YHWH)thousands of times.
The Holy Bible by J.N.Darby uses Jehovah (YHWH)thousands of times.
The Literal Translation/King James 2 Version by Jay P. Green uses Jehovah (YHWH)thousands of times.
The Recovery Version by Livings Dreams Ministry usesJehovah (YHWH)thousands of times.
The New English Bible uses Jehovah (YHWH)at Exodus chapters 3 and 6.
The Living Bible/Protestant and Catholic editions uses Jehovah (YHWH)over 300 times.
The English Revised Version uses Jehovah (YHWH) at Ex. 6:2,3,6,7,8, Ps. 83:18, Is. 12:2;26:4.
The Bible in Living English by Byington uses Jehovah (YHWH) thousands of times.
The Webster Bible uses Jehovah (YHWH)in the same places as the KJV above.
The Modern Language Bible/New Berkeley Version uses Jehovah (YHWH)at Exodus 3:15; 6:3, Numbers 3:13, 45; 15:41;21:14; 35:34, Ezra 6:21; Ps. 8:1, 9; 16:2, Is 12:2; 140:7; 141:8; 147:1, Hosea 12:5, Zech. 4:10 etc.
The Emphatic Diaglott uses Jehovah (YHWH)at Matt 21:42; 22:37, 44, 23:39, Mark 11:9 and Acts 2:34
Boothroyd's Versions uses Jehovah (YHWH)thousands of times.
S. Sharp's translation uses Jehovah (YHWH)thousands of times.
The Reina Valera Bible uses Jehova thousands of times.
The Moderna version uses Jehova thousands of times.

At Exodus 9: 15,16 Jehovah (YHWH)stated, " For by now I could have thrust my hand out that I might strike you and your people with pestilence and that you might be effaced from the earth. But, in fact, for this case I have kept you in existence, for the sake of showing you my power and in order to have my name declared in all the earth." Jehovah, the author of mankinds languages(Gen11:7), has truly made His Name, His character, the kind of being that He is(One that
will "prove to be" with his people) known to the most distant parts of the earth. And as he did with the gods of Egypt, Jehovah (YHWH)God will do again when he fulfills his promises, as written in his inspired words, "And I will bring myself into judgment with him, with pestilence and with blood: and a flooding downpour and hailstones, fire and sulphur I shall rain down upon him and upon his bands and upon the many peoples that will be with him. And I shall certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah." Eze. 38: 22,23.

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[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 575A]

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. Revelation 6:2, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

As testified to at Proverbs 21:31, [AV] “The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD.” And at the conclusion of the end times a great war will take place between Jesus (Yeshua) and the Devil as predicted at Psalms 45:4 - 5, [AV] “And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things. 5 Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the king’s enemies; whereby the people fall under thee.”
And the Apostle John gives clear detail on what will take place at Revelation 14:14, [AV] “And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.” Yes, there will be war in Heaven between Jesus (Yeshua) and his forces and those of the Devil as prophesied at Revelation 12:7, [AV] “And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,” Yes, the forces of the Devil will make war with Jesus (Yeshua) per Revelation 17:14, [AV] “These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the giant granadilla, Passiflora quadrangularis L. (syn. P. macrocarpa M.T. Mast.), is often called merely granadilla, or parcha, Spanish names loosely applied to various related species; or it may be distinguished as granadilla real, grandadilla grande, parcha granadina or parcha de Guinea. In El Salvador, it is known as granadilla de fresco or granadilla para refrescos; in parts of Colombia, it is badea or corvejo; in the State of Tachira, Venezuela, badea; in Bolivia, granadilla real or sandía de Pasión. In Brazil, it is maracuya-acu, maracuja-assu, maracuja silvestre, maracuya grande, maracuja suspiro, maracuja mamao, or maracuja de caiena. In Surinam, it is grote or groote markoesa; in Peru and Ecuador, tumbo or tambo. In the Philippines, its local names are parola, kasaflora, and square-stemmed passion flower. To Indonesians, it is familiar as markiza, markoesa, markeesa, or manesa, and to the Malays, timun belanda, marquesa or mentimun. In Thailand, it is su-khontha-rot; in Vietnam, dua gan tay, or barbadine, the French name.

Description
The vine is fast-growing, large, coarse, herbaceous but woody at the base, arising from a fleshy root that becomes enlarged with age, and climbing trees to a height of 33 to 50 ft (10-15 m) or even 150 ft (45 m) in Java. It has thick 4-angled stems prominently winged on the angles, and axillary tendrils to 12 in (30 cm) long, flanked by leaflike, ovate or ovate-lanceolate stipules 3/4 to 1 3/8 in(2-3.5 cm) long, sometimes faintly toothed. The alternate leaves are broad-ovate or oblong-ovate, 3 1/4 to 6 in (8.25-15 cm) wide, 4 to 8 in (10-20 cm) long; rounded or cordate at the base, abruptly pointed at the apex, sometimes toothed near the base; thin, with conspicuous veins sunken on the upper surface, prominent beneath. The solitary, fragrant flowers, up to 4 3/4 or 5 in (12-12.5 cm) wide, have a bell-shaped calyx, the 5 sepals greenish or reddish-green on the outside, white, pink or purple inside; the 5 petals, to 1 3/4 in (4.5 cm) long, white-and-pink; the corona filaments 2-ranked, to 2 3/8 in (6 cm) long, purple-and-white below, blue in the middle, and pinkish-blue above, around the typical complex of pistil, style and stigmas.

The pleasantly aromatic, melon-like fruit is oblong-ovoid, 4 3/4 to 6 in (12-15 cm) wide, and 8 to 12 in (10-30 cm) long; may be faintly ribbed or longitudinally 3-lobed; has a thin, delicate skin, greenish-white to pale- or deep-yellow, often blushed with pink. Beneath it is a layer of firm, mealy, white or pink flesh, 1 to 1 1/2 in (2.5-4 cm) thick, of very mild flavor, and coated with a parchment-like material on the inner surface. The central cavity contains some juice and masses of whitish, yellowish, partly yellow or purple-pink, sweet-acid arils (commonly referred to as the pulp), enclosing flattened-oval, purplish-brown seeds to 1/2 in (1.25 cm) long. [source - retrieved from on //2013]

Pollination
The vine may produce few or no fruits in a dry atmosphere, or in the absence of insect pollinators. Also the pollen may ripen before the stigma is ready to receive it, and, at times, bees may steal the pollen too early in the morning. Hand-pollination is regularly practiced in Queensland and has been successful in limited experiments in Florida. It should be done in the late morning, no later than 4 to 6 hours after the flowers open.

Climate
The ideal climate for the giant granadilla is one that is truly tropical, warm both day and night, with little fluctuation, and with high humidity. It is grown between 700 and 1,500 ft (213 and 457 m) elevations in Jamaica and Hawaii, and up to 3,000 ft (914 m) in India; to 5,000 or, at most, 7,200 ft (1,800 or 2,200 m) in Ecuador. Vines several years old have been killed by winter cold on the Riviera.

Soil
For maximum growth and productivity, the vine requires deep, fertile, moist but well-drained soil. Australians have observed good growth on volcanic, alluvial, and sandy soil, and even decomposed granite. Vines planted in highly alkaline situations in Israel have died after evidencing acute chlorosis.

Propagation
The giant granadilla grows readily from seeds, which germinate in 2 to 3 weeks and the seedlings can be set out when 6 to 12 in (15-30 cm) high. Cuttings of mature wood 10 to 12 in (25-30 cm) or even 2 to 3 ft (.6-.9 m) long, are partially defoliated and deeply planted in well-watered sand. There will be sufficient vegetative growth and root development to permit transplanting in 30 days. Air- or ground-layers are also satisfactory.

Culture
In commercial plantings in Indonesia, the vines are set 6.5 to 10 ft (2-3 m) apart each way. When the plants reach about 6.5 ft (2 m) in height, they must be trained to a strong, horizontal trellis. Pruning may be necessary if the growth becomes too dense. Regular applications of fertilizer high in organic matter, and copious watering are necessary. [source - retrieved from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passiflora_quadrangularis on 1/09/2013]

In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

Giant green to yellow passion fruit reaching over one foot in diameter. Pulp is not as flavorful as the common passion fruit, but still tasty and often eaten or used in drinks.

Growing Environment: Loves the warm humid tropics, but will not stand flooding. Protect from freezing temperatures. Fruit forms best after self-pollination. [source - retrieved from http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/giant_granadilla.htm on 1/09/2013]

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[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 576A]

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:21, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, and the Bible goes on to say at Matthew 24:22, [AV] “And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.” And Revelation gives more insight when it mentions those who will come forth at that time from the earth at Revelation 7:13 - 15, [AV] “And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.” And book of Daniel gives us further insight on the subject of what will occur at the conclusion of the end times at Daniel 12:1, [AV] “And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.”

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[2] LEARNING IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF CHRISTIAN LIFE:

Many do not realize that learning is an essential part of element of Christian life. This is made clear at Psalms 1:1-3, "1 Blessed is the man who hath not walked in the counsel of the ungodly, nor stood in the way of sinners, nor sat in the chair of pestilence: 2 But his will is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he shall meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree which is planted near the running waters, which shall bring forth its fruit, in due season. And his leaf shall not fall off: and all whatsoever he shall do shall prosper." (Douay Rheims Catholic Bible; DRCB), and Jesus (Yeshua ) made this quite clear when he said at Matthew 22:29, "You are mistaken, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God." (The New English Bible; NEB). This was also made clear at Mark 12:24 by Jesus (Yeshua) when he said, "And Jesus answering, saith to them: Do ye not therefore err, because you know not the scriptures nor the power of God?" (DRCB).

Yet it is important that when we study the scriptures, we have an open mind willing to accept the truth as revealed in God's (YHWH's) word. Not all that read the Bible do as Jesus (Yeshua) pointed out to the religious leaders of his day who were oppossing him when he testified at John 5:39, "You study the scriptures diligently, supposing that in having them you have eternal life; yet, althouth their testimony points to me, you refuse to come to me for that life." (NEB). Likewise, there are those today who study the scriptures diligently, but due to a closed mind, never come to know the truth. Often these types spend many years in colloges and seminaries, and yet still believe pagan doctrines such as the Trinity and that the Virgin Mary remained ever a virgin. Clearly these ones are like those Jesus (Yeshua) spoke to at John 5:39, clearly as Jesus (Yeshua) said at John 5:41-43, "41 I receive not glory from men. 42 But I know you, that you have not the love of God in you. 43 I am come in the name of my Father, and you receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him you will receive." (DRCB). Clearly they do not give credit to Jesus (Yeshua) or his Father (YHWH), but to someone who comes in his own name.

They overlook what Jesus (Yeshua) said at John 14:28, "You have heard that I said to you: I go away, and I come unto you. If you loved me you would indeed be glad, because I go to the Father: for the Father is greater than I." (DRCB; and at John 5:19, "Then Jesus answered and said to them: Amen, amen, I say unto you, the Son cannot do any thing of himself, but what he seeth the Father doing: for what things soever he doth, these the Son also doth in like manner." (DRCB). These two scriptures clearly show that the Trinity is false doctrine since Jesus (Yeshua) shows that his Father (YHWH) is the greater one and that the Son, Jesus (Yeshua) cannot do a single thing of his own initiative; hence, no co-equality here as required by the false pagan doctrine of the trinity.

Also, the Beble clearly says at Matthew 12:46, "He was still speaking to the crowd when his mother and brothers appeared;" (NEB). These so called learned ones will then argue that these were not actually his brothers [half brothers], but cousins. However, even history shows otherwise, Flavius Josephus, wrote, "...Albinis was but upon the road; so he assembled the sanhedrin of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others...formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned..." [source = "The Life and Works of Flavius Josephus," translated by William Winston, AM; The John C. Winston Co., page 598].

APPENDIX;

Let us see what the NWT said about the Greek Grammar as applied by
them to John 1:1c:

These translations use such words as "a god," "divine" or "godlike"
because the Greek word #952;#949;#972;#962; (the•os´) is a singular
predicate noun occurring before the verb and is not preceded by the
definite article. This is an anarthrous the•os´. The God with whom
the Word, or Logos, was originally is designated here by the Greek
expression #959; #952;#949;#972;#962;, that is, the•os´ preceded by
the definite article ho. This is an articular the•os´. Careful
translators recognize that the articular construction of the noun
points to an identity, a personality, whereas a singular anarthrous
predicate noun preceding the verb points to a quality about someone.
Therefore, John's statement that the Word or Logos was "a god" or
"divine" or "godlike" does not mean that he was the God with whom he
was. It merely expresses a certain quality about the Word, or Logos,
but it does not identify him as one and the same as God himself.

In the Greek text there are many cases of a singular anarthrous
predicate noun preceding the verb, such as in Mr 6:49; 11:32; Joh
4:19; 6:70; 8:44; 9:17; 10:1, 13, 33; 12:6. In these places
translators insert the indefinite article "a" before the predicate
noun in order to bring out the quality or characteristic of the
subject. Since the indefinite article is inserted before the
predicate noun in such texts, with equal justification the indefinite
article "a" is inserted before the anarthrous #952;#949;#972;#962; in
the predicate of John 1:1 to make it read "a god." The Sacred
Scriptures confirm the correctness of this rendering.

Following is a list of instances in the gospels of Mark and John
where various translators have rendered singular anarthrous predicate
nouns occurring before the verb with an indefinite article to denote
the indefinite and qualitative status of the subject nouns: Reference
Bible NWT 6A. (Emphasis added)

To condense this issue, the NWT is saying that John1:1c should be
translated as "Indefinite" and refers to "quality" or the
"characteristic" of the subject. The word "theos" is in the predicate
position, which tells you something about the subject and precedes
the verb. This is known as "an anathrous predicate noun, proceeding
the verb."

Let us consider whether such terms exist in Greek grammar to describe
a noun (Theos/ God) that is "anathrous", meaning it is not proceeded
by the definite article ( 'O/The) and is in the "predicate" position
(says something about the subject (Logos/Word). Can such a noun be
translated as "indefinite" such as "a man" etc.

Is this Grammatically correct?

Consider:

(2) there is no indefinite article in Greek. Thus we see that
anthropos, means "man" or "a man". It does not , however , mean "the
man" because the Greek does have a definite article.... The Greek
article is used to point out particular identity. This is called the
"articular" use of a noun or other substantive. When no definite
article is used with the noun (or other substantive), it is called
"anathrous' use. The anathrous construction is used to indicate
quality or characteristics." Essentials of New Testament Greek, Ray
Summers (student of H.E. Dana), Chairman Dept of Religion Baylor
University, Waco Texas, 1950 Pg 16. (emphasis added)

"...the article is therefore ..., the definite article....It is a pointer...
Whenever the Greek article occurs, the object is certainly definite.
When it is not used, the object may or may not be definite..." ... "But
the rule holds whoever the subject has the article and the predicate
does not. The subject is then definite and distributed, the predicate
indefinite and undistributed." ... "The word may be either definite or
indefinite when the article is absent..." " in the predicate the
article is often absent. This is the rule unless the terms are
convertible or the predicate is singled out as prominent." A.T.
Robertson, A GRAMMAR OF THE GREEK NEW TESTAMENT IN THE LIGHT OF
HISTORICAL RESEARCH, 1934, pgs 756, 767, 794 (emphasis added)

The predicate [noun] commonly refers not to an individual or
individuals as such, but to the class to which the subject belongs,
to the nature or quality predicated of the subject; e.g. Jo I, 1 [kai
theos en ho logos], which attributes to the Word the divine
nature,-Maximilian Zerwich, S.J., Biblical Greek, Rome, Scriptua
Pontificii Instituti Biblici (Pontifical Biblical Scripture
Institute), p. 55.(emphasis added)

From this we see that the NWT has used proper terminology and has
translated in harmony with Greek Grammar. It is not "bad grammar" at
all. Nor does it ignore the basic tenets or show "intellectual
dishonesty". Nouns without the article in the predicate position can
be, and generally are, translated as indefinite and are used to
describe, the class, quality or characteristics of the subject.

This raises the question of why any of the above would say it is bad
grammar, etc? Are they that ignorant of Biblical Greek, or are they
dishonest in their representations of the facts? You decide, as we
carry this further.

Next we will examine point #2 to see if the NWT has used "Bad
Grammar" specifically in John 1:1c. Do the above statements apply to
John1;1c, indicating that the NWT has properly applied the rules.

To clarify the position of John 1:1c from the perspective of Greek
grammar, it is necessary to cover some basic rules of the Language.
In Greek nouns can be either:

1. Definite.

2. Indefinite .

3. Qualitative.

What do Jehovah's Witnesses say about this scripture and how the
translate it?

These translations use such words as "a god," "divine" or "godlike"
because the Greek word #952;#949;#972;#962; (the•os´) is a singular
predicate noun occurring before the verb and is not preceded by the
definite article. This is an anarthrous the•os´. The God with whom
the Word, or Logos, was originally is designated here by the Greek
expression #959; #952;#949;#972;#962;, that is, the•os´ preceded by
the definite article ho. This is an articular the•os´. Careful
translators recognize that the articular construction of the noun
points to an identity, a personality, whereas a singular anarthrous
predicate noun preceding the verb points to a quality about someone.
Therefore, John's statement that the Word or Logos was "a god" or
"divine" or "godlike" does not mean that he was the God with whom he
was. It merely expresses a certain quality about the Word, or Logos,
but it does not identify him as one and the same as God himself.

In the Greek text there are many cases of a singular anarthrous
predicate noun preceding the verb, such as in Mr 6:49; 11:32; Joh
4:19; 6:70; 8:44; 9:17; 10:1, 13, 33; 12:6. In these places
translators insert the indefinite article "a" before the predicate
noun in order to bring out the quality or characteristic of the
subject. Since the indefinite article is inserted before the
predicate noun in such texts, with equal justification the indefinite
article "a" is inserted before the anarthrous #952;#949;#972;#962; in
the predicate of John 1:1 to make it read "a god." The Sacred
Scriptures confirm the correctness of this rendering.

Following is a list of instances in the gospels of Mark and John
where various translators have rendered singular anarthrous predicate
nouns occurring before the verb with an indefinite article to denote
the indefinite and qualitative status of the subject nouns: Refernce
Bible NWT 6A. (Emphasis added)

Note "indefinite and qualitative" In other words 2b.

The first point the is that Jehovah's Witnesses do not indicate that
Jesus is "another God". They say he is "a god," "divine" or "godlike"

Is this truly in harmony with the Greek language?

Consider:

B. F. Westcott: "The predicate (God) stands emphatically first,
as in v.24. It is necessarily without the article (theos not ho
theos) inasmuch as it describes the nature of the Word and does not
identify His Person... (Your reference rejecting #1 and this is 2a.)

Philip B. Harner: "Perhaps the clause could be translated, 'the
Word had the same nature as God." This would be one way of
representing John's thought, which is, as I understand it, that ho
logos, no less than ho theos, had the nature of theos."
"Qualitative Anarthrous Predicate Nouns: Mark 15:39 and John
1:1," Journal of Biblical Literature, 92, 1 (March 1973, p. 87.
(your quote rejecting #1 and this is 2a.)

C. K. Barrett: "The absence of the article indicates that the
Word is God, but is not the only being of whom this is true; if ho
theos had been written it would have implied that no divine being
existed outside the second person of the Trinity." The Gospel
According to St. John (S.P.C.K., 1955), p.76. (Your quote. (Totally
rejects #1 )

There is no basis for regarding the predicate theos as definite...In
John 1:1 I think that the qualitative force of the predicate [noun]
is so prominent that the noun cannot be regarded as definite.-Philip
Harner, Journal of Biblical Literature, Vol. 92:1, 1973, pp. 85, 7.
(Totally rejects #1 and 2a and agrees with the WT on 2b.)

We must, then take Theos, without the article, in the indefinite
["qualitative" would have been a better word choice] sense of a
divine nature or a divine being, as distinguished from the definite
absolute God [the Father], ho Theos, the authotheos [selfgod] of
Origen. Thus the Theos of John [1:1c] answers to "the image of God''
of Paul, Col. 1:15.-G. Lucke, "Dissertation on the Logos", quoted by
John Wilson in, Unitarian Principles Confirmed by Trinitarian
Testimonies, p. 428. (Totally rejects #1 and 2a and agrees with the
WT on 2b.)

There is a distinction in the Greek here between 'with God' and
'God'. In the first instance the article is used and this makes the
reference specific. In the second instance there in no article and it
is difficult to believe that the omission is not significant. In
effect it gives an adjectival quality to the second use of Theos so
the phrase means 'The Word was divine'.-The Translator's New
Testament, p. 451. (Totally rejects #1 and 2a and agrees with the WT
on 2b.)

It would be impossible to speak about Jesus without considering the
words of John's 'Gospel: "The Word was God". The Greek of that phrase
is Theos en ho logos. This does not mean Word was God. ... There is
noting strange about this. We do the very same in English. When in
English, or in Greek, a noun does to have the definite article, it
becomes the equivalent of an adjective. ... So then, what the Greek
really says [means] in not "The Word was God," but "The word is in
the same sphere as God; it belongs to the same kind of life
[spiritual life] and is one with God [cp. John 17:20-23 on "one"].
William Barclay, Who Is Jesus, Tidings, Nashville, Tennessee, U.S.A.,
1975, pp. 35-6. (basically is rejecting #1 and is unclear about 2a or
2b.)

The rule holds wherever the subject has the article and the predicate
does not. The subject is then definite and distributed, the predicate
indefinite and undistributed.-A.T. Robertson, A Grammar of the Greek
New Testament in the Light of Historical Research, fourth edition,
1934, p. 767. (Agrees with 2b and the WT)

The predicate [noun] commonly refers not to an individual or
individuals as such, but to the class to which the subject belongs,
to the nature or quality predicated of the subject; e.g. Jo I, 1 [kai
theos en ho logos], which attributes to the Word the divine
nature,-Maximilian Zerwich, S.J., Biblical Greek, Rome, Scriptua
Pontificii Instituti Biblici (Pontifical Biblical Scripture
Institute), p. 55. ( Rejects #1 and agrees with 2b as does the WT)

In John 1:1...Theos en ("was deity");...The qualitative force is
obvious and most important,-Alfred M. Perry, "Translating The Greek
Article" in Journal of Biblical Literature, 1949, Vol. l68, p.
331.(Totally rejects #1 and 2a and agrees with the WT on 2b.)

Accordingly, from the point of view of grammar alone, [theos en ho
logos] could be rendered "the word was a god." This leads me to
affirm that one may not infer (as is often done) from [E.C. Cowell's]
rule 2b [Journal of Biblical Literature, "A Definite Rule for the Use
of the Article in the Greek New Testament", 1933, Vol. 53, pp. 17-21]
that anarthrous predicate nouns which precede the verb are usually
definite. Indeed, such nouns will usually be qualitative in
emphasis.-Murray J. Harris, Jesus as God, Grand Rapids, Baker Book
House, 1992, pp. 60, 312. .(Totally rejects #1 and 2a and agrees with
the WT on 2b)
"R." <ditchbilly@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Hey all! Russ here again.I just wan't to take a moment to thank
Hollis and Paul for their input on my inquirey.It was most
encouraging.Paul I can't wait to read that book.Guaranteed sale right
here.
Now in all honesty the woman that I was refering to did put up a link
to a site that had quotes from "scholars" bashing the NWT.I
have been trying to find that link but haven't as of yet.It was a
link to the blueletter bible I think.Here is one that I found just
looking around
www.hyperbible.com/articles/jw4.asp
here's another www.bible.ca/Jw-NWT.htm If anyone
would care to comment on these sites or the individuals mentioned
within then I would love to hear it.Not that any of this bothers me
or anything.I just find it interesting.Anyone want a good idea for a
book?Write one about all of the biblical "scholars" with
their ups and downs.Sort of like a who's who.Give them all a rating
from best to worse.Stand back and watch the fur fly.THAT would be
interesting.
Anyhow,as I mentioned before I asked this woman about the hands in
pocket thing as well as about the credentials of these scholars but
never got an answer.Come to think of it I'm still waiting on answers
from her regarding several issues.Her usual excuses are "I'm
behind"or "I missed it" or usually no answer at
all.For about a month or more I have been waiting on an answer to one
simple question.How can you call Witnesses "wrong" for
refering to a bible that was written by a
"spiritist"(Greber) yet at the same time you have no
problem refering to a bible that was written by a
sadistic,homosexual,necrophilic,tyranic beastphile?(James 1st)Still
waiting! If anyone has any views on James then I would welcome those
also.
By the way just in case anyone is wondering all of this is on the
infamous "gathering" site.Bashers galore! Well thanks again
y'all!-Russ

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Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests, 15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver. 16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him. Matthew 26:14 – 16, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Here Judas Iscariot had once been a faithful follower of Jesus (Yeshua), but had let his heart become hardened as revealed by Hebrews 3:13 – 15, [AV] “But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; 15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.” We should all follow the admonition given at 3 John 11, [AV] “Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.”

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INTRODUCTION:

Today Biblically prohibited sexual relations are viewed by many as tactilely okay. Should this come as a surprise? NO! The Apostle Paul writing to the disciple Timothy from Rome wrote, “I charge thee, before God and Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead, by his coming and his kingdom: 2 Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season: reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience and doctrine. 3 For there shall be a time when they will not endure sound doctrine but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers having itching ears: 4 And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables. 5 But be thou vigilant, labour in all things, do the work of an evangelist, fulfil thy ministry. Be sober. 6 For I am even now ready to be sacrificed: and the time of my dissolution is at hand. 2 Timothy 4:1-6 [Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible: DRCB]

What the Apostle Paul wrote to Timothy is now taking place, but should this come as a surprise? Let’s investigate reality.

REALITY

Many are fooling themselves, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest, and/or ministers, and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is in most cases their distortion of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an which governs how people of their flock believe and/or act. It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say. People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders and their associates. Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope, what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, " Thou shalt not kill." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible: DRCB), but what their religious leaders and associates told them. Therefore, it is the religion at fault, regardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say. Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the distortions of their religious leaders and associates. Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it. Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian.

Both the Bible and the Bible knockoff, the Quran, strictly condemn sexual relations between members of the SAME GENDER and with animals, but many so called Christians and members of Islam either openly and/or tacitly approve of it and call it just another life style. Yes, of course it is another life style the same as being a pedophile is, but both are evil deviant life styles following depraved form of sex that the Devil has successfully lured them into, and they have failed to resist.

In fact, “The Pope’s new Spanish Cardinal has called homosexuality a physical “defect” that can be cured, it has been reported.

Equating homosexuality to his own high blood pressure, Fernando Sebastián told the Spanish newspaperDiario Sur on Monday that: “Homosexuality is a defective manner of expressing sexuality, because [sex] has a structure and a purpose, which is procreation.” [source - retrieved from http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-new-spanish-cardinal-brands-homosexuality-a-defect-that-can-be-cured-9072390.html on 2/12/2014]

Many so called mainline religions such as many Protestant and Orthodox and Islam have given either tacit and/or full approval of such wicked conduct that the Devil has been tempting mankind with.

For example, In the February 9, 2014 issue of the Palm Beach Post appeared an article, “Methodists in crisis over gay marriage.” Some members of their clergy defy church law on the subject, but more important they are defying the clear word of Almighty God (YHWH). For one thing, the article said, “The dispute among United Methodist over recognition of same-sex couples has lapsed into a doctrinal donnybrook, pitting clergy who are presiding at gay weddings in defiance of church law against proponents of traditional marriage who are trying to stop them.” Interestingly, no where does the article mention this activity is completely contrary to Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) law. In other words concern over church doctrine is getting in the way of complying with God’s Law.

And Islam while openly claiming it is against such wicked actions tacitly gives its approval by failure to take action against its members running one of the largest homosexual sites on the Internet, www.gayegypt.com, which is the ‘mouth piece’ for many correspondent groups including one purported to be selling a pictorial calendar of the month featuring rear ends.

Here is an example of one statement on www.gayegypt.com, “Can you believe it ? Egypt will have a National Kissing Day on Friday 30th August. Cairo and Alexandria each have several hundred confirmed as attending as does the small Delta town of Zagazig !” … “But if you are a gay man why not hang around and if you see there is a sufficiently large crowd of young guys you might end up “forced” to kiss some Romeo. And it will be a day to go down in history. The more passionate part of me (political and romantic) is asking “Can anyone afford to miss it ?”

TACIT AND OPEN APPROVAL OF WICKED ACTIONS

As can be seen, many so called Christian religions, actually counterfeit followers of Christ, and many is Islam tacitly or openly approve of these wicked actions; to wit, same gender sex and/or sex with animals. Why? Because they have NOT resisted Satan the Devil’s temptations. In fact, some of these counterfeit so called Christian groups have even openly made bishops out of ones giving into evil temptations instead of resisting them as they should.

The news shows, “Sexual orientation is no longer a barrier to ordination in the Evangelical Church of the Union (EKU), the German ancestor of the UCC's Evangelical tradition. Its territory includes the capital city of the Protestant Reformation—Luther's Wittenberg. Homosexuals also can be ordained in the Reformed churches of Germany and Switzerland, the forebears of the UCC's Reformed tradition. The city once known as the "Reformed Rome"—John Calvin's Geneva—is no longer hostile territory for lesbians and gays called to Christian ministry.

Most of the historic Lutheran and Reformed churches in Germany and northern Europe now welcome homosexuals into ordained ministry.
Europe heads the list with 19 churches where homosexuals can be legally ordained. But several denominations in Africa, North America and the Pacific are also joining the trend, including the Anglican church in South Africa formerly led by Archbishop Desmond Tutu, the United Church of Canada, the Episcopal Church in the U.S. and the Uniting Church in Australia.” [source - retrieved from http://www.ucc.org/ucnews/june2002/global-trend-worlds-oldest.html on 2/12/2014]

THE REAL REALITY – THE CONCLUSION

Clearly the evil action by many religions of either tacitly and/or openly approving of these wicked actions is due to the Devil induced misleading of most including religious leaders of believing they can pick and choose what to accept in Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) word, the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff, the Quran just as they might select what they might want to make out of a recipe book. However, the Bible is NOT a recipe book, but Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) book of guidance into how we should live our lives. His genuine true followers instead of selecting only parts of it seek to live by it, and NOT put on a false façade of piety.

APPENDIX:
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Galatians 5:19

This scripture clearly shows, many life styles are NOT approved by Almighty God (YHWH), and this REALITY is further highlighted at 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” (Authorized King James Bible; (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

And this is made even more clear at Romans 1:19-29, “Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,” [AV]

And for men to want other men for forbidden sexual pleasures has always been wrong as shown By Leviticus 18:22-24, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:” [AV]

And by Jude 7-8, “Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (none existence) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.” [AV]

And by Leviticus 20:13, “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” [AV] (this shows a principle as we are no longer under the ancient Old Law Covenant made with the ancient nation of Israel.)

Now this in no way gives anyone the right to judge or harass others as shown by Leviticus 19:17-18, “Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.” [AV]

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And Ruth said, Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God: 17 Where thou diest, will I die, and there will I be buried: the LORD do so to me, and more also, if ought but death part thee and me. Ruth 1:16 – 17, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Ruth stayed with her mother-in-law Naomi, and followed her directions. Her life took a turn for the better when a rich man, a distant relative of Naomi saw her as a good person and made arrangements to be her repurchaser per Ruth 4:4 - 10, [AV] “And I thought to advertise thee, saying, Buy it before the inhabitants, and before the elders of my people. If thou wilt redeem it, redeem it: but if thou wilt not redeem it, then tell me, that I may know: for there is none to redeem it beside thee; and I am after thee. And he said, I will redeem it. 5 Then said Boaz, What day thou buyest the field of the hand of Naomi, thou must buy it also of Ruth the Moabitess, the wife of the dead, to raise up the name of the dead upon his inheritance. 6 And the kinsman said, I cannot redeem it for myself, lest I mar mine own inheritance: redeem thou my right to thyself; for I cannot redeem it. 7 Now this was the manner in former time in Israel concerning redeeming and concerning changing, for to confirm all things; a man plucked off his shoe, and gave it to his neighbour: and this was a testimony in Israel. 8 Therefore the kinsman said unto Boaz, Buy it for thee. So he drew off his shoe. 9 And Boaz said unto the elders, and unto all the people, Ye are witnesses this day, that I have bought all that was Elimelech’s, and all that was Chilion’s and Mahlon’s, of the hand of Naomi. 10 Moreover Ruth the Moabitess, the wife of Mahlon, have I purchased to be my wife, to raise up the name of the dead upon his inheritance, that the name of the dead be not cut off from among his brethren, and from the gate of his place: ye are witnesses this day.” And she became one of the ancestors of Jesus (Yeshua).

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[2] THE TRINITY OF REALITY:

Be Reasonable and Accept Reality And Truth

Let's look at a few equations and their explanation and learn some Truths and Reality:

NO PROPHET == NO PROPHECY

You can NOT have prophecy without a prophet; a prophet is someone for whom infallibility is claimed under some circumstance such as ex Cathedra or direct communications/revelations from/with a deity, like an oracle, a pope, or a prophet. Now the JWs have none of these, thus no prophecy can come from their group; its just that simple, no need to consider cases of failed prophecy as without a prophet failed prophecy is IMPOSSIBLE.

NO THREE OF A CLASS == NO TRINITY OF ANY KIND

Many claim and use eloquent reasoning's such as predicate nouns, and very involved argumentation, etc. and go on for yak, yak pages with their hermeneutic twisting and distortion, but without there being three of a class at John 1:1, a Trinity of any kind is just plain IMPOSSIBLE.

NO IDOL OF ANY KIND == NO IDOLATRY

You must create/have an idol of some kind to have idolatry as shown at Isaiah 44:14-20, " He hath cut down cedars, taken the holm, and the oak that stood among the trees of the forest: he hath planted the pine tree, which the rain hath nourished. 15 And it hath served men for fuel: he took thereof, and warmed himself: and he kindled it, and baked bread: but of the rest he made a god, and adored it: he made a graven thing, and bowed down before it. 16 Part of it he burnt with fire, and with part of it he dressed his meat: he boiled pottage, and was filled, and was warmed, and said: Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire. 17 But the residue thereof he made a god, and a graven thing for himself: he boweth down before it, and adoreth it, and prayeth unto it, saying: Deliver me, for thou art my God. 18 They have not known, nor understood: for their eyes are covered that they may not see, and that they may not understand with their heart. 19 They do not consider in their mind, nor know, nor have the thought to say: I have burnt part of it in the fire, and I have baked bread upon the coals thereof: I have broiled flesh and have eaten, and of the residue thereof shall I make an idol? shall I fall down before the stock of a tree? 20 Part thereof is ashes: his foolish heart adoreth it, and he will not save his soul, nor say: Perhaps there is a lie in my right hand. 21 Remember these things, O Jacob," (Douay Rheims Catholic Bible; DRCB).
Now, what is the point of all of this? Simple, one should DO NOT worry about the IMPOSSIBLE. No matter how eloquent the argument and proofs for it, it is still IMPOSSIBLE and just a myth of the imagination that thinking individuals should give no heed to.

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[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 579A]

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them. Deuteronomy 30:19 – 20, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

This scripture deals with a difficult time for Almighty God’s (YHWH’s)people in that they were given a choice of winning His favor or going after and following the many false gods of the people around them as they were about to cross the Jordan into the promise land. And
Deuteronomy 32:47, [AV] “For it is not a vain thing for you; because it is your life: and through this thing ye shall prolong your days in the land, whither ye go over Jordan to possess it.” Brings out the important choice they must make. They could choose to serve the True God or the false puppet gods of Satan the Devil of the nations per Joshua 24:15, [AV] “And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.” As the Prophet Jeremiah so succinctly put it, they could per Jeremiah 32:39, [AV] “And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them:” Yes, as shown at Deuteronomy 4:4, [AV] “But ye that did cleave unto the LORD your God are alive every one of you this day.” It was important to be totally with the True God, and what they had to do to do this is given at Deuteronomy 4:40, [AV] “Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever.” And the True God did per Genesis 17:7, [AV] “And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.”

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[2] FROM LIFE TO DEATH TO LIFE!

To fully understand what happens to mankind at death, we must understand first how man got here in the first place, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." (Genesis 1:27-31, Authorized King James Bible: (AV) shows that God created mankind and every living thing on the earth. Man was originally intended by God to live for ever so what happened? "And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." (Genesis 2:16-17, AV) However, Adam, the first man, disobeyed God and all of mankind inherited Death as a result, "And the serpent (Satan the Devil) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:4-5, AV), and " And the LORD God said unto the serpent (Satan the Devil), Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:" (Genesis 3:14, AV). Therefore, eventuality of Death came upon all of mankind that descended from Adam, all of us; it was NOT God's original purpose for mankind, " Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12, AV). But God loved mankind and provided a means for obedient mankind to eventually have this sentence lifted from him/her, " For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)" (Romans 5:17, AV) and " For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." (Romans 5:19, AV). Now that we have seen how Death came to be on mankind, we need to look at the condition of the dead to understand what happens when one dies, " His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." (Psalms 146:4. AV), " For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten" (Ecclesiastes 9:5, AV), " Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest." (Ecclesiastes 9:10, AV), and "For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. 20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again." (Ecclesiastes 3:19-20, AV). There is no 'soul' that goes somewhere at death since we are living souls, " And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7, AV), " And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam (Jesus) was made a quickening spirit." (1 Corinthians 15:45, AV), " And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." (1 Corinthians 15:45, AV). The Bible clearly shows that, " Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." (Ezekiel 18:4, AV), and " And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people." (Acts 3:23, AV). Therefore, when we die we cease to exist, but God holds out to all obedient mankind a hope for a resurrection onto a perfect earth under his kingdom, "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven." (Matthew 6:9-10, AV). Clearly there is hope for life again in a righteous kingdom under Jesus on earth as he taught us to prey for, but how will we get into this kingdom when it is established if we are already dead, i.e., non-existent in any form? It will be by means of a resurrection or recreating of us by God, " Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead." (Isaiah 26:19, AV) and " O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!" (Job 14:13, AV). "But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living." (Matthew 22:31-32, AV), " But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days." (Daniel 12:13, AV) This concept of a resurrection may be difficult for some to accept, but temporary resurrections have already occurred, "And it came to pass, as they sat at the table, that the word of the LORD came unto the prophet that brought him back: 21 And he cried unto the man of God that came from Judah, saying, Thus saith the LORD, Forasmuch as thou hast disobeyed the mouth of the LORD, and hast not kept the commandment which the LORD thy God commanded thee," (1 Kings 17:22-24, AV), " These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth." (Hebrews 11:13, AV). However what Jesus Christ taught all of his followers to pray for "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven." (Matthew 6:9-10, AV) was a permanent resurrection into a righteous kingdom under him as its king, and this will be "And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." (John 6:39-40, AV), "Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. 24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:" (John 11:23-24, AV), " And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust." (Acts 24:15 AV), and "For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. 30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." (John 5:26-29, AV). Therefore, it is clear that at present all of mankind will die, be non-existent until the end of this system when Jesus Christ will set up his kingdom on earth, and then, if we have won God's favor be resurrected to life in a righteous kingdom under Jesus Christ as its king.

APPENDIX: Genesis 3:1-24:

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 ¶ And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 ¶ And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
11 ¶ And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 ¶ And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
16 ¶ Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
17 ¶ And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
20 ¶ And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
21 ¶ Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
22 ¶ And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

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COMBINATION OF THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND THE RARE FRUIT TREES AND VEGETABLES. With the Scripture of the Day first.

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 580A]

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Revelation 4:11, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

And the Apostle Luke noted a vision he saw as follows at Acts 7:55, [AV] “But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,” Yes, the Bible speaks of Almighty God (YHWH) as the Ancient of Days, and Daniel said, Daniel 7:9, [AV] “I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.” And the Apostle John noted at
1 John 1:5, [AV] “This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.” And all should gain understanding per Revelation 2:11, [AV] “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically gin or orangeberry, Glycosmis pentaphylla.

Scientific classification

Angiosperms
(unranked):
Eudicots
(unranked):
Rosids
Order:
Sapindales
Family:
Rutaceae
Subfamily:
Aurantioideae
Tribe:
Clauseneae
Genus:
Glycosmis
Species:
G. pentaphylla
Binomial name
Glycosmis pentaphylla
(Retz.)

DC.
Orangeberry (Glycosmis pentaphylla), sometimes referred to as gin berry, is a species of plant that ranges through Southeast Asia and Northern Australia. It is in the Rutaceae, the same plant family as citrus plants. It is cultivated for its edible pink fruits. In temperate zones, it can be cultivated indoors as a houseplant. [source - retrieved from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangeberry on 5/23/2013]

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Orangeberry, Glycosmis pentaphylla

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/orangeberry.htmI made mention of this plant on the end of anther thread recently, but figured maybe I should start a thread on it too. One person responded they where pleased the get some local results on the plant.

I got my seed from Tradewinds Fruit some years ago, and the plants are still in 5 gallon pots, just transfer a slow developer into a 5 gallon pot a year ago and it is growing well, think it got a lot less sun in different location and is not catching up in size. The other two are almost like 5 feet tall including the pot. They year they bloomed, this year they are blooming like crazy and setting fruit sparingly. I wanted to see what the fruit was like, to see if I even wanted to put them in the ground, plus want more size to handle the cold. They take very minor damage most winters, with only a frost cloth over the top, but with the sides not covered., at least down to the mid 20s.When smaller in 2007 when it dropped to 21F preceded by 14 hours below 32F, they were smaller and under the open air patio roof or plant shade house.

Now that I have tried the fruit, and they are 80% seed and the rest split between juice and a less then thin, not so chew able skin, I want to plant them now. I figure the fruit berry size should go up, and even be sweeter and better tasting in the ground. Not a lot of juice, but the taste is different, very sweet and good. Not something to fill up on, but a very nice pleasant treat as you walk out i the garden.

My berries are not quite 1/2 wide and not quite 1/4 inch thick, but they are only in a 5 gallon pot, and the plants are only less then 5 feet actual height and a couple feet wide. I find that if a plant sets good fruit in a pot, it is always much better in the ground. It has a nick name of Gin Berry, so that must mean something, either they use it for the taste or the sugar.

I was surprised to find a number of hits on a google search, when I got them years ago, there was none other then TWF were I got the seeds. Was surprised, even found a University of CA Riverside hit. http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/glycosmis.html

They seem a bit more cold sensitive then a regular Citrus, but otherwise seems to have about the same requirements. You can chew the skin and swallow it, but I choose so far to spit it out while eating them in my yard; saving the seeds so far of course. Two good qualifies other then good tasting, sets fruit while and in a pot. that only means they get better in the ground. Oh I guess 3, grows decently fast too. [source - by DavidLJ48 » Fri Jul 29, 2011as retrieved from http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/gardening/orangeberry-glycosmis-pentaphylla-t1452.html on 5/23/2013]

In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] HELL? WHAT REALLY IS THE BIBLICAL HELL?

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 581A]

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Romans 1:20 – 21, [AV]

Clearly many fail to appreciate Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) power and that He created all there is, but the wise do as the Apostle Paul showed in his letter to Timothy as testified to at 1 Timothy 1:17, [AV] “Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.” And the Prophet Isaiah revealed the same reality at Isaiah 40:21, [AV] “Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?” Yes, He created all things once more testified to at Isaiah 40:26, [AV] “Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.” And this is also noted at 2 Peter 1:3, [AV] “According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:”
Therefore, He is per Revelation 4:11, [AV] “Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.” It is imperative that we per Psalms 50:23, [AV] “Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God.”

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[2] HELL? WHAT REALLY IS THE BIBLICAL HELL?

For different people this question, What Really Is The Biblical Hell? Brings different things or images to mind. Hell is generally thought of as a place of punishment for sin. Concerning sin and its effect, the Bible shows, " That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 5:21, AV).
In addition, the Bible also state: " For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23, AV). As the punishment for sin is death, the fundamental question in determining the true nature of hell is: What happens to us when we die ?
Does life of some kind, in some form, continue after death? What is hell, and what type of people go there ? What is the hope for those in hell? The Bible answers all of these questions.

Is there life after death? Does something inside us, a soul or a spirit, survive the death of the body? Think on how the first man, Adam, came to have life, " And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7, AV); therefore, though breathing sustained his life, putting "the breath of life" into his nostrils involved much more than simply blowing air into his lungs. It meant that God put into Adam's lifeless body the spark of life-"the force of life," which is active in all earthly creatures, " And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die." (Genesis 6:17, AV), and " All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died." (Genesis 7:22, AV). This animating force was referred to in the Bible as the 'spirit,' " For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." (James 2:26, AV). This 'spirit' can be likened to an electric current that activates a light bulb or an appliance and enables it to perform its intended function. Since current never takes on the features of the equipment it activates, this life-force likewise does not take on any of the characteristics of the creatures it animates. It has no personality and no reasoning ability.

However where does this 'spirit' go when a person dies? The Bible shows, " His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." (Psalms 146:4, AV). Thus, when a person dies, his life-activating force or 'spirit' does not go on existing in another realm as a spirit creature, " Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7, AV). This means that any hope of future life for that person now rests entirely with God.

The ancient Greek philosophers Socrates and Plato held that a soul inside a person survives death and never dies, and so do many fundamentalist, Catholics, and Orthodox. However what does the Bible teach about this soul? In, " And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7, AV), it clearly shows that man did not receive a 'soul' but became a living 'soul' or person. The Bible speak of a soul's doing work, craving food, being kidnapped, experiencing sleeplessness, and so forth, " And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people." (Leviticus 23:30, AV), " When the LORD thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, I will eat flesh, because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after." (Deuteronomy 12:20, AV), " My soul melteth for heaviness: strengthen thou me according unto thy word." (Psalms 119:28, AV). Therefore, the Bible shows a person himself/herself is a 'soul.' Thus, when a person dies, the 'soul' dies also since they are one and the same, " Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." (Ezekiel 18:4, AV).

Now the question is, what is the condition of the dead? When pronouncing sentence Upon Adam, Jehovah stated: " In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." (Genesis 3:19, AV). Where was Adam before God formed him from the dust of the ground and gave him life? Nowhere, he simply did not exist! When he died, Adam returned to that state of complete absence of life. The condition of the dead is made clear in the Bible, " For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten." (Ecclesiastes 9:5, AV) and " Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest." (Ecclesiastes 9:10, AV). According to the Bible, death is a state of nonexistence. The dead have no awareness, no feelings, no thoughts!

What is the common end for all of mankind? Unending torment or the common grave?
Since the dead have no conscious existence, hell cannot be a fiery place of torment where the wicked suffer after death. Therefore, what is hell? Examining what happened to Jesus after he died helps to answer that question. The Bible writer Luke recounts: " He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption." (Acts 2:31, AV). Where was this hell to which even Jesus went? The apostle Paul wrote: "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" (1 Corinthians 15:3-4, AV). This clearly shows that Jesus was in hell, the grave, but he was not abandoned there, for he was raised up, or resurrected. Consider also the case of the righteous man Job, who suffered much for his integrity to God. Wishing to escape his plight, he pleaded: " O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!" (Job 14:13, AV)(Note, In the King James Bible, AV, the Greek word Hades is rendered 'hell' in each of its ten occurrences in the New Testament. For more information see a reliable interlinear lexicon such as "The Diaglott-interlinear," "The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures," or "The Emphatic Diaglott). How unreasonable to think that Job desired to go to a fieryhot place for protection! To Job, "hell" was simply the grave, where his suffering would end. The Bible hell, then, is the common grave of mankind where good people (even Jesus went there for parts of 3 days)as well as bad ones go.

What is hellfire? Could it be that the fire of hell is symbolic of all-consuming, or thorough, destruction? Separating fire from Hades, or hell, the Scriptures say: " And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." (Revelation 20:14, AV). "The lake" mentioned here is symbolic, since death and hell (Hades) that are thrown into it cannot literally be burned.

The lake of fire has a meaning similar to that of the fiery Gehenna (hell fire in KJV, AV) that Jesus spoke of at, " But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." (Matthew 5:22, AV), "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." (Mark 9:47-48, AV). Gehenna the ancient Greek word often translated as 'hell fire' occurs 12 times in the original ancient Greek manuscripts, and it refers to the valley of Hinnom, outside the walls of Jerusalem. When Jesus was on earth, this valley was used as a garbage dump, "where the dead bodies of criminals, and the carcasses of animals, and every other kind of filth was cast." (Smith's Dictionary of the Bible). These fires were kept burning by adding sulfur to burn up the refuse. Jesus used that valley as a proper symbol of everlasting destruction. As does Gehenna, the lake of fire symbolizes eternal destruction.

Death and Hades are "hurled into" it in that they will be done away when mankind is freed from sin and the condemnation of death. Willful, unrepentant sinners will also have their 'portion' in that lake, " But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8, AV). They also will be annihilated forever. On the other hand, those in God's memory who are in hell, the common grave of mankind, shall have a marvelous future.

The common grave of mankind, hell will be emptied, as shown, " And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." (Revelation 20:13, AV). Clearly the Bible shows hell will be emptied, As Jesus promised, " And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43 AV) and " And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust." (Acts 24:15, AV).

In the new world of God's making, resurrected humans who comply with his righteous laws will never need to die again, as shown at " He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it." (Isaiah 25:8, AV). Jehovah (Yahweh), " And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." (Revelation 21:4 AV), What a blessing is to be provided for those in hell, " And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3, AV)

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] LOVE - WHAT TRUE CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT:
[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 582A]

Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: 7 Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, 8 Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest. Proverbs 6:6 – 8, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Man can learn a lot from the beasts and insects of the field as testified to at Job 12:7, [AV] “But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:” Many of them are not sluggish while many individuals are. This is not the way man should be in the work of Almighty God (YHWH) as shown at Proverbs 10:26, [AV] “As vinegar to the teeth, and as smoke to the eyes, so is the sluggard to them that send him.” Mankind should take lessons from the ants per Proverbs 30:25 - 26, [AV] “The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer; 26 The conies are but a feeble folk, yet make they their houses in the rocks;”

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[2] LOVE - WHAT TRUE CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT:

True Christianity is all about love, 1 st. love for the Creator, Jehovah God, and second love for one's fellow man. You can not love God whom you can not see if you do not at first love your fellow man whom you can see. When Jesus Christ was asked what is the greatest commandment, he answered, "Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." (Matthew 22:36-40 AV). The Holy Bible plainly shows we should not judge our neighbors, but love them. This does not mean loving their sin. Matthew 7:1-2, states, "Stop judging that you may not be judged; for with what judgment you are judging, you will be judged," and Romans 14:4, 10-13, "Who are you to judge the house servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God can make him stand. But why do you judge your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of God... Therefore let us not be judging one another any longer," this plainly shows no true Christian should be executing judgment on anyone with respect sin. In fact this would be a usurping of God's exclusive right, i.e., blaspheme, Matthew 25:31-32 states, "When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats." Second, we should be loving our neighbors and attempting to get them to turn away from sin, not judging, hurting, or killing them in violation of God's law. Luke 10:27 states, "....You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your being, with all your strength, and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself." Matthew 5:21-22 clearly states this devine principle, "....'You must not murder; but whoever commits a murder will be accountable to the court of justice.' However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother (neighbor) will be accountable to the court of justice; but whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court (God's court, not the Supreme Court of the US); whereas whoever says, 'You despicable fool! will be liable to the fiery Gehenna. (often mistranslated as hell)." Third, We should be helping our neighbor not harming him/her in one way or another. Now a question, why do many individuals seek to run others down or harm them when they are not endangering them? Please do a little Biblical research and see if you can uncover the root cause.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON REPENTANCE

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 583A]

He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 1 John 4:8, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, Micah revealed that Almighty God (YHWH) was a God of mercy who wanted all to turn around to doing right at Micah 7:18, [AV] “Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON REPENTANCE:

WHY REPENTANCE IS NECESSARY:

The subject of repentance can not be understood unless we first understand why repentance is necessary; therefore, let's look at what the scriptures have to say on the subject:

" Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12 AV) which shows that repentance is necessary as sin entered the world.
This is also clearly shown by, "9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." (Luke 18:9-14 AV).

This is further made clear by, " For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Romans 3:23 AV) therefore making clear we need to turn our lives from sin and repent.

LIVES MUST BE BROUGHT IN HARMONY WITH GOD'S (YHWH'S) WORD:

Let's see what the Bible has to say with regard turning our life around.

First consider:

"This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
20 But ye have not so learned Christ;
21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness." (Ephesians 4:17-24 AV) which clearly shows we must strip off the old personality with its works of uncleanness and greed. This would include depraved sexual lust, God dishonoring false dogma, greed, hate of fellow man, hedonism, lasciviousness, etc.

Now consider:

" For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:" (1 Peter 4:3 AV) which just reinforces what was said in Ephesians, clearly showing we must turn our lives around and STOP walking in "lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries [these would include belief in false dogma, practices and traditions including hero worship]:"

Likewise:

" Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:" (Colossiams 3:5-10 Av). This scripture once more clearly shows we must STOP practicing "fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:" Therefore we can see for true repentance, we must cease and decease from practices that are NOT approved by God (YHWH).

TRUE REPENTANCE REQUIRED WHEN ONE TURNS TO GOD:

Clearly the Bible shows true repentance required when one turns to God; let's review a pertinent scripture on this subject:

" But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance." (Acts 26:20 AV). Ah, here we see, we must do works that "meet for repentance." What could some of these works be? Well some of these words would be ceasing to do the things one previously did that go against his laws and principles and that bring dishonor to him. What are some of these? Well as previously shown, these would be such things as lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries [these would include belief in false dogma, practices and traditions including hero worship], of course it would not be limited to simply not doing these wrongs, but would require effort to counteract the effects of your previous wrongs such as exposing false dogma, starting to love your fellow man, and ceasing to live a hedonistic life style and warning others against such things as deviant sex, illegal drug use, and other debasing things.

Remember:

" The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9 AV). This should clearly behoove us to turn our life around. It should be clear that Almighty God (YHWH) takes no delight in those who refuse to do so. This is made clear, "11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? 12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth. 13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it. 14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right; 15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die. 16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live." (Ezekial 33:11-16 AV).

In fact:

" I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance." (Luke 15:7 AV), clearly shows that God (YHWH) and his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) are made joyful by sinners who truly repent.

ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED FOR REPENTANCE:

We must gain accurate knowledge to strip off the old personality as clearly shown by:

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith." (Romans 12:1-3 AV) which clearly shows we must make our lives over to be acceptable to God (YHWH) and this can only be done by "not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind" which we all know is through study to gain accurate knowledge so "not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind". Likewise, "through the grace given unto me," we should, " So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another." (Romans 12:5 AV).

To help others and ourselves to come to an accurate knowledge, we should:

" Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15 AV). We must study God's (YHWH's) word and let others in a spirit of neighbor love know the truth also.

Last, but definitely not least, we must:

"9 Be not guilty of falsehood one to another: having stript off the old man, together with his practices,
10 And having put on the new-who is being moulded afresh unto personal knowledge, after the image of him that hath created him,-" (Colosians 3:9-10 Rotherham Bible)

CHRISTIAN TEACHING EMPHASIS REPENTANCE:

At " And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (Matthew 24:14 AV) Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) gave the command to his true followers to witness to the nations and this is clearly emphasized as follows:

"Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel." (Mark 1:14-15 AV). Therefore, for true repentance acceptable to God (YHWH) and his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) to take place action on our part to make the word of God (YHWH) know to others is required.

In fact, this is so important that repentance can only take place:

" And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." (Luke 24:47 AV)

This truth is further highlighted as:

"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead." (Acts 17:30 AV). From this we can see ignorance will no longer be tolerated clearly showing ignorance of God (YHWH) dishonoring dogma and of his laws and principles will no longer be tolerated by God (YHWH) or by his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves). Therefore, it is truly important, as shown by this scripture to turn our life around.

Also, true repentance requires faith:

"And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ." (Acts 20:21 AV) clearly that our leader, Christ Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) the only " For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" (1 Timothy 2:5 AV) " taught publickly and from house to house"; therefore it is clear we to should "Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ."

Last, but not Least:

" And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." (Luke 24:47 AV); which is in complete harmony with the commission Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) put on ALL his genuine followers as follows, " And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." (Matthew 24:14 AV)

WHAT HAPPENS IF IN A MOMENT OF WEAKNESS WE COMMIT A SIN?:

First we must remember our savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is compassionate in carrying out his assignment given to him by his Father (YHWH), "19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." (1 Corinthians 15:19-28 AV).

" My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" (1 John 2:1 AV); clearly shows we have an "advocate with the Father" who will assist those genuinely trying to live their lives in harmony with God's (YHWH's) will so we should fear not in these cases.

This compassionate nature of our savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is made even clearer by:

"Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ." (Galations 6:1-2 AV). As can be seen from this scripture that if one inadvertently takes a false step we are under obligation to "ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ." This would be of no purpose if the errant one's mistake could not be corrected.

Therefore, because we are all sinners, in order to merit the mercy and compassion of our leader Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) we must:

" Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent." (Revelation 2:5 AV), thus true repentance is the key to our savior extending his love and mercy to us.

NOW, WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR MERCY?:

First, we must confess our sins and wrong beliefs to God (YHWH) through his Son and only mediator between God and man, and not to some false mediator or go between such as a priest, statue of a saint or the Virgin Mary, etc.

" He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13 AV)

And:

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." (1 John 1:9 AV).

And:

" I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah." (Psalms 32:5 AV)

So we can see from the above scriptures, it is necessary to confess our sins to God (YHWH) through his Son and only mediator between God and man, and not to some false mediator or go between such as a priest, statue of a saint or the Virgin Mary, etc.

HOWEVER, NO REPENTENCE IS POSSIBLE FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ACCEPT GOD'S MERCY AND THEN RETURN TO A WILLFUL PRACTICE OF DISBELIEF AND SIN:

It is clearly shown that it is impossible for those who once enlightened willfully return like " But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." (2 Peter 2:22 AV) to gain the benefits of repentance, or in other words, once saved is not always saved:

"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
10 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:" (Hebrews 6:4-11 AV)

And:

"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (Hebrews 10:26-31 AV)

And:

"For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:" (2 Peter 2:20-22 AV).

As can clearly be seen, as stated at the beginning of this section "it is impossible for those who once enlightened willfully return like " But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." (2 Peter 2:22 AV) to gain the benefits of repentance, or in other words, once saved is not always saved:"

MERCY AND COMPASION LIKE THE MERCY AND COMPASSION OF OUR SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST IS REQUIRED OF US:

Just as Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) extends mercy and compassion to us, we must also extend it to others:

"Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
3 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him." (Luke 17:3-4 AV)

And:

"For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6:14-15 AV)

Which clearly shows that if we are genuine followers of our leader and savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua or YHWH saves) we must be like him and extends mercy and compassion to others.

LAST, WHAT IS THE INDICATION OF TRUE REPENTANCE?:

Clearly we must first:

" If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14 AV)

We must turn back from our former wrong course of action and false belief:

"When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.
14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live." (Ezekial 33:13-16 AV)

And:

"Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.
31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" (Ezekial 18:30-31 AV)

This need to turn your life around and repent is once more emphasized in the New Testament:

" Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;" (Acts 3:19 AV)

Last, but not least, remember we must confess our transgressions to God (YHWH) in prayer through his Son, Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) who is the only " For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" (1 Timothy 2:5 AV), and as his assignment from his Father (YHWH) mediates towards us " But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises." (Hebrews 8:6 AV):

" He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13 AV)
Francis David said it long ago, "Neither the sword of popes...nor the image of death will halt the march of truth."Francis David, 1579, written on the wall of his prison cell."
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The Trinity is False Doctrine ¡V w/Historical Note and Links

PART I :The doctrine of the Trinity is a false belief that there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another. Thus in the words of the Athanasian Creed: ¡¥the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God.¡¨ (The Catholic Encyclopedia, New York; 1912, Volume XV, page 47).

First, to be true all would have had to exist for all of time since as we all know Yahweh (YHVH) has always existed, ¡§ Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.¡¨ (Psalms 90:2 AV). However, Jesus Christ the claimed second member of this false doctrine was the first of Yahweh (YHVH), ¡§ Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:¡¨ (Colossians 1:15 AV), ¡§ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;¡¨ (Revelation 3:14 AV), ¡§ And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.¡¨ (John 17:5 AV), ¡§ What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?¡¨ (John 6:62 AV), and ¡§ Jesus (Jehoshua) said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.¡¨ (John 8:58 AV); from these scriptures we can see Jesus (Jehoshua) was created by Yahweh (YHVH), had been used by Yahweh (YHVH) in the creation of the earth and the creatures on it, and had previously been in heaven with him before coming down to earth and being born of a virgin, Mary. Now, the Holy Spirit is not a spirit in the sense of being a heavenly creature such as God or Jesus (Jehoshua) or the angels, but Yahweh¡¦s (YHVH) active force; By far the majority of occurrences of ru'ach and pneu'ma relate to God¡¦s spirit, his active force, his holy spirit. The Holy Spirit has been demonstrated not to be a spirit person since people can descend on people being baptized, ¡§Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus (Jehoshua) also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. 23 And Jesus (Jehoshua) himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,¡¨ (Luke 3:21-23 AV), ¡§One of the two which heard John speak, and followed him, was Andrew, Simon Peter¡¦s brother. 41 He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.¡¨ (John 1:40-41 AV), and ¡§ How God anointed Jesus (Jehoshua) of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.¡¨ (Acts 10:38 AV)¡¦; from these we can clearly see the Holy Spirit is a different type of entity or substance from either Yahweh (YHVH) or Jesus (Jehoshua). This clearly invalidates the Trinity since it requires the ¡¥Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God¡¦ be one substance which clearly they are not.

Further, the concept of the Trinity would require all claimed members of it to be equal if there is to be one God and not three, and this is clearly not the case, ¡§ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.¡¨ (John 14:28 AV), ¡§Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.¡¨ (Phillipians 2:5-8 AV), ¡§ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.¡¨ (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV), ¡§ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.¡¨ (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV), and ¡§ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.¡¨ (John 5:19 AV). From these we can see Jesus (Jehoshua) clearly acknowledged that his father, Yahweh (YHVH), was his superior, i.e., greater than he; therefore, we can see the so called members of the Trinity are not equal as they would need to be for any possibility for the Trinity to be reality; just another proof of it being false.

Now for the Trinity to be true, all worship would have to be directed to this ¡¥three Gods in one¡¦ but this is not the case as clearly shown, ¡§ Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.¡¨ (Matthew 4:10 AV), ¡§But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.¡¨ (John 4:23-24 Av). As we see, Jesus (Jehoshua) said all worship should be directed to his father, Yahweh (YHVH), and not to him or some icon.

Also, if there was, as the Trinity doctrine claims, ¡¥three Gods in one¡¦ and Jesus (Jehoshua) had been put to death on the Cross (stake) who would have resurrected him if he and his father, Yahweh (YHVH), and the Holy Spirit were ¡¥three Gods in one¡¦? Obviously this could not be the case so likewise the Trinity could not be so for this reason alone.

The Doctrine of The Trinity defies the universally accepted and historically always held meaning of the words for father and son. Not only does it defy the meaning of these words, it destroys their meaning! This fact is important to realize for God gave us language. It was not invented by man as the evolutionist tries to say. Thus, we are not destroying man made terms, but God-given terms! These terms, as given to us by God, require that the father exists before the son, and for the son to be brought into existence by the father. This universally accepted and recognized definition is what these terms have meant from the beginning of this creation. Therefore, who has given anyone the authority to change these God-given terms now? In fact, The Lord Jesus Christ verifies the meaning of these terms when he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." John 13:16 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." John 14:28. Here, he establishes that God is his lord, that he was sent by his lord, that God is his Father, and that his Father is greater than he himself. How could any of these declarations be true if the Doctrine of The Trinity is true? It is clearly impossible for these declarations of The Lord Jesus Christ to be true and the Doctrine of The Trinity to be True! It is easy to see that these words of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Doctrine of the Trinity are mutually exclusive and opposing views! Some believers in the Trinity use the same argument that the Catholic church put forth at the Council of Constantinople, 381 A.D. that it is a mystery and the words have a unique meaning; however, Now, I ask you why would the Creator want to change the meaning of a word in one place and not else where. He never sought to confuse his followers; this defies not only language, but common sense.

Interestingly, there is a scripture, Jeremiah 23:6, that confuses some as they do not understand the nature of ancient Jewish names and titles, and how they all had a meaning as clarified by a brief exert, is NOT a personal name but a title for the messiah (Jesus) as shown by the ¡§Easton¡¦s Revised Bible Dictionary, ¡¨Jehovah our rightousness, rendered in the Authorized Version, "The LORD our righteousness," a title given to the Messiah..¡XJer. 23:6; 33:16.¡¨ Now let¡¦s us look at several Bible translations: ¡§ In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.¡¨ (Jeremiah 23:6 AV), ¡§In his days Judah shall be saved, Israel shall dwell in security. This is the name they give him: ¡§The Lord our justice.¡¨ (Jeremiah 23:6 The New American Bible ¡V World Catholic Press, approved at the Vatican by the Pope on Sept. 18, 1970), ¡§In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel itself will reside in security. And this is his name with which he will be called, "Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.¡¨ (Jeremiah 23:6 NWT). This actually shows we are speaking of two different entities or beings, and that title for Jesus (Yeshua) which means ¡§YHWH our righteousness¡¨ is most fitting as he was the first born, first of Almighty God¡¦s creation, Jeremiah 23:5-7 is actually a Messianic prophecy describing the future king sprouting from David¡¦s line to ¡§execute justice and righteousness in the land.¡¨ That king would be Jesus.

A discourse on John 1:1 ¡V This is PART V because of length.

Now, the word Trinity does not appear in any of the 66 books of the inspired Bible Canon; this would not be logical if it were the center part of Christian belief. This alone, should make it very highly suspect, but when you consider almost all pagan groups had a Trinity, it is obviously something that must have slipped into apostate Christianity from pagan beliefs. This is indeed the case as the Reverend Alexander Hilsop clearly showed in his detailed account of how this came to pass in his book, ¡§The Two Babylons¡¨ by Alexander Hilsop.

In summary, even a cursory reading of the scriptures on this subject or of religious history (as found in ¡¥The Two Babylons¡¦ by Alexander Hilsop, and in many other history books of religion) with an open mind, it will be clear that the Trinity is a false doctrine that slipped into Christianity after most had become apostate.

PART II :The History of Arius and His Fellow Believers in Scripture Alone to the 16th Century.

Ins and outs of religious false dogma starting with the council of Nicea in 325 A.D.
This council may seem a strange place to start discussing how false doctrine started to enter the early Christian church that had drifted from following the teachings of Jesus Christ into backsliding. However, the Council of Nicea marked a real turning point that led from a slight drift from the true teachings of Christ to precipitous jump into false dogma for political reasons. First we need to look at the major players at this council:
Emperor Constantine, a pagan who wanted a fusion of Christian beliefs with pagan beliefs to solidify his empire that was being torn apart over the controversy of religion. He called, even though not a Christian, for the convening of this council.
Bishop Athanasius, a prominent figure in the so called Christian church at the time and a very suave politician who knew what the emperor¡¦s goals were and aimed to fulfill them.
Bishop Arius , a stickler for not deviating from the inspired word of God, the Bible, maintained that ¡¥the Son of God was a creature, made from nothing; that there was a time when he had no existence; that he was capable of his own free will of right and wrong,¡¦ and that, ¡¥were he in the truest sense a son, he must have come after the Father, therefore the time obviously was when he was not, and hence he was a finite being.¡¦
Eusebius Pamphili-Compromising Bishop of Caesarea -Compromising Bishop of Caesarea who supported the ideas of Arius, but switched sides since he was also the ¡¥right hand man¡¦ of the Emperor Constantine and knew maintaining principles and what he knew to be truth would not be in his personal best interest.

The Council of Nicea was convened at the order of the Pagan Emperor Constantine and only one sixth of the bishops of Christendom came. Emperor Constantine, who presided over the Council, and he made the opening oration on behalf of the 318 bishops assembled and in praise of the emperor who had convened the assembly. Many doctrines were discussed and Arius, a stickler for maintaining Christian purity, opposed the adoption of most doctrines put forth on the basis they were not in accord to the written inspired word of God (Yahweh (JHVH)). This tried the patience of Constantine because all he wanted was unity in his empire; therefore, he sought a fusion of pagan and Christian beliefs so there would be uniformity. He, Constantine, cared nothing with regard to Christian purity and the inspired word of God, the Bible. On one proposed doctrine, the trinity, the concept of three Gods in one, co-equal, co-substantial, co-eternal much debate arose as Arius hotly contended it was clearly against the inspired word of God, (Yahweh (JHVH)), and the debate continued on for months. At first, Eusebius Pamphilj, Bishop of Caesarea took Arius¡¦s side, but quickly switched when his mentor/boss Emperor Constantine obviously told him to. Even after months of debate, they could not agree as to whether Arius or Athanasius had the truth. Finally, the yet unbaptized pagan Emperor Constantine, decreed in favor of the trinity and declared illegal all religious opinions that were not in line with that dogma.

Bishop Arius, however, would not let the matter die as he believed in true worship and felt as the Apostles ¡§ God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.¡¨ (Romans 3:4 AV). Arius's insistence on truth won him the animosity of the Emperor and for this Arius and two other Bsihops that would not compromise were banished. Later many sought to catch Arius and put him to death, but he successfully escaped all of his persecutors and went and preached to nations not under the control of Rome.

However, the controversy did not end. While the birth of the Catholic Church may be pinpointed at A.D. 325, when Constantine decided the debate on the trinity held at Nicea in favor of Athanasius and against Arius, it was not until after the year A.D. 440 that the bishop of the Roman see, Leo I, became in fact the first pope, according to history but not the Catholic church. After he became Pope, Leo I, set out, not on a Christian path as a footstep follower of Jesus Christ (Jehoshua), but on a presumptuous path. Beacon Lights of History, Vol. III, Page 244 states, ¡§I will revive government once more upon this earth; not by bringing back the Caesars, but by declaring a new theocracy, by making myself the vicegerent of Christ, by virtue of the promise made to Peter, whose successor I am, in order to restore law, punish crime, head off heresy, encourage genius, conserve peace, heal dissensions, protect learning; appealing to love, but ruling by fear. Who but the Church can do this? A theocracy will create a new civilization. Not a diadem, but a tiara will I wear, a symbol of universal sovereignty, before which barbarism shall flee away. In fact, he and some later Popes tried to gain control over many secular governments and with some success. This was directly against the teachings of the one whom they claimed they were vicegerents of as recorded at James 4:4. "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." (AV) This is not surprising as in the Apostle Paul's day there were ambitious men like Leo I and he said in a letter to the Corinthians, Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you. (1 Corinthians 4:8 AV)

Moving on in time, others took up the cry for pure worship and against the dogma that was only accepted because of an imperial degree. Francis David, superintendent of the Reform Church appeared before the Diet of Torda (1568 A.D.) as a supporter of the pure religion ideas of Arius, and on the other side was Peter Melius, leader of the Transylvanian Reformed Church. Francis David appealed to the Bible alone; whereas, Peter Melius appealed to the results of the Council of Nicea. This debate went on for some days an most considered Francis David had won it, and he was given a hero¡¦s welcome in his home town of Kolozsvar (now Cluj-Napoca, Romania). Francis David then joined forces with Georgia Biandrata another who believed as Arius. The two of them produced a book, "De falsa et vera unius Dei Patris, Filii, et Spiritus Sancti cognitione," (The False and True Knowledge of the Unity of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit). This book contained a historical examination of many learned men who refused to believe the Trinity.

However, Francis David and Georgia Biandrata were not the only people of the time wanting to maintain pure worship, there were others. The Spanish theologian Michael Servetus, was a learned scholar that maintained the Bible was the only and ultimate source of truth and the dogma of man was not acceptable to God. For this he and Westphal paid with their lives, both being roasted alive by counterfeit Christians who held for man¡¦s dogma as having a higher authority than God's word (both were supporters of pure worship as exposed by Arius and one was his very distant decendent). The motto of all of these men was Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone).

In Belgium, many were accepting the moto, Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone). Van Liesvelt a publisher wanted the common people to know the truth and accept only the scripture and not church dogma. In 1526 A.D. he printed a complete Dutch Bible with this view in mind. In his edition, of 1542 A.D., he put a woodcut picture of the Devil as a bearded monk with a rosary and goat¡¦s feet next to Matthew 4:3, and a marginal note, Salvation comes through Jesus Christ alone. This infuriated the Catholic church and was used as the basis for getting Val Liesvelt condemned to death. Yet this is exactly what the Bible says as Arius had pointed out approximately a millennium earlier. Another individual that believed the moto, Sola Scriptura¡ (Scripture alone), was an ordained priest William Tyndale. He wanted to let the common people have a chance to learn the truth directly from the word of God, the Bible. He set out to translate the Bible into English and by 1526 he was successful in publishing a new testament in English. However Catholic authorities under the direction of Bishop Tunstall were determined to prevent the common people from reading the Bible. Finally in May 1535 A.D. William Tyndale was arrested in Antwerp, Belgium. He was tied to a stake, strangled, and burned; however his ultimate words were, Lord, open the King of England's eyes!
Actually, much of William Tyndale's translation lives on in the King James Version (AV) and this because the eyes of King Henry VIII of England were opened.

Some of the sources (many sent to me as copies of pages or read in libraries in major cities) are:

1. A Short History of Christian Doctrine, by Bernhard Lohse [translated from the German by F. Ernest Stoeffler in 1963], 2 nc. Paperback printing 1980.
2. An Essay of the Development of Christian Doctrine by John Henry Cardinal Newman, 6 th. Ed. 2989
3. The International Standard Bible encyclopedia 1982
4. The Formation of Christian Dogma byMartin Warner 1957
5. Gods and the One God by Robert m. Grant 1986
6. The Church of the First Three Centuries by Dr. Alan Lamson 1869
7. ¡§De falsa et vera unius Dei Patris, Filii, et Spiritus Sancti cognitione,¡¨ (The False and True Knowledge of the Unity of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) by ). Francis David and Georgia Biandrata
8. Beacon Lights of History, Vol. III
9. The Search for The Christian Doctrine of God by R.P. C. Hanson
10. The Story of the Early Church by Dr. Martin Werner
11. Short Story of the Early Church by Dr. H. R. boer
12. The Apostolic Fathers by Robert A. Kraft 1965
13. The Library of Christian Classics edited by Cyril C. Richardson 1953
14. Dictionary of Christian Theology edited by Alan Richardson, 1969
15. The New Encyclopaedia Britannica, 15 th. Ed. 1985
16. The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. I edited by Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson [American Reprint of the Edinburgh Edition] 1885
17. The Influence of Greek Ideas on Christianity by Edwin Hatch
18. Entschlues/Offen-April 1985 (German Jesuit Magazine)
19. Thayer¡¦s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament
20. Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus
21. The Two Babylons by Alexander Hilsop
22. New Catholic Encylopeadia
23. Should you Believe in the Trinity WB&TS
24. Masters Thesis, When Will This System of Things or World End, Taken in Relationship with Jesus¡¦s Statement, no oneKnows the Hour or Day Except my Father Who Art in Heaven, Copyright #TXu 217 406, of Oct. 9, 1985 by my husband
25. Several unpublished theological papers by my husband and others.

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[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 584A]

For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. Proverbs 2:6,[authorized King James Bible; AV]

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[2] THE TRINITY IS FALSE DOCTRINE ¡V W/HISTORICAL NOTE AND LINKS

PART I :The doctrine of the Trinity is a false belief that there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another. Thus in the words of the Athanasian Creed: ¡¥the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God.¡¨ (The Catholic Encyclopedia, New York; 1912, Volume XV, page 47).

First, to be true all would have had to exist for all of time since as we all know Yahweh (YHVH) has always existed, ¡§ Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.¡¨ (Psalms 90:2 AV). However, Jesus Christ the claimed second member of this false doctrine was the first of Yahweh (YHVH), ¡§ Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:¡¨ (Colossians 1:15 AV), ¡§ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;¡¨ (Revelation 3:14 AV), ¡§ And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.¡¨ (John 17:5 AV), ¡§ What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?¡¨ (John 6:62 AV), and ¡§ Jesus (Jehoshua) said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.¡¨ (John 8:58 AV); from these scriptures we can see Jesus (Jehoshua) was created by Yahweh (YHVH), had been used by Yahweh (YHVH) in the creation of the earth and the creatures on it, and had previously been in heaven with him before coming down to earth and being born of a virgin, Mary. Now, the Holy Spirit is not a spirit in the sense of being a heavenly creature such as God or Jesus (Jehoshua) or the angels, but Yahweh¡¦s (YHVH) active force; By far the majority of occurrences of ru'ach and pneu'ma relate to God¡¦s spirit, his active force, his holy spirit. The Holy Spirit has been demonstrated not to be a spirit person since people can descend on people being baptized, ¡§Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus (Jehoshua) also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. 23 And Jesus (Jehoshua) himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,¡¨ (Luke 3:21-23 AV), ¡§One of the two which heard John speak, and followed him, was Andrew, Simon Peter¡¦s brother. 41 He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.¡¨ (John 1:40-41 AV), and ¡§ How God anointed Jesus (Jehoshua) of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.¡¨ (Acts 10:38 AV)¡¦; from these we can clearly see the Holy Spirit is a different type of entity or substance from either Yahweh (YHVH) or Jesus (Jehoshua). This clearly invalidates the Trinity since it requires the ¡¥Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God¡¦ be one substance which clearly they are not.

Further, the concept of the Trinity would require all claimed members of it to be equal if there is to be one God and not three, and this is clearly not the case, ¡§ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.¡¨ (John 14:28 AV), ¡§Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.¡¨ (Phillipians 2:5-8 AV), ¡§ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.¡¨ (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV), ¡§ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.¡¨ (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV), and ¡§ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.¡¨ (John 5:19 AV). From these we can see Jesus (Jehoshua) clearly acknowledged that his father, Yahweh (YHVH), was his superior, i.e., greater than he; therefore, we can see the so called members of the Trinity are not equal as they would need to be for any possibility for the Trinity to be reality; just another proof of it being false.

Now for the Trinity to be true, all worship would have to be directed to this ¡¥three Gods in one¡¦ but this is not the case as clearly shown, ¡§ Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.¡¨ (Matthew 4:10 AV), ¡§But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.¡¨ (John 4:23-24 Av). As we see, Jesus (Jehoshua) said all worship should be directed to his father, Yahweh (YHVH), and not to him or some icon.

Also, if there was, as the Trinity doctrine claims, ¡¥three Gods in one¡¦ and Jesus (Jehoshua) had been put to death on the Cross (stake) who would have resurrected him if he and his father, Yahweh (YHVH), and the Holy Spirit were ¡¥three Gods in one¡¦? Obviously this could not be the case so likewise the Trinity could not be so for this reason alone.

The Doctrine of The Trinity defies the universally accepted and historically always held meaning of the words for father and son. Not only does it defy the meaning of these words, it destroys their meaning! This fact is important to realize for God gave us language. It was not invented by man as the evolutionist tries to say. Thus, we are not destroying man made terms, but God-given terms! These terms, as given to us by God, require that the father exists before the son, and for the son to be brought into existence by the father. This universally accepted and recognized definition is what these terms have meant from the beginning of this creation. Therefore, who has given anyone the authority to change these God-given terms now? In fact, The Lord Jesus Christ verifies the meaning of these terms when he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." John 13:16 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." John 14:28. Here, he establishes that God is his lord, that he was sent by his lord, that God is his Father, and that his Father is greater than he himself. How could any of these declarations be true if the Doctrine of The Trinity is true? It is clearly impossible for these declarations of The Lord Jesus Christ to be true and the Doctrine of The Trinity to be True! It is easy to see that these words of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Doctrine of the Trinity are mutually exclusive and opposing views! Some believers in the Trinity use the same argument that the Catholic church put forth at the Council of Constantinople, 381 A.D. that it is a mystery and the words have a unique meaning; however, Now, I ask you why would the Creator want to change the meaning of a word in one place and not else where. He never sought to confuse his followers; this defies not only language, but common sense.

Interestingly, there is a scripture, Jeremiah 23:6, that confuses some as they do not understand the nature of ancient Jewish names and titles, and how they all had a meaning as clarified by a brief exert, is NOT a personal name but a title for the messiah (Jesus) as shown by the ¡§Easton¡¦s Revised Bible Dictionary, ¡¨Jehovah our rightousness, rendered in the Authorized Version, "The LORD our righteousness," a title given to the Messiah..¡XJer. 23:6; 33:16.¡¨ Now let¡¦s us look at several Bible translations: ¡§ In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.¡¨ (Jeremiah 23:6 AV), ¡§In his days Judah shall be saved, Israel shall dwell in security. This is the name they give him: ¡§The Lord our justice.¡¨ (Jeremiah 23:6 The New American Bible ¡V World Catholic Press, approved at the Vatican by the Pope on Sept. 18, 1970), ¡§In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel itself will reside in security. And this is his name with which he will be called, "Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.¡¨ (Jeremiah 23:6 NWT). This actually shows we are speaking of two different entities or beings, and that title for Jesus (Yeshua) which means ¡§YHWH our righteousness¡¨ is most fitting as he was the first born, first of Almighty God¡¦s creation, Jeremiah 23:5-7 is actually a Messianic prophecy describing the future king sprouting from David¡¦s line to ¡§execute justice and righteousness in the land.¡¨ That king would be Jesus.

A discourse on John 1:1 ¡V This is PART V because of length.

Now, the word Trinity does not appear in any of the 66 books of the inspired Bible Canon; this would not be logical if it were the center part of Christian belief. This alone, should make it very highly suspect, but when you consider almost all pagan groups had a Trinity, it is obviously something that must have slipped into apostate Christianity from pagan beliefs. This is indeed the case as the Reverend Alexander Hilsop clearly showed in his detailed account of how this came to pass in his book, ¡§The Two Babylons¡¨ by Alexander Hilsop.

In summary, even a cursory reading of the scriptures on this subject or of religious history (as found in ¡¥The Two Babylons¡¦ by Alexander Hilsop, and in many other history books of religion) with an open mind, it will be clear that the Trinity is a false doctrine that slipped into Christianity after most had become apostate.

PART II :The History of Arius and His Fellow Believers in Scripture Alone to the 16th Century.

Ins and outs of religious false dogma starting with the council of Nicea in 325 A.D.
This council may seem a strange place to start discussing how false doctrine started to enter the early Christian church that had drifted from following the teachings of Jesus Christ into backsliding. However, the Council of Nicea marked a real turning point that led from a slight drift from the true teachings of Christ to precipitous jump into false dogma for political reasons. First we need to look at the major players at this council:
Emperor Constantine, a pagan who wanted a fusion of Christian beliefs with pagan beliefs to solidify his empire that was being torn apart over the controversy of religion. He called, even though not a Christian, for the convening of this council.
Bishop Athanasius, a prominent figure in the so called Christian church at the time and a very suave politician who knew what the emperor¡¦s goals were and aimed to fulfill them.
Bishop Arius , a stickler for not deviating from the inspired word of God, the Bible, maintained that ¡¥the Son of God was a creature, made from nothing; that there was a time when he had no existence; that he was capable of his own free will of right and wrong,¡¦ and that, ¡¥were he in the truest sense a son, he must have come after the Father, therefore the time obviously was when he was not, and hence he was a finite being.¡¦
Eusebius Pamphili-Compromising Bishop of Caesarea -Compromising Bishop of Caesarea who supported the ideas of Arius, but switched sides since he was also the ¡¥right hand man¡¦ of the Emperor Constantine and knew maintaining principles and what he knew to be truth would not be in his personal best interest.

The Council of Nicea was convened at the order of the Pagan Emperor Constantine and only one sixth of the bishops of Christendom came. Emperor Constantine, who presided over the Council, and he made the opening oration on behalf of the 318 bishops assembled and in praise of the emperor who had convened the assembly. Many doctrines were discussed and Arius, a stickler for maintaining Christian purity, opposed the adoption of most doctrines put forth on the basis they were not in accord to the written inspired word of God (Yahweh (JHVH)). This tried the patience of Constantine because all he wanted was unity in his empire; therefore, he sought a fusion of pagan and Christian beliefs so there would be uniformity. He, Constantine, cared nothing with regard to Christian purity and the inspired word of God, the Bible. On one proposed doctrine, the trinity, the concept of three Gods in one, co-equal, co-substantial, co-eternal much debate arose as Arius hotly contended it was clearly against the inspired word of God, (Yahweh (JHVH)), and the debate continued on for months. At first, Eusebius Pamphilj, Bishop of Caesarea took Arius¡¦s side, but quickly switched when his mentor/boss Emperor Constantine obviously told him to. Even after months of debate, they could not agree as to whether Arius or Athanasius had the truth. Finally, the yet unbaptized pagan Emperor Constantine, decreed in favor of the trinity and declared illegal all religious opinions that were not in line with that dogma.

Bishop Arius, however, would not let the matter die as he believed in true worship and felt as the Apostles ¡§ God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.¡¨ (Romans 3:4 AV). Arius's insistence on truth won him the animosity of the Emperor and for this Arius and two other Bsihops that would not compromise were banished. Later many sought to catch Arius and put him to death, but he successfully escaped all of his persecutors and went and preached to nations not under the control of Rome.

However, the controversy did not end. While the birth of the Catholic Church may be pinpointed at A.D. 325, when Constantine decided the debate on the trinity held at Nicea in favor of Athanasius and against Arius, it was not until after the year A.D. 440 that the bishop of the Roman see, Leo I, became in fact the first pope, according to history but not the Catholic church. After he became Pope, Leo I, set out, not on a Christian path as a footstep follower of Jesus Christ (Jehoshua), but on a presumptuous path. Beacon Lights of History, Vol. III, Page 244 states, ¡§I will revive government once more upon this earth; not by bringing back the Caesars, but by declaring a new theocracy, by making myself the vicegerent of Christ, by virtue of the promise made to Peter, whose successor I am, in order to restore law, punish crime, head off heresy, encourage genius, conserve peace, heal dissensions, protect learning; appealing to love, but ruling by fear. Who but the Church can do this? A theocracy will create a new civilization. Not a diadem, but a tiara will I wear, a symbol of universal sovereignty, before which barbarism shall flee away. In fact, he and some later Popes tried to gain control over many secular governments and with some success. This was directly against the teachings of the one whom they claimed they were vicegerents of as recorded at James 4:4. "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." (AV) This is not surprising as in the Apostle Paul's day there were ambitious men like Leo I and he said in a letter to the Corinthians, Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you. (1 Corinthians 4:8 AV)

Moving on in time, others took up the cry for pure worship and against the dogma that was only accepted because of an imperial degree. Francis David, superintendent of the Reform Church appeared before the Diet of Torda (1568 A.D.) as a supporter of the pure religion ideas of Arius, and on the other side was Peter Melius, leader of the Transylvanian Reformed Church. Francis David appealed to the Bible alone; whereas, Peter Melius appealed to the results of the Council of Nicea. This debate went on for some days an most considered Francis David had won it, and he was given a hero¡¦s welcome in his home town of Kolozsvar (now Cluj-Napoca, Romania). Francis David then joined forces with Georgia Biandrata another who believed as Arius. The two of them produced a book, "De falsa et vera unius Dei Patris, Filii, et Spiritus Sancti cognitione," (The False and True Knowledge of the Unity of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit). This book contained a historical examination of many learned men who refused to believe the Trinity.

However, Francis David and Georgia Biandrata were not the only people of the time wanting to maintain pure worship, there were others. The Spanish theologian Michael Servetus, was a learned scholar that maintained the Bible was the only and ultimate source of truth and the dogma of man was not acceptable to God. For this he and Westphal paid with their lives, both being roasted alive by counterfeit Christians who held for man¡¦s dogma as having a higher authority than God's word (both were supporters of pure worship as exposed by Arius and one was his very distant decendent). The motto of all of these men was Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone).

In Belgium, many were accepting the moto, Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone). Van Liesvelt a publisher wanted the common people to know the truth and accept only the scripture and not church dogma. In 1526 A.D. he printed a complete Dutch Bible with this view in mind. In his edition, of 1542 A.D., he put a woodcut picture of the Devil as a bearded monk with a rosary and goat¡¦s feet next to Matthew 4:3, and a marginal note, Salvation comes through Jesus Christ alone. This infuriated the Catholic church and was used as the basis for getting Val Liesvelt condemned to death. Yet this is exactly what the Bible says as Arius had pointed out approximately a millennium earlier. Another individual that believed the moto, Sola Scriptura¡ (Scripture alone), was an ordained priest William Tyndale. He wanted to let the common people have a chance to learn the truth directly from the word of God, the Bible. He set out to translate the Bible into English and by 1526 he was successful in publishing a new testament in English. However Catholic authorities under the direction of Bishop Tunstall were determined to prevent the common people from reading the Bible. Finally in May 1535 A.D. William Tyndale was arrested in Antwerp, Belgium. He was tied to a stake, strangled, and burned; however his ultimate words were, Lord, open the King of England's eyes!
Actually, much of William Tyndale's translation lives on in the King James Version (AV) and this because the eyes of King Henry VIII of England were opened.

Some of the sources (many sent to me as copies of pages or read in libraries in major cities) are:

1. A Short History of Christian Doctrine, by Bernhard Lohse [translated from the German by F. Ernest Stoeffler in 1963], 2 nc. Paperback printing 1980.
2. An Essay of the Development of Christian Doctrine by John Henry Cardinal Newman, 6 th. Ed. 2989
3. The International Standard Bible encyclopedia 1982
4. The Formation of Christian Dogma byMartin Warner 1957
5. Gods and the One God by Robert m. Grant 1986
6. The Church of the First Three Centuries by Dr. Alan Lamson 1869
7. ¡§De falsa et vera unius Dei Patris, Filii, et Spiritus Sancti cognitione,¡¨ (The False and True Knowledge of the Unity of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) by ). Francis David and Georgia Biandrata
8. Beacon Lights of History, Vol. III
9. The Search for The Christian Doctrine of God by R.P. C. Hanson
10. The Story of the Early Church by Dr. Martin Werner
11. Short Story of the Early Church by Dr. H. R. boer
12. The Apostolic Fathers by Robert A. Kraft 1965
13. The Library of Christian Classics edited by Cyril C. Richardson 1953
14. Dictionary of Christian Theology edited by Alan Richardson, 1969
15. The New Encyclopaedia Britannica, 15 th. Ed. 1985
16. The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. I edited by Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson [American Reprint of the Edinburgh Edition] 1885
17. The Influence of Greek Ideas on Christianity by Edwin Hatch
18. Entschlues/Offen-April 1985 (German Jesuit Magazine)
19. Thayer¡¦s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament
20. Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus
21. The Two Babylons by Alexander Hilsop
22. New Catholic Encylopeadia
23. Should you Believe in the Trinity WB&TS
24. Masters Thesis, When Will This System of Things or World End, Taken in Relationship with Jesus¡¦s Statement, no oneKnows the Hour or Day Except my Father Who Art in Heaven, Copyright #TXu 217 406, of Oct. 9, 1985 by my husband
25. Several unpublished theological papers by my husband and others.

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[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 585A]

He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he. Deuteronomy 32:4, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Almighty God (YHWH) is indeed a rock and a fortress as testified to at Psalms 18:2, [AV] “The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.” And the great ruler, Nebuchadnezzar was forced to recognize this reality after his seven years of acting like a beast of the field as shown at Daniel 4:37, [AV] “Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.” But, He showed his love for Israel before their rejection of His son, Jesus (Yeshua) at Psalms 98:3, [AV] “He hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward the house of Israel: all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.” Yes, He is righteous as shown at Romans 3:5, [AV] “But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically gin or orangeberry, Glycosmis pentaphylla.

Scientific classification

Angiosperms
(unranked):
Eudicots
(unranked):
Rosids
Order:
Sapindales
Family:
Rutaceae
Subfamily:
Aurantioideae
Tribe:
Clauseneae
Genus:
Glycosmis
Species:
G. pentaphylla
Binomial name
Glycosmis pentaphylla
(Retz.)

DC.
Orangeberry (Glycosmis pentaphylla), sometimes referred to as gin berry, is a species of plant that ranges through Southeast Asia and Northern Australia. It is in the Rutaceae, the same plant family as citrus plants. It is cultivated for its edible pink fruits. In temperate zones, it can be cultivated indoors as a houseplant. [source - retrieved from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangeberry on 5/23/2013]

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Orangeberry, Glycosmis pentaphylla

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/orangeberry.htmI made mention of this plant on the end of anther thread recently, but figured maybe I should start a thread on it too. One person responded they where pleased the get some local results on the plant.

I got my seed from Tradewinds Fruit some years ago, and the plants are still in 5 gallon pots, just transfer a slow developer into a 5 gallon pot a year ago and it is growing well, think it got a lot less sun in different location and is not catching up in size. The other two are almost like 5 feet tall including the pot. They year they bloomed, this year they are blooming like crazy and setting fruit sparingly. I wanted to see what the fruit was like, to see if I even wanted to put them in the ground, plus want more size to handle the cold. They take very minor damage most winters, with only a frost cloth over the top, but with the sides not covered., at least down to the mid 20s.When smaller in 2007 when it dropped to 21F preceded by 14 hours below 32F, they were smaller and under the open air patio roof or plant shade house.

Now that I have tried the fruit, and they are 80% seed and the rest split between juice and a less then thin, not so chew able skin, I want to plant them now. I figure the fruit berry size should go up, and even be sweeter and better tasting in the ground. Not a lot of juice, but the taste is different, very sweet and good. Not something to fill up on, but a very nice pleasant treat as you walk out i the garden.

My berries are not quite 1/2 wide and not quite 1/4 inch thick, but they are only in a 5 gallon pot, and the plants are only less then 5 feet actual height and a couple feet wide. I find that if a plant sets good fruit in a pot, it is always much better in the ground. It has a nick name of Gin Berry, so that must mean something, either they use it for the taste or the sugar.

I was surprised to find a number of hits on a google search, when I got them years ago, there was none other then TWF were I got the seeds. Was surprised, even found a University of CA Riverside hit. http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/glycosmis.html

They seem a bit more cold sensitive then a regular Citrus, but otherwise seems to have about the same requirements. You can chew the skin and swallow it, but I choose so far to spit it out while eating them in my yard; saving the seeds so far of course. Two good qualifies other then good tasting, sets fruit while and in a pot. that only means they get better in the ground. Oh I guess 3, grows decently fast too. [source - by DavidLJ48 » Fri Jul 29, 2011as retrieved from http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/gardening/orangeberry-glycosmis-pentaphylla-t1452.html on 5/23/2013]

In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

To see pictures of the fruit and plant and more information on it, go to, http://growerjim.blogspot.com/2010/01/glycosmis-little-grown-citrus-relative.html

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] ABRAHAMIC RELIGION - WHAT IS IT? IN TWO PARTS – PART 1 [VOL 586]

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 586A]

And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing. 27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them. Ezekiel 34:26 – 27, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, Almighty God (YHWH) plans to bring the earth to a paradise again in accordance with His original plan for mankind per Isaiah 56:7, [AV] “Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.” And also echoed at Psalms 68:9, [AV] “Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.”
And as noted at Malachi 3:10, [AV] “Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.”

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[2] ABRAHAMIC RELIGION - WHAT IS IT? IN TWO PARTS – PART 1

INTRODUCTION:

Many use the term "Abrahamic Religion" when referring to Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, and sometimes with regard The Druze, the Bahá'í Faith, etc. But in brief, the term means coming through and/or originating with the descendants of Abraham in its simpliest form.

To Abraham, the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Noah, etc., the creator of all there is, he promised that his descendants would forever inhabit the land. Abraham's first son, Ishmael, the ancestor of all original Muslims, was not by his wife, but by her servant, Hagar; whereas, his second son whom the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Noah, etc., the creator of all there is, said the promised seed would come was by his legal wife Sarah, and per Genesis 17:19, "And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

Thus, the Islamic religion came through Abraham since a descendant of his son, Ishmael, Muhammad (pbuh), started it about 2,000 years after Abraham's death. His son, Ishmael, like all of his household, was a worshipper of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Issac, Ishmael, Noah, Moses, etc., the creator of all there is, but many centuries later, many of the descendants of Ishmael went to following false god(s) such as Allah and Baal which some believe to be one and the same.

Both the Jewish and Christian religions came through Abraham's son Isaac, the one to whom the everlasting covenant was established with. Both of these religions originally worshipped exclusively the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Issac, Ishmael, Noah, Moses, etc., the creator of all there is, but later some in the so called Christian branch that came out of Judaism went following pagan god(s). All the founders or genuine (true) followers of Christianity, the apostles of Jesus (Yeshua) were born Jews, the descendants of Abraham's son Isaac. However, later the "path" or way to be genuine followers of Jesus (Yeshua) was opened to none descendants of Abraham's son Isaac.

THE ISLAMIC ABRAHAMIC RELIGION:

PART A - GENERAL ON ISLAM:

First let's look at what an encyclopedia says about Islam.

<<<"Islam, is a monotheistic religion originating with the teachings of Muhammad, a 7th century Arab religious and political figure. It is the second-largest religion in the world today, with an estimated 1.4 billion adherents, spread across the globe, known as Muslims.[1] The word "Islam" means "submission", referring to the total surrender of one's self to God Allah), and the word Muslim means "one who submits (to God)".[2]

Muslims believe that God revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad and that Muhammad is God's final prophet. The Qur'an and the traditions of Muhammad in the Sunnah are regarded as the fundamental sources of Islam.[3][4] Muslims do not regard Muhammad as the founder of a new religion, but as the restorer of the original monotheistic faith of Adam, Abraham, Jesus, Moses, Noah, and other prophets. They hold that part of the messages of these prophets became distorted over time either in interpretation, in text, or both.[5][6][7] Like Judaism, and Christianity, Islam is an Abrahamic religion.[8]

Today Islam is the predominant religion in North Africa, West Africa the Horn of Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, Southeast Asia and parts of the Indian subcontinent. Large communities can also be found in China, the Balkan Peninsula and Russia. Only about 20 percent of Muslims originate from Arab countries.[9] Islam is the second largest religion after Christianity in many European countries, such as France, which has the largest Muslim population in Western Europe and the United Kingdom.[10][11]"

Etymology and meaning: The word islam is "the infinitive of the fourth form of the Arabic triconsonantal root s-l-m meaning 'to submit,' 'to surrender'";[12] therefore Islam effectively means "submission to God". Followers of Islam are expected to submit to God by worshiping him, following his commands, and avoiding polytheism.[2] The word islam is also based upon the Arabic word for peace (salam) and could be applicible to the religion of Islam if it is taken to mean that "true peace resides in submission to God".[13]
The word islam takes on a number of different meanings in the Qur'an. In some verses (ayat), the quality of Islam as an internal conviction is stressed, for example: "Whomsoever God desires to guide, He expands his breast to Islam."[14] Other verses establish the connection between islam and din (usually translated as "religion"), and assert that only the surrender of one's self to God can render unto him the worship which is his due: "Today, I have perfected your religion (din) for you; I have completed My blessing upon you; I have approved Islam for your religion."[15] The final category of verses describe Islam as an action (of returning to God), more than simply a verbal affirmation.[16][2]
Beliefs

Muslims believe that God revealed his final message to humanity through the Islamic prophet Muhammad via the angel Gabriel.[17] They consider Muhammad to have been God's final prophet, the "Seal of the Prophets", and the Qur'an to be the revelations he received in his 23 years of preaching.[18] Muslims hold that all of God's messengers since Adam preached the message of Islam - submission to the will of the one God. To Muslims, Islam is the eternal religion, described in the Qur'an as "the primordial nature upon which God created mankind".[19][20][clarify] Furthermore, the Qur'an states that the proper name Muslim was given by Abraham.[21][20]

As a historical phenomenon, however, Islam was originated in Arabia in early 7th century.[20] Islamic texts depict Judaism and Christianity as prophetic successor traditions to the teachings of Abraham. The Qur'an calls Jews and Christians "People of the Book", and distinguishes them from polytheists. However, Muslims believe that parts of the previously revealed scriptures, the Tawrat (Torah) and the Injil (Gospels), had become distorted as indicated in the Qur'an - either in interpretation, in text, or both.[22]

Islamic belief has six main components - belief in God; his revelations; his angels; his messengers; the "Day of Judgement"; and the divine decree.[23][24]
God

Allah, God, Islamic concept of God, and Tawhid [no Trinity]. The fundamental concept in Islam is the oneness of God (tawhid): monotheism which is simple and uncompounded, not composed or made up of parts.[25][clarify] The oneness of God is the first of Islam's five pillars, expressed by the Shahadah (testification). By declaring the Shahadah, a Muslim attests to the belief that there are no gods but God, and that Muhammad is God's messenger.[26]

In Arabic, God is called Allah. Etymologically, this name is thought to be derived from a contraction of the Arabic words al- (the) and ilah (deity, masculine form) - al-ilah meaning "the God".[27]

The first sura in a Qur'anic manuscript by Hattat Aziz Efendi.
The Qur'an is considered by Muslims to be the literal word of God, and is the central religious text of Islam. It has also been called, in English, the Koran and, archaically, the Alcoran. The word Qur'an means "recitation".[32] Although the Qur'an is often referred to as a "book", when Muslims speak in the abstract about "the Qur'an", they usually mean the scripture as recited in Arabic rather than the printed work or any translation of it.[33] Muslims believe that the verses of the Qur'an were revealed to Muhammad by God through the Angel Gabriel on numerous occasions between the years 610 and his death on July 6, 632.

References:
1. ^ Teece (2003), p.10
2. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k "Islam", Encyclopaedia of Islam Online
3. ^ Ghamidi (2001): Sources of Islam
4. ^ Esposito (1996), p.41
5. ^ "If...they [Christians] mean that the Qur'an confirms the textual veracity of the scriptural books which they now possess-that is, the Torah and the Gospels-this is something which some Muslims will grant them and which many Muslims will dispute. However, most Muslims will grant them most of that." Ibn Taymiyya cited in Accad (2003)
6. ^ Esposito (1998), p.12; Esposito (2002b), pp.4-5; F. E. Peters (2003), p.9
7. ^ a b c "Muhammad", Encyclopaedia of Islam Online
8. ^ Gregorian (2003), p.ix
9. ^ Esposito (2002b), p.21
10. ^ Muslims in Europe: Country guide. BBC News (2005-12-23). Retrieved on 2006-09-28.
11. ^ Religion In Britain. Office for National Statistics (2003-02-13). Retrieved on 2006-08-27.
12. ^ "Islam", Encyclopedia of the Qur'an (2005)
13. ^ Sells (2003), p.30
14. ^ Qur'an 6:125, Qur'an 61:7, Qur'an 39:22
15. ^ Qur'an 5:3, Qur'an 3:19, Qur'an 3:83
16. ^ Qur'an 9:74, Qur'an 49:14
17. ^ Watton (1993), "Introduction"
18. ^ "Qur'an", Encyclopedia of Christianity (2001)
19. ^ Qur'an 30:30
20. ^ a b c "Islam", Encyclopedia of Religion
21. ^ Qur'an 22:78
22. ^ "Tahrif", Encyclopaedia of Islam Online
23. ^ Sahih Muslim 1:1
24. ^ "Iman", Encyclopaedia of Islam Online
25. ^ "Tawhid", Britannica Concise Encyclopedia
26. ^ Griffith (2006), p.248
27. ^ "Allah", Encyclopaedia of Islam Online
32. ^ a b c Teece (2003), pp.12,13
33. ^ C. Turner (2006), p.42
[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]>>>.

PART B - ON THE QURAN:

Muslims believe that Muhammad (pbuh) received the Quran from an angel, but reality is very different. It is a distorted copy of the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Issac, Ishmael, Noah, Moses, etc., the creator of all there is, the Bible, although most of Islam denies this reality. Details can be found in a recent book review as follows:

<<<" A book review of Christoph Luxenberg, a world renown linguistic scholar, clearly reveals that the Quran is nothing but a distorted knockoff of the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, the Bible.

This book review is contained in, "HUGOYE: JOURNAL OF SYRIAC STUDIES," book review of Christoph Luxenberg (ps.) Die syro-aramaeische Lesart des Koran; Ein Beitrag zur Entschlüsselung der Qur'ansprache. Berlin, Germany: Das Arabische Buch, First Edition, 2000. Pp. ix + 306, Vol. 6, No. 1, January 2003.
[http://syrcom.cua.edu/Hugoye/Vol6No1/HV6N1PRPhenixHorn.html ]

THE evidence:

Let's look at the evidence contained in the book review of Christoph Luxenberg's latest book in German, "Die syro-aramaeische Lesart des Koran; Ein Beitrag zur Entschlüsselung der Qur'ansprache." He clearly shows that the Quran draws on personal names of Biblical origins, that the name "Quran' even indicates its origin, that it was NEVER intended to replace the written source - the Bible, that it was distorted from the writings of Muhammad early on, as follows:

<<<"The rest of the section draws on personal names of Biblical origin in the Qur'an to demonstrate that the so-called Arabic matres lectionis, 'alif, waw, and ya, must also be polyvalent. Luxenberg points out that Islamic tradition admits a reading of the mater for long /a/ in certain instances as /e/ because this pronunciation was a peculiarity of the Arabic of Mecca. Luxenberg shows that the term harf, "sign" must also carry a meaning synonymous to qira'at, "(way of) reading" and that this is not only supplying the vowels in an unvocalized text, but also supplying the diacritical points that distinguish consonants. It is only gradually that these diacritical points became fixed so that consonants came to have just one reading. This process of determining the value of each letter of the Qur'an unfolded over some three hundred years. This is known from the oldest manuscripts of the Qur'an which do not have the diacritical points distinguishing readings of a single consonant. By the time these became commonly used, Arabian commentators were no longer aware that many words were either straight Aramaic or were calques peculiar to Meccan Arabic. From this resulted the difficulties that the Qur'an posed to even the earliest Arabian commentators...

The section concludes by demonstrating that the technical meaning of "lectionary" is preserved in the word qur'an. Most striking is the conclusion that the term umm kitab, an aramaism, must be a written source and that the Qur'an was never intended to replace this written source. One might complain that the details of the argument for the reading of suras 12:1-2 and 3:7 are squeezed into footnotes, but nevertheless the argument is clear. Luxenberg proves that the term qur'an itself is the key to unlocking the passages that have given commentators in and outside of the tradition frustration. If quryan means "lectionary," and if the text itself claims to be a clarification of an earlier text, then that earlier text must be written in another language. The only candidate is the Old and New Testament in Syriac, the Peshitta. Hence the influence of Aramaic on the Arabic of Muhammad has an identifiable, textual origin. At the very end of the work, Luxenberg makes a compelling argument that sura 108 is a close allusion to the Peshitta of 1 Peter 5:8-9. Indeed this sura, which is only three lines long, is one of the most difficult passages for the Arabian as well as the Western commentators. Luxenberg shows why: it is composed of transcriptions into Arabic writing of the Syriac New Testament text, i.e., there is almost no "Arabic" in the sura. These are "revealed" texts, and insofar as the Qur'an contains quotations or paraphrases of them, the Qur'an is also "revealed." ...

Many dialects of Arabic existed at the time of Muhammad. In the ten places where the Qur'an claims to have been written in Arabic, Luxenberg shows first that these passages have grammatical forms which are difficult for the commentators and have varying interpretations among the translators. He notes that in sura 41:44, the Arabic fassala means "to divide," but the context here requires "make distinct" or better "interpret." Nowhere else does the Arabic word have this meaning, and the Syriac-Arabic lexica do not give the one as a translation for the other; tarjama (a direct borrowing from Syriac) is the usual Arabic word for "interpret." However, the Syriac praš / parreš can mean both "divide" as well as "interpret" (like Hebrew hibdil; also this is an example of a "semantic calque" mentioned above). Tabari too understands fassala to be a synonym for bayyana (sura 44:3), which also has the meaning "interpret." Sura 41:44 also clearly attests to a source for the Qur'an that is written in a foreign language. Luxenberg, following Tabari, notes a corruption in the text of this verse that clearly shows that part of the Qur'an has a non-Arabic source. His argument here is somewhat weak if not for the further evidence deduced from eleven other locations in the Qur'an where Luxenberg consistently applies these and similar arguments to difficulties all of which center on the terms related to the revelation and language of the Qur'an. These arguments leave little doubt, that Luxenberg has uncovered a key misunderstanding of these terms throughout the Qur'an....

In section twelve Luxenberg demonstrates that not only the origin and language of the Qur'an are different from what the commentators who wrote two hundred years after its inception claim it to be, but that several key passages contain words or idioms that were borrowed from Syriac into Arabic. From his analysis of sura 19:24 (in the so-called "Marian Sura"): "Then he called to her from beneath her: 'Grieve not; thy Lord hath placed beneath thee a streamlet,'" he concludes that it should be read "He called to her immediately after her laying-down (to give birth 'Grieve not; thy Lord has made your laying-down legitimate.'" Luxenberg's lengthy discussion of the complexities of this passage resolve grammatical difficulties in the Arabic in a way that fits the context: Jesus gives Mary the courage to face her relatives even with a child born out of wedlock. The section then presents lengthy arguments dealing with various lexical, morphological, syntactic and versification problems in sura 11:116-117...

In that same section, one also finds a study of how Syriac roots were misread and altered by later commentators. In one case, the word jaw (sura 16:79) misread "air, atmosphere" is from Syriac gaw, which means both "insides, inner part" and can also be used as a preposition meaning "inside." In sura 16:79 Luxenberg demonstrates that the prepositional use makes more sense than the solution posed by the commentators. Classical Arabic grammar, which was created three hundred years after the Qur'an, does not recall the prepositional meaning of the word. However, dialects of Arabic preserve the original Syriac prepositional use. So where sura 16:79 reads fi jaw as-sama' "in(side) heaven" referring to birds held aloft and kept from falling down by God, the dialects agree: fi jawwat al-bet "inside the house" is perfectly good Arabic. The misreading of Qur'anic Arabic jaw as "air" has become part of the technical vocabulary of modern standard Arabic: "air mail," "air force," "airline," and "weather report" all use jaw. The imaginary meaning of the grammarians lives on. ...

Section sixteen follows this investigation as it points to a similar misreading of paradise's grapes as youths, Arabic wildun. Sura 76:19 "Round amongst them go boys of perpetual youth, whom when one see, he thinks them pearls unstrung" (sura 16.1, citing Bell's translation). Wildun is a genuinely Arabic word, but it is used in a sense which is borrowed from Syriac yalda. Youths like pearls is somewhat suspicious, especially given that "pearls" are a metaphor for the grapes of paradise from the previous section. Luxenberg uncovered that Syriac has the expression yalda dagpetta, "child of the vine," appearing in the Peshitta: Matthew 26:29, Mark 14:25, and Luke 22:18, in which Christ foreshadows his death and resurrection: "I will not drink of this child of the vine (yalda dagpetta) until the day when I drink it new in the kingdom of my Father." Here it is the juice of the grape that is the "child." Entries in the Arabic-Syriac lexica for each of yalda and gpetta give in addition to "child" and "vine" "fruit" and "wine," respectively. Luxenberg gives further evidence from suras 37:45, 43:71, and 76:15 that Ephraem the Syrian's depiction of the grapes of paradise is behind the original Qur'anic text.

A central question that this investigation raises is the motivation of cUthman in preparing his redaction of the Qur'an. Luxenberg presents the two hadith traditions recounting how cUthman came to possess the first manuscript. If Luxenberg's analysis is even in broad outline correct, the content of the Qur'an was substantially different at the time of Muhammad and Uthman's redaction played a part in the misreading of key passages. Were these misreadings intentional or not? The misreadings in general alter the Qur'an from a book that is more or less harmonious with the New Testament and Syriac Christian liturgy and literature to one that is distinct, of independent origin. " [source - book review is contained in, "HUGOYE: JOURNAL OF SYRIAC STUDIES," book review of Christoph Luxenberg (ps.) Die syro-aramaeische Lesart des Koran; Ein Beitrag zur Entschlüsselung der Qur'ansprache. Berlin, Germany: Das Arabische Buch, First Edition, 2000. Pp. ix + 306, Vol. 6, No. 1, January 2003.]>>>.

THE Reality:

Muhammad (pbuh) had Christians in his family from whom he learned about the Bible from and scribes to read it to him as he was illiterate. After learning much about the Bible, he started dictating to his scribes what he wanted written down, and as all know a process like this can only product a distorted product as compared to the original, the inspired word of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, and Jacob, creator of all there is, the Bible.

Now most in Islam will not agree with this reality, the truth, per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but the facts sustain it. Let's look at his connection to Christianity through his relatives as reported in an Islamic source.

Many Muslims have argued that Muhammad only met Jews or Christians only on very few occasions, by far too short to be sufficient to gain any real knowledge of the earlier scriptures. In particular, they were not translated into Arabic at this time. The content of the Qur'an therefore does not come from human sources but can only be through direct revelation from God.

I agree that the scriptures probably did not exist in Arabic at that time, at least not completely or widely known, but with the other statements I am not in agreement. And even the non-existence of scriptures in Arabic is irrelevant as we will see in the following.

The Muslim sources tell us about a certain Waraqa bin Nawfal and in what way Muhammad was related to him.
<<<"Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3: Narrated 'Aisha:

(the mother of the faithful believers) The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good dreams which came true like bright day light, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continuously for many days before his desire to see his family. He used to take with him the journey food for the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read.

The Prophet added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?' Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous." (96.1, 96.2, 96.3) Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, "I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your Kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving calamity-afflicted ones."

Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Nawfal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the PreIslamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to Waraqa, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" Allah's Apostle described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, "This is the same one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they drive me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone (man) who came with something similar to what you have brought was treated with hostility; and if I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while. ...

Some essential statements above:
1. "his desire to see his family."
2. "You keep good relations with your Kith and kin"

This shows that Muhammad was a "family man", and given that the middle eastern culture is well known for its family orientedness (something I very much appreciate in Muslims) and that in this setting Muhammad was seemingly even a very good example (otherwise this would not have been mentioned as special virtue) we can deduce that he probably spend much time with his relatives keeping a good relationship, and that means regular visiting.

Furthermore, nobody will deny that Muhammad was already religious before he had this first encounter in the cave on Mt. Hira. After all, he went there to meditate and pray. As the hadith says, it was a habit of his: "He USED to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continuously for many days..."

The big question now is:
What will such a religious man talk about when he visits his relatives? Would it be too much to guess that religion will be a major part of these conversations?
And what do we see happening here when Muhammad is disturbed and frightened by a "religious experience"? After calming down a bit at home with his wife, who is the person they visit first?

Waraqa bin Nawfal. Seemingly, he is seen by Khadija and Muhammad as an authority in spiritual matters. And he is the cousin of his wife. And he is a Christian familiar with the scriptures since, after all, he is making copies of the scriptures, whether for personal study or for a fellowship/church of Christians.
So, these are the facts:">>>.

So Islam's argument that he, Muhammad (pbuh) had little contact with either Jews or Christians is an outright lie as is the other claims made for the Quran. Most of the other claims are quite similar to those of Joseph Smith for the Book of Mormon; to wit, the book was received from an angel.

PART C - THE MYTHICAL GOD, THE OLD MIDDLE EASTERN CELESTIAL MOON GOD, "ALLAH," WHO ONLY EXIST IN THE IMAGINATIONS OF DECEIVED MEN, BUT HAS NO PHYSICAL EXISTANCE,

Many in Islam claim their god is the same as the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, and Jacob, creator of all there is, but this is not true as will be shown:

Origins of the word "Allah," let's look at the facts from renown historical sources:

The well-known Middle East scholar H.A.R. Gibb has pointed out that the reason that Muhammad never had to explain who Allah was in the Quran is that his listeners had already heard about Allah long before Muhammad was ever born [source - (Mohammedanism: An Historical Survey, New York: Mentor Books, 1955, p.38)].

Dr. Arthur Jeffery, one of the foremost Western Islamic scholars in modern times and professor of Islamic and Middle East Studies at Columbia University, notes:

"The name Allah, as the Quran itself is witness, was well known in pre-Islamic Arabia. Indeed, both it and its feminine form, Allat, are found not infrequently among the theophorous names in inscriptions from North Africa" [source - Islam: Muhammad, and His Religion, New York: The Liberal Arts Press, 1958, p. 85].

The word "Allah" comes from the compound Arabic word, al-ilah. Al is the definite article "the" and ilah is an Arabic word for "god." It is not a foreign word. It is not even the Syriac word for God. It is pure Arabic. [source - There is an interesting discussion of the origins of Allah, in "Arabic Lexicographical Miscellanies" by J. Blau in the Journal of Semitic Studies, Vol. XVII, #2, 1972, pp. 173-190].

Neither is Allah a Hebrew or Greek word for God as found in the Bible. Allah is a purely Arabic term used in reference to an Arabian deity. [source - Hastings' Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics I:326, T & T Clark], states:

SEE PART 2 IN VOL 587.

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