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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE INTENT OF BIBLE WRITERS

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 931A]

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows. Mark 13:8, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Today, we are living in the end-times close to its conclusion and the arrival of Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) Kingdom prayed for at Matthew 6:9 – 10, [AV] “After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.” Yes, the earth shall be made over, and righteousness shall prevail as testified to in Psalms 37: , [AV] “But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off. 39 But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble. 40 And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.” And as Pslams 55:22 -23, shows, [AV] “Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved. 23 But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.”

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[2] THE INTENT OF BIBLE WRITERS

What was the 'intent' of the Biblical writers? Was it to prove that this person called Jesus was a man, or a God/man? Why did it take centuries to finalize the concept of who Jesus was? What was lacking in the Biblical text requiring "Church Fathers" to seek outside help in explaining the person of the Savior? Why was it that the common, ordinary "Joe" of that time period understood Jesus to be a man as portrayed by the Bible writers, and not a God/man? What did "Joe" not have that the learned clergy had? Why was there so much reliance on Greek philosophy? Was Greek philosophy superior to the inspired word? Would there have been a three-in-one "economy" concept without Plato? If the original Bible writers were so inspired by the Great Jehovah himself, why did they not use philosophical language and concepts in the written word? Why do they not quote the Greek classical writers? When the Bible writers spoke of Jesus as a "man", why did they not stop and explain that they really meant a God/man? Were the Jews not open to such a concept? Would they have accepted such a radical anti-Jewish thought? How would they have reacted if one of the Gosple writers had said, "By the way, this man standing beside me is God himself. I know he looks like a man but he is really Jehovah God himself"?

Trying to describe supernatural events with the limits of observation and language is one of the great challenges for writers of the Bible and in science and history as well. Prof. Hawkins use of 'Singularity' in his wave theory is a case in point, it works but not completely. Moses described the burning bush but not the manipulation of the physics involved, and so it goes. And then there is Jesus. Even with 2000 years of contemplation he still exceeds our abilities to fully grasp what happened. It's easy to see how early followers conjoined him with Jehovah as a way to simplify and explain in their minds all the events that happened to him. You could also take the tack that Hislop does in the Two Babylons that the conjoining was done intentionally to obscure the truth. From reading some of the early church fathers writings you can see both schools at work. And then there's the whole use words that in English we would normally reserve for God Almighty being given to humans like Moses who was told to be the God of Pharaoh, and angels and priests and of course Jesus. A favorite passage of mine is the 1st chapter of Hebrews. It explains so much and yet leaves so much to ponder. Like Galileo's statement "the Bible teaches us how to go to heaven not how heaven goes."

Second, there are in the [Aurhorized King James Bible; AV] only superficial instances that seem to be for your view point; whereas, there are substantial evidence for the three being distinctly different as follows:

• Almighty God (YHWH) is the superior over everything and is without equal. “ Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” (Exodus 20:3 AV), and he has always existed, “ Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.” (Psalms 90:2 AV). Everything is subordinate to him. He gave his son an assignment and the power to carry it out, “23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:20-28 AV).

• Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), Almighty God’s only begotten son, the first born (made) of all creation “ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” (Revelation 3:14 AV), “ Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:” (Colossians 1:15 AV), etc. He was clearly called:
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2 Corinthians 1:19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

• The Holy Spirit, God’s (YHWH’s) active force. For extensive details on this force in motion of Almighty God, see Discourse on the Holy Spirit.

To brake words down as you call it, although it is not that, I am using Strongs Greek/Hebrew-Chaldean dictionary with Strong # available at any seminary or theology school, at every Bible translation committee, in the possession of almost all Bible scholars, and also in my book collection. Even the Catholic translators like Rev. Msgr. Myles M. Bourke, Rev. Frederick W. Danker, Rev. Alexander A. Di Lella, O.F.M., use it.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE RARE FRUITS OR VEGETABLES Solanum chessmanii - -

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 932A]

And Jacob lifted up his eyes, and looked, and, behold, Esau came, and with him four hundred men. And he divided the children unto Leah, and unto Rachel, and unto the two handmaids. 2 And he put the handmaids and their children foremost, and Leah and her children after, and Rachel and Joseph hindermost. Genesis 33:1 – 2, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

For many years Jacob and his brother Esau had been at odds, but when an actual meeting was going to occur, Jacob was preparing for trouble, but the exact opposite occurred as shown at Genesis 33:3 - 4, [AV] “And he passed over before them, and bowed himself to the ground seven times, until he came near to his brother. 4 And Esau ran to meet him, and embraced him, and fell on his neck, and kissed him: and they wept.” They had not let past resentment harboring stand in the way of brotherly love, and neither should we.

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the Galapagos Island Tomato, Solanum chessmanii,
A small wild tomato native to the Galapagos Islands. Fruits are small, somewhat like the currant tomato. They ripen to a yellow-orange color and are edible, with a good, typical acid tomato flavor. The plant is of particular interest for its resistance to a number of tomato pests and has been used to cross breed with regular tomatoes to confer desired traits.
Description
A bushy annual with a standard tomato growth habit. Plants may reach 3-5ft and are most similar to certain cherry tomato varieties in growth and fruit production. The Galapagos Island tomato is distinctive and ornamental in a tomato garden, having smaller, ruffled leaves and profuse flowers. Fruits ripen quickly, in 50-60 days and seem to enjoy hot weather to set.
Hardiness
Not frost hardy.
Growing Environment
Grow like any tomato. Water regularly. Grow in full sun. In our experience plants only set fruit when weather is warm, unlike a number of standard tomato varieties.
Propagation
By seeds. Seeds generally germinate readily, but need several weeks germination time, especially if pulp capsule remains around seed. Germinate in 75-85F, moist soil. This species seems to be slower to germinate than standard tomatoes.
Uses
The fruits are edible and have a nice flavor. They are said to be popular with Galapagos Tortoises in their native range. The plants are of interest to tomato breeders as they are used to confer a number of desirable traits into standard tomato species. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/lycopersicon-cheesmanii.htm ON 5/ 24/2018]
Pictures of this plant and tomato can be found at http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/lycopersicon-cheesmanii.htm

In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

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COMBINATION OF VOL 933A - ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH)IS ONE JEHOVAH AND NOT A PLURALITY

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 933A]

But unto Hannah he gave a worthy portion; for he loved Hannah: but the LORD had shut up her womb. 6 And her adversary also provoked her sore, for to make her fret, because the LORD had shut up her womb. 7 And as he did so year by year, when she went up to the house of the LORD, so she provoked her; therefore she wept, and did not eat. 8 Then said Elkanah her husband to her, Hannah, why weepest thou? and why eatest thou not? and why is thy heart grieved? am not I better to thee than ten sons? 1 Samuel 1:6 – 8, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Here we are dealing with a polygamous marriage where Hannah the first wife was being abused and harassed unfairly by the second wife. She answered not her husband with respect her sorrow, but prayed unto the lord for deliverance. This is shown at 1 Samuel 1:10 – 11, [AV] “And she was in bitterness of soul, and prayed unto the LORD, and wept sore. 11 And she vowed a vow, and said, O LORD of hosts, if thou wilt indeed look on the affliction of thine handmaid, and remember me, and not forget thine handmaid, but wilt give unto thine handmaid a man child, then I will give him unto the LORD all the days of his life, and there shall no razor come upon his head.” She promised that if given a son, he would be given to the Lord’s service. Later the Lord removed her bareness and she produced a son whom she gave over to serve the Lord all his days, the Prophet Samuel. And as Psalms 34:18 – 19, says, [AV] “The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. 19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.”

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[2] ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH)IS ONE JEHOVAH AND NOT A PLURALITY

Also on the Trinity points: THE Bible teaching that God is one is called monotheism. And L. L. Paine, professor of ecclesiastical history, indicates that monotheism in its purest form does not allow for a Trinity: "The O.T. is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a trinity is to be found there . . . is utterly without foundation." Was there any change from monotheism after Jesus came to the earth? Paine answers: "On this point there is no break between the O.T. and the New. The monotheistic tradition is continued. Jesus was a Jew, trained by Jewish parents in the O.T. scriptures. His teaching was Jewish to the core; a new gospel indeed, but not a new theology. . . . And he accepted as his own belief the great text of Jewish monotheism: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord (Jehovah; AS, LB, Young's, Darby's) our God is one God.'" Those words are found at Deuteronomy 6:4. The Catholic New Jerusalem Bible (NJB) here reads: "Listen, Israel: Yahweh our God is the one, the only Yahweh." In the grammar of that verse, the word "one" has no plural modifiers to suggest that it means anything but one individual. "Should You Believe In the Trinity" pgs. 12,13 When the descendants of Abraham journeyed down into Egypt, there they came across a whole selection of different gods. According to Wilkinson, Egypt had many gods, the greatest of whom were Neph, Amun, Pthah, Khem, Sati, Maut and Bubastis. Ra and Seb were the first of the second class of Egyptian deities. The Egyptians believed that Neph made the sun and moon revolve. Pthah was worshiped as the creator. Khem was the god of agriculture. Ra was worshiped as a sun-god and his son Seb represented time. The ancient Egyptians also worshiped a trinity made up of Osiris, Isis and Horus, namely, father, mother and son. This trinity is precisely the same as that worshiped in Christendom. It has been handed down from ancient Egypt and Babylon. Jehovah vindicated his supremacy over all the gods of Egypt when he disgraced them with ten plagues and destroyed the Egyptian forces in the Red Sea. Following the Red Sea victory the Israelites sang to Jehovah's praise: "This is my God, and I shall laud him; my father's God, and I shall raise him on high. Jehovah is a manly person of war. Jehovah is his name. . . . Who among the gods is like you, O Jehovah?" There is none.-Ex. 15:2, 3, 11. w58 12/15 p.742 Because of the polytheistic worship of the land of Egypt, the reason for the statement at Deut.6:4 becomes apparent. "Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. (Or, "Jehovah is our God, Jehovah is one [or, there is one Jehovah]." Lit., "Jehovah our God [is] Jehovah one." Heb., Yehwah' ´Elo·heh'nu Yehwah' ´e·chadh'. (compare Jesus' words at Mk.12:29) see also Lev.18:1,2 The Isarelites were command not to do the same as the nations around them. Ex. 23:23-25,32,33; 34:14,15; Nu. 33:52; Deut. 6:12-15; 7:24-25; A scripture that applies even to us today can be found at Rev. 18:2,4(AV) 2. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 4. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Hello Kaz, Edgar, and Nathan, I liked your comments, Edgar concerning God's name being important in the lives of true Christians. Acts 15:14 is excellent in showing that, but I also like verse 17 as well. From the NWT: "in order that those who remain of the men may earnestly seek Jehovah, together with people of all the nations, people who are called by my name says Jehovah, who is doing these things. It always amazes me how opposers of the Divine Name shy away from using God's name. Many of these people (scholars, critics, etc.) say that since we aren't sure how to pronounce it, we shouldn't use it at all. But yet, these same so-called scholars and critics, as well as all modern and not so modern Bible translators don't have a problem with these names: Je-ho' ad-dah (possibly, Jehovah Has Decked Himself) Je-ho-ad' din (Jehovah is Pleasure) Je-ho' a-haz (May Jehovah Take Hold; Jehovah Has Taken Hold) Je-ho' ash (Jehovah Bestows, Is Giver. often abbreviated to "Joash") Je-ho-ha'nan (Jehovah Has Shown Favor; Jehovah Has Been Gracious) Je-hoi' a-chin (probably, Jehovah Has Firmly Established) Je-hoi' a-da (May Jehovah Know) Je-hoi' a-kim (possibly, Jehovah Raises Up) Je-hoi' a Rib (May Jehovah Contend; Jehovah Has Conducted Our Legal Case) Je-hon' a-dab (Jehovah Is Willing; Noble; Generous) Je-hon' a-than (Jehovah Has Given) Je-ho' ram (Jehovah Is High; Exalted). Je-ho-shab' e-ath (Jehovah Is Plenty Je-hosh' a phat (Jehovah Is Judge) Je-hosh' e-ba (Jehovah Is Plenty) Je-hosh' u-a (Jehovah Is Salvation) Je-hosh' a-bad (Probably, Jehovah Has Endowed) Je-hoz' a-dak (Probably, Jehovah Pronounces Righteous) All of these names are found in every Bible Translation I have checked, including The Holy Scriptures, by the Jewish Publication Society. All these names have the first two syllables of God's name (in English) JE-HO' (or derivatives) incorporated into them. While most Bible translators hesitate to translate God's name (JHVH) as "Jehovah" into their translations, THEY DO NOT HESITATE to translate the above names, as written above, into their translations, even though these names are derived from the Divine Name, JEHOVAH! Doesn't this seem like an inconsistent translation practice to you? Evidently these translators don't have a problem using the first two syllables of God's Divine Name, but not the third! Go figure!

YAH or YAHU - The 'Personal' Name of the 'God of Israel' by which He anciently revealed Himself to Moses (EXODUS 6:2). 'YAH' is spelt in original Hebrew, with the 10th letter of the Hebrew alphabet - the 'yood', smallest letter in the alphabet, represented by the inverted comma ( ' ). YAHU also has the meaning of 'He is YAH'

This Name, through recent archeological discoveries in Israel, has been found to be part of more Hebrew words and names than were formerly known. There is an untold number of usages in the Tanach ('Old Testament') where this form of the Sacred Name is used as a conjunction in Biblical names. Some of the more common examples of these are:
EliYahu ('Elijah')
YeremiYahu ('Jeremiah')
YeshiYahu ('Isaiah')
YahuShafat ('Josephat')
NetanYahu (also the name of former Israeli Prime Minister)
YahuNatan ('Jonethan')
and of course, the Messianic Salvation Name YAHU'SHUAH ('Yeshuah')
[http://www.revelations.org.za/NotesS-Name.htm]

The major Messianic editions of the NT have not included the sacred name. However even in some rabbinic circles it has become accepted and helpful to include the sacred name translated with the four consonants YHWH or YHVW (for example the Fox translation). Moreover the majority of NT versions (Messianic or otherwise) which have included the Sacred name have done so only by way of guesswork. since the Greek NT does not distinguish "Lord" from "YHWH". However the HRV includes the sacred name throughout the NT based on real manuscript evidence found in the Hebrew and Aramaic manuscripts which distinguish ADONAI/Lord from YHWH.

We know from both the Tosefta and Talmuds (ancient Jewish writings) that certain (Hebrew and Aramaic?) New Testament manuscripts contained the name of YHWH in their text (t.Shab. 13:5; b.Shab. 116a; j.Shab. 15c). Now our Hebrew and Aramaic manuscripts preserve for us knowledge of where "Lord" in the NT was YHWH and where it was ADON/ADONAI.

The DuTillet Hebrew manuscript of Matthew repeats the Hebrew letter YUD two or three times in a circle so as to mark places where the name of YHWH should go. The Shem Tob Hebrew version of Matthew has the Hebrew letter HEY standing alone (and in one place the word HASHEM spelled out) to mark places where the name of YHWH belongs. The Munster Hebrew text of Matthew actually contains the name off YHWH spelled out where it belongs. The Old Syriac, Peshitta and Crawford Aramaic manuscripts of NT books also distinguish between YHWH and ADON/ADONAI. These Aramaic manuscripts have Aramaic MARYA for YHWH and Aramaic MAR (or MARI or MARAN) for ADON/ADONAI. Now we have objective manuscript evidence to support placement of the sacred name into the NT text, the era of guesswork is over. [http://www.nazarene.net/hrv/sacredname.html]

This is another important feature which makes the HRV unique when compared to other Messianic editions.
Just as the manuscript order of the books of the Tanak (OT), (followed by Judaism) does not agree with the ordering of the same books in the Christian "Old Testament" as printed today, so also does the manuscript order of the NT differ. The ancient manuscript order of the books of the "New Testament" has first the "Gospels" then "Acts" followed by the Jewish Epistles (Ya,akov (James); 1 & 2 Kefa (Peter); 1, 2 & 3 Yochanan (John) and Y'hudah (Jude)) followed by the Pauline epistles which are followed by Revelation. This order was rearranged by Rome in the Latin Vulgate in which the Pauline epistles were given first place and the Jewish epistles given second place.

The original manuscript order had an important significance. It agreed with the precept that the message was to the Jews first and then to the Goyim (Gentiles). It also agrees with the concept that Ya'akov, Kefa and Yochanan were emissaries that come BEFORE Paul (Gal. 117) and with the concept that Kefa, Ya'akov and Yochanan served as three pillars which lend authority upon which Paul's message was built (Gal. 29) and not vice-versa. The reader of the NT was intended to read the "Jewish" epistles FIRST and then to read the Pauline epistles already having understood the Jewish epistles. The NT reader was intended to read Ya'akov's (James') admonition concerning faith and works (Ya'akov 2) as well as Kefa's warnings about Paul being difficult to understand and often twisted (1Kefa 315-16) etc. before ever attempting to understand the writings of Paul. The HRV follows the ancient manuscript order (which agrees also with the order of the ancient Aramaic manuscripts) in placing the "Jewish epistles" immediately after Acts and placing the Pauline Epistles AFTER them. [http://www.nazarene.net/hrv/order.html]

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] OUT WITH THE OLD, BACK IN WITH THE RENEWED

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 934A]

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. John 14:16 – 17, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, the Comforter sent after Jesus (Yeshua) went to heaven was none other than Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) active force the Holy Spirit. And luke 11:13, [AV] “If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?” which is further shown at Ephesians 1:13, [AV] “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,” Therefore we should seek to do righteousness and not per Ephesians 4:30, [AV] “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”

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[2] OUT WITH THE OLD, BACK IN WITH THE RENEWED!

Replacement Theology got its start with Roman Catholicism ("Universalism"), which was a hybridization of Mithraic sun worship (Luciferism) and the original Nazarene Messianic faith (Acts 24:5, Acts 28:22).

While the Protestant Reformation did away with many of the luciferic ills of Roman Catholicism, they also retained a number of the self-same satanic corruptions that tainted the original Nazarene Israelite faith. For instance, the Protestants continued to observe the Sun-day instead of the Sabbath, and they observed Christmas (Saturnalia) and Easter (Ishtar) instead of the Feasts of YHWH (as found at Leviticus 23). Further, they continued to call the Tanach (the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings) the "Old" Testament, based upon the false premise that everything “old” and “Jewish” was now all passe.

However, despite the lies inherent in Catholicism and Protestant Christianity, many Torah scholars point out that from the time of the Garden of Eden, the requirement for those that worship YHWH has always been to obey the Father's commands!

In Hebrews 11 we learn that it was disobedience that got Adam and Havvah (“Eve”) kicked out of the Garden of Eden. It was obedience that saved Noah, and it was obedience for which Avraham was blessed. And it was obedience even unto a cross that saved humanity (Philippians 2:8).

At the time of the New (or Renewed) Covenant, the additional requirement was made to believe in the Son, so that one could then be filled with the Spirit. Yet although the requirement to believe in the Son and accept the Spirit was added, the requirement to obey was never repealed, as Yahshua Himself tells us,

“Do not think that I came that I came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets. I came not to destroy, but to fulfill.” Mattithyahu 5:17

and,

"If you love Me, keep My commandments" Yochanan (John) 14:15.

Some deduce from this verse that those who keep His commandments are the only ones who truly love Him; and indeed, it is hard to dispute this logic.

It has also been suggested that those who teach that there is no requirement to obey Him must not truly love Him. (This would be distinct from those who would have obeyed, but did not know that there was any requirement to obey because they been led astray by false shepherds, as in Jeremiah 23.)
[http://www.regathering.com/The%20Law%20The%20Names%20and%20Jesus.doc][ Norman Willis, nwillis@regathering.com General Overseer The Israelite sect of the Nazarenes Re-establishing the original faith of the apostles]

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] ADAM BROUGHT SIN AND THUS DEATH; JESUS (YESHUA OR YHWH SAVES) BROUGHT RIGHTEOUSNESS AND THUS LIFE.

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 935A]

Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it. 20 To what purpose cometh there to me incense from Sheba, and the sweet cane from a far country? your burnt offerings are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet unto me. Jeremiah 6:19 – 20, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Whereas, James 1:21 – 27 clearly shows how we must live our lives to be pleasing to Almighty God (YHWH), [AV] “Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain. 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.”

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[2] ADAM BROUGHT SIN AND THUS DEATH; JESUS (YESHUA OR YHWH SAVES) BROUGHT RIGHTEOUSNESS AND THUS LIFE.

The Scripture says that what Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) did was both like and unlike what Adam did. His act was like Adam's in that because we were in the loins of Adam when he sinned we participated in that sin and thus came under condemnation (Rom. 5:12-14), and just so Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) came bearing our corporate humanity so that we were also in Him when He lived a righteous life, died and was resurrected. That is why Paul says in Romans 6 that when we were baptized we were baptized into Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves)' death so that the old man (our Adamic life) is dead and we now have a new life that eminates from Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) and is one of righteousness toward Yahweh (YHWH). Again in Romans 7 Paul says that through the body of Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) we died to the Law, because when He died, we being in Him died (see 2 Cor. 5:14). This releases us from the Law because when one has died he has been aquitted (Rom.6:7). That is why Paul writes in Romans 8:1 that those who are in Christ Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) are not under condemnation.

What Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) did is different from what Adam did in that Adam's one sin brought condemnation and death to the many, but Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves)' act of righteousness covers the one sin plus all that we commit (Rom.5:15-19).

Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) is often spoken of as a ransom, but that language is not used in reference to recovering what Adam lost, though in effect his ransom act accomplishes that. The idea of ransom is because Jesus (Yeshua or YHWH saves) was given to humanity for eternity for our redemption; a ransom is not given temporarily but is given over forever. He became one of us and, though He was raised with a glorified body, He is still and always will be our brother, the last Adam, or the new head of our
race, for the eternal life we gain is not the Adamic life recovered, but the giving of His own life to us (Luke 24:36-39; John 2:18-22; 12:23-24; 15:1-6; 20:26-27; Romans 8:18-23; Philippians 3:20-21; 1 Tim. 2: 5-6; Heb. 2:10-18).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] QUESTIONS MANY ASK AND THE ANSWERS IN BRIEF FORM

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 936A]

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. James 2:18, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, our actions will show whether we have real faith. We must live by faith, Habakkuk 2:2 - 4, [AV] “And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it. 3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry. 4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.” But we must believe in Almighty God’S (YHWH’S) promises and seek to do his will and not go chasing after false creeds and doctrines. Yes, belief in His existence is insufficient as James 2:19 – 20 says, [AV] “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”

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[2] QUESTIONS MANY ASK AND THE ANSWERS IN BRIEF FORM

1:If god exists and is a perfect creator, how could his creation man, get tricked into eating the forbidden fruit in Eden?
The account says that Eve was tricked but that Adam deliberately disobeyed.
Adam had freedom of choice.

Some Christians say its because god gave us free will, but if someone can chose the wrong thing or get tricked he is not perfect, even with free will a perfect being (image after god) should not make a mistake like this.
If Man does not have freedom of choice, then our freedom of worship and even to love God and our fellowman cannot be genuine - from the heart.

2: Why didn’t god create everything right from the start, in that case he would not need to drown the entire world except an ark with some people and animals on it.
He did create everything right. At the conclusion of each day of creation what He declared that what he did was "good".

He had to drown or give the Earth a bath because of evil supernatural contamination. Angels left their heavenly abode and lived among humans which both contaminated the human gene pool with hybrid murderous offspring which were taking women and was doing away with men.

The rebellious angels and their murderous offspring were incorrigible. The flood would force the angels to vacate the Earth and put an end to their hybrid offspring. The ark was for humans too as well as some of the animals. Unfortunately, few humans took the offer to be in the ark for survival.

If he is perfect he would know before he started creating everything that it would fail. Why don’t do something about at once, instead of waiting so long?

I don't believe God expected or wanted failure.

And we can take a queue from the days of creation. God didn't snap His fingers and had things instantly develop but had things develop as gradually as possible so that other intelligent beings can see and wonder at His activities. (Job 38:1-7)
He also allowed time for rebellion to fully manifest itself so that anyone can intelligently see the bad fruitage that comes with rebellion against God. Neither can anyone intelligently object that God acted rashly or that He didn't allow alternatives to His ways of doing things the test if they would succeed.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE RARE FRUIT AND VEGETABLES - Aframomum melegueta

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 937A]

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. Revelation 18:4 – 8, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

In ancient times, Almighty God (YHWH) had His prophet Micah give warning of a future judgment for all of mankind at Micah 3:8 – 12, [AV] “But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin. 9 Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity. 10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity. 11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us. 12 Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest.”

And Jude at Jude 4 warns of evil men creeping into the Christian faith, [AV] “4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” He goes on to inform us of the fact that they are reserved up for judgment at Jude 5 – 7, [AV] “I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the Aframomum melegueta is a species in the ginger family, Zingiberaceae. This spice, commonly known as ossame, grains of paradise, Melegueta pepper, alligator pepper, Guinea grains, fom wisa, or Guinea pepper, is obtained from the ground seeds; it imparts a pungent, peppery flavour with hints of citrus.
Although it is native to West Africa, it is also an important cash crop in the Basketo district (Basketo special woreda) of southern Ethiopia.[1] The Pepper Coast (or Grain Coast) where currently exists the Republic of Liberia, is a historical coastal region named after this commodity.
Characteristics
Aframomum melegueta is a herbaceous perennial plant native to swampy habitats along the West African coast. Its trumpet-shaped, purple flowers develop into 5- to 7-cm long pods containing numerous small, reddish-brown seeds.
The pungent, peppery taste of the seeds is caused by aromatic ketones; e.g., (6)-paradol (systematic name: 1-(4-hydroxy-3-methoxyphenyl)-decan-3-one). Essential oils, which are the dominating flavor components in the closely related cardamom,[2] occur only in traces.
The stem at times can be short and usually shows signs of scars and fallen leaves. The average leaves are usually 35 cm in length and 15 cm wide, with a well-structured vascular system. The flowers of the herbaceous plant are described as "handsome" aromatic, with an orange-colored lip and rich pinkish-orange upper part. The fruits contains numerous, small, golden red-brown seeds.
Uses
A. melegueta pods at a market in São João dos Angolares, São Tomé Island. The fruits are eaten raw in that nation's cuisine and the local name is ossame.
Melegueta pepper is commonly used in the cuisines of West and North Africa, where it has been traditionally imported by caravan routes through the Sahara desert, and whence they were distributed to Sicily and the rest of Italy. Mentioned by Pliny as "African pepper" but subsequently forgotten in Europe, they were renamed "grains of paradise" and became a popular substitute for black pepper in Europe in the 14th and 15th centuries.[3][4][5] The Ménagier de Paris recommends it for improving wine that "smells stale". Through the Middle Ages and into the early modern period, the theory of the four humours governed theories about nourishment on the part of doctors, herbalists and druggists: in this context, John Russell characterized grains of paradise in The Boke of Nurture as hot and moist.[6]
In 1469 King Afonso V of Portugal granted the monopoly of trade in the Gulf of Guinea to Lisbon merchant Fernão Gomes,[7] including the exclusive trade of Aframomum melegueta, then called "malagueta" pepper - which was granted by 100,000 real-annually in exchange for exploring 100 miles of the coast of Africa a year for five years.[8] After Christopher Columbus reached the New World in 1492 and brought the first samples of Capsicum frutescens, the name malagueta was then taken to the new chili "pepper".[4] Malagueta, thanks to its low price, remained popular in Europe even after the Portuguese opened the direct maritime route to the Spice Islands around 1500.[9]
The importance of the spice is shown by the designation of the area from the St. Johns River (present day Buchanan) to Harper in Liberia as the "Grain Coast" in honor of the availability of grains of paradise.[10] Later, the craze for the spice waned, and its uses were reduced to a flavoring for sausages and beer. In the 18th century, its importation to Great Britain collapsed after a Parliamentary act of George III forbade its use in malt liquor, aqua vita, and cordials.[11] In 1855 England imported about 15,000 to 19,000 lbs per year legally (duty paid).[10] By 1880 the Encyclopædia Britannica (9th edition) was reporting, "Grains of paradise are to some extent used in veterinary practice, but for the most part illegally to give a fictitious strength to malt liquors, gin, and cordials".[12]
The presence of the seeds in the diets of lowland gorillas in the wild seems to have some sort of salubrious effect on their cardiovascular health. They also eat the plant and use it for nesting material. The absence of the seeds in the diets of captive lowland gorillas may contribute to their occasionally poor cardiovascular health in zoos.[13][14]
Today the condiment is sometimes used in gourmet cuisine as a replacement for pepper or to give unique flavors in some craft beers, gins, and Norwegian akvavit. Grains of paradise are starting to enjoy a slight resurgence in popularity in America due to their use by some well-known chefs. Alton Brown is a fan of the condiment, and he uses it in okra stew and his apple pie recipe on an episode of the TV cooking show, Good Eats.[15] Grains of paradise are also used by people on certain diets, such as a raw food diet, because they are considered less irritating to digestion than black pepper.
Properties
In West African folk medicine, grains of paradise are valued for their warming and digestive properties, and among the Efik people in Nigeria have been used for divination and ordeals determining guilt.[16] A. melegueta has been introduced to the Caribbean and Latin America, where it is used in religious (voodoo) rites.[17][18]
References
• "Southern Nations Nationalities and People’s Region (SNNPR) Livelihood Profiles: Regional Overview", FEWS NET (January 2005), p. 27 (accessed 18 May 2009)
• 'Grains of paradise' are listed among the unofficial varieties of Cardamum Seed in the 25th ed. of the Dispensatory of the United States of America (1955) p. 257, Paul E. Beichner notes, in "The Grain of Paradise" Speculum 36.2 (April 1961:302-307) p 303. Beichner suggests the miraculous greyn of The Prioress's Tale was grains of paradise.
• Several recipes in Two Fifteenth-century Cookery-Books, Thomas Austin, ed, Early English Texts Society, 91 (1888), noted in passing by Beichner 1961, under the names graynys of parise, graynis of parys Graynys of Perys, and simply Graynis.
• Daniel F. Austin, "Florida ethnobotany", p. 170, CRC Press, 2004, ISBN 0-8493-2332-0
• "Its popularity may have been due to the brilliant name thought up for it by some advertising genius born before his times" observes Maguelonne Toussaint-Samat, Anthea Bell, tr., The History of Food, revised ed. 2009, p. 446.
• Noted, with other examples of fiery and watery grains of paradise, by Beichner 1961, p. 304, note 8; cardamom, with which it was often confused, as Cardamomum maius and Cardamomum minus, was reported by Dioscurides as hot and dry in its qualities, as recorded in the late 13th-century Herbal of Rufinus (Beichner, p. 305f).
• "O Contrato de Fernão Gomes" (in Portuguese). Archived from the original on 3 December 2013. Retrieved 2006-12-24.
• Thorn, Rob. "Discoveries After Prince Henry". Retrieved 2006-12-24.
• Guidi Bruscoli, Francesco (2014). Bartolomeo Marchionni, «homem de grossa fazenda» (ca. 1450-1530). Firenze: Leo S. Olschki editore. pp. 92–93. ISBN 9788822263001.
• Laurie's Sailing Directory for the Ethiopic or Southern Atlantic Ocean to the Rio de la Plata, Cape Horn, and the Cape of Good Hope etc., including the Islands between the two coasts; 4th Edition 1855
• Peter Kup, A history of Sierra Leone, 1400-1787 (Cambridge University)
• Baynes, T.S.; Smith, W.R., eds. (1880). "Grains of Paradise". Encyclopædia Britannica. 11 (9th ed.). New York: Charles Scribner's Sons.
• "Gorilla diet protects heart: grains of paradise". Asknature.org. February 20, 2012. Retrieved April 18, 2012.
• Dybas, Cheryl Lyn, Ilya Raskin, photographer, "Out of Africa: A Tale of Gorillas, Heart Disease... and a Swamp Plant" BioScience, 57 (May 2007) pp. 392–397. Fulltext.
• "Apple of My Pie", season 11, episode 15.
• Simmons, Donald C. (1956). "Efik Divination, Ordeals, and Omens". Southwestern Journal of Anthropology. 12 (2): 223–228.
• Voeks, Robert (2013). "Ethnobotany of Brazil's African Diaspora: The Role of Floristic Homogenization". African Ethnobotany in the Americas: 395–416. doi:10.1007/978-1-4614-0836-9_14.
• Moret, Erica S. (2013). "Trans-Atlantic Diaspora Ethnobotany: Legacies of West African and Iberian Mediterranean Migration in Central Cuba". African Ethnobotany in the Americas: 217–245. doi:10.1007/978-1-4614-0836-9
In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] ORIGINS OF THE BIBLE

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 938A]

Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him. 7 For the LORD thy God bringeth thee into a good land, a land of brooks of water, of fountains and depths that spring out of valleys and hills; 8 A land of wheat, and barley, and vines, and fig trees, and pomegranates; a land of oil olive, and honey; 9 A land wherein thou shalt eat bread without scarceness, thou shalt not lack any thing in it; a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose hills thou mayest dig brass. 10 When thou hast eaten and art full, then thou shalt bless the LORD thy God for the good land which he hath given thee. 11 Beware that thou forget not the LORD thy God, in not keeping his commandments, and his judgments, and his statutes, which I command thee this day: Deuteronomy 8:6 – 11, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

The ancient Isralites lived under Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) loving care for hundreds of years, and received very good care from him when they obeyed His commandments per Deuteronomy 4:5 – 8, [AV] “Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it. 6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people. 7 For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for? 8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?” ; However, their good care by Him was contingent on their obedience to Him as shown at Deuternonmy 4:9, [AV] “Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy
sons’ sons;”

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[2] ORIGINS OF THE BIBLE

Specifically, the Bible is NOT the product of one committee or strongman. It has over 40 individual writers who wrote under divine inspiration/guidance much as transcribing secretaries today taking transcription and then later typing it out. In other words one real author, God (YHWH), and many scribes each of whom wrote in his own style over a period of approximately 1,600 years. All of what people call or consider inconsistencies are really not such, but most often just a problem of translation and/or understanding, i.e., lack of understanding of what the original writer writing in his own language and culture meant/said in his original writing. What is remarkable, is the writers over such a period of time all wrote in harmony when even most posters on threads on this forum can not even stay on track or subject over a period of a few days and/or weeks at most with the original subject of the thread. This fact of harmony over a period so great as to almost stagger the imagination shows that it had one guiding force or author who divinely inspired its writers as humans of their own volition can not keep on track over short periods of time.

To wit, the Bible is the ONLY book God (YHWH) ever inspired men to write as his scribes. In other words, God is its author and men only put his thoughts given to them by divine inspiration into their own words, the words of men. Not only that, all the other writers of later so called religious guidance books borrowed from it and made changes in accord with their strong man or so called prophet. Take the example of Joseph Smith who borrowed from it to write the Book of Mormon, but failed to give credit or source to the Bible and twisted some borrowed things into bizarre distortions. Other examples are of course the bizarre writings of David Koresh the Prophet of the Branch Dividians of Waco, Texas; and the Quran, and the Book of Wiccim.

Truly, the Bible id differentiated from all other so called 'holy books' by its candor and honesty which are not found in those ones that were NOT divinely inspired by God (YHWH).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] FACTS ON BOOK OF MATTHEW

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 939A]

The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother’s milk. Exodus 23:19, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

However, they were not honest with their Creator, and often did not follow his specific commandments, but brought defective offerings to him as recorded at Malachi 1:11 – 14, [AV] “For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts. 12 But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the LORD is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible. 13 Ye said also, Behold, what a weariness is it! and ye have snuffed at it, saith the LORD of hosts; and ye brought that which was torn, and the lame, and the sick; thus ye brought an offering: should I accept this of your hand? saith the LORD. 14 But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing: for I am a great King, saith the LORD of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen.” This shameful action on their part won Almighty God’S (YHWH’S) disfavor as shown by Malachi 2:1 – 2, [AV] “And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you. 2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.” Therefore, we should seek to win His good pleasure by seeking to obey his commandments.

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[2] FACTS ON BOOK OF MATTHEW:

This book has proved difficult to date due to a belief for a long time that the Book of Matthew was originally written in Hebrew and the wrong claim by some higher critics that Matthew had used the book of Mark for his information. However, both of these claims have been proven wrong.

First, the long standing and formerly believed claim that the Book of Matthew had originally believed had been in written in Aramaic a off shoot version of Hebrew. Recently this claim has been proven to be completely wrong.

Second, with regard to some higher critics claims that Matthew had gotten his information from the Book of Mark. Of course these higher critics were completely wrong. Why? Matthew was an Apostle and was with Jesus (Yeshua) and had his information first hand and would NOT require input from any other source. He was an individual, who being a former tax collector was given to detail and in his book adherence to detail is seen throughout. This was noted specifically in many publications, one of which details it as follows. "As a tax collector, Matthew possessed a skill that makes his writing all the more exciting for Christians. Tax collectors were expected to be able to write in a form of shorthand, which essentially meant that Matthew could record a person's words as they spoke, word for word. This ability means that the words of Matthew are not only inspired by the Holy Spirit, but should represent an actual transcript of some of Christ's sermons. For example, the Sermon on the Mount, as recorded in chapters 5-7, is almost certainly a perfect recording of that great message. [source - Got Questions Ministries. www.gotquestions.org - Gospel of Matthew].

Third, the adherence to detail is for example clearly shown with regard to Matthew's detail regarding the fig tree lesson given by Christ as recorded at Matthew 21: , "Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered. 19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. 20 And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away! 21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

Jesus' (Yeshua's) purpose in this miracle was to teach his Apostles a lesson as noted by the world renown scholar, Theodore Beza, as follows, "Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and i doubt not, ye shall not only do this [which is done] to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
(5) How great the force of faith is.

(i) The Greek word signifies a fixing or wavering of mind, so that we cannot tell which way to take"
[source - "Commentary on Matthew 21". "The 1599 Geneva Study Bible".by Theodore Beza in 1600-1645].

And, another world renown scholar, John Wesley, said, "Jesus answering, said, If ye have faith - Whence we may learn, that one great end of our Lord in this miracle was to confirm and increase their faith: another was, to warn them against unfruitfulness." (AV) confirmed this as does a look at Matthew 17:20, "And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you." (AV), also dealing with Jesus' (Yeshua's) efforts to build faith in his Apostles.

And, another world renown scholar, John Gill, said, "Ver. 21. Jesus answered and said unto them,.... His disciples wondering at his power, in causing the fig tree to wither so suddenly:

verily I say unto you, if ye have faith; that is, in God, in his power, which reaches to all things: the object of faith is expressed in Mark, and by way of exhortation, "have faith in God", that he will enable you to perform whatsoever ye shall desire; which must be understood, not of spiritual faith in the promises of God, and person of Christ, but of, the faith of miracles, or faith in the power of God to perform things that are above the strength of nature:

and doubt not; either of the power, or will of God to do for you, and by you, the thing desired; for this kind of faith would not admit of the least degree of doubting: there must be no hesitation in the mind, no reasoning upon the thing, how it can be performed; the mind must not be divided between the power and will of God, and the difficulties and discouragements which attend the case, but must believe in hope against hope, with a full persuasion of accomplishment: for want of this faith, without doubting, the disciples could not cure the child that was lunatic.

Ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree; cause one to be dried up, and wither away by a word, as Christ had done to this, which, comparatively speaking, was but a lesser sort of miracle;

but also, if ye shall say to this mountain; the Mount of Olives, where Christ and his disciples now were, and were passing over, or, at least, were very near it; or any other mountain wherever they might be, to which they should, upon any occasion, think fit to say,

be thou removed, and cast into the sea; which was many miles off from Mount Olivet, and must he a very surprising performance for a mountain to be rooted up, so large as that was, and be carried several miles from its former situation, and be thrown into the sea; and yet, as difficult and amazing as this may seem,

it shall be done: that is, provided the person doubts not; or, as it is said in Mark, "shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things, which he saith, shall come to pass, he shall have whatsoever he saith": for this must not be confined to the particular instances of drying up a fig tree, or removing a mountain, but the doing of any sort of miracle, how great soever. Nor is it our Lord's meaning that they should do these particular things; nor is it certain that they ever did: but his sense is, that, had they faith, they should be able not only to do such lesser miracles, as, comparatively speaking, the withering of the fig tree was, but they should be able to perform things much more difficult and surprising, whenever the good of the souls of men, the propagation of the Gospel, and the glory of God required them." (AV)[source - John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible].

Whereas, Mark was NOT a detail oriented person and had not been a companion of Jesus (Yeshua), and wrote his Book of Mark strictly on the basis of what he had heard from others; he being a lot younger man than Matthew and the other Apostles. His account of the same event is lacking in detail with in comparison to the detailed first person account of the Apostle Matthew. To see this, let's look at his account of the same fig tree miracle and see how it lacks detail and even really does not cover the purpose of the event.

Mark 11:12-14, "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:
13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. 14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it." (AV), and Mark 11:20-22, "And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. 21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away. 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God." (AV).

As can clearly be seen, Mark's account lacks the clear, concise, clarity of Matthew's account and never could be the basis or source for it regardless of what some higher critics wrongly claim. These same wrong higher critics often claim that the Book of Matthew was written after the Book of Mark so as to back up their self-serving false claim that Matthew copied from Mark which has been proven wrong by Matthew's detail that is lacking in Mark's writings on the subject. Also, Matthew, as previously mentioned was with Jesus (Yeshua) while he was preaching on earth; whereas, Mark was not.

Now the reason these higher critics can get away with making such outlandish claims is clearly shown in "THE BOOK OF MATTHEW," written by an Anonymous writer, per the CCN source which says, "Like all the Gospels, Matthew is not easy to date: suggestions have ranged from A.D. 40 to 140. The two expressions "unto this day" (Matt. 27:8) and "until this day" (Matt. 28:15) indicate that a substantial period of time has passed since the events described in the book, but they also point to a date prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. The Olivet Discourse (Matt. 24 and 25) also anticipates this event. The strong Jewish flavor of this gospel is another argument for a date prior to A.D. 70."

So they are taking liberty from reality due to the fact that it is difficult to accurately ascertain the exact date that the Gospel of Matthew or any other of the three Gospels were written. However, the range of dates given is preposterous as Matthew died about 90 AD.

Also, the question of when the book of Matthew was written is a question much debated, one writer expresses it as a debate that centers on Matthew 24:2: and which says, "And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." (AV). This verse speaks of the destruction of Jerusalem as a future event, and this destruction took place in 70 AD; therefore any higher critic citing a later date than 70 AD is clearly citing an impossibility. Yet many higher critics do just that; therefore, any dating claims by higher critics are nothing but self-serving guesses and NOT even good ones.

Hal Lindsey, in a WorldNetDaily Exclusive ((c) 2003 WorldNetDaily.com ) made it clear that what he called "new thinkers" were wrong with respect to their false claims that Matthew was not the author, that he was not an eyewitness, and that Jesus (Yeshua) did not do many of the claimed things. Hal went on to note that the favorite tactic of these self proclaimed "new Thinkers" was to assign later dates than was reasonable to seemingly back up their false claims. And he quotes a parody on the Book of Matthew by a leading first century Rabbi as follows, "In an essay written for the book, "Passover and Easter: Origin and History to Modern Times," Israel J. Yuval of Jerusalem's Hebrew University, reports the Star, writes about a leading rabbinical scholar of the first century named Gamaliel, who is mentioned in Acts 5:34 and 22:3. Yuval declares that Gamaliel is "considered to have authored a sophisticated parody of the Gospel according to Matthew."

Because the date of Gamaliel's death is known, it places the publication of the Book of Matthew some time before AD 73. The fact that it was a parody demands that the Book of Matthew had extensive circulation and was well known. Otherwise, no one would have gotten the joke. " And Hal Lindsey went on to note the facts about Jesus (Yeshua) and the crucifixion were so well known only 27 years after the event as shown by Acts 26:26, "For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner." (AV), the Book of Matthew would have had to be written before 57 AD.

Hal Lindsey also noted that Dr. Simon Greenleaf, one of the greatest legal minds of American history and head of the Harvard Law School for some 30 years wrote a definitive work, "The Testimony of The Four Evangelists," and concluded that the evidence in support of the four Gospels is better than the evidence supporting any other history of antiquity. He also noted that the higher critics are best described by 2 Timothy 3:1-7, " This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." (AV).

The general best current thinking by none higher critic Bible scholars is that the Book of Matthew was written around 41 AD since if it had been written much later, Matthew could not have detailed the events therein in such clarity and with such exactness. This is based on very recent research with respect how humans remember detail. The writer of this article, Iris the Preacher, is one of the sincere none higher critics that is in harmony with the best available credible evidence pointing to a date around 41 AD.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] MANY DO NOT ACCEPT REALITY, BUT USE DEFENSE MECHANISMS TO AVOID IT

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 940A]

And the word of Samuel came to all Israel. Now Israel went out against the Philistines to battle, and pitched beside Ebenezer: and the Philistines pitched in Aphek. 2 And the Philistines put themselves in array against Israel: and when they joined battle, Israel was smitten before the Philistines: and they slew of the army in the field about four thousand men. 3 And when the people were come into the camp, the elders of Israel said, Wherefore hath the LORD smitten us to day before the Philistines? Let us fetch the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of Shiloh unto us, that, when it cometh among us, it may save us out of the hand of our enemies. 4 So the people sent to Shiloh, that they might bring from thence the ark of the covenant of the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth between the cherubims: and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were there with the ark of the covenant of God. 1 Samuel 4:1 – 4, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Now why did this happen, this terrible setback? 1 Samuel 4:10- 11, [AV] “And the Philistines fought, and Israel was smitten, and they fled every man into his tent: and there was a very great slaughter; for there fell of Israel thirty thousand footmen. 11 And the ark of God was taken; and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were slain.’ Provides a clue. This resulted from their leaning on their own understanding instead of seeking the assistance and direction of Almighty God (YHWH) as shown by Proverbs 14:12, [AV] “There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.”
They should have shown the right heart attitude and looked to Almighty God (YHWH) for guidance, and relied on Him instead of their own imperfect reasoning per Proberbs 3:5 – 6, [AV] “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.” In other words they acted presumptuously by going out in battle with the ark of the covenant instead of seeking His guidance, and this act cost them a major set back.

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[2] MANY DO NOT ACCEPT REALITY, BUT USE DEFENSE MECHANISMS TO AVOID IT

"A smart researcher rejects nonsense and false claims, and realizes these are the illegitimate defense mechanism of some one in deep denial of reality, the truth" Unfortunately, a biased opinion is not a fact and while it's fine to have your own opinion - it's not OK to attempt to create your own facts :-) which is another defense mechanism of some one in deep denial of reality, the truth.
Hi abuzacharias

FIRST, Many fail to recognize, for example, that the Quran refers to a mythical god, old middle eastern celestial Moon god, "Allah," that only exist in the deceived imaginations of men, but has no real existence; whereas, the genuine (true) the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, of the Bible has real existence.

SECOND, All polytheist are of course wrong as there is only one genuine (true) true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, but NOT all monotheist are correct since some believe in the mythical old middle eastern celestial Moon god, "Allah," so get real. Remember what Jesus (Yeshua) said at John 14:6, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON CANDOR PROVES BIBLE THE WORD OF GOD (YHWH)

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 941A]

This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, 18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: 19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. Ephesians 4:17 – 19 [authorized King James Bible; AV]

All genuine followers of the Son of God, Jesus (Yeshua) need to evaluate their spirituality, and not be insensitive as are most of mankind with respect their needs in this dimension of their life. King David when he was in distress wrote at Psalmss 41:1 – 2, [AV] “Blessed is he that considereth the poor: the LORD will deliver him in time of trouble. 2 The LORD will preserve him, and keep him alive; and he shall be blessed upon the earth: and thou wilt not deliver him unto the will of his enemies.” Clearly testifying to our need to maintain our faith in Almighty God (YHWH).

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[2] DISCOURSE ON CANDOR PROVES BIBLE THE WORD OF GOD (YHWH):

FIRST, The Bible unlike other so called 'holy books' was inspired by God (YHWH) who is NOT a liar or obfuscator so his inspired scribes unlike human writers with their own agenda wrote exactly what happened including their own short comings. This candor is actually one of the things that clearly shows the Bible to be truly the only book ever inspired by God (YHWH). The prophets even wrote their own shortcomings/weaknesses down under divine inspiration; this is quite unlike all other ancient writers who always built up themselves and never recorded their own shortcomings.

SECOND, Genesis 19:30-38 is a special case under a very unusual circumstance which when taken out of context could leave the wrong impression so let's look at Genesis 19:19-38 and learn the facts, " behold now, thy servant hath found favor in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy lovingkindness, which thou hast showed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest evil overtake me, and I die: 20 behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one. Oh let me escape thither (is it not a little one?), and my soul shall live. 21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow the city of which thou hast spoken. 22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar. 23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot came unto Zoar. 24 Then Jehovah rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Jehovah out of heaven; 25 and he overthrew those cities, and all the Plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. 26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. 27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he had stood before Jehovah: 28 and he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the Plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the land went up as the smoke of a furnace. 29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the Plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in which Lot dwelt. 30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. 31 And the first-born said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: 32 come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the first-born went in, and lay with her father; and he knew not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the first-born said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he knew not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. 37 And the first-born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day. 38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Ben-ammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day. (American Standard Version; ASV). Clearly we see here a special circumstance and that Lot was NOT aware of what he was doing as he had been made drunk; but the fact that this was ever recorded once more speaks to the candor and truthfulness of the Bible in that the prophets even recorded their own short comings and wrong doings. This candor is NOT seen in other so called 'holy books' that were not inspired by God (YHWH).

THIRD, One individual said, "In Genesis 38:15-18, Judah, a son of Jacob, is supposed to have engaged in sexual relations with his daughter-in-law."
This is another special circumstance showing the short coming of a prophet honestly recorded with honesty and candor in the Bible; whereas, in so called 'holy books' that were not divinely inspired something of this nature would never have been recorded. Let's look at the circumstances under which this wrong doing took place as circumstances make a major difference in most cases, at Genesis 38:1-30, "And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah. 2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite whose name was Shua. And he took her, and went in unto her. 3 And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er. 4 And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 5 And she yet again bare a son, and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him. 6 And Judah took a wife for Er his first-born, and her name was Tamar. 7 And Er, Judah's first-born, was wicked in the sight of Jehovah. And Jehovah slew him. 8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and perform the duty of a husband's brother unto her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 9 And Onan knew that the seed would not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest he should give seed to his brother. 10 And the thing which he did was evil in the sight of Jehovah: and he slew him also. 11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter-in-law, Remain a widow in thy father's house, till Shelah my son be grown up; for he said, Lest he also die, like his brethren. And Tamar went and dwelt in her father's house. 12 And in process of time Shua's daughter, the wife of Judah, died; and Judah was comforted, and went up unto his sheep-shearers to Timnah, he and his friend Hirah the Adullamite. 13 And it was told Tamar, saying, Behold, thy father-in-law goeth up to Timnah to shear his sheep. 14 And she put off from her the garments of her widowhood, and covered herself with her veil, and wrapped herself, and sat in the gate of Enaim, which is by the way to Timnah; for she saw that Shelah was grown up, and she was not given unto him to wife. 15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be a harlot; for she had covered her face. 16 And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Come, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee: for he knew not that she was his daughter-in-law. And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? 17 And he said, I will send thee a kid of the goats from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? 18 And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet and thy cord, and thy staff that is in thy hand. And he gave them to her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. 19 And she arose, and went away, and put off her veil from her, and put on the garments of her widowhood. 20 And Judah sent the kid of the goats by the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive the pledge from the woman's hand: but he found her not. 21 Then he asked the men of her place, saying, Where is the prostitute, that was at Enaim by the wayside? And they said, There hath been no prostitute here. 22 And he returned to Judah, and said, I have not found her; and also the men of the place said, There hath been no prostitute here. 23 And Judah said, Let her take it to her, lest we be put to shame: behold, I sent this kid, and thou hast not found her. 24 And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter-in-law hath played the harlot; and moreover, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. 25 When she was brought forth, she sent to her father-in-law, saying, By the man, whose these are, am I with child: and she said, Discern, I pray thee, whose are these, the signet, and the cords, and the staff. 26 And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She is more righteous than I; forasmuch as I gave her not to Shelah my son. And he knew her again no more. 7 And it came to pass in the time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb. 28 And it came to pass, when she travailed, that one put out a hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first. 29 And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that, behold, his brother came out: and she said, Wherefore hast thou made a breach for thyself? Therefore his name was called Perez. 30 And afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called Zerah." (ASV). Once again we see special circumstances where one of the prophet's son would NOT perform his duty under the ancient Jewish law. This is made plain when Judah said, "And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She is more righteous than I; forasmuch as I gave her not to Shelah my son. And he knew her again no more." So once more we see the honesty and candor of the Bible that clearly show it to be the inspired word of God (YHWH).
FOURTH, One individual clearly showed that this honesty and candor is NOT found in other so called 'holy books' as follows, "Neither the sons of Jacob, whom the Qur'an mentions as "grandchildren" whose ways should be followed, nor his wives could have engaged such a behavior. Our Prophet explicitly declared that there is not a single case of fornication in his lineage back to Adam, [1] and that all Prophets are brothers descended from the same father. [2] Our Prophet is a descendant of Abraham, as were Judah and the other Israelite Prophets. Thus, how could any of them be the result of an improper sexual alliance?"
Speaks for itself as we all well know there has only been one perfect man who never sinned who walked this earth.
FIFTH, This honesty and candor that differentiates the Bible from other so called 'holy books' and 'knockoffs' is once more shown with respect to King David who under divine inspiration actually wrote part of the Bible, let's look at this candor at 2 Samuel 11:1-27, "And it came to pass, at the return of the year, at the time when kings go out [to battle], that David sent Joab, and his servants with him, and all Israel; and they destroyed the children of Ammon, and besieged Rabbah. But David tarried at Jerusalem. 2 And it came to pass at eventide, that David arose from off his bed, and walked upon the roof of the king's house: and from the roof he saw a woman bathing; and the woman was very beautiful to look upon. 3 And David send and inquired after the woman. And one said, Is not this Bath-sheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite? 4 And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her (for she was purified from her uncleanness); and she returned unto her house. 5 And the woman conceived; and she sent and told David, and said, I am with child. 6 And David sent to Joab, [saying], Send me Uriah the Hittite. And Joab sent Uriah to David. 7 And when Uriah was come unto him, David asked of him how Joab did, and how the people fared, and how the war prospered. 8 And David said to Uriah, Go down to thy house, and wash thy feet. And Uriah departed out of the king's house, and there followed him a mess [of food] from the king. 9 But Uriah slept at the door of the king's house with all the servants of his lord, and went not down to his house. 10 And when they had told David, saying, Uriah went not down unto his house, David said unto Uriah, Art thou not come from a journey? wherefore didst thou not go down unto thy house? 11 And Uriah said unto David, The ark, and Israel, and Judah, abide in booths; and my lord Joab, and the servants of my lord, are encamped in the open field; shall I then go into my house, to eat and to drink, and to lie with my wife? as thou livest, and as thy soul liveth, I will not do this thing. 12 And David said to Uriah, Tarry here to-day also, and to-morrow I will let thee depart. So Uriah abode in Jerusalem that day, and the morrow. 13 And when David had called him, he did eat and drink before him; and he made him drunk: and at even he went out to lie on his bed with the servants of his lord, but went not down to his house. 14 And it came to pass in the morning, that David wrote a letter to Joab, and sent it by the hand of Uriah. 15 And he wrote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die. 16 And it came to pass, when Joab kept watch upon the city, that he assigned Uriah unto the place where he knew that valiant men were. 17 And the men of the city went out, and fought with Joab: and there fell some of the people, even of the servants of David; and Uriah the Hittite died also. 18 Then Joab sent and told David all the things concerning the war; 19 and he charged the messenger, saying, When thou hast made an end of telling all the things concerning the war unto the king, 20 it shall be that, if the king's wrath arise, and he say unto thee, Wherefore went ye so nigh unto the city to fight? knew ye not that they would shoot from the wall? 21 who smote Abimelech the son of Jerubbesheth? did not a woman cast an upper millstone upon him from the wall, so that he died at Thebez? why went ye so nigh the wall? then shalt thou say, Thy servant Uriah the Hittite is dead also. 22 So the messenger went, and came and showed David all that Joab had sent him for. 23 And the messenger said unto David, The men prevailed against us, and came out unto us into the field, and we were upon them even unto the entrance of the gate. 24 And the shooters shot at thy servants from off the wall; and some of the king's servants are dead, and thy servant Uriah the Hittite is dead also. 25 Then David said unto the messenger, Thus shalt thou say unto Joab, Let not this thing displease thee, for the sword devoureth one as well as another; make thy battle more strong against the city, and overthrow it: and encourage thou him. 26 And when the wife of Uriah heard that Uriah her husband was dead, she made lamentation for her husband. 27 And when the mourning was past, David sent and took her home to his house, and she became his wife, and bare him a son. But the thing that David had done displeased Jehovah" (ASV). So we can plainly see the Bible is clearly differentiated from other so called 'holy books' in that it is the only one with honesty and candor in reporting the very BAD things done by prophets; none other do as their authors are men who write the thoughts of men and never write about their wrongs. One individual actually said the following over this bad happening, "David is a Prophet who was given a Divine Scripture (the Psalms) and who is praised in the Qur'an for his sincere and profound devotion to God:

Be patient with them, and remember Our servant David, the man of strength and abilities, who always turned to God in sincere devotion and submission. We made the mountains declare, in unison with him, Our praises, at eventide and at the break of day, and the birds gathered (in assemblies): all with him did turn to Him (in profound devotion). We strengthened his kingdom and gave him wisdom and sound judgment (in speech and decision). (38:17-20)

Though a king, he lived a simple life by his own labor. He had such a great awareness of God that he cried a great deal and fasted every other day. Our Prophet recommended this type of fast to some Companions who asked about the most rewarding type of supererogatory fasting. [3] Could such a noble Prophet ever commit adultery with a married woman, plot her husband's death, and then marry her?"
SIXTH, One individual said the following about the king/prophet Solomon, and the fact that it was actually written down in the Bible under divine inspiration by one God (YHWH) used as a scribe to put his thoughts into the words of men. This clearly shows once more the Bible is the only book ever inspired by Almighty God (YHWH) as no other so called 'holy book' ever showed such honesty and candor. One individual actually said, "In I Kings 11:1-8, despite God's command: "You must not intermarry with them, because they will surely turn your hearts after their gods," Prophet Solomon is accused of marrying many foreign women belonging to pagan nations and following their gods and goddesses (idols). Would a Prophet be able to commit such a grievous sin as following the idols and deities of other tribes?"
Here a king/prophet is actually shown violating God's (YHWH's) decree given at Deuteronomy 17:15-17, "thou shalt surely set him king over thee, whom Jehovah thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee; thou mayest not put a foreigner over thee, who is not thy brother. 16 Only he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he may multiply horses; forasmuch as Jehovah hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. 17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold." (ASV).

MANY other examples of the outstanding honesty and candor could be sited, but this sampling should be more than sufficient to show that unlike other so called 'holy books' it is the only one ever divinely inspired by God (YHWH) as it is the only one with such honesty and candor. The following clearly amplify this truth, There are many different writings and books that various groups have considered/believed to be holy books, but why so. Many have been considered holy books based on human tradition such as the Egyptian Book of the Dead, the Rig Veda, etc., and others for which divine inspiration are claimed, but which are actually just knockoffs from the Bible such as the writings of David Korash, the Book of Morman, the Quran (Koran), etc. However, there is only one book, actually a book of books, the Bible which actually was written by man acting as scribes who were given the thoughts of God (YHWH) and put them into the words of men.

Specifically, the Bible is NOT the product of one committee or strongman. It has over 40 individual writers who wrote under divine inspiration/guidance much as transcribing secretaries today taking transcription and then later typing it out. In other words one real author, God (YHWH), and many scribes each of whom wrote in his own style over a period of approximately 1,600 years. All of what people call or consider inconsistencies are really not such, but most often just a problem of translation and/or understanding, i.e., lack of understanding of what the original writer writing in his own language and culture meant/said in his original writing. What is remarkable, is the writers over such a period of time all wrote in harmony when even most posters on threads on this forum can not even stay on track or subject over a period of a few days and/or weeks at most with the original subject of the thread. This fact of harmony over a period so great as to almost stagger the imagination shows that it had one guiding force or author who divinely inspired its writers as humans of their own volition can not keep on track over short periods of time.

Truly, the Bible id differentiated from all other so called 'holy books' by its candor and honesty which are not found in those ones that were NOT divinely inspired by God (YHWH).

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE RARE FRUITS AND VEGETABLES - Sha Ren - Amomum villosum

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 942A]

And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: Acts 17:26 – 27 [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, Almighty God (YHWH) is the Creator of all there is. Mankind came into existence at his command, and all should bring their lives in harmony with his purpose as clearly shown by 1 John 4:7 - 13, [AV] “Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the Sha Ren - Amomum villosum, The herb contains volatile oil, mainly borneol, bornyl acetate, dextro camphor, linalool and nerolidol etc..

Effects on digestive system
0.25~0.75% water decoction of yang chun sha had exciting effect on isolated intestinal canal. Its 1~1.25% water docction and saturated water solution of volatile oil showed inhibitory effect.
sha ren could promote the function of stomach, and the secretions of gastric juice.
Effects on nervous system
1:25000 camphor could completely relieve the spasm of isolated rabbit intestinal canal caused by carbacholine (1:6000000). Camphor had exciting effect on central nervous system.
Effects on respiratory system
Saponin could induce the secretions of bronchial mucosa. Oral administration had expetorant effect. Linalool had anti-tussive and expectorant effects. Camphor could be applied in circulatory and respiratory failure.
Anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and antisepsis effect
Camphor had mild antisepsis effect. Linalool had quite strong bacteria killing effect, and had inhibitory effect on streptococcus B.

Gastritis and ulcer
sha ren and chen xiang of equal amount were encapsulated, 0.3g each capsule, 4 capsules, bid to tid. 10 days as a course of treatment. Among 82 treated cases of acute gastritis 52 were cured, 24 improved, and 6 ineffective. In 295 cases of chronic superficial gastritis, 176 were cured, 93 improved, and 26 ineffective. In 204 cases of gastric ulcer, 133 were cured, 55 improved and 16 ineffective.
Mastitis
sha ren 10~20g was grounded into fine powder. Mix the powder with some cooked sticky rice and make the mixture into pills of the size of peanut seed, which was used to stuff the nose, one side each time,change the side every 12 days. 50 cases were treated, and 40 effective. The average treating time was 6 days.
Except those noted, all references come from Weng Weiliang, et al., Clinical Chinese materia medica, Henan Science & Technology Press, 1998 ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM http://duiyaoonline.com/herbs/sharen.htm ON 7/25/2018]

Picture of fruit can be viewed at http://duiyaoonline.com/herbs/sharen.htm

In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] LEAN ON ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH) FOR GUIDANCE

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 943A]

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matthew 28:19 – 20, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

This scripture brings out the need to let all know about our Savior, Jesus (Yeshua) and His Father, Almighty God (YHWH), and this requirement is testified to at Matthew 24:14, [AV] “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” We should NOT hide our ‘light’ but let it shine forth to others per Luke 11:33, [AV] “No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.” We must let others know about our Creator and His Son, and their purpose for our earth to once more become a paradise. As noted at Romans 12:2, [AV] “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”

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[2] LEAN ON ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH) FOR GUIDANCE

And the word of Samuel came to all Israel. Now Israel went out against the Philistines to battle, and pitched beside Ebenezer: and the Philistines pitched in Aphek. 2 And the Philistines put themselves in array against Israel: and when they joined battle, Israel was smitten before the Philistines: and they slew of the army in the field about four thousand men. 3 And when the people were come into the camp, the elders of Israel said, Wherefore hath the LORD smitten us to day before the Philistines? Let us fetch the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of Shiloh unto us, that, when it cometh among us, it may save us out of the hand of our enemies. 4 So the people sent to Shiloh, that they might bring from thence the ark of the covenant of the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth between the cherubims: and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were there with the ark of the covenant of God. 1 Samuel 4:1 – 4, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Now why did this happen, this terrible setback? 1 Samuel 4:10- 11, [AV] “And the Philistines fought, and Israel was smitten, and they fled every man into his tent: and there was a very great slaughter; for there fell of Israel thirty thousand footmen. 11 And the ark of God was taken; and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were slain.’ Provides a clue. This resulted from their leaning on their own understanding instead of seeking the assistance and direction of Almighty God (YHWH) as shown by Proverbs 14:12, [AV] “There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.”

They should have shown the right heart attitude and looked to Almighty God (YHWH) for guidance, and relied on Him instead of their own imperfect reasoning per Proberbs 3:5 – 6, [AV] “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.” In other words they acted presumptuously by going out in battle with the ark of the covenant instead of seeking His guidance, and this act cost them a major set back.

Specifically, the Bible is NOT the product of one committee or strongman. It has over 40 individual writers who wrote under divine inspiration/guidance much as transcribing secretaries today taking transcription and then later typing it out. In other words one real author, God (YHWH), and many scribes each of whom wrote in his own style over a period of approximately 1,600 years. All of what people call or consider inconsistencies are really not such, but most often just a problem of translation and/or understanding, i.e., lack of understanding of what the original writer writing in his own language and culture meant/said in his original writing. What is remarkable, is the writers over such a period of time all wrote in harmony when even most posters on threads on this forum can not even stay on track or subject over a period of a few days and/or weeks at most with the original subject of the thread. This fact of harmony over a period so great as to almost stagger the imagination shows that it had one guiding force or author who divinely inspired its writers as humans of their own volition can not keep on track over short periods of time.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON APPARENT BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS AND DIVINE INSPIRATION

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 944A]

For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it. 31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart. Jeremiah 7:30 – 31, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

As Ephesians 5:10 – 13, [AV] puts it, “Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. 12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. 13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON APPARENT BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS AND DIVINE INSPIRATION:

INTRODUCTION:

Some misguided ones who lack true Bible knowledge often contend that the Bible contradicts itself and/or promotes wrong doing, killing, or some other error. But in reality this is not the case. The Bible is NOT the product of one committee or strongman. It has over 40 individual writers who wrote under divine inspiration/guidance much as transcribing secretaries today taking transcription and then later typing it out. In other words one real author, God (YHWH), and many scribes each of whom wrote in his own style over a period of approximately 1,600 years. All of what people call or consider inconsistencies are really not such, but most often just a problem of translation and/or understanding, i.e., lack of understanding of what the original writer writing in his own language and culture meant/said in his original writing. What is remarkable, is the writers over such a period of time all wrote in harmony when even most posters on threads on this forum can not even stay on track or subject over a period of a few days and/or weeks at most with the original subject of the thread. This fact of harmony over a period so great as to almost stagger the imagination shows that it had one guiding force or author who divinely inspired its writers as humans of their own volition can not keep on track over short periods of time.

EXPLANATION OF WARS OF JUDGMENT:

There are many passages that require real study since on the surface they appear to be contradictory, but when carefully examined this has been found to NOT be the case. One example of this they point to is aL Almighty God's (YHWH's) Commandment at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), and the many wars Israel engaged in at God's (YHWH's)direction in which they killed the enemy, a seeming contradiction. But in reality it is NOT a contradiction since a loving God (YHWH) needed to execute judgment against the evil ones to protect his then chosen people. This is shown at Deuteronomy 20:16-18, "`Only, of the cities of these peoples which Jehovah thy God is giving to thee `for' an inheritance, thou dost not keep alive any breathing; 17 for thou dost certainly devote the Hittite, and the Amorite, the Canaanite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite, as Jehovah thy God hath commanded thee, 18 so that they teach you not to do according to all their abominations which they have done to their gods, and ye have sinned against Jehovah your God." (Young's Literal Translation; YT); and at Deuteronomy 7:16, "`And thou hast consumed all the peoples whom Jehovah thy God is giving to thee; thine eye hath no pity on them, and thou dost not serve their gods, for a snare it `is' to thee." (YLT).

The fact is that God (YHWH) himself actually used his forces to fight for Israel in these wars of execution of judgment as testified to at Joshua 10:14, "And there was no day like that before it or after it, that Jehovah hearkened unto the voice of a man: for Jehovah fought for Israel." (American Standard Version; ASV); and at Joshua 10:42, "And all these kings and their land did Joshua take at one time, because Jehovah, the God of Israel, fought for Israel." (ASV). In fact, the dread of the true God (YHWH) came to be on all of the pagans as shown at 2 Chronicles 20:29, "And the fear of God was on all the kingdoms of the countries, when they heard that Jehovah fought against the enemies of Israel." (ASV). However, early true Christians did NOT participate in the wars of men, i.e., the pagan Roman Empire as shown in a book by Professor Jesse E. Wrench, "The Christians refused to show their loyalty by burning incense to the emperor. Being men of peace, they would not serve in the Roman armies." [source - "The March of Civilization, Ancient and Medieval World," by Jesse E. Wrench, Professor of History at the University of Missouri, 1931, page 205] showing their respect for God's (YHWH's) law in Exodus. Another writer, Eugene A. Colligan, stated in his book, "They preferred the Kingdom of God to any kingdom that they might serve on earth....Since they believed in peace, they would not serve in Rome's imperial armies." [source - "From the Old World to the New," Eugene A. Colligan, Associate Superintendent of Schools, City of New York, and Maxwell F. Littwin, Principal, New York City Public Schools, pages 88-89].

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] GRIESBACH HAD IT RIGHT!

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 945A]

John 8:42 Jesus (Yeshua) said to them, " Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

Jesus (Yeshua) said he comes from God. The flesh cannot be speaking for the flesh was created. So Jesus (Yeshua)'s spiritual being came from God. Jesus (Yeshua) did not send himself, he did not come on his own, but before he was on earth, God sent him. Jesus (Yeshua) was sent by God into the world, so Jesus (Yeshua) is before the world with God. He is referred to a Proverbs. 8:22-31, “The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. 24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

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[2] GRIESBACH HAD IT RIGHT!

looks to me like the Textual problem of the NT had been solved by J. J. Griesbach -- who was one of the great pioneers of biblical criticism -- already by the end of the 18th century! And so, everything that happened in biblical studies ever since was simply footnotes...

And the reason why it was so easy for Griesbach to solve this main textual problem was... because it was so easy! At least that's how it seems to me...
In modern TC textbooks, Dr. J. J. Griesbach is cited as the originator of the classification of all our NT MSS into the three basic families, Western, Alexandrian, and Byzantine (although we can also note that he relied on the work of his mentors, such as Semler). Griesbach also formulated almost all of the major rules of TC that are still in use even now.

The following account is based on an overview by Dr. A. Klijn (see the ref below), who is, himself, one of the big Textual Critics today.

According to Klijn, Griesbach started his analysis by studying the works of Origen, an early Alexandrian Church Father, and the biblical quotations as found in these writings. He observed that Origen had used two different texts of Mark; one of them close to the Alexandrian type, and the other one close to the text of Codex Bezae -- that famous very ancient NT manuscript of "Western" type. Of course, Western text was already very well known in Europe prior to Griesbach, because this was the text as represented by numerous versions of the gospels that still survive in the Old Latin.

Furthermore, Griesbach observed that these Western gospel texts, as found in Europe, had many similarities to the Syriac Penutsta -- a very important observation. So these unusual old texts of "Western type" could be found both in the West and in the East!

Griesbach could see clearly that both Western and the Alexandrian texts deviate widely from the Majority Text (which is represented for us now by the KJV). The Majority Text was the text that was most popular since the Middle Ages; thus it is found in the majority of old biblical MSS.

One of Griesbach's most noteworthy observations was that Western text represented a pre-recension text. In other words, according to him, these Western texts were current before the NT had been published as a whole. In Griesbach's view, when the canon was finally closed and settled upon, that older text came to be rejected by Church authorities.

And so, Griesbach was somewhat hesitant to describe Western text as a "recension". The only true recensions, according to him, were the Alexandrian and the Byzantine, because there's a lot more consistency within these two textual families. Thus, Western text was a pre-recension text.

So, as we can see, it was the Patristic evidence that led Griesbach to all these revolutionary discoveries. It was the quotes from the old Church Fathers that, according to him, still preserve for us the earliest pre-recension gospel text.
So this is how Klijn summarises these matters,

"Griesbach noticed that Marcion, Irenaeus and even Clement of Alexandria, who wrote before the recensions used a Western text." [SOURCE -(A. Klijn, A SURVEY OF THE RESEARCHES INTO THE WESTERN TEXT OF THE GOSPELS AND ACTS: Part 1, Utrecht, 1948, p. 7)]

Also, Lachmann, another great pioneer of TC, continued the work of both Griesbach and Hug. Writing in 1831, he stated that, based on the extant NT manuscripts, it was not possible to construct a text which would go any farther back than the fourth century.

So this was an extremely honest observation on the part of Lachmann. Indeed, to all intents and purposes, our canonical Greek texts -- whether Alexandrian or Byzantine -- are really nothing other than the Catholic texts as commonly accepted in the fourth century. (The former was popular in Egypt, but then abandoned; the latter was popular in Constantinople, and became the standard text in the early middle ages.)

So Griesbach was right; the earliest text was Western. (I, myself, prefer to describe it as the Peripheral text -- after all, the name "Western text" is just such an obvious misnomer, in light of the fact that it's the eastern MSS that are its key representatives. See this article where I explain this matter some more.) And he was working at the time when the ancient Old Syriac Aramaic gospels -- our main Western/Peripheral texts today -- were still unknown to scholarship! Yet, still and all, he put this whole puzzle together quite easily, using the Syriac Penutsta as his reference.

Sure, he was a very talented biblical scholar. But, still, how could TC wander in the wilderness so long after him? Are our modern TC scholars really so incompetent?

Maybe so... But, in my view, it's mostly their political bias that's to blame. They are simply not brave enough to challenge today's academic-ecclesiastical consensus -- something that Griesbach obviously wasn't afraid to do even back in the eighteenth century! [SOURCE - Yuri].

DR. GRIESBACH TRANSLATION FROM KOINE GREEK TO ENGLISH THE GREEK ENGLISH PORTION OF THE EMPHATIC DIALOGTT CLEARS UP AN APPARENT BIBLE CONTRADICTION:

With respect the Emphatic Dialogtt, the word-for-word section was done by a very renown Koine Greek expert and Bible scholar, Dr. Griesbach. the standard or 'flowing-language' part, this was done by a newspaper reporter, Bengemin Wilson, who was not a translator, but knew how to take from what Dr. Griesbach had done as a word-for-word translation and put it into flowing English. Reporters would naturally be good at this.

"Now with respect to one scripture to which the poster pointed special attention, John 1:1, I had reached exactly the same conclusion as Dr. Griesbach, but from a very different analysis as follows:

"John 1:1 could in no way support the doctrine of the Trinity, as follows:

John 1:1, "When all things began, the Word already was. The Word dwelt with God, and what God was, the Word was" (New English Translation; NEB)
John 1:1, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (American Standard Version; ASV)

Neither mention in any way more than two beings, yet a trinity of anything requires three similar things.

However, in very careful careful analysis as an independent thinker and using my knowledge of language and translation constructs, I am able to prove it can not even support a Duality. Let's take the poor construct of this verse found in the Authorized King James Bible (AV) which is as follows and break it down into its three sub-constructs.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Sub-construct # 1 "In the beginning was the Word."

Sub-construct # 2 "and the Word was with God"

Sub-construct # 3 "and the Word was God."

It is clear that there is a mutually exclusive condition existing between sub-construct # 2 and # 3 in that sub-construct # 2 clearly says, "the Word was with God" which clearly denotes two distinct beings, one with the other; whereas, sub-construct # 3 clearly says, "and the word was God," now obviously both can NOT be true. No individual can be with another individual and at the same time be that other individual so obviously both can NOT be so. When we look at how the New English Translation; NEB, renders these two sub-constructs we get two sub-constructs that no longer are mutually exclusive thus accurately reflecting the intent or thought of the original writer, see sub-construct #2 "The Word dwelt with God," and sub-construct # 3 "and what God was, the Word was."

Of course the New English Translation; NEB, would clearly be in line with the fact that a Son, Jesus (Yeshua), would be a lot like his Father (YHWH); therefore, he would be both divine like his Father (YHWH) and a god. To use an analogy to make this even clearer, we would expect a son dog to be a lot like father dog; a dog pure and simple; so we would also expect a son of a god to be both divine and a god.

In fact some Bible translations even use a god such as "And the word was a god" The New Testament in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Achbishop Newcome's New Translation: With a Corrected Text. Both this rendering and that of the NEB say the same thing in different words with the NEB making it quite clear that both the Father (YHWH) and the Son, Jesus (Yeshua), are of the same substance which is clearly delineated at Philippians 2:1-11, "there is therefore any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassions, 2 make full my joy, that ye be of the same mind, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind; 3 [doing] nothing through faction or through vainglory, but in lowliness of mind each counting other better than himself; 4 not looking each of you to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others. 5 Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men; 8 and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient [even] unto death, yea, the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore also God highly exalted him, and gave unto him the name which is above every name; 10 that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven and [things] on earth and [things] under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (American Standard Version; ASV). Clearly testifying that the Son is of the same substance as the Father (YHWH), but just not as great as his Father (YHWH) as he himself testified to at John 14:28, "Ye heard how I said to you, I go away, and I come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would have rejoiced, because I go unto the Father: for the Father is greater than I." (ASV). Of course this would have to be the case or Exodus 20:3 , "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." (ASV) would be violated.

So as can be seen the more common rendering of John 1:1 can not be correct as its sub-constructs are mutually exclusive, a physical impossibility." [by Iris the Preacher, 2004].

So this seeming contradiction is NOT that at all, but just a biased and bad translation from the original Koine Greek into English; once more giving another example where an apparent contradiction is actually NOT one at all. It is nothing more than a failure by some translators to correctly render what the original writer stated when writing in his language. However, many translators, not just Dr. Griesbach, have translated this passage in line with the thinking of the original writer, some of them are:

"<2> "the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God" [example of Bible using, Schonfield, 1976]"

"<3> "The Word dwelt with God, and what God was, the word was." [example of Bible using, The New English Bible, NEB, 1961-present standard Bible agreed to by most denominations in the United Kingdom]"

"<4> "And the word was a god" [example of Bible using, The New Testament in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Achbishop Newcome's New Translation: With a Corrected Text.]"

"<5> "and the Word was divine" [example of Bible using, The Bible: An American Translation, by J.M.P. Smith and E.J. Goodspeed. }"

"<8> "the Logos was divine" [example of Bible using, The New Testament: A New Translation, by James Moffat]"

"<9> "r war bei Gott und in allem Gott gleich"[He was with God and in all like God] [example of Bible using, Haenchen (tr. By R. Funk), 1982]"

"<10> "Gott (von Art) war der Logos" [God (of Kind/kind) was the Logos/logos] [example of Bible using, Die Bibel in heutigem Deutsch, 1980]"

My husband favors construct # 5 ; whereas I favor constructs # 3 and # 4 ; however when you reason on any of these seven, they in essence are saying the exact same thing, but in different words. They are all recognizing that Jesus (Yeshua) Christ is divine in their own way and that he is God's (YHWH's) only begotten son. This fact is clearly shown in the Bible at Philippians 2:1-11, "If there is therefore any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassions, 2 make full my joy, that ye be of the same mind, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind; 3 [doing] nothing through faction or through vainglory, but in lowliness of mind each counting other better than himself; 4 not looking each of you to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others. 5 Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men; 8 and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient [even] unto death, yea, the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore also God highly exalted him, and gave unto him the name which is above every name; 10 that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven and [things] on earth and [things] under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" (ASV). Obviously all thinking people should believe the Bible and not accept the opinions of man.

As can easily be seen from these two examples, apparent contradictions in the Bible are NOT that al all, but just lack of understanding.

BIBLE SHOWN RELIABLE BY ACCURATE PROPHECY ABOUT JESUS (YESHUA):

Is there a way to prove inspiration or, at least, intelligently present evidence for its inspiration? The answer is "Yes!" One of the best ways to prove inspiration is by examining prophecy. There are many religious books in the world that have many good things to say. But only the Bible has fulfilled prophecies--with more fulfillments to come. The Bible has never been wrong in the past, and it won't be wrong in the future. It claims inspiration from God, " All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" (2 Timothy 3:16 AV). Since God is the creator of all things " Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" (Isaiah 44:24 AV), then He (YHWH) is also the creator of time. It is under His control. Only God, then, would always be right about what is in the future, our future.

Fulfilled prophecy is strong evidence that God is the author of the Bible because when you look at the mathematical odds of prophecy being fulfilled, you quickly see a design, a purpose, and a guiding hand behind the Bible. If just one prophecy failed, then we would know that God is not the true God, because the creator of all things, which includes time, would not be wrong about predicting the future. " When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him." (Deuteronomy 18:22 AV). And "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me; 10 declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done; saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure;" (Isaiah 46:9-10 American Standard Version of 1901).

One writer and mathmatician, Peter Stoner has figured out the possibilities of the fulfillment of just eight (8) prophecies happening, let alone 100 having been fulfilled, and had this to say:

The following probabilities are taken from Peter Stoner in Science Speaks (Moody Press, 1963) to show that coincidence is ruled out by the science of probability. Stoner says that by using the modern science of probability in reference to eight prophecies, 'we find that the chance that any man might have lived down to the present time and fulfilled all eight prophecies is 1 in 1017." That would be 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. In order to help us comprehend this staggering probability, Stoner illustrates it by supposing that "we take 1017 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep.
"Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man."
Stoner considers 48 prophecies and says, "we find the chance that any one man fulfilled all 48 prophecies to be 1 in 10157.

The estimated number of electrons in the universe is around 1079. It should be quite evident that Jesus did not fulfill the prophecies by accident." [ excerpt from book Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.]

EXAMPLES OF A FEW OF THE PROPHECIES FULFILLED IN JESUS (YESHUA OR YHWH SAVES):

PROPHECY FULFILLED WHEN JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED

[ 1. Betrayed by a friend - Psalms 41:9 - John 13:18-27 - 460 BCE ]]

[ 2. Thirty (30) of silver thrown in Temple - Zechariah 11:13 - Matthew 27:3-5 - 518 BCE ]

[ 3. Betrayed for thirty (30) pieces of silver - Zechariah 11:12 - Matthew 26:14-15 - 518 BCE ]

[ 4. Potters field bought for thirty (30) pieces of silver&Zechariah 11:13 - Matthew 27:6-10 - 518 BCE ]

[ 5. Forsaken by His disciples - Zechariah 13:7 - Mark 14:27-50 - 518 BCE ]

[ 6. Falsely accused by false witnesses - Psalms 35:11-21 - Matthew 26:59-61 - 460 BCE ]

[ 7. Remained silent before accusers - Isaiah 53:7 - Matthew 27:12-14 - 732 BCE ]

[ 8. Was wounded and bruised - Isaiah 53:4-6 - 1 Peter 2:21-25 - 732 BCE ]

[ 9. Spit upon and beaten - Isaiah 50:6 - Matthew 26:67-68 - 732 BCE ]

[ 10. Was mocked - Psalms 22:6- 8 - Matthew 27:27- 31 - 460 BCE ]

[ 11. Fell under the cross (stauros) - Psalms 109:24- 25 - John 19:17, Luke 23:26 - 460 BCE]

[ 12. Had hands and feet pierced - Psalms 22:16 - John 20:24-28 - 460 BCE ]

[ 13. Was crucified with thieves - Isaiah 53:12 - Matthew 27:38 - 732 BCE ]

[ 14. Prayed for His enemies - Isaiah 53:12 - Luke 23:34 - 732 BCE ]

[ 15. His own people rejected him - Isaiah 53:3 - John 19:14-15 - 732 BCE]

[ 16. Was hated without cause - Psalms 69:4 - John 15:25 - 460 BCE ]

[ 17. Friends stood aloof - Psalms 38:11 -Luke 22:54; Luke 23:49 - 460 BCE ]

[ 18. People wag their heads - Psalms 22:7; Psalms 109:25 - Matthew 27:39 - 460 BCE]

[19. He was stared at by people - Psalms 22:17 - Luke 23:35 - 460 BCE]

[ 20. Gamblers divided his clothes - Psalms 22:18 - John 19:23-24 - 460 BCE ]

[ 21. He became very thirsty - Psalms 22:15 - John 19:28 - 460 BCE ]

[ 22. He was given gall & vinegar - Psalms 69:21 - Matthew 27:34 - 460 BCE ]

[ 23. He committed himself to God - Psalms 31:5 - Luke 23:46 - 460 BCE ]

[ 24. His forsaken cry - Psalms 22:1 - Matthew 27:46 - 460 BCE ]

[ 25. His bones not broken - Psalms 34:20 - John 19:32-36 - 460 BCE ]

[ 26. Was buried in tomb of a rich man - Isaiah 53:9 - Matthew 27:56-60 - 732 BCE ]

[ 27. A darkness came over the land - Amos 8:9 - Luke 23:44-45 - 804 BCE ]

[ 28. His heart was broken - Psalms 69:20;Psalms 22:14 - 460 BCE ]

[ 29. His side pierced - Zechariah 12:10 - John 19:34-37 - 648 BCE ]

PROPHECIES FULFILLED CONCERNING HIS BIRTH

[ 1. Born of the seed of women - Genesis 3:15 - Galatians 4:4 - 1513 BCE ]

[ 2. Born to a virgin Hebrew - Isaiah 7:14 - Matthew 1:18-25 - 732 BCE ]

[ 3. Children are killed by Herod - Jeremiah 31:15 - Matthew 2:16-18 - 580 BCE ]

[ 4. Born of the family line of Jesse - Isaiah 11:1 - Luke 3:32 - 732 BCE ]

[ 5. Born into the Tribe of Judah - Genesis 49:10 - Revelations 5:5 - 1513 BCE ]

[ 6. Born in Bethlehem - Micah 5:2 - Matthew 2:1-6 - 717 BCE ]

[ 7. Seed of David - Jeremiah 23:5 - Luke 3:31 - 580 BCE ]

[ 8. Seed of Jacob - Numbers 24:17 - Luke 3:34 - 1473 BCE ]

[ 9. Seed of Isaac - Genesis 21:12 - Luke 3:23-34 - 1513 BCE ]

[ 10. Seed of Abraham - Genesis 22:18 - Matthew 1:1 - 1513 BCE ]

PROPHECIES ON HIS PERSONALITY

[ 1. His zeal for this Father (YHWY) - Psalms 69:9 - John 2:15-17 - 460 BCE ]

[2. His existence before creation - Micah 5:2 - 1 Peter 1:20 - 717 BCE ]

[ 3. He shall be called Lord - Psalms 110:1 - Acts 2:36 - 460 BCE ]

[ 4. Called Immanuel (God with us) - Isaiah 7:14 - Matthew 1:22-23 - 732 BCE ]

[ 5. Anointed by the Spirit (HS) - Isaiah 11:2 - Matthew 3:16-17 - 732 BCE ]

[ 6. He is a Prophet - Deuteronomy 18:18-19 - Acts 3:18-25 - 1473 BCE ]

[ 7. He will be a Priest - Psalms 110:4 - Hebrews 5:5-6 - 460 BCE ]

[ 8. He will be a Judge - Isaiah 33:32 - John 5:22-23 - 732 BCE ]

[ 9. He will be a King - Psalms 2:6 - John 18:33-37 - 460 BCE ]

PROPHECIES CONCERNING HIS PUBLIC MINISTRY

[ 1. Will be preceded by a messenger - Isaiah 40:3 - Matthew 3:1-3 - 732 BCE ]

[ 2. He would perform miracles - Isaiah 35:5-6 - Matthew 9:35 & 11:4 - 732 BCE ]

[ 3. Ministry to begin in Galilee - Isaiah 9:1-2 - Matthew 4:12-17 - 732 BCE ]

[ 4. Would teach with parables - Psalms 78:1-4 - Matthew 13:34-35 - 460 BCE ]
[ 5. He would preach in temple - Malachi 3:1 - Matthew 21:10-12 - 443 BCE ]

[ 6. Enter Jerusalem on a donkey - Zechariah 9:9 - Matthew 21:1-7 - 518 BCE ]

[ 7. Stone of stumbling to Jews - Isaiah 28:16; Psalms 118:22 - 1 Peter 2:6-8 - 732 BCE ]

[ 8. Light to Gentiles - Isaiah 49:6 - Acts 13:46-48 - 732 BCE ]

PROPHECIES CONCERNING HIS RESURRECTION AND ASCENSION

[ 1. Raised from the dead - Psalms 16:8-11 - Acts 2:24-31 - 460 BCE ]

[ 2. Only begotten Son of God (YHWH) - Psalms 2:7 - Acts 13:32-35 - 460 BCE ]

[ 3. Ascended to God (YHWH) - Psalms 68:18 - Ephesians 2:8-10; John 6:26 - 460 BCE ]

[ 4. Seated at the Right Hand of God (YHWH) - Psalms 110.1 - Hebrews 1:3-13 - 460 BCE]

CONCLUSION:

As can easily be seen from the examples given, that when an apparent contradiction is researched and studied in depth, it proves to be NOT a contradiction, but a lack of understanding on the part of those calling it a contradiction. The Caliph Saladin, for example, once claimed the John 1:1 was a contradiction based on his reading of the Latin Vulgate of Jerome, but as we have seen, it was NOT a Bible contradiction. It was simply a failure on the translators part to adequately capture the understanding of what the original writer writing in his own language and culture meant/said in his original writing.

Likewise, we can see from all the prophecies about Jesus (Yeshua) that the Bible truly is inspired and the word of God (YHWH). As brought out by one writer, it would have been mathematically impossible for them to have all been fulfilled without God (YHWH) having given them and maneuvered events to have them fulfilled. Also, it proves the harmony of the Bible throughout, i.e., the New Testament is simply the fulfillment of the Old Testament. [/quote]

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Yes all genuine followers of the Prince of Peace, Jesus (Yeshua) without exception should seek to cultivate these virtues, and this is born out by Titus 2:3 – 8, [AV] “The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. 6 Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded. 7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, 8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.” Remember good habits are necessary to win Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) favor as born out by 1 Corinthians 15:33, “Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.”

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[2] BIBLE SHOWN RELIABLE BY ACCURATE PROPHECY ABOUT JESUS (YESHUA):

Is there a way to prove inspiration or, at least, intelligently present evidence for its inspiration? The answer is "Yes!" One of the best ways to prove inspiration is by examining prophecy. There are many religious books in the world that have many good things to say. But only the Bible has fulfilled prophecies--with more fulfillments to come. The Bible has never been wrong in the past, and it won't be wrong in the future. It claims inspiration from God, " All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" (2 Timothy 3:16 AV). Since God is the creator of all things " Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" (Isaiah 44:24 AV), then He (YHWH) is also the creator of time. It is under His control. Only God, then, would always be right about what is in the future, our future.

Fulfilled prophecy is strong evidence that God is the author of the Bible because when you look at the mathematical odds of prophecy being fulfilled, you quickly see a design, a purpose, and a guiding hand behind the Bible. If just one prophecy failed, then we would know that God is not the true God, because the creator of all things, which includes time, would not be wrong about predicting the future. " When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him." (Deuteronomy 18:22 AV). And "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me; 10 declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done; saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure;" (Isaiah 46:9-10 American Standard Version of 1901).

One writer and mathmatician, Peter Stoner has figured out the possibilities of the fulfillment of just eight (8) prophecies happening, let alone 100 having been fulfilled, and had this to say:

The following probabilities are taken from Peter Stoner in Science Speaks (Moody Press, 1963) to show that coincidence is ruled out by the science of probability. Stoner says that by using the modern science of probability in reference to eight prophecies, 'we find that the chance that any man might have lived down to the present time and fulfilled all eight prophecies is 1 in 1017." That would be 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. In order to help us comprehend this staggering probability, Stoner illustrates it by supposing that "we take 1017 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep.
"Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man."
Stoner considers 48 prophecies and says, "we find the chance that any one man fulfilled all 48 prophecies to be 1 in 10157.

The estimated number of electrons in the universe is around 1079. It should be quite evident that Jesus did not fulfill the prophecies by accident." [ excerpt from book Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.]

EXAMPLES OF A FEW OF THE PROPHECIES FULFILLED IN JESUS (YESHUA OR YHWH SAVES):

PROPHECY FULFILLED WHEN JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED

[ 1. Betrayed by a friend - Psalms 41:9 - John 13:18-27 - 460 BCE ]]

[ 2. Thirty (30) of silver thrown in Temple - Zechariah 11:13 - Matthew 27:3-5 - 518 BCE ]

[ 3. Betrayed for thirty (30) pieces of silver - Zechariah 11:12 - Matthew 26:14-15 - 518 BCE ]

[ 4. Potters field bought for thirty (30) pieces of silver&Zechariah 11:13 - Matthew 27:6-10 - 518 BCE ]

[ 5. Forsaken by His disciples - Zechariah 13:7 - Mark 14:27-50 - 518 BCE ]

[ 6. Falsely accused by false witnesses - Psalms 35:11-21 - Matthew 26:59-61 - 460 BCE ]

[ 7. Remained silent before accusers - Isaiah 53:7 - Matthew 27:12-14 - 732 BCE ]

[ 8. Was wounded and bruised - Isaiah 53:4-6 - 1 Peter 2:21-25 - 732 BCE ]

[ 9. Spit upon and beaten - Isaiah 50:6 - Matthew 26:67-68 - 732 BCE ]

[ 10. Was mocked - Psalms 22:6- 8 - Matthew 27:27- 31 - 460 BCE ]

[ 11. Fell under the cross (stauros) - Psalms 109:24- 25 - John 19:17, Luke 23:26 - 460 BCE]

[ 12. Had hands and feet pierced - Psalms 22:16 - John 20:24-28 - 460 BCE ]

[ 13. Was crucified with thieves - Isaiah 53:12 - Matthew 27:38 - 732 BCE ]

[ 14. Prayed for His enemies - Isaiah 53:12 - Luke 23:34 - 732 BCE ]

[ 15. His own people rejected him - Isaiah 53:3 - John 19:14-15 - 732 BCE]

[ 16. Was hated without cause - Psalms 69:4 - John 15:25 - 460 BCE ]

[ 17. Friends stood aloof - Psalms 38:11 -Luke 22:54; Luke 23:49 - 460 BCE ]

[ 18. People wag their heads - Psalms 22:7; Psalms 109:25 - Matthew 27:39 - 460 BCE]

[19. He was stared at by people - Psalms 22:17 - Luke 23:35 - 460 BCE]

[ 20. Gamblers divided his clothes - Psalms 22:18 - John 19:23-24 - 460 BCE ]

[ 21. He became very thirsty - Psalms 22:15 - John 19:28 - 460 BCE ]

[ 22. He was given gall & vinegar - Psalms 69:21 - Matthew 27:34 - 460 BCE ]

[ 23. He committed himself to God - Psalms 31:5 - Luke 23:46 - 460 BCE ]

[ 24. His forsaken cry - Psalms 22:1 - Matthew 27:46 - 460 BCE ]

[ 25. His bones not broken - Psalms 34:20 - John 19:32-36 - 460 BCE ]

[ 26. Was buried in tomb of a rich man - Isaiah 53:9 - Matthew 27:56-60 - 732 BCE ]

[ 27. A darkness came over the land - Amos 8:9 - Luke 23:44-45 - 804 BCE ]

[ 28. His heart was broken - Psalms 69:20;Psalms 22:14 - 460 BCE ]

[ 29. His side pierced - Zechariah 12:10 - John 19:34-37 - 648 BCE ]

PROPHECIES FULFILLED CONCERNING HIS BIRTH

[ 1. Born of the seed of women - Genesis 3:15 - Galatians 4:4 - 1513 BCE ]

[ 2. Born to a virgin Hebrew - Isaiah 7:14 - Matthew 1:18-25 - 732 BCE ]

[ 3. Children are killed by Herod - Jeremiah 31:15 - Matthew 2:16-18 - 580 BCE ]

[ 4. Born of the family line of Jesse - Isaiah 11:1 - Luke 3:32 - 732 BCE ]

[ 5. Born into the Tribe of Judah - Genesis 49:10 - Revelations 5:5 - 1513 BCE ]

[ 6. Born in Bethlehem - Micah 5:2 - Matthew 2:1-6 - 717 BCE ]

[ 7. Seed of David - Jeremiah 23:5 - Luke 3:31 - 580 BCE ]

[ 8. Seed of Jacob - Numbers 24:17 - Luke 3:34 - 1473 BCE ]

[ 9. Seed of Isaac - Genesis 21:12 - Luke 3:23-34 - 1513 BCE ]

[ 10. Seed of Abraham - Genesis 22:18 - Matthew 1:1 - 1513 BCE ]

PROPHECIES ON HIS PERSONALITY

[ 1. His zeal for this Father (YHWY) - Psalms 69:9 - John 2:15-17 - 460 BCE ]

[2. His existence before creation - Micah 5:2 - 1 Peter 1:20 - 717 BCE ]

[ 3. He shall be called Lord - Psalms 110:1 - Acts 2:36 - 460 BCE ]

[ 4. Called Immanuel (God with us) - Isaiah 7:14 - Matthew 1:22-23 - 732 BCE ]

[ 5. Anointed by the Spirit (HS) - Isaiah 11:2 - Matthew 3:16-17 - 732 BCE ]

[ 6. He is a Prophet - Deuteronomy 18:18-19 - Acts 3:18-25 - 1473 BCE ]

[ 7. He will be a Priest - Psalms 110:4 - Hebrews 5:5-6 - 460 BCE ]

[ 8. He will be a Judge - Isaiah 33:32 - John 5:22-23 - 732 BCE ]

[ 9. He will be a King - Psalms 2:6 - John 18:33-37 - 460 BCE ]

PROPHECIES CONCERNING HIS PUBLIC MINISTRY

[ 1. Will be preceded by a messenger - Isaiah 40:3 - Matthew 3:1-3 - 732 BCE ]

[ 2. He would perform miracles - Isaiah 35:5-6 - Matthew 9:35 & 11:4 - 732 BCE ]

[ 3. Ministry to begin in Galilee - Isaiah 9:1-2 - Matthew 4:12-17 - 732 BCE ]

[ 4. Would teach with parables - Psalms 78:1-4 - Matthew 13:34-35 - 460 BCE ]
[ 5. He would preach in temple - Malachi 3:1 - Matthew 21:10-12 - 443 BCE ]

[ 6. Enter Jerusalem on a donkey - Zechariah 9:9 - Matthew 21:1-7 - 518 BCE ]

[ 7. Stone of stumbling to Jews - Isaiah 28:16; Psalms 118:22 - 1 Peter 2:6-8 - 732 BCE ]

[ 8. Light to Gentiles - Isaiah 49:6 - Acts 13:46-48 - 732 BCE ]

PROPHECIES CONCERNING HIS RESURRECTION AND ASCENSION

[ 1. Raised from the dead - Psalms 16:8-11 - Acts 2:24-31 - 460 BCE ]

[ 2. Only begotten Son of God (YHWH) - Psalms 2:7 - Acts 13:32-35 - 460 BCE ]

[ 3. Ascended to God (YHWH) - Psalms 68:18 - Ephesians 2:8-10; John 6:26 - 460 BCE ]

[ 4. Seated at the Right Hand of God (YHWH) - Psalms 110.1 - Hebrews 1:3-13 - 460 BCE]

CONCLUSION:

As can easily be seen from the examples given, that when an apparent contradiction is researched and studied in depth, it proves to be NOT a contradiction, but a lack of understanding on the part of those calling it a contradiction. The Caliph Saladin, for example, once claimed the John 1:1 was a contradiction based on his reading of the Latin Vulgate of Jerome, but as we have seen, it was NOT a Bible contradiction. It was simply a failure on the translators part to adequately capture the understanding of what the original writer writing in his own language and culture meant/said in his original writing.

Likewise, we can see from all the prophecies about Jesus (Yeshua) that the Bible truly is inspired and the word of God (YHWH). As brought out by one writer, it would have been mathematically impossible for them to have all been fulfilled without God (YHWH) having given them and maneuvered events to have them fulfilled. Also, it proves the harmony of the Bible throughout, i.e., the New Testament is simply the fulfillment of the Old Testament. [/quote]

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[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 947A]

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: John 3:11 – 14, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

And as was recorded in Psalm's 119:66 - 68, [AV] “Teach me good judgment and knowledge: for I have believed thy commandments. 67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word. 68 Thou art good, and doest good; teach me thy statutes.” At this time the Hebrews were Almighty God (YHWH) chosen people due to his covenant with their forefather Abraham, yet they proved to be a stiff-necked people per Exodus 33:1 – 6, [AV] “And the LORD said unto Moses, Depart, and go up hence, thou and the people which thou hast brought up out of the land of Egypt, unto the land which I sware unto Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, saying, Unto thy seed will I give it: 2 And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the Canaanite, the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite: 3 Unto a land flowing with milk and honey: for I will not go up in the midst of thee; for thou art a stiffnecked people: lest I consume thee in the way. 4 And when the people heard these evil tidings, they mourned: and no man did put on him his ornaments. 5 For the LORD had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel, Ye are a stiffnecked people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee. 6 And the children of Israel stripped themselves of their ornaments by the mount Horeb.”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the Cardamom , sometimes cardamon or cardamum,[1] is a spice made from the seeds of several plants in the genera Elettaria and Amomum in the family Zingiberaceae. Both genera are native to the Indian subcontinent and Indonesia. They are recognized by their small seed pods: triangular in cross-section and spindle-shaped, with a thin, papery outer shell and small, black seeds; Elettaria pods are light green and smaller, while Amomum pods are larger and dark brown.
The first references to trade in cardamom from Sri Lanka, where it is grown on a small scale in montane forests in the central mountain ranges, are from the 12th century CE.[2] Nowadays, it is also cultivated in some other countries, such as Guatemala, Malaysia and Tanzania.[3] The German coffee planter Oscar Majus Kloeffer introduced Indian cardamom (kerala) to cultivation in Guatemala before World War I; by 2000, that country had become the biggest producer and exporter of cardamom in the world, followed by India.[4]
Cardamom is the world's third-most expensive spice, surpassed in price per weight only by vanilla and saffron.[5]
Etymology
The word "cardamom" is derived from the Latin cardamomum,[6] which is the Latinisation of the Greek ?????????? (kardamomon),[7] a compound of ???????? (kardamon), "cress"[8] + ?????? (amomon), which was probably the name for a kind of Indian spice plant.[9] The earliest attested form of the word ???????? signifying "cress" is the Mycenaean Greek ka-da-mi-ja, written in Linear B syllabic script,[10] in the list of flavourings on the "Spice" tablets found among palace archives in the House of the Sphinxes in Mycenae.[11]
The modern genus name Elettaria is derived from the local name. The root ?lam is attested in all Dravidian languages[12] viz. Kannada elakki (??????), Telugu yelakulu (???????), Tamil elakkai (????????) and elakka (????????) in Malayalam. The second element kai means "seed" or "fruit". The Malabar region had historical trade connections and was a prominent area of cardamom cultivation. A related root is also present in Hindi ilaychi (??????), Bengali ælachi (?????) and Punjabi ilaichi (????) "green cardamom". In Sindhi, it is called photta. In Pashto, it is called lachi. In Sanskrit, it was known as ela (???) or ellka (???????). In Marathi, it is commonly known as velchi (?????) or veldoda (???????).[13] In Sri Lanka, the plant is known as enasal in the Sinhala language.
Types and distribution
The two main types of cardamom are:
• True or green cardamom (or when bleached, white cardamom[14]) comes from the species Elettaria cardamomum and is distributed from India to Malaysia. What is often referred to as white cardamon is actually Siam cardamom, Amomum krervanh.[15]
• Black cardamom, also known as brown, greater, large, longer, or Nepal cardamom, comes from species Amomum subulatum and is native to the eastern Himalayas and mostly cultivated in Eastern Nepal, Sikkim, and parts of Darjeeling district in West Bengal of India, and southern Bhutan.
The two types of cardamom, ?????????? and ??????, were distinguished in the fourth century BCE by the Greek father of botany, Theophrastus. Theophrastus and informants knew that these varieties were originally and solely from India.[16]
Uses
Both forms of cardamom are used as flavourings and cooking spices in both food and drink, and as a medicine. E. cardamomum (green cardamom) is used as a spice, a masticatory, and in medicine; it is also smoked.[17]

Besides use as flavourant and spice in foods, cardamom-flavoured tea, also flavoured with cinnamon, is consumed as a hot beverage in Bangladesh, India, Nepal, and Pakistan.
Cardamom has a strong, unique taste, with an intensely aromatic, resinous fragrance. Black cardamom has a distinctly more smokey, though not bitter, aroma, with a coolness some consider similar to mint.
Green cardamom is one of the most expensive spices by weight, but little is needed to impart flavor. It is best stored in the pod, as exposed or ground seeds quickly lose their flavor. Grinding the pods and seeds together lowers both the quality and the price. For recipes requiring whole cardamom pods, a generally accepted equivalent is 10 pods equals ?1 1/2 teaspoons of ground cardamom.[citation needed][18]
It is a common ingredient in Indian cooking. It is also often used in baking in the Nordic countries, in particular in Sweden, Norway, and Finland, where it is used in traditional treats such as the Scandinavian Jule bread Julekake, the Swedish kardemummabullar sweet bun, and Finnish sweet bread pulla. In the Middle East, green cardamom powder is used as a spice for sweet dishes, as well as traditional flavouring in coffee and tea. Cardamom is used to a wide extent in savoury dishes. In some Middle Eastern countries, coffee and cardamom are often ground in a wooden mortar, a mihbaj, and cooked together in a skillet, a mehmas, over wood or gas, to produce mixtures as much as 40% cardamom.
In Asia, both types of cardamom are widely used in both sweet and savory dishes, particularly in the south. Both are frequent components in spice mixes, such as Indian and Nepali masalas and Thai curry pastes. Green cardamom is often used in traditional Indian sweets and in masala chai (spiced tea). Both are also often used as a garnish in basmati rice and other dishes. Individual seeds are sometimes chewed and used in much the same way as chewing gum. It is used by confectionery giant Wrigley; its Eclipse Breeze Exotic Mint packaging indicates the product contains "cardamom to neutralize the toughest breath odors". It is also included in aromatic bitters, gin, and herbal teas.
In Korea, medicinal cardamom (Amomum villosum var. xanthioides) and black cardamom (Amomum tsao-ko) is used in traditional tea called jeho-tang.
Composition

Cardamom (E. cardamomum) essential oil in clear glass vial
The content of essential oil in the seeds is strongly dependent on storage conditions, but may be as high as 8%. In the oil were found ?-terpineol 45%, myrcene 27%, limonene 8%, menthone 6%, ?-phellandrene 3%, 1,8-cineol 2%, sabinene 2% and heptane 2%. Other sources report 1,8-cineol (20 to 50%), ?-terpenylacetate (30%), sabinene, limonene (2 to 14%), and borneol.[citation needed]
In the seeds of round cardamom from Java (A. kepulaga), the content of essential oil is lower (2 to 4%), and the oil contains mainly 1,8-cineol (up to 70%) plus ?-pinene (16%); furthermore, ?-pinene, ?-terpineol and humulene were found.[19]
World production
Main article: Cardamom production
By the early 21st century, Guatemala had become the largest producer of cardamom in the world, with an average annual yield between 25,000 and 29,000 tonnes. The plant was introduced there in 1914 by Oscar Majus Kloeffer, a German coffee planter.[4][20] India, formerly the largest producer, since 2000 has been the second worldwide,[20] generating around 15,000 tonnes annually.[21]
Increased demand since the 1980s, principally from China, for both A. villosum and A. tsao-ko, has been met by farmers living at higher altitudes in localized areas of China, Laos, and Vietnam, people typically isolated from many other markets.[
References
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• cardamon. dictionary.com
• Weiss, E. A. (2002). Spice Crops. CABI. p. 299. ISBN 0851996051.
• Weiss, E. A. (2002). Spice Crops. CABI. p. 300. ISBN 0851996051.
• Shenoy Karun, Kerala cardamom trying to fight off its Guatemalan cousin", The Times of India, 21 April 2014; accessed 25 July 23014.
• Williams, Olivia (2014). Gin Glorious Gin. London: Headline Publishing Group. p. 283. ISBN 978-1-4722-1534-5.
• Lewis, Charlton T.; Short, Charles, "cardamomum", A Latin Dictionary, Perseus Digital Library at Tufts University
• Liddell, Henry George; Scott, Robert, ??????????, A Greek-English Lexicon (in Ancient Greek), Perseus Digital Library at Tufts University
• Liddell, Henry George; Scott, Robert, "????????", A Greek-English Lexicon, Perseus Digital Library at Tufts University
• Liddell, Henry George; Scott, Robert, "??????", A Greek-English Lexicon (in Ancient Greek), Perseus Digital Library at Tufts University
• "ka-da-mi-ja" at Palaeolexicon
• Chadwick, John, ed. (1963), "The Mycenae Tablets, 3", Transactions of the American Philosophical Society (New Series ed.), 52 (7)
• Burrow, Thomas; Emeneau, M. B. A Dravidian Etymological Dictionary. Retrieved 2014-08-02.
• "cardamom - translation - English-Marathi Dictionary - Glosbe". Glosbe.
• Bhide, Monica. "Queen of Spices", Saveur, 8 March 2010. Retrieved on 4 December 2014.
• Katzer, Gernot. "Spice Pages: Cardamom Seeds (Elettaria cardamomum)". gernot-katzers-spice-pages.com. Retrieved 2017-04-04.
• Theophrastus IX.vii.2
• "The Uses of Cardamom". Garden Guides. 2017-09-21. Retrieved 2018-05-29.
• "Cardamom Ground - 20gm - Spices - Green Valley Spices". Green Valley Spices. Retrieved 2017-02-21.
• see Farooq Anwar, Ali Abbas, Khalid M. Alkharfy, Anwar-ul-Hassan Gilani (2015). Cardamom (Elettaria cardamomum Maton) Oils. In Victor R. Preedy, (Ed.) (2015) Essential Oils in Food Preservation, Flavor and Safety. Amsterdam: Academic Press. ISBN 978-0-12-416641-7. Chapter 33 (pages 295-301). doi:10.1016/B978-0-12-416641-7.00033-X.
• Álvarez, Lorena; Gudiel, Vernick (14 February 2008). "Cardamom prices leads to a re-emergence of the green gold". El Periodico (in Spanish).
• Batres, Alexis (6 August 2012). "Looking for new markets". El Periodico (in Spanish). Guatemala. Archived from the original on 19 April 2014.
• Buckingham, J.S. & Petheram, R.J. 2004, Cardamom cultivation and forest biodiversity in northwest Vietnam, Agricultural Research and Extension Network, Overseas Development Institute, London UK.
• Sarah Turner, Christine Bonnin, and Jean Michaud (2017) Frontier Livelihoods: Hmong in the Sino-Vietnamese Borderlands. Seattle: University of Washington Press. Pp. 104-124.
• Aubertine, C. 2004, Cardamom (Amomum spp.) in Lao PDR: the hazardous future of an agroforest system product, in 'Forest products, livelihoods and conservation: case studies of non-timber forest products systems vol. 1-Asia, Center for International Forestry Research. Bogor, Indonesia. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardamom ON 7/25/2018]
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In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

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A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 1 Timothy 3:2, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Clearly the leaders of a congregation should strive to be blameless as far as humanely possible. Likewise all genuine followers of the Prince of Peace, Jesus (Yeshua) should also strive to do the same. The Bible goes on with the qualification he should have and all others should strive to cultivate also at 1 Timothy 3:3 – 6, [AV] “Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.”

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[2] THE APOCRYPHA, WHAT IS IT?

You are unaware with respect many books of the apocrypha, let's look at a much better list than yours, now start learning instead of posting nonsense.
[quote] First, let's consider what they are as defined by the Columbia Encyclopedia, sixth edition, by Columbia University Press. This encyclopedia defines the Apocrypha as, "(pk´rf) (KEY) [Gr.,=hidden things], term signifying a collection of early Jewish writings excluded from the canon of the Hebrew scriptures. It is not clear why the term was chosen." In reality they were nothing but uninspired writings, many purporting to be written by other than who was actually their author, or basically illegitimate and lacking credence. In fact, the real author of only one of the Apocrypha is actually known. Some religions, unfortunately, have included some of the Apocrypha in their Bibles, but even these were few in number. A list of most of the Apocrypha follows:

1 Clement, 1st Apocalypse of James, 2 Clement, 2nd Apocalypse of James, 1 Esdras, 2 Esdras, Acts of Andrew, Acts of Apollonius, Acts of Carpus, Acts of John,Acts of Paul, Acts of Perpetua and Felicitas, Acts of Peter, Acts of Peter and the Twelve, Acts of Pilate, Acts of the Apostles, Acts of Thomas, Additions to the Book of Esther, Anonymous Anti-Montanist. Anti-Marcionite Prologues, Apelles, Apocalypse of John, Apocalypse of Peter, Apocryphon of John, Apollonius, Apology of Aristides, Aristo of Pella, Ascension of Isaiah, Athenagoras of Athens, Authoritative Teaching, Bardesanes, Baruch, Basilides, Eel and the Dragon, Book of Elchasai, Book of Thomas the Contender, Books of Jeu, Caius, Celsus, Christian Sibyllines, Claudius Apollinaris, Clement of Alexandria, Colossians, Coptic Apocalypse of Paul, Coptic Apocalypse of Peter, Dialogue of the Savior, Diatessaron, Didache, Didascalia, Dionysius of Corinth, Discourse on the Eighth and Ninth, Dura-Europos Gospel Harmony, Ecclesiasticus, or the Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach, Egerton Gospel, Epiphanes On Righteousness, Epistle of Barnabas, Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus, Epistula Apostolorum, Excerpts of Theodotus, Fayyum Fragment, Fifth and Sixth Books of Esra, Fronto, Galen, Gospel of Judas, Gospel of Mary, Gospel of Peter, Gospel of Philip, Gospel of the Ebionite, Gospel of the Egyptians, Gospel of the Hebrews, Gospel of the Nazoreans, Gospel of the Savior, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Truth, Hegesippus, Heracleon, Hippolytus of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Infancy Gospel of James, Infancy Gospel of Thomas, Inscription of Abercius, Irenaeus of Lyons, Isidore, Judith, Julius Cassianus, Justin Martyr, Kerygmata Petrou, Letter from Vienna and Lyons, Letter of Jeremiah, Letter of Peter to Philip, Lost Sayings Gospel Q, Lucian of Samosata, Mara Bar Serapion, Marcion, Marcus Aurelius, Martyrdom of Polycarp, Maximus of Jerusalem, Melchizedek, Melito of Sardis, Muratorian Canon, Naassene Fragment, Octavius of Minucius Felix, Odes of Solomon, Ophite Diagrams, Origen, Oxyrhynchus 1224 Gospel, Oxyrhynchus 840 Gospel, Pantaenus, Papias, Passion Narrative, Passion of the Scillitan Martyrs , Philostratus, Pistis Sophia, Pliny the Younger, Polycarp to the Philippians, Polycrates of Ephesus, Prayer of Azariah and the Song of the Three Jews, Prayer of Manasseh, Preaching of Peter, Ptolemy, Quadratus of Athens, Rhodon, Secret Book of James, Secret Mark, Serapion of Antioch, Shepherd of Hermas, Signs Gospel, Sophia of Jesus Christ, Suetonius, Susanna, Tacitus, Tatian's Address to the Greeks, The Additions to the Book of Daniel, Tertullian, Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs, Theophilus of Antioch, Theophilus of Caesarea, Tobit, Traditions of Matthias, Treatise on the Resurrection, Trimorphic Protennoia, Valentinus, Victor I, Wisdom of Solomon, etc.

As can be seen many of these none illegitimate books try to give themselves credence by closely mimicking the names of actual legitimate canonical books of the Bible. These books are often called the pseudepigrapha? The term is a transliteration of the Greek plural noun that literally means "with false superscription". According to Webster's Third New International Dictionary (p. 1830), the term can be defined as, "spurious works purporting to emanate from biblical characters". The Random House Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language defines the term as, "Certain writings (other than the canonical books and the Apocrypha) professing to be Biblical in character, but not considered canonical or inspired. These are NOT lost books, just NOT legitimate books of Bible cannon.[source - The Book of Enoch is NOT an Inspired Writing:

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Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Revelation 12:12, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes we are living in troublesome times that will grow ever worse as we approach the culmination of the end times that we are living in per Revelation 12:12. We must seek to win Almighty God (YHWH) approval to Titus 2:12, [AV] “For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;” And as Proverbs 3:5 – 7, [AV] puts it, “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.”

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[2] NONE BELIEVERS IN JESUS (YESHUA) DO NOT HAVE THE TRUTH

As Jude clearly shows, Almighty God (YHWH) has appointed his only begotten son Jesus (Yeshua) to be the savior of all that believe in him, Jude 25, “ to the only God our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, might, and authority for all past eternity and now and into all eternity. Amen.” (New World Translation revised; NWTr), and this is further amplified at Acts 13:23, “According to his promise, from the offspring of this man, God has brought to Israel a savior, Jesus.” (NWRT) . Clearly showing to be saved one must accept Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) sion as his savior.

Here is an actual reply to one of these NONE believers in Jesus which is in sharp contrast to Biblical realities.

FIRST, He said
PEace to the sincere people and not to the distorters and rejectors of truth.

Yet he was distorting and rejecting truth in violation of John 8:32, "and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (American Standard Version; ASV).

SECOND, He falsely accuse others of blaspheme for telling the truth, the facts in harmony with John 8:32, "and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), as previously quoted also in FIRST.

THIRD, He said,
The Qur'an says very clearly that there is only One God, Allah

But you forget to mention that the Quran is only a distorted Bible knockoff and that old middle eastern celestial Moon god, "Allah," is only a mythical god that only exist in the imaginations of deceived men, but has no physical existence as does the genuine (real) the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is, so get real. As Isaiah 45:18 states, “For this is what Jehovah says, The Creator of the heavens, the true God, The One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it, Who did not create it simply for nothing, but formed it to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.” ((New World Translation revised; NWTr–), and Psalm 83:18, “May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.” ((New World Translation revised; NWTr–).

FOURTH, He said,,
. Belief in more than one God is Shirk (polytheism) and a major sin according to the Qur'an.”

So, who believes in more than one the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael, creator of all there is? I certainly do not, but I also do not believe in any mythical god that only exist in the imaginations of deceived men as you do.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] KOINE GREEK WORDS FOR LOVE

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 950A]

There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass. Joshua 21:45, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Yes, Almighty God (YHWH) when he promises, He will surely carry it out, and this is testified to at Hebrews 6:16 -19, [AV] “For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife. 17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: 18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: 19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;”

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[2] KOINE GREEK WORDS FOR LOVE

In ancient Koine Greek there are actually four (4) words for love, but they all have very different meanings. Some translators lost sight of this fact and rendered them simply with the English word ‘love’; thereby, not accurately conveying the meaning the original writer was portraying in his language. But most modern translations correctly translate the meaning the original writers had in mind. See the New World Translation revised for an example of this.

Now let’s investigate these four words used for ‘love’ in Koine Greek. There are four used in Bible literature and they are as follows:

Agape = Love from God - unconditional, does not depend on the object. Agape love is supernatural and only comes from God. We can only reflect it, we cannot produce it.
• 1 Cor chap 13, the characteristics of agape are listed as follows, “ (1 Corinthians 13:1-13) If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels but do not have love, I have become a clanging gong or a clashing cymbal. 2 And if I have the gift of prophecy and understand all the sacred secrets and all knowledge, and if I have all the faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 And if I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body so that I may boast, but do not have love, I do not benefit at all. 4 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous. It does not brag, does not get puffed up, 5 does not behave indecently, does not look for its own interests, does not become provoked. It does not keep account of the injury. 6 It does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth. 7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8 Love never fails. But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away with. 9 For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially, 10 but when what is complete comes, what is partial will be done away with. 11 When I was a child, I used to speak as a child, to think as a child, to reason as a child; but now that I have become a man, I have done away with the traits of a child. 12 For now we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be face-to-face. At present I know partially, but then I will know accurately, just as I am accurately known. 13 Now, however, these three remain: faith, hope, love; but the greatest of these is love., (New World Translation revised; NWTr)
• Mark 10:51 Amazingly Jesus looked at the Rich young Ruler and loved him, "agape"!

Phileo = Friendship, from knowledge and appreciation of the object.
• John 21:15-17 Agape and phileo: Simon, {son} of Jonas, lovest (agape) thou me? Yea Lord, thou knowest that I love (phileo) thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep (little lambs). He saith to him again the second time, Simon, {son} of Jonas, lovest (agape) thou me? He saith unto him, yea Lord thou knowest that I love (phileo) thee. He saith unto him feed (shepherd) my sheep. He saith unto him the third time, Simon, {son} of Jonas, lovest (phileo) thou me? Peter was grieved because he said to him a third time lovest (phileo) thou me? And he saith unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things, thou knowest that I love (phileo) thee. Jesus saith unto him, feed my sheep. Peter cannot bring himself to say "agape", because he has recently denied Jesus 3 times. He knows that Jesus would just say "well, why did you deny me?". This is a poignant narrative that cuts right down to Peter's soul. The three denials of Peter, and the three questions of Jesus, much better than "scolding" Peter. This scripture as rendered in a modern translation captures this meaning. (1 Corinthians 13:1-13) If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels but do not have love, I have become a clanging gong or a clashing cymbal. 2 And if I have the gift of prophecy and understand all the sacred secrets and all knowledge, and if I have all the faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 And if I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body so that I may boast, but do not have love, I do not benefit at all. 4 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous. It does not brag, does not get puffed up, 5 does not behave indecently, does not look for its own interests, does not become provoked. It does not keep account of the injury. 6 It does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth. 7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8 Love never fails. But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away with. 9 For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially, 10 but when what is complete comes, what is partial will be done away with. 11 When I was a child, I used to speak as a child, to think as a child, to reason as a child; but now that I have become a man, I have done away with the traits of a child. 12 For now we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be face-to-face. At present I know partially, but then I will know accurately, just as I am accurately known. 13 Now, however, these three remain: faith, hope, love; but the greatest of these is love.” [NWRT]

Storgas = Natural affection - family love, even animals have it by instinct.
• 2 Tim 3:3 In the last days, some will be without natural affection = astorgas. Now here is the rendering of this scripture in a literal modern translation, (2 Timothy 3:3) having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness,

Eros = Physical love (intercourse)

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] HELL? WHAT REALLY IS THE BIBLICAL HELL?

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 991A]

And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them. 18 And, behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with a palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and to lay him before him. 19 And when they could not find by what way they might bring him in because of the multitude, they went upon the housetop, and let him down through the tiling with his couch into the midst before Jesus. 20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee. Luke 5:17 – 20 [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Here Jesus (Yeshua) clearly demonstrated that his Father, Almighty God (YHWH), had given Him the power to heal all types of ailments, even to resurrect the dead as shown at Matthew 22:31 - 33, [AV],“But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. 33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.”

Even more remarkable, Jesus (Yeshua) could heal at a distance, and this was well shown at Luke 7:1 – 10, [AV], “Now when he had ended all his sayings in the audience of the people, he entered into Capernaum. 2 And a certain centurion’s servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die. 3 And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant. 4 And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this: 5 For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue. 6 Then Jesus went with them. And when he was now not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying unto him, Lord, trouble not thyself: for I am not worthy that thou shouldest enter under my roof: 7 Wherefore neither thought I myself worthy to come unto thee: but say in a word, and my servant shall be healed. 8 For I also am a man set under authority, having under me soldiers, and I say unto one, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it. 9 When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel. 10 And they that were sent, returning to the house, found the servant whole that had been sick.”

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[2] HELL? WHAT REALLY IS THE BIBLICAL HELL?

For different people this question, What Really Is The Biblical Hell? Brings different things or images to mind. Hell is generally thought of as a place of punishment for sin. Concerning sin and its effect, the Bible shows, " That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 5:21 AV).
In addition, the Bible also state: " For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23 AV). As the punishment for sin is death, the fundamental question in determining the true nature of hell is: What happens to us when we die ?
Does life of some kind, in some form, continue after death? What is hell, and what type of people go there ? What is the hope for those in hell? The Bible answers all of these questions.

Is there life after death? Does something inside us, a soul or a spirit, survive the death of the body? Think on how the first man, Adam, came to have life, " And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7 AV); therefore, though breathing sustained his life, putting "the breath of life" into his nostrils involved much more than simply blowing air into his lungs. It meant that God put into Adam's lifeless body the spark of life-"the force of life," which is active in all earthly creatures, " And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die." (Genesis 6:17 AV), and " All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died." (Genesis 7:22 AV). This animating force was referred to in the Bible as the 'spirit,' " For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." (James 2:26 AV). This 'spirit' can be likened to an electric current that activates a light bulb or an appliance and enables it to perform its intended function. Since current never takes on the features of the equipment it activates, this life-force likewise does not take on any of the characteristics of the creatures it animates. It has no personality and no reasoning ability.

However where does this 'spirit' go when a person dies? The Bible shows, " His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." (Psalms 146:4 AV). Thus, when a person dies, his life-activating force or 'spirit' does not go on existing in another realm as a spirit creature, " Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7 AV). This means that any hope of future life for that person now rests entirely with God.

The ancient Greek philosophers Socrates and Plato held that a soul inside a person survives death and never dies, and so do many fundamentalist, Catholics, and Authodox. However what does the Bible teach about this soul? In, " And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Genesis 2:7 AV), it clearly shows that man did not receive a 'soul' but became a living 'soul' or person. The Bible speak of a soul's doing work, craving food, being kidnapped, experiencing sleeplessness, and so forth, " And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people." (Leviticus 23:30 AV), " When the LORD thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, I will eat flesh, because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after." (Deuteronomy 12:20 AV), " My soul melteth for heaviness: strengthen thou me according unto thy word." (Psalms 119:28 AV). Therefore, the Bible shows a person himself/herself is a 'soul.' Thus, when a person dies, the 'soul' dies also since they are one and the same, " Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." (Ezekiel 18:4 AV).

Now the question is, what is the condition of the dead? When pronouncing sentence Upon Adam, Jehovah stated: " In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." (Genesis 3:19 AV). Where was Adam before God formed him from the dust of the ground and gave him life? Nowhere, he simply did not exist! When he died, Adam returned to that state of complete absence of life. The condition of the dead is made clear in the Bible, " For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten." (Ecclesiastes 9:5 AV) and " Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest." (Ecclesiastes 9:10 AV). According to the Bible, death is a state of nonexistence. The dead have no awareness, no feelings, no thoughts!

What is the common end for all of mankind? Unending torment or the common grave?
Since the dead have no conscious existence, hell cannot be a fiery place of torment where the wicked suffer after death. Therefore, what is hell? Examining what happened to Jesus after he died helps to answer that question. The Bible writer Luke recounts: " He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption." (Acts 2:31 AV). Where was this hell to which even Jesus went? The apostle Paul wrote: "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" (1 Corinthians 15:3-4 AV). This clearly shows that Jesus was in hell, the grave, but he was not abandoned there, for he was raised up, or resurrected. Consider also the case of the righteous man Job, who suffered much for his integrity to God. Wishing to escape his plight, he pleaded: " O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!" (Job 14:13 AV)(Note, In the King James Bible, AV, the Greek word Hades is rendered 'hell' in each of its ten occurrences in the New Testament. For more information see a reliable interlinear lexicon such as "The Rotherham Diaglott-interlinear," "The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures," or "The Emphatic Diaglott). How unreasonable to think that Job desired to go to a fieryhot place for protection! To Job, "hell" was simply the grave, where his suffering would end. The Bible hell, then, is the common grave of mankind where good people (even Jesus went there for parts of 3 days)as well as bad ones go.

What is hellfire? Could it be that the fire of hell is symbolic of all-consuming, or thorough, destruction? Separating fire from Hades, or hell, the Scriptures say: " And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." (Revelation 20:14 AV). "The lake" mentioned here is symbolic, since death and hell (Hades) that are thrown into it cannot literally be burned.

The lake of fire has a meaning similar to that of the fiery Gehenna (hell fire in KJV, AV) that Jesus spoke of at, " But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." (Matthew 5:22 AV), "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." (Mark 9:47-48 AV). Gehenna the ancient Greek word often translated as 'hell fire' occurs 12 times in the original ancient Greek manuscripts, and it refers to the valley of Hinnom, outside the walls of Jerusalem. When Jesus was on earth, this valley was used as a garbage dump, "where the dead bodies of criminals, and the carcasses of animals, and every other kind of filth was cast." (Smith's Dictionary of the Bible). These fires were kept burning by adding sulfur to burn up the refuse. Jesus used that valley as a proper symbol of everlasting destruction. As does Gehenna, the lake of fire symbolizes eternal destruction.

Death and Hades are "hurled into" it in that they will be done away when mankind is freed from sin and the condemnation of death. Willful, unrepentant sinners will also have their 'portion' in that lake, " But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8 AV). They also will be annihilated forever. On the other hand, those in God's memory who are in hell, the common grave of mankind, shall have a marvelous future.

The common grave of mankind, hell will be emptied, as shown, " And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." (Revelation 20:13 AV). Clearly the Bible shows hell will be emptied, As Jesus promised, " And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43 AV) and " And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust." (Acts 24:15 AV).

In the new world of God's making, resurrected humans who comply with his righteous laws will never need to die again, as shown at " He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it." (Isaiah 25:8 AV). Jehovah (Yahweh), " And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." (Revelation 21:4 AV), What a blessing is to be provided for those in hell, " And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3 AV)

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] THE RARE FRUITS AND VEGETABLES - Black cardamom

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 952A]

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. Galatians 5:22 – 23, [authorized King James Bible; AV]

To develop these, it would be wise to follow Jesus (Yeshua) counsel that we should prey for then, and he assures us per Luke 11:13, [AV] “If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?”

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[2] Here is a Commentary on Bountiful Trees and Vegetables God (YHWH) has provided for mankind, specifically the Black cardamom, also known as hill cardamom,[1] Bengal cardamom,[1] greater cardamom,[1] Indian cardamom,[1] Nepal cardamom,[1] winged cardamom,[1] or brown cardamom, comes from either of two species in the family Zingiberaceae. Its seed pods have a strong, camphor-like flavor, with a smoky character derived from the method of drying. In Hindi/Urdu it's called ???? ??????.
Characteristics
The pods are used as a spice, in a similar manner to the green Indian cardamom pods, but with a different flavor. Unlike green cardamom, this spice is rarely used in sweet dishes. Its smoky flavor and aroma derive from traditional methods of drying over open flames.
Species
At least two distinct species of black cardamom occur: Amomum subulatum (also known as Nepal cardamom) and Amomum tsao-ko. The pods of A. subulatum, used primarily in the cuisines of India and certain regional cuisines of Pakistan, are the smaller of the two, while the larger pods of A. tsao-ko (Chinese: wiktionary:??; pinyin: c?ogu?; Vietnamese: th?o qu?) are used in Chinese cuisine, particularly that of Sichuan, and Vietnamese cuisine.
Culinary uses
Black cardamom is used for hearty meat stews and similar dishes. Although the flavor differs from the smaller green cardamom, black cardamom is sometimes used by large-scale commercial bakers because of its low cost.[citation needed]
Black cardamom is often erroneously[2] described as an inferior substitute for green cardamom by those unfamiliar with the spice. It is just not as well suited for the sweet/hot dishes that typically include cardamom and that are more commonly prepared outside the plant's native range.
The spice adds very intense aroma when used in Black Tea or Green Tea.
In China, the pods are used for jin-jin braised meat dishes, particularly in the cuisine of the central-western province of Sichuan. The pods are often used in Vietnam, where they are called th?o qu? and used as an ingredient in the broth for the noodle soup called ph?.
The largest producer of the black cardamom is Nepal, followed by India and Bhutan. In traditional Chinese medicine, black cardamom is used for stomach disorders and malaria.[citation needed] In the traditional medicine of India, decoction of Amomum subulatum rhizomes is used in the therapy of jaundice.[3]
References
1.
• "Amomum subulatum". Germplasm Resources Information Network (GRIN). Agricultural Research Service (ARS), United States Department of Agriculture (USDA). Retrieved 11 December 2017.
• Spice Pages: Black Cardamom (Amomum subulatum)
• Tewari D, Mocan A, Parvanov ED, Sah AN, Nabavi SM, Huminiecki L, Ma ZF, Lee YY, Horba?czuk JO, Atanasov AG. Ethnopharmacological Approaches for Therapy of Jaundice: Part I. Front Pharmacol. 2017 Aug 15;8:518. doi: 10.3389/fphar.2017.00518. ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_cardamom ON 7/25/2018]
View picture of fruit at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_cardamom

In Genesis 1:11-13, "And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, and fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (American Standard Version, ASV)[for more details, go to www.jw.org].

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON WHAT THE EARLIEST OF CHRISTIANS BELIEVED – SECTION 1 OF 2

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 953A]

But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd. 37 Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few; 38 Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest. Matthew 9:36 – 37 [authorized King James Bible; AV]

Here Jesus (Yeshua) was most concerned with respect s spiritual healing of the people. He well knew most would reject his spiritual healing message. But as Pslams 72:2 – 7, [AV] revealed, He knew a great judgment was coming in the future and he wanted all of mankind to be saved, “He shall judge thy people with righteousness, and thy poor with judgment. 3 The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness. 4 He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor. 5 They shall fear thee as long as the sun and moon endure, throughout all generations. 6 He shall come down like rain upon the mown grass: as showers that water the earth. 7 In his days shall the righteous flourish; and abundance of peace so long as the moon endureth.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON WHAT THE EARLIEST OF CHRISTIANS BELIEVED – SECTION 1 OF 2

To understand what the earliest Christians believed we need to have an accurate understanding of who they were and where they had for the most part came from. The first Christians came out of Judaism and were strict monotheists. When they became Christian they maintained their monotheistic ways. Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) himself was born a Jew, he was trained by his Jewish parents in the Old Testament scriptures. His teachings were Jewish to the foundation; yes, he preached a new gospel, but he did not preach a new theology. As proof of this he accepted and quoted continually from the great test of Jewish monotheism, the divinely inspired Hebrew Text that we commonly call the Old Testament, and proclaimed “ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” (Deuteronomy 6:4 AV). In the grammar of this verse, the word ‘one’ has no plural modifiers to even suggest it applied to anything other than one individual. Tom Harpur states, "As early as the 8th century, the Theologian St. John of Damascus frankly admitted what every modern critical scholar of the NT now realizes: that neither the Doctrine of the Trinity nor that of the 2 natures of Jesus Christ is explicitly set out in scripture. In fact, if you take the record as it is and avoid reading back into it the dogmatic definitions of a later age, you cannot find what is traditionally regarded as orthodox Christianity in the Bible at all." -- For Christ's Sake. And, The Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching." -- (1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L. And "The belief as so defined was reached only in the 4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly and formally a biblical belief. The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of "person" and "nature: which are Gk philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as "essense" and "substance" were erroneously applied to God by some theologians." Dictionary of the Bible by John L. McKenzie, S.J. p. 899

PART 2:
During his life, while he was gathering followers, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) never claimed to be God. Always in everything he said and did he never considered himself as being equal to God in any way, not in power, not in knowledge, and not in age. In all periods of his existence, both on earth and in Heaven, he always spoke and acted as a subordinate to his Father, Almighty God (YHWH). He was always the lessor or subordinate one to Almighty God (YHWH). After his resurrection by his Father, Almighty God (YHWH), he told Mary Magdalene to tell his disciples, ““ Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” (John 20:17 AV). This clearly showed that the resurrected Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) although now a mighty spirit being was still not Almighty God (YHWH). As reported by the Apostle John in the last book of the Bible, Revelation, “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.” (Revelation 1:5-6 AV), “ Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.” (Revelation 3:12 AV). Also, Paul confirms his relationship to Almighty God (YHWH) “ Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;” (2 Corinthians 1:3 AV).

The Apostle Paul clearly spoke of Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and Almighty God (YHWH) as distinctly separate individuals “ But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.” (1 Corinthians 8:6 AV), and also shows this clear diferentiation when he mentions “ I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.” (1 Timothy 5:21 AV).

Very significantly Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) tole the Jews, “ For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.” (John 6:38 AV), then further draws the distinction between himself and Almighty God (YHWH) by saying “ And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.” (Mark 10:18 AV). Also, most significant are his words “It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. 19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. 20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.” (John 8:17-20 AV). Thus Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) shows that he and his Father, God Almighty (YHWH) must be two distinct individuals as how else could there really be two witnesses?

When Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) started his ministry as he came out of the baptismal water, his Father, God Almighty (YHWH) spoke, “And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” Matthew 3:16-17 AV). God Almighty (YHWH) definitely was not saying that he was his own son, and that he approved of himself or sent himself. Absolutely not, he was saying as the supreme one (superior one) that he was approving a lessor one, his son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves). Again Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) acknowledged his Father’s superiority when he said, “ The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,” (Luke 4:18 AV). This was when he, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) was given authority or commission by his superior Almighty God (YHWH) and only a superior can give authority to a lessor one or subordinate.

Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) continued to make his Father’s superiority very clear as shown when the mother of two of his disciples asked that her two sons sit one on the right and one on the life of Jesus when he came into his Kingdom, and Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) told her, “ And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.” (Matthew 20:23 AV). If Jesus had also been Almighty God (JHWH) those positions would have been his to give, but since he was not, they were not his to give. In fact Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) own prayers are a clear proof of his subordinate position to Almighty God (YHWH), “And he was withdrawn from them about a stone’s cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, 42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.” (Luke 22:41-42 AV). Obviously he was praying to someone other than himself and that someone would have to be superior to him as it would require a superior to be able to answer his prayers.

When his death as a human neared, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) cried out, “And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias. 36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down. 37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. 38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. 39 And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.” Obviously he was not deserted by himself and surely that cry was not from someone who thought himself to be God, but from one who recognized a superior. This is clearly shown by “ And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.” (Luke 23:46 AV). This clearly showed beyond doubt that Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) trusted in a superior one, Almighty God (YHWH) to resurrect him. After he died, he was dead and in a tomb for parts of three days. If he were God (YHWH) the Bible would be at odds with itself as “ Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.” (Habakkuk 1:12 AV) would be wrong. Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), however, was resurrected by God (YHWH) and this is made clear at “ Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.” (Acts 2:24 AV), i.e., the superior, Almighty God (YHWH) did indeed resurrect the lessor one, his son, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves).

Now Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) prophecy about the end-times stated, “ But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” (Mark 13:32 AV). If Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) had been the Almighty God (YHWH) he would have known the exact time for the end-times; however, since he was not, he did not know it. Likewise, “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;” (Hebrews 5:8 AV). Now can we imagine that Almighty God had to learn anything; this is patently ridicules. Also, God (YHWH) does not have to obey anyone as he is the supreme one whether those deluded in believing in a trinity recognize it or not.

Many misinformed individuals point to “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. 19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. 21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. 22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:” (John 5:18-22 AV) as support for a Trinity; however, it clearly says that the Jews wanted to kill Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) because he said “God was his Father, “ but who said that he was making himself equal to God (YHWH). Definitely not Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) as he defended himself against this false accusation “The answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do” in the very next verse, see above. Thus Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) showed the Jews that he was not equal to God and thus could not act on his own initiative. Also, “I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;” (John 10:30-35 AV). Here Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) was showing the Jews they were one in purpose, but not the same entity as he made clear in what sense he was using the title God, “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;” thus anyone trying to use this scripture to prove a trinity or even a duality is definitely coming to a wrong conclusion.

To gain a better understanding of what Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) meant by being “one” with the Father (YHWH) “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24 ¶ Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.” (John 17:21-26 AV), clearly shows as previously stated they were one in purpose just as Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) is one in purpose with his genuine follower. As an example let’s consider “I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.” (1 Corinthians 3:6-9 AV) clearly drives home about how they are ‘one’ just as Apollos and Paul are ‘one.’ They were definitely two different individuals. It is interesting to note that Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) says “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one,” he uses the word ‘one’ (Jewish, hen) in these cases, which proves he was speaking of unity of thought and purpose, but not two individuals existing as one entity.

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] DISCOURSE ON WHAT THE EARLIEST OF CHRISTIANS BELIEVED – SECTION 2 OF 2

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 954A]

If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. 15 Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee: thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands. Job 14:15 – 16 [Authorized King James Bible;AV]

Yes, Almighty God (YHWH) is waiting to resurrect all righteous individuals as shown at Luke 14:14, [AV] “And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.” Why is he waiting? He is waiting as He is missing the righteous ones or yearning for them. And Acts 24:15, [AV] makes this clear, “And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.”

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[2] DISCOURSE ON WHAT THE EARLIEST OF CHRISTIANS BELIEVED – SECTION 2 OF 2

PART 3
Now let’s consider the thoughts of his Apostles and Disciples as the earliest Christians.
The Apostle Paul clearly believed that Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and Almighty God (YHWH) were two distinct individuals for he wrote, “ For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:” (Hebrews 9:24 AV), and it would clearly be absurd to believe an individual would appear before himself.

Likewise the Apostle Peter believed they were two separate entities and made this clearly known when speaking of the resurrection of Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), “Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.” (Acts 5:31-32 AV), and Paul also says, “Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:9-11 AV). If he was also God (YHWH), how could Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) be exalted to a superior position?

Just before being stoned to death, the martyr Stephen (a disciple of Jesus) “But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. 57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, 58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul.” (Acts 7:55-58 AV). Obviously Stephen saw two separate individuals in the vision.

The Apostle John clearly believed that they were too separate individuals with Al Mighty God (YHWH) being the superior as shown by “And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. 1 ¶ And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. 6 ¶ And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.” (Revelation 4:8-5:7 AV), it is clear here that the individual on the throne is Almighty God (YHWH) and the “Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David…stood a Lamb” clearly refer to Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves). This proves that the Apostle John did not believe in a trinity or even a “duality.” An interesting commentary on this, states, “In his post-resurrection heavenly life, Jesus is portrayed as retaining a personal individuality every bit as distinct and separate from the person of God as was his in his life on earth as the terrestrial Jesus.” (the “Bulletin of the John Rylands Library,” Manchester, UK).

Likewise Thomas, who had to have everything proven to him, considered Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) a subordinate to Almighty God (YHWH) “The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. 26 ¶ And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.” Of course some will say Thomas was calling Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves), Almighty God (YHWH), but he was not, but was simply recognizing as one superior to himself. The actual Koine Greek God (ho The·os'): however, some scholars have clearly viewed this expression as an exclamation of astonishment spoken to Jesus, but directed to God. Others claim the original Koine Greek requires these words to be considered as directed to Jesus. Either way, this expression “My Lord and my God” would still have to harmonize with the rest of the Bible. The record shows that Jesus had previously sent his disciples the message, “ Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” (John 20:17 AV), thus there is absolutely no reason for believing that Thomas thought that Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) was Almighty God (YHWH).

Clearly all of Jesus’s (Jeshua or YHWH saves) Apostles and Disciples knew that he was not Almighty God (YHWH) and this is shown many times by what is written in the New Testament as previously gone over. In addition, there are many more scriptures that clearly show this and Jesus’s (Jeshua or YHWH saves) subordinate position such as:
“ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 AV), “ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 AV), “ And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 AV), “ Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19 AV), etc. Likewise, Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) clearly taught his followers not to worship him, but to worship Almighty God (YHWH) as shown, “ Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.” (Matthew 4:10 AV), “ But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.” (John 4:23 AV), “ God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24 AV), “ Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” (John 20:17 AV), “ And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.” (Luke 4:8 AV), etc. It is to be noted that Almighty God (YHWH) used Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) to create all things on earth, “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: “And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;” (Colossians 1:16-19 AV), “2 The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.” John 1:2-4 AV), “ He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.” (John 1:10 AV).

PART 4
Let’s now consider what some of the early ‘church’ fathers thought. But first let’s look at what “The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology,” “Primitive Christianity did not have an explicit doctrine of the Trinity such as subsequently elaborated in the creeds,” and what the book, “The Paganism in Our Christianity,” says, “The early Christians, however, did not at first think of applying the idea [trinity] to their own faith. They paid their devotions to God [YHWH] the Father and to Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and they recognised…the Holy Spirit; but there was no thought of these three being an actual Trinity, co-equal and united in One.” In fact it was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages and this is clearly shown in “The Two Babylons,” by Rev. Alexander Hilsop (http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/default.htm (The Two Babylons on the Internet)), and in the “Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics.” The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective." - (1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299. Last but not least, "The Church of the First Three Centuries," by Alvan Lamson stated, "The modern popular doctrine of the Trinity..derives no support from the language of Justin [Martyr]: and this observation may be extended to all the ante-Nicene Fathers; that is, to all Christian writers for three centuries after the birth of Christ. It is true, they speak of the Father, Son, and...holy Spirit, but not as co-equal, not as one numerical essence, not as Three in One, in any sense now admitted by Trinitarians. The very reverse is the fact."

The Ante-Nicene Fathers were acknowledged leading religious teachers in the early centuries after the death of Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves); therefore, what they taught and believed:

Justin Martyr, died approximately 165 A.D., stated that Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) had been a created angel who is “other than the God who made all things,” before coming onto the earthly scene. He said that Jesus was inferior to God and “never did anything except what the Creator…willed him to do and say.”

Clement of Alexandria, died approximately 215 A.D., called God “the uncreated and imperishable and only true God.” He stated that the Son “is next to the only omnipotent Father” but not equal to him.

Irenaeus, died approximately 200 A.D., stated that the prehuman Jesus had a separate existence from God and was inferior to him. He showed that Jesus is not equal to the “one true and only God,” who is “supreme over all, and besides whom there is no other.

Tertullian, died approximately 230 A.D., taught the supremacy of God. He observed: “The Father is different from the Son, as he is greater; as he who begets is different from him who is begotten; he who sends, different from him who is sent.” Also, he stated: “There was a time when the Son was not…Before all things God was alone.” Note: “The Doctrine of The Trinity defies the universally accepted and historically always held meaning of the words for father and son. Not only does it defy the meaning of these words, it destroys their meaning! This fact is important to realize for God gave us language. It was not invented by man as the evolutionist tries to say. Thus, we are not destroying man made terms, but God-given terms! These terms, as given to us by God, require that the father exists before the son, and for the son to be brought into existence by the father. This universally accepted and recognized definition is what these terms have meant from the beginning of this creation. Therefore, who has given anyone the authority to change these God-given terms now? In fact, The Lord Jesus Christ verifies the meaning of these terms when he says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." John 13:16 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." John 14:28. Here, he establishes that God is his lord, that he was sent by his lord, that God is his Father, and that his Father is greater than he himself. How could any of these declarations be true if the Doctrine of The Trinity is true? It is clearly impossible for these declarations of The Lord Jesus Christ to be true and the Doctrine of The Trinity to be True! It is easy to see that these words of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Doctrine of the Trinity are mutually exclusive and opposing views!” [from a letter of of Bro. Scaramastro one of the greatest exposers of false doctrine of all times of the Antipas Organization].
Further with respect Tertullian, The Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word [tri'as] (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A. D. 180 . . . Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian." However, this is no proof in itself that Tertullian taught the Trinity. The Catholic work Trinitas - A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity, for example, notes that some of Tertullian's words were later used by others to describe the Trinity. But then it states: "But hasty conclusions cannot be drawn from usage, for he does not apply the words to Trinitarian theology."
Hippolytus, died approximately 235 A.D., stated that God is “the one God, the first and the only One, the Maker and Lord of all,” who “had nothing co-eval [of the same age] with him…But he was One, alone by himself; who, willing it called into being what had no being before,” one of these created individuals being the created prehuman Jesus.
Origen, died approximately 250 A.D., stated “the Father and Son are two substances…two things as to their essence,” and “compared with the Father, [Jesus, the son] is a very small light.”
As Alvan Lamson stated in “The Church of the First Three Centuries,” see the first part of PART 4 above, the early church fathers, ante-Nicene Fathers, had no belief in a Trinity of a co-equal, not one in a numerical essence, nor not one as Three in One. They were basically monotheists in belief the same as Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and his Apostles and Disciples. However, the further in the stream of time from Jesus and his Apostles and Disciples the more divergence from the original beliefs became the beliefs of many so called Christians. Or in other words the greater became the variance from the proclaimed “ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” (Deuteronomy 6:4 AV). This degeneration from genuine beliefs taught by Jesus (Jeshua or YHWH saves) and his contemporary followers became greater over time and culminated in an apostate church taking orders from a pagan Roman Emperor, Constantine, whose only interest was to bring religious unity in his empire so as to keep it strong. He, Emperor Constantine, called the Council of Nicea [325 A.D.] and sent out letters to all Bishops to attend, and he dictated what doctrine would become the central doctrine of this apostate church. However, one historian of the 3 century rote of this gradual drift to the God dishonoring concept gradually coming to full fruitation as follows:

“One early witness who testifies to these early developments regarding the Trinity is Gregory of Nazianzus. In the work _Epistles 58_ Gregory Nazianzus explained the absence of the Holy Spirit from the discussions about the Godhead, by stating that "the Old Testament proclaimed the Father manifestly, and the Son more hiddenly. The New [Testament] manifested the Son and suggested the deity of the Spirit. Now the Spirit himself is resident among us, and
provides a clearer explanation of himself." As late as 380, Gregory Nazianzus wrote, "to be slightly in error [about the Holy Spirit] was to be orthodox." This statement too proves that the orthodox understanding of the Holy Spirit was not "clear" until 381. As a matter
of fact, this statement further demonstrates that the church neither subscribed to nor affirmed the teaching of the Trinity until 381 C.E. Even at that point, the "details" of the Trinity still had to be worked out.” (The Christian Tradition, Jaroslav Pelikan, Vol. I, p.
213. Cf. also Gregory Nazianzus--Orations 31.5).

“From a brief look at these developments, it seems warranted to conclude that the NT does not present a clear expression of the Triune Godhead. Therefore, we could reasonably conclude that neither the primitive church, nor the ante-Nicene fathers taught the Trinity.
Gregory Nazianzus even exclaimed that Scripture did not, "very clearly or very often call him [the Holy Spirit] God in so many words, as it does the Father and later on the Son" (Gregory Nazianzus, Orations 31.12). Gregory's testimony is so important because he lived at the time when the Trinity assimilated its way into Christian didache. Concerning this prominent Christian "father," Jaroslav Pleikan says: "In remarkable summary of
the controversy within the orthodox camp, composed in the same year, he [Gregory Nazianzus] declared: "Of the wise men among ourselves, some have conceived of him
[the Holy spirit] as an activity, some as a creature, some as God; and some have been uncertain which to call him . . . And therefore they neither worship him nor treat him with dishonor, but take up a neutral position." He did add, however, that "of those who onsider him to be God, some are orthodox in mind only, while others venture to be so with the lips also." It was apparently not only "careful distinctions, derived from unpractical philosophy and vain delusion" that could be blamed for this confusion, but also the undeveloped state of the doctrine of the Holy Spirit in relation to the Son in the Trinity." ( The Christian Tradition, Jaroslav Pelikan, p. 213. Cf. Gregory Nazianzus, Orations,
21.33, 31:5. Also Basil, On The Holy Spirit 3.5).

But this is another part of history that will not be further dealt with in this writing.

Resources on the ante-Nicene Fathers, i.e., Links:

http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-01/anf01-15.htm#P1054_191234
http://bible.crosswalk.com/History/AD/EarlyChurchFathers/Ante-Nicene
http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/josephus/josephus.htm
http://www.math.byu.edu/~smithw/Lds/LDS/Ancient-history-items/Early-Christian/Ante-Nicene-Fathers/Early-Fathers-1
http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Ante-Nicene_Fathers
http://dmoz.org/Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/Christianity/People/Saints/J/Saint_Justin_Martyr/Works

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COMBINATION OF [1] THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY AND [2] WHAT RELIGION DOES ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH) APPROVE?

[1] SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY [VOL. 955A]

But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. Matthew 22:34 38, (Authorized King James Bible; AV)

Our love for Jehovah should spring from the heart. Jesus made that clear when a Pharisee asked him which was the greatest commandment.

What did Jesus mean when he said that we must love God with our whole heart? He meant that we must love Jehovah with our entire figurative heart, affecting our desires, emotions, and feelings. We must also love him with our whole soul, or our life and being. Moreover, we must love God with our whole mind, or our full intellect. In essence, we ought to love Jehovah fully, without reservation.

[2] WHAT RELIGION DOES ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH) APPROVE?

Have you ever wondered which religion God approves? This scripture, Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Mark 7:7 AV), makes it clear he does not approve of all.

It is imperative to investigate carefully to find the religion God approves as the Devil has spawn 1,000s of counterfeits. But how is one to go about this task and what standard is he/she to use? Well there are certain salient items to look for:

(1) Is it largely ritualistic, a formality, or is it a way of life? God strongly disapproves of religion that is merely a formalism, And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. 16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. (Isaiah 1:15-17 AV). True religion upholds the Bibles standard of morality and clean speech instead of weakly going along with the popular trends, But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. (Ephesians 5:3-5 AV). Its members reflect the fruits of Gods spirit in their lives, But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. (Galatians 5:22-23 AV). So, those who adhere to true worship can be identified because they sincerely endeavor to apply Bible standards in their lives not only at their places of meeting, but in their family life, at their secular work, in school, and in recreation.

(2) Is true faith in Jesus Christ being demonstrated? This involves appreciation of the value of the sacrifice of Jesus human life and of his position today as heavenly King, He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. (John 3:36 AV), Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. (Psalms 2:6-8 AV). Such appreciation is shown by obeying Jesussharing personally and zealously in the work that he assigned to his followers. True religion has such faith that is accompanied by works, For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. (James 2:26 AV).

(3) Does it make known the name of God? Jesus said in prayer to God: I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. (John 17:6 AV), He declared: Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Matthew 4:10 AV). And And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. (Exodus 6:3 AV).
(4) On what are its teachings based? Are they from the true God, or are they largely from men? All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (2 Timothy 3:16 AV), and Mark 7:7, the Scripture of the Day. For example, ask, where does the Bible teach that God is a trinity? Or that the human soul is immortal?

(5) Do its members truly love one another? Jesus said: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. (John 13:35 AV). Such love reaches across racial, social, and national boundaries, drawing people together in genuine brotherhood. So strong should be this love that it will set them apart as truly different. When the nations go to war, who have enough love for their fellow Christian brothers in other lands that they refuse to take up arms and kill them? That is what early Christians did.

(6) Is it truly separate from the world? Jesus said that his true followers would be, If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. (John 15:19 AV). To worship God in a manner that he approves requires that we keep ourselves, Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. (James 1:27 AV). Can that be said of those clergy and others who lives are largely built around materialistic and fleshly desires? Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. (1 John 2:15-17 AV).

(7) Are its members active in letting others know about the Word of God and Gods Kingdom? Jesus foretold: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. (Matthew 24:14 AV). What religion is really proclaiming Gods Kingdom as the only hope of mankind instead of encouraging people to look to human rulership to solve their problems? And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. (Matthew 10:7 AV), And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. 12 And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. (Matthew 10:11-13 AV), And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ. (Acts 5:42 AV), And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house, (Acts 20:20 AV).

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